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Gays-4-Ron Paul?

Any other gay supporters here?

I'm finding it hard to get my gay friends to think of any Republican Candidate much less convert to Ron Paul status. Just curious if there are other gays here?

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Oh ya

Right here with ya!

I only wish...¯¯¯¯°­­¯¯¯¯¯

My mind trembles for the simple fact. Though I BELIEVE I understand?
My blood is as RED as yours, It allows me to be what I am. Enjoy your Life as I do. That is my only wish for you. "TO EACH HIS OWN". You must live with yourself. I am sure of myself, are you? I shall cast no stone.

Remember the past as you look forward to today...

I'm not gay,

but my boyfriend is..........

Tell your boyfriend

to vote for Ron Paul

I

would be interested in why they would not.
It seems to me they would love Ron Paul.

i went to a rocky horror picture show last saturday

Fortune Favors the Bold

and the gay guys who were running it were ron paul supporters. although most of the audience had never heard of him

info to convince my gay bosses that ron's a good guy...

http://gays-for-ron.blogs...
Gays and Lesbians for Ron Paul

Ron's Philosophy: "Rights belong to individuals, not groups."

http://www.gaywired.com/a...
GayWired Media Republican Endorsement: Ron Paul

"as a Libertarian whose legacy will show he fought to stay out of Americans' personal lives, he won’t be digging around for ways to limit our civil liberties...."

Read endorsement + comments!

I am not...

Gay but I have plenty of friends who are, and if you want your rights as an American citizen, Ron Paul is the man for you. He, like our Founding Fathers, believe we are created equal, no matter what your religion, creed, or sexual preference, period. Believe, and so it shall be, and the government cannot take away your rights as a human being.

SIERRAHPBT

you crack me up!
Liberty and Freedom for our Grandkids"

bye the way...... what did I

bye the way...... what did I do to crack you up??

gee thanks!

gee thanks!

John Stossel interview

He wouldn't impose a federal restriction on gay marriage....that alone should get him the gay vote.

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www.dailypaul.com/node/14...

My letter this past week to a gay newspaper in Dallas

They ran an article regarding the Log Cabin Republicans in Dallas supporting Rudy...ok. But then the article went on to talk about Mitt, Fred, Huckabee and McCain...NO mention of Ron one way or the other. So here was my "letter to the editor"...
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I am not going to condemn anyone for their political choice or leanings. The fact that people are taking an interest in their government and elected officials should be something applauded, no matter what our individual and/or personal views.

However, I noted in last week's article regarding the endorsement of Rudy Giuliani by the Dallas Log Cabin Republicans that while the various other candidates were addressed, one was conspicuously omitted-- Ron Paul, a 20-year Republican Texas Congressman running for President of the United States.

How anyone cannot take this man seriously after all the various debates, record GOP fundraising from grassroots supporters, phenomenal internet popularity and a command of the issues themselves is a mystery to me, yet it would seem that your publication has fallen into the same trap as much of the mainstream media. I would therefore like to offer some points for consideration omitted in last week's article for your readers.

Regardless of whether you are a gay-American, African-American, Asian-American, etc, I would like to think that the word "American" takes precedence over any and all other labels for this discussion. I would also like to think that more of a "big picture" would be taken into consideration regarding the true issues, critical issues, facing our country and we as Americans collectively.

What difference does it make if the right to gay marriage is won, but yet your partner is called into active service overseas for years at a time, possibly never to return home alive? What difference also does it make if you receive equal rights for property ownership and after-death benefits if the dollars you and your partner have worked so hard for contiually are being devalued on the world market? Additionally, what difference does it make if you win all the rights of a domestic partnership, yet lose all of your individual liberties of speech, privacy and due process? These are a few of the reasons I support Ron Paul for President, a man with a 20-year track record of consistent voting in Congress, one who is pro-peace, pro-fiscal control, pro-personal liberties and pro-Constitution.

I think gay Americans need to take a look at this "big picture" going into the next election. There are issues, very serious issues, that are being looked over in lieu of that which sounds pleasing to the ear. By all means, support the candidate you feel best-equipped to lead our country, but do so with a sense of the collective, that which benefits all who fall under the banner of "We The People."

oh man

you guys want to bitch and moan about every single little detail in the campaign and you really need to knock it off. someone says something that you don't agree with and you guys call them trolls and blah blah blah. the WHOLE POINT of this campaign is that people are different but we support their right to be. if you want some "conform to my way of thinking" platform, go jump on the huckabee platform because that's what he's all about. as far as the gays, i'm not personally gay, but i do have homosexual friends and their all about RP because he said he wants to let them get married, that it's a church issue, not a federal one. which is a huge lead for him, because most of the candidates say no gay marriage or their for "civil unions". RP says if there's a church that will marry them, have at it, not the governments business. and that is HUGE in the gay community. you guys need to start getting the word out. I might hit up a couple of gay bars here in houston to put the word out. NE 1 wanna go?

We've been hitting the GLBT community in Dallas already

Went to the Pride Parade this year and one local gay DJ at one of the clubs contacted us this week to see if we could organize a Ron Paul recruitment event in the community at their bar one Saturday or Sunday afternoon. No kidding!

Freedom IS POPULAR :-)

awesome

i work in the nightclub industry but there's not a whole lot i can do from work. owners are big time republicans (pics with reagan) but they're all about rudy. tried to talk to them, explain how ron paul was a friend of reagan's. said they met him once around '78 and "weren't impressed". i dunno. i'm going to keep trying!

Here here!

I have been telling people on Fark.com that I'm gay and a Ron Paul supporter.

To the person that said "this is what Ron Paul is against," don't put words in the Doctor's mouth. He's for liberty and personal freedom.

If you need more convincing, look up what Barry Goldwater (Sr.) said about Gays before the religious right took over the republican party. To sum it up, it was basically: "who cares?!"

Dude, you need lessons in

Dude, you need lessons in comprehension. I didn't say Ron Paul was against gays. I said he was against GROUPS!

There's a "Gays-4-Ron-Paul" group on Facebook and that is not what RP's message is about. WE ARE THE GROUP! Stop breaking it down into factions. I don't care what you do--we are brothers--but don't alienate me and I won't alienate you.

Get it???

lots of groups support Ron Paul

gun owners
homeschoolers
raw milkers
students
taxpayers

He has no problem with groups supporting him, it's just another way to get the word out.

Ron Paul is not against groups

He's against legally recognized groups. There is a difference. Anybody that wants to self-identify themselves into a group is free to do so (In fact, it's called the First Amendment). It's kind of the point, really, because when you have legally defined groups instead of groups based on personal interests, you get the kind of vitriol that you spewed out at this poor soul who was just trying to find people that also self-identify with a group that he is a part of. No spewing hatred here, toward anyone that is supportive of our cause. We only despise those who self-identify themselves as Ron Paul opponents. haha (i'm only kidding, we should even like them too) Welcome to democracy.

:) You need lessons in etiquette

Anyone reading this forum could easily take what you said ("This is exactly what Ron Paul is against") and try to flip it to use as ammo against Ron Paul.

I understood what you were saying. But keep in mind, Ron Paul is a political angel. ANY blemish will be used against him. In Phoenix, they are trying hard to "link" him to the KKK because one crackpot group supposedly supports him. We don't need him associated with homophobia as well.

And BTW

I'm not accusing you of homophobia. FYI. :)

Regards,

David

Yeah but did yo bother to

Yeah but did yo bother to read this, "This is not about your group or my group... it's about a message that WE ALL can live by. Group think is exactly why America is hurting. We are a group of individuals who love and live by liberty and freedom, and WE DON'T CARE what color your skin is or who you choose to sleep with. What is so hard to understand?"

Look, I don't want to argue with you, I just don't want to see Dr.Paul's message being turned into what we already have in Washington....

Yes, I read that....

...But keep in mind that block of text could gladly be stretched out of context in a hurry.

I'm just saying be careful with everything you say. I'm particularly careful when canvassing because I don't want to ever possibly misrepresent Ron Paul and give ANYONE a single speck of ammo, no matter how erroneous.

Well, point taken. I am

Well, point taken.

I am usually very careful about what I say....

Is this a joke? Don't you

Is this a joke? Don't you listen to what Dr.Paul says? Don't you hear his message? This is exactly what he's against. He's against these "groups" and he's for the individual. He's referred to this EVERY SINGLE TIME someone asks him about "Don't ask, don't tell." Frankly speaking, maybe you need to do a little more research before you post this stuff here. This is not about your group or my group... it's about a message that WE ALL can live by. Group think is exactly why America is hurting. We are a group of individuals who love and live by liberty and freedom, and WE DON'T CARE what color your skin is or who you choose to sleep with. What is so hard to understand?

Seriously, is this some kind of joke or are you trying to sabotage Dr.Paul's message?

Please comprehend what it means to live by the Constitution of the United States of America.

That's what everyone of these posts is saying.

They do get it, they are not a joke and frankly maybe you need to do a little more reading before you post. For starters I think it’s kind of impossible to be a gay individual, technically don’t you need someone else there with you.
Just kidding.

You went off on a liimb here...

...He said he's Gay and supports Ron Paul. If that's a joke, I don't see the punch line.

I am gay and support Ron Paul because I know "equal" rights are worthless when our basic constitutional rights are in shambles.

Furthermore, Ron Paul doesn't want government in marrage PERIOD - Gay or Straight, and he's right: it's not the government's job or concern.

There's a "Gays-4-Ron-Paul"

There's a "Gays-4-Ron-Paul" group on Facebook and that is not what RP's message is about. WE ARE THE GROUP! Stop breaking it down into factions. I don't care what you do--we are brothers--but don't alienate me and I won't alienate you.

Get it???

Well...

The first Ron Paul sign I ever saw was "Firefighters for Ron Paul."

Is that wrong too?

I see your point, but there's no reason not to try to ENCOURAGE potentially alienated groups to join our ranks.

In Phoenix, I helped make the first template for Latinos for Ron Paul after my Mexican and Puerto Rican friends expressed support for him. The signs went up in West Mesa, an area with probably 60% Latino population.

But again, point taken--- but calm down! We're not fractioning off!

I don't agree with that

I don't agree with that either but we have to draw the line? I mean I'm not running around with a sign stating, "White guys who likes to have sex with Asian women for Ron Paul!" What would people say? I think we should forget the tags and labels and just stick to the message. I don't care if you're a police officer or someone who likes to smoke weed occasionally, all I care about is the real message....

His post was a fair one

I didn't find this post at all offensive or controversial. Our Dallas Meet-Up group had about a dozen or so of us attend this years Gay Pride Parade, not to be "in" the parade, but simply do a sign waving to those passers-by in the parade and along the route.

One mother from PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) came over to us and proclaimed, "Dr. Paul delivered my gay son!" All of our folks were stunned, but you couldn't help but catch that mother's excitement in seeing a bunch of straight Ron Paul supporters at a Gay Pride Parade with "that" personal connection she had to Ron Paul.

We also had numerous Dallas Police Officers come up to us with those 8'x4' signs asking us about Ron Paul. It was about three hours VERY well spent.

As Ron says time and time again, "Freedom means FREEDOM" and in his John Stossel interview about 2mins into one segment he acknowledged that he had no problem with gays should they obtain the right to marry. He simply advised that this not be taken as a sign that all would "accept" it, but that legally it was their right as "individuals." This is about "personal" liberties, not "group" entitlements.

Gay for Ron Paul

For anyone on facebook I'd like to let you know there is a "Gays for Ron Paul" group.

I'm not gay, but I'm

I'm not gay, but I'm bisexual. Does that count?

lol and i'm a lesbian

lol
and i'm a lesbian trapped in a mans body!

I have no issues with anyone

I have no issues with anyone supporting the good Doctor, and I'm sure he supports your vote. I have several friends who support Dr. Paul and who are openly gay. I also have several friends who are gay and don't support him. To each their own.

Personally, I'd say I'm more tri-sexual? Try anything once.

Or what about Swingers4RonPaul?

How about Homophobics4RonPaul? Gotta let everyone in on this one. Don't ask, don't tell.

I love this place.

Only HALF way...LOL!

Just kidding...lol.

...

Yes, you count. :)

Policy comments

I have several gay friends, and one recent comment I heard from a solidly political left individual was, "Paul is actually the first republican I could support." I found this to be a very strong statement on his part, and this was some months ago.

The points of alignment were Paul's view on the war, an acknowledgement that Ron Paul opposes the evangelical right's influence on social policy, and the understanding that libertarians are necessarily supportive of individual equality including opposing government restrictions on marriage.

It seems to me that Ron Paul goes one further, however, by arguing that marriage shouldn't even be the province of federal government. He has reminded some audiences that a "know your future spouse" health check idea was the interest that allowed government to begin oversight fairly recently in this nation's history. Should an elimination of federal government from the marriage province ever happen, it's likely this would simply revert back to the states to manage. That would be an improvement for gay rights nationally, as it could eliminate the marriage penalty for gay couples in federal tax filing, and allow full legal marriage status in many more states than Massachusetts. It is not, however, a position favorable to some who want to bet on a full, national reversal of policy by judicial intervention. I would argue that this could still happen, even with a Paul presidency.

At the state level, I see drug legalization and gay marriage both standing a much stronger chance of policy correction, especially without influence from the federal government. This shift away from federal power will have to be initiated with a future President or some kind of state's rights revelation from the Supreme Court, the latter of which is an unlikely prospect.

There is no reason why gays

There is no reason why gays should not support Ron Paul. The message of liberty has a big umbrella. Ron Paul does not oppose gay marriage. Ron Paul does not believe in the military standard of "don't ask don't tell". He believe that the issue is not sexual orientation, but sexual misconduct that deserves discipline. Ron Paul believe that you do not get your rights from the government or from belonging to a group. Oppressive governments try to diminish liberty and divide people by their difference. Freedom unites people in spite of their differences.

GOP makes it a hard sell.

I think the Pat Robertson wing of the GOP nuked that bridge. RINO Rudy is the only candidate that gays might listen to because of his over-the-top pro-gay um... stance. A New York Republican is a Democrat in many states.

My gay friends just tick the 'Democrat' box on the ballot. The primaries are the only time they actually stop to look at names.

yea robertson is an idiot...

yea robertson is an idiot...

Freedom is key

I have seen an interview where gay marriage was brought up and Ron Paul said he respects the rights of individual choices. He said he personally may not agree with certain choices that individuals make but he feels the federal government should not interfere in those personal choices. He wants the government out of our personal lives.

I hope more of my gay friends see the deep implication of this. I find the answer more gratifying than taking sides on a particular specific issue. It supercedes "sides" in many of these Hot Button issues.

Ron Paul on Civil Rights

All rights are individuals. We do not get our rights because we belong to a group. Whether it's homosexuals, women, minorities, it leads us astray. You don't get your rights belonging to your group. A group can't force themselves on anybody else. So there should be no affirmative action for any group.

Source: 2007 GOP Values Voter Presidential Debate Sep 17, 2007

http://www.ontheissues.or...

ron paul 2008

Gays for RP

I am a 41, usually a Democrat, GWM for Ron Paul. I haven't seen to many online. Maybe we should start a meetup group. I think the country is heading way in the wrong direction. There is no way I will vote for a candidate on wedges anymore. I really don't believe anything the Dems or Republicans say anymore. I do believe Dr. Paul when he speaks! His campaign is a once in a lifetime opportunity to really make tangible changes in how this country is governed!

I used to be a democrat also and crossed over

I often wonder how many of us in the Revolution were former democrats

I Voted Dem

till now... I now learned to vote for the person. Not the party. RP is a great person.

is a hard sell to a lot...but not always

I believe if any group hates government - it should be gay people.

The trick is walking them back from the deliberate rejection of gay people by the Republican Party. Most people forget that Bush the First got 44% of the gay vote in 1988. But that fell to 12% after gays were vilified in '92.

I personally voted for Perot because I thought the Republicans were just being obnoxious.

The best way to approach the issues are the same way I would approach most people "get the government out of your wallet, your home, and out of foreign wars."

A lot of gays are trained to be "knee jerk" pro-choice because they think it is connected to their privacy rights - which it is not...that's the biggest hurdle I have in convincing other gays to vote RP.

count me as one of your gays

count me as one of your gays for ron paul.

as soon as i saw the youtube video of him at google saying " i don't want to be president to run your lives " i knew he'd be great.

i don't agree with RP 100% on everything, but my sense is that when the dems talk about gay issues it's basically pandering to us (since they've discovered there's a lot of us, many of whom have a ton of disposable income), whereas with paul this is not a hot button issue at all, it's just a question of libertarian constitutional principles being under attack from the rest of the republican party.

Should be a no brainer

The big message is freedom. I have a friend who is a GM and all I had to say was freedom and he was hooked and spreading the word faster than a hug in a gay bar. : )