MSM, RIP - It's time for new terminology - IMPORTANT!
I'm sure most (if not all) of us have heard or read those in the Old Media deride Paul supporters for using the term "Main Stream Media", as if we are the ones who are out of touch. Now, we all know how blatantly false this is, and also how they are trying to save face by saying that we are "wackos" who live on the fringes of society. Well, it's time to turn the tide. We need to abandon the whole "MSM" terminology and replace it with something that expresses the true nature of what is going on with mass communications - not just here in the USA, but around the world.
I am proposing that EVERY Paul supporter (heck, Kucinich/Gravel supporters and anarchists are welcome too) STOP using the term "Main Stream Media" and replace it with "Old Media". There is just too much proof out there that the (formerly) major media outlets are outdated and are no longer the voice of the people, and we CANNOT let them hold onto this perception of influence any longer. Do a Google search for "what percentage of americans watch network news?" and look at the results... they speak for themselves. Let's use this info to our advantage when we approach people with RP's message, and start spreading the word about the "Old Media"!
I'm looking forward to everyone's comments on this. If you have a better term than "Old Media" in mind, let's hear it, and then let's start reclaiming what's ours!
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FEC?
"The federal election commission is the only source that might be correct."
Then we are in heap big trouble.
I use "tabloid press"
saying something like: "the NyTimes is part of the tabolid press, so who cares?" and also "the NyTimes is TP."
media name
I had heard the term 'retail media', but I still found that to be 'wanting' as real definition. Even 'lame' or 'lamestreet' media' doesn't cut it, though they have been quite instrumental in creating lame-thinking people.
It requires a bought and paid-for media to accomplish what has been done. Thus perhaps 'mogul media'; 'bought media', or 'mass slave media' (which is still MSM!) would be more appropriate.
Lamestream Media
I've been using "Lamestream Media" since I first heard it a year or so ago.
how about
corporate media
CONTROLLED MEDIA
I like the term "controlled media" better than "old media."
It's gaining traction!
Well it seems we are making headway in ditching the whole MSM thing... Big thanks to Brian from the Paulunteer for publishing my full article on the topic:
http://www.paulunteer.com...
The other day I was in and out of the car listening to the Hugh Hewitt show, and his guest was Tom Brokaw. He was discussing a new book he just published, and though I didn't catch the context it was mentioned in, he did use the term Old Media to describe the era of television that he was a part of. Now I'm not suggesting that he found the term through the RP movement, but it was a pretty cool coincidence to hear it on the air none the less. Did anyone else catch that show?
I watch Comedy Central for the real news
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Media
How about Murdoch's Media. M & M's
The biggest idiots
are the ones that pay 60 bucks a month to have their brains washed by propaganda on cable TV. Life is better without Rupert Murdoch and his mafia goons blasting out mind control in your home. Protect your kids and yourself and BAN THE CABLE TV. And touching the primary results do not listen to or believe any results that come out over Murdoch outlets.
The federal election commission is the only source that might be correct.
I canceled my cable TV a
I canceled my cable TV a long time ago. :-)
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Lets see how the old media
Lets see how the old media tries to spin that.
We all know that when we need information and news we get it
from the NEW MEDIA.
How about corrupt media?
That's what they are.
Famous Quote from Justice William O. Douglas
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It was designed to take the government
off the backs of people."
Old Media..It works fine. Great idea!
Besides, I've already notified my MSM coworkers, that they have been renamed Old Media.
I haven't told them why yet.
Old Media
**snicker**
Downstream media (DSM)
I like downstream media (dsm), simply because it implies they are going down, or an the way down.
new name for MSM
Oldline Media Oldline 1. Adhering to conservative or reactionary principles 2. Long established, traditional
Whoops! Sorry "20CBM" Double Post
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Re:
I'm all for it. In fact, I proposed the same thing a week or 2 ago on this website. I thought we should call the internet the PCM or "Peoples' Choice Media". I also like the idea that someone posted referring to the "mainstream media" as "downstream media". It's a great catchy slang term. At any rate, let's keep this going and come to a concensus. Personally, I like "Downstream Media" or simply DM and Peoples' Choice Media or simply PCM.
Some of us were using that since day one...
As well as "Paulunteer", both of which are hitting lexicon status...
Next: "Slick Willard"...
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I must say I have been
I must say I have been getting more and more hits every day just from people searching for "paulunteer". Cool, eh?
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20CBM!
"20CBM"
This is totally relevant. Please read until the end. It will stick, and for the right reasons.
1st: "OLD" Media won't work because it's meaning will change with Time.
2nd: "OLD" is also insufficiently descriptive of the nature of the Old media and what makes it obsolete.
"20CBM," or 20th CENTURY BROADCAST MEDIA might be more efficient and descriptive. Read on! It's just right, you'll see.
"20CBM" would both, primarily, highlight the critical elements of the (previously named) MSM: namely, the fact that information was disseminated in a "One (entity) to Many" fashion, vs "Any to Many"...that is, it was BROADCAST...and, secondarily, "20CBM" would also officially decree the Obsolescence of the heretofore "MSM," in both Word and measure of Adequacy...that is, it is from the Previous Century and is also Insufficient.
3rdly, "20CBM" is practically synonymous with and is a Repudiation of RUPERT MURDOCH!. He who tried to hide his kingdom's obsolescence by CHANGING its NAME from "20th CENTURY FOX!" By pretending it had become Someone and SomeTHing other than an archaic, Primative, and entirely TYRRANICAL means of disseminating news, information, and even of defining DISCOURSE!
"20CBM" means we will not have our speech filtered by NEO-CONSERVATIVE LIARS and 20TH CENTURY ROBBER BARONS!
"20CBM!"
I like the sentiment, but...
...I disagree that the meaning of "Old Media" will change over time, because it's not the Media that's old, it's the Message. Saying that the meaning will change over time implies that there will be a return to the old ways, and once everyone knows that the Emperor has no clothes, they will never want to see his naked fat pimply ass again!
On the other hand, there is certainly room for a variety of terminology depending on the context of the discussion - for example in an academic setting. You might shorten it to 20CM though, to include print media as well.
"20CBM" vs. "Old Media"
The fact that you have to explain the meaning of "20CBM" virtually proves that the name will not catch on.
Personally, I prefer the term "corporate media" or "restricted media" as mentioned previously, but these terms have a touch of conspiracy theory vibe to them, and also don't take into account the fact that corporations such as AOL and Yahoo have internet news.
"Old Media" has much more potential because it's so straightforword. It is obvious that the internet encompasses the "New Media" and television and news papers make up the bulk of the "Old Media."
No one would refute that, either on logical grounds or on less logical reactionary grounds.
I have a feeling the term "Old Media" is here to stay, even if the powers it refers to are not.
Well said, and I agree
Well said, and I agree completely. You certainly can't have a catchphrase that has to be explained to people. "Old Media" is self explanatory and vastly descriptive. Not only that, it almost begs the corollary; "New Media" be applied to the Internet.
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20CBM!
"20CBM"
This is totally relevant. Please read until the end. It will stick, and for the right reasons.
1st: "OLD" Media won't work because it's meaning will change with Time.
2nd: "OLD" is also insufficiently descriptive of the nature of the Old media and what makes it obsolete.
"20CBM," or 20th CENTURY BROADCAST MEDIA might be more efficient and descriptive. Read on! It's just right, you'll see.
"20CBM" would both, primarily, highlight the critical elements of the (previously named) MSM: namely, the fact that information was disseminated in a "One (entity) to Many" fashion, vs "Any to Many"...that is, it was BROADCAST...and, secondarily, "20CBM" would also officially decree the Obsolescence of the heretofore "MSM," in both Word and measure of Adequacy...that is, it is from the Previous Century and is also Insufficient.
3rdly, "20CBM" is practically synonymous with and is a Repudiation of RUPERT MURDOCH!. He who tried to hide his kingdom's obsolescence by CHANGING its NAME from "20th CENTURY FOX!" By pretending it had become Someone and SomeTHing other than an archaic, Primative, and entirely TYRRANICAL means of disseminating news, information, and even of defining DISCOURSE!
"20CBM" means we will not have our speech filtered by NEO-CONSERVATIVE LIARS and 20TH CENTURY ROBBER BARONS!
"20CBM!"
Downstream Media
Because they are last to know, and they merely disseminate information gathered by others.
I was pretty proud to have come up with this, until I Googled it and saw that it was the name of several companies. Still, I think I'll start using it. Along with the other good suggestions here. We can give them as many names as we want; they'll never be dominant again, so it's safe to pick on them. :-)
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Spot on
it's not a direct insult but it perfectly captures how TV, radio and newspapers are no longer the vanguard of news. I hope it catches on.
Thanks!
Thanks!
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Boob tube
is old news. Net news is New News.
my choice
MSM = Mindless subliminal marketing
"Old Media" it is!
This is a very good idea and I hope everyone sees this and sticks to it. This will have a great effect if we pound it in. In general people to not like to be "out of touch" or "behind," this is simple human nature. By applying and standardizing this term and making it stick, it will make a large number of people begin to wonder "why?" It will indeed make many wonder what they don't know. "Curiosity kills the cat." For me it will be "The Old Media" from now on. Let's make it happen. Let's brand them with a new title that makes them appear out of date and unworthy. Let's make them appear as "hip" as an "8 track tape deck" or a "5 lb brick cell phone" in your car today. "Mainstream" is a term of "the happening thing" we need to strip them of this status. Make every effort you can to utilize this term "the old media" in letters, mails, and especially conversations. Make sure you "chuckle" when you say it. Ram it home!. Spread this like wildfire, mail it to everyone you can. When you hear someone say "So and so is ahead in the polls" it's time to strike - "Yeah? where'd you hear that? You must get your information from the "Old Media" I bet...."
Corporate Broadcasters
Corporate Broadcasters
"Old Media"
I like it. Out with the old, in with the new!
JGM
When sheep are lead to slaughter a goat is used, sheep will follow the goat and at the last second the goat escapes through an alternative route that is closed to the sheep. Hence the term “Judas Goat” was born. Makes me think of the “Judas Goat Media”, leading the sheep to slaughter! JGM
THE STATE MEDIA
Or ESTABLISHMENT MEDIA
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Time for a new thought...
Half of the problem is the word "Media". It means "in the middle", which implies mainstream. They are not mainstream OR media! So let's stop using both.
How about:
Special Interest Network, SIN
I like that
SIN
I like "Old Media" because
I like "Old Media" because "Main Stream" implies some sort of authority over other media, and people aren't always as quick to understand the meaning of "Dino".
Even more; the pronunciation of "Dino" sounds like "Dyno" or "Dyna" which implies "active" and "dynamic" and that turns the message on its head.
All this reminds me of the term "POTS" for "Plain Old Telephone Service"
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
Staus Quo Media
I think what we are all trying to get at is that the media we are referring to is AGAINST change. I offer SQM - Staus Quo Media......same old, same old. In that vein, how about GCM - Glacial Change Media. PM - Puppet Media is pretty blunt, but accurate, in my opinion.
Great call
Status Quo Media is awesome.
How about the "Looter's Mouthpiece"
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I've been saying this for quite some time
Calling them the Main Stream Media implies that anything else is out of the mainstream. We absolutely need to stop calling them this. I'm not, however, a big fan of using Old Media. This isn't descriptive enough and it isn't necessarily bad to be old.
I like Corporate Media instead, and I've been using it quite a bit lately. I think this is a much more accurate description of them. In addition, the term 'corporation' has far more negative connotations for most Americans, than the word 'old'. As far as trying to come up with a catchy acronym, all I can say is "Why?" Do we need an acronym for everything in life? Is it that difficult to just say "Corporate Media"?
I take my marching orders from the Constitution!
A new name for MSM
How about the SENESCENT PRE INTERNET NEWS (SPIN) for short.
OR SENILE PRE INTERNET NEWS
Senescent means old, creaky, ancient which describes them to a 'T'
And SPIN is inevitably what the media does now a day.
What ya think?
Ha Ha Ha
....good one!
"Old Media' is not bad, but
"Old Media' is not bad, but I think it leaves unspoken the powers that lie behind the so-called MSM, and their ability to set up and control the limits of what is propogated as "news".
Corporate-Controlled Media
Let's be bold with this, and not mince words --- say it as it really is.
I think people need to be made to understand just how corrupt and agenda-setting the corporate-controlled media really is.
Old Media
Old Media sounds good to me.
Frankly, I've always liked
Frankly, I've always liked Rush Limbaugh's term, "Drive-by Media." That's what they do; they zoom past like they're committing a drive-by shooting, never stopping long enough to get the whole story. It's all quick snapshots and sound bytes.
But I like "Old Media," too. My only problem with that, is that it implies that the Internet is the "New Media," and "newer" implies "better." The Internet is often as bad or worse than broadcast media; Internet media should not be anointed as the True Voice of The People.
I remain skeptical of all media. They all have to earn my initial trust, then work hard to keep it. I'm not about to place more faith in any one medium just because it is "new"; conversely, I'm not going to disavow broadcast media just because it is "old." A far more valuable litmus test is "bad" versus "good"; or, "fair and honest" versus "lying, manipulative bastards."
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It really is..
the NCM...
No Content Media
or
TTM
Trivial Trash Media
or
MAD
Mindless American Disinformation
Liberty = Responsibility
What we use is
is the real media and should be referred to as
"eFACT"
electronic Freely Accessible Content & Thought
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