"Where Did That Come From?"

Hi. My name is Rob Sandwell and I wrote the article "Where Did That Come From?" Thanks for reposting it here for others to read! If anyone is interested, you can find more of my work at the Libertarian Enterprise, and over forty articles I wrote at,

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I'm glad some of you found some use in what I had to say. Thanks.

It's good for rulers that men don't think? People take information they recieve at face value and seldom question it? Thus it makes brainwashing easy if know one ever takes the time to "check the facts" Take the supposed Tea Party "leader" pretty Palin., She sounds like neo-con light?? and she's no leader and certainly no leader of mine........ Then again I'm a libitarian and well I don't really need a leader......as I perfer self education and thinking for myself........Question EVERYTHING!!!!!

"Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get."

I'm from christian territory and am christian myself.
A tremendous amount of us are brainwashed by the state. Quite a few pastors read into Paul's appeasement of Roman rulers as the divination of authority figures in all places even down to condoning slavery. I disagree with that reading.

I have many agnostic and a few atheist friends with which I spend time. Many christians don't.

My point: An atheist should seek out liberty minded christian to sway christians.

Cuz the facts is: Most christians don't give a damn about an atheists' point of view. Regardless of truth.

911 is a perfect example. I didn't say it was an inside job (wink, wink), but the last time I checked, there were only 20 people who supposedly did the dirty deed.

It is socialism (To Nationalize the Means of Production) when one believes, but for the sake of the collective needs no reason to support those beliefs. We people produce education in all systems… to identify the produce as healthy or unhealthy one would have to look at the derivatives which formed the production of our education. The girls above have produced an inefficient education by forgoing their self and as a result they poisoned their reasoning.

I was just talking with my girlfriend about terrorism and terrorists last week. I said that the reason they are so angry with us is because we impose sanctions that kill their innocent, prop up cruel dictators, build military bases on their holy land, and bomb them. It is for these reasons that they hate us and they use terrorist tactics because they can't compete with our military strength head-on. She disagreed. I then asked why she thought they use terrorism. She said "because they're evil". When I asked which makes more sense--that they react to the cruel things we do to them or that they're just "born evil", she said she thought they were born that way.
My girlfriend is an intelligent, thoughtful, college-educated working professional. I was really taken back to hear her say this. I gave her a copy of Revolution. I hope she reads it and then has a better understanding.

Don't ever leave the DailyPaul. Your posts are among the best.

Political Correctness.

Even though the author seems to be advocating free and fearless thinking as an antidote to the establishment's brainwashing, even he is afraid to go where modern angels fear to tread.

What are the unforgivable sins today? Advocating the legalization of marijuana? A mere peccadillo. Calling for an end to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? You might even be able to throw a party with all of your buddies after the anti-war demonstration.

No, the REAL intellectual mine fields are laid around the issues of racism, sexism, etc. (If he thought his girl friends reacted vehemently before, he should try questioning them about comparative I.Q. scores of different racial groups and "No Child Left Behind". But of course neither he nor they have ever even allowed themselves to think about such things.)

These areas are so taboo that the establishment news media and academia have worked to suppress whole schools of scientific thought (like sociobiology)and psychometrics (like I.Q.) just to avoid dealing with the "inconvenient truths" about human nature that they inevitably unearth.

If you want an example of the potential power of evolutionary science on political thought you might want to read the article about Natural Law linked in my signature below. (This is what John Locke would have written IF he had understood modern genetics and evolutionary theory.)

But otherwise it was a pretty good article, for a beginner in free thinking.

Because it's an irrational, faith-based religion, it's very hard to overturn with reason. Pointing out its essential immorality, its total reliance on aggression and only aggression, is one approach that works for me in discussions.

But this is only a great ploy if it is something you personally believe in, I guess.

As opposed to giving yourself the same challenge.

If we honestly did that, we'd have no religion.

So although this is great in concept, be careful using it. Or you may find that you're a bigger hypocrite than the person you are trying to "educate".

Wow that is a real gem. It ought to be emailed and passed out as a flyer to every person in America.

When you take people out of their comfort zone (I.E Ignorace = Bliss) they sometimes tend to get cranky.

Ain't Boobus AmericANUS a trip?

Thanks to xntryk1 ( who has a knack for posting thought-full pieces )...

... I could no longer suppress the irresistible impulse to bump this finely reasoned bit of discerning truth.

Because I like irony ( ... and on the inspiration of LegalizeLiberty's insightful remark ... ) I driveby the DP neighborhood with this ~ wave~ ... of a different sort --

... May we each, as our moments come ... rise to rouse those comfortably numb in the stadium on such occasions as Stuper Bowel Sunday, political elections, and other such spectaculars.

My vote for the best commercial:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2wgHwYC-ZE

Maybe the goal is not just to ask questions ... perhaps, as Tolstoy once observed, “The goal ... is not to solve a question irrefutably, but to cause people to love life in all its innumerable, inexhaustible manifestations.” —

... 'Wish You Were Here' ;-)

"Are you seeking to know what is wrong with the world? All the disasters that have wrecked your world, came from your leaders’ attempt to evade the fact that A is A. All the secret evil you dread to face within you and all the pain you have ever endured, came from your own attempt to evade the fact that A is A."

--Atlas Shrugged

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brainwashed people...

I am going to listen to Pink Floyd...

teachers leave the kids alone!...another brake in the wall...

are loaded, suggestive and characterize things in one way, your way, not theirs.

Most people are not desirous of defending their positions from attack. They simply X the attacker out of their world.

If you want to change people views it is far better to build bridges that show common values first.

A story is also much more convincing than cold logic. THat is how Reagan used to do it. He put a human face on his numbers and research.

Thinking they will go home and "think" about it is usually wishful thinking.

Most people run on their feelings, on what they love.

"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still", and moreso a woman.

iBump

but I think once exposed to your line of thinking those ladies may go back home and think about your line of thinking and may reconsider their views. I reconsidered my thinking after listening to Dr. Paul.

The problem is belief... emotion is simply the reaction to the challenge of the belief... in other words, Denial.

This is why the Super Bowl, I-Pods, war overseas, cable television, church attendance, high school sports and a plethora of other mind numbing activities are so dangerous... they support the illusion and keep the need for personal responsibility and self-examination at bay...

One wants to believe the government has everything in control... One wants to believe that if s/he goes to church every Sunday everything is fine... one wants to believe that simply voting Republican will solve the problem... One wants to believe that his son or daughter is fighting a noble cause...

This is no doubt the root of Ron Paul's unpopularity among the status quo... he is challenging deeply held beliefs and making people uncomfortable... but then again, he's a doctor and doctors are concerned more about the cure than comfort....