??Riddle me this DPers -- anyone here smart enough to answer this???
Posted December 20th, 2007 by Overhaul-with-Paul
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What one issue combines the following for Ron Paul:
1: Even considering all candidates from both parties, Ron is the only person who can fully own the issue
2: It has not been clearly brought to the fore by the RP campaign so far
3: It is an issue that is tailor-made for Boomers and Seniors, allowing them to consider or reconsider the candidacy of Dr. Paul
4: It is an issue that has been proven before in a presidential election, elevating a single candidate to impressive heights
5: it is an issue that was powerful enough to become part of the political dialogue for several years and is still spoken of today
6: it is an issue that is very hard to disagree with because the facts back it up
7: it is an issue that affects every American bar none
I've been working on this matter for weeks. We've written a script for a 30 second spot that addresses it and will begin production soon with hopes of airing it in late Jan to raise the bar for Ron on Feb 5.
Question for you: what is the issue and why does Ron Paul OWN it?
Let's see who's got the biggest thinking cap out there.
-JP
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Jan. 9th; the voiceover pro, the studio, the script, the graphics designer are all in place but we will not produce this ad until we can confirm that HQ or the Grassroots could/would pay for it to run on tv. eLiberty's recent ad is great and somewhat similar, I cannot get an answer as to whether it's running, will run and whom will pay for airtime. ********************************
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Until we change the way money works, we change nothing.
Without a doubt it's the Federal Reserve and the inflation tax. It is this point alone that gets the most applause during his speeches all across this Nation, however, he hasn't had enough time to clearly explain it.
You can't change our system of government until you address the money issue.
But, here's the tough part, try getting the msm to carry the ad.
INFLATION is the issue you are looking for!
Every American should agree that their cost of living has gone up - especially the seniors and the less well off of the boomers (at the same time the boomers are hit by falling house prices and this will get worse over the coming months).
Both inflation and falling house prices are caused by the inflationary policy of the FED. Both are proof that RPs views about the FED are correct and that the FED are causing real problems to ordinary people.
Inflation is understated by the official numbers (see http://www.shadowstats.co... and other sites) and most Americans know this because it is their personal experience.
The issue of inflation has not been covered properly in the RP campaign yet and is totally ignored by other campaigns on both sides.
Furthermore, it will become a greater and greater problem as the months go by and will be a perfect platform for the final election if it is built early on.
See also www.dailyreckoning.com who have been writing about these issues for 10 years.
costs have NOT gone up
the value of the currency (won't dignify it by calling it money) has gone down.
The Root Problem is The Fiat Money System...
Everything else is a symptom of that root problem. Required continuing education for Ron Paul revolutionaries! Watch and learn!
http://video.google.com/v...
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Ron's monetary policy. No
Ron's monetary policy. No one else talks about it. I constantly remind people we're 9 trillion in debt and that's why they can't vote democrat (I run with the youner crowds)
there's a lot of zeros in
9000000000000
but zeroes add up
keep in mind he ties EVERYTHING together
which is genius
so people might think he is a one hit wonder on foreign policy, but they dont LISTEN to him
it's all linked to foreign policy
Rich in NH
Honesty and Integrity
There is not one single candidate that has not flip flopped to pander to the people about any single issue, other than Ron Paul. I feel that when he speaks he is speaking with conviction and that when he says for the people he means it. The fruits of our labors are stolen at gunpoint and then spread around the world not always in our best interest, this being based on a lie. Bush campaigned on a foreign policy all Americans could live with and then did a 180. I feel that if Dr. Paul thought that we needed to send aid he could simply do a money bomb online to help support the military or any other topic that threatens our national security. Honesty is the one thing he has over 95% of the political elite, and this sets him apart to we the people.
Dam politicians, not rivers!
I SECOND THIS
and what I said earlier, but this is important
Rich in NH
If you went into business the day Jesus was born
and lost $1 million a day for every day since, it would take you until about the year 2737 to get $1 trillion dollars in debt.
The US is $8-9 trillion in debt.
Social Security, Medicare, Welfare?
Any of those?
Social Security
Dr Paul has the only plan to save it.
Trust
Authenticity, honesty, integrity.
Boils down to trust. I trust this man. He doesn't just mouth the words, he lives them. I also admire his tenacity and candor.
Look forward to the "answer".
OK, read it.
Good going!
One issue jumps out.
Monetary policy and the Federal Reserve.
This is Ron's biggest applause line now. No other candidate is talking about it at all. It affects every single American. The dollar is seriously declining in value, and that fact is in the news regularly.
The only criteria this doesn't meet well is #2, because Ron talks about it all the time. But is it featured in TV and radio ads? Not really. A lot of people don't understand this issue at all, but if they did, Ron's support would explode more than it already has.
Sam Marsh
Musician
http://www.myspace.com/sc...
Agreed ...
Ron Paul already owns the War issue but most people I run into seem to think he is a one hit wonder ... they just do not get that he is also the only candidate out there that actualy is shooting straight on the economy.
To me the simplest way to tap into the new direction that this election is taking, the "its the economy stupid" angle, would be to tie the price of oil/gas into the falling dollar and lay it out there so everyone knows that when they pay 50 bucks to fill thier gas tank or 800 bucks to fill their oil tanks its all because the dollar has been reduced to the value of packing peanuts.
Show us vacationing europeans and shieks with gold toilets while granny is freezing ... there is some great imagery for americans to soak up ....
Are you sure Ron Paul said...
that he would cut defense spending? Can you tell me where he said that, if he did? I heard him say he would close the military bases we have in many foreign countries, and that would save us hundreds of billions of dollars. But I also heard him say he is for a STRONG DEFENSE. That doesn't sound like cutting defense spending to me.
As an aside
As I recall the DoD reduced funding for some research because of continuing operations overseas. I am surprised that more has not been made of this issue on the Republican side from RP. While I do not suggest that RP advocate for a new cold war, it seems ironic to me that in the face of new low power tactical battlefield nukes from Russia and satellite killing missles from China, we are cutting advanced defense research to conduct day to day ops.
Defense/Offense
See the problem is that you're confused by the word defense. When normal people use it, they mean protecting themselves and their loved ones. Ron Paul will not decrease the amount of money spent actually protecting Americans. However, neo-cons use the word 'defense' to mean invading countries on the other side of the planet that had no means of doing us harm. 'defense' for a neo-con can also mean sending border guards and other useful soldiers to said foreign countries to occupy them. So in that way, Ron Paul will cut 'defense' spending and actually use the money to protect us.
Thank you for the reply, Colin
It was almost 2 a.m. here when I posted, and didn't see your reply until now.
I agree that the term 'defense' is used in an ambiguous way these days, but I don't think we should do the neo-cons the favor of going along. They would love to paint Paul as being 'soft on defense', in order to scare voters into thinking he would leave us vulnerable, when actually, Bush is making us vulnerable by sending our forces to fight his stupid wars in the Middle East instead of defending our own borders.
For clarity's sake, it would be better and more accurate to say Paul wants to cut 'military spending', rather than 'defense spending'. And we also need to make a distinction between the true meaning of 'defense', and Bush's new definition, which covers pre-emptive aggression against a nation that might acquire the knowledge to make a nuclear weapon in the future and use it against us.
Some may say, "Oh, that's just a matter of semantics." That may be so, but it can have a subtle influence on how people think, imo.
An issue that effects the young and old hmmmm
the shortage of diapers, no seriously the deficit and its effect on the general economy as well as social security
Thanks for the riddle
You got us all to think.
You're welcome
You had it right early on. I'm seeing a resurgence of thoughtful posts on DP recently, very nice. -JP
he ownZ em' cus
the isssue is national socialism
Ron Paul is a Republican Libertarian he stand against it alone for every person
I've seen the 60 minutes video, eye opening..
Great post. I enjoyed the change of pace!
M.
Is it social (in) security or the inheritance tax
and will you tell us on this fourm?
look for the title ***ANSWER*** part way down this page
have a good one. ;}
M.
The other thing that boomers may like!
With the elimination of the IRS boomers will not have to pay taxes on taking their money out of their IRAs if they have non-Roth IRAs! Could that issue be of significance?
Sent to the Campaign?
Please tell me that you have sent this to the RP campaign...
Maybe you should get this to the grassroots leaders as well, so they can pester the campaign about it until the media people in the main campaign get it into Dr. Paul's hands...
I think you are brilliant sir! Glad to have you on the winning side!
Until the Election is Won!
Chaplain Steve
Ron Paul - Lion of the Constitution
It's Ron Paul who is brilliant and courageous
but thanks Chaplain.
Yes, I hope Michael and/or the campaign would give this a look, at least the 60 minutes vid needs to be seen by everyone.
-JP
PS My few emails to the Campaign were never returned.
oddly enough, I'd say
a letter might more likely be read.
or perhaps a DVD of a sketch of your idea?
DVD letters are pretty novel.
Lever, Marvel, Orobos...
Tough to read through everything so quickly but you guys did a helluva job.
Remember, Republicans do NOT condone defense cuts, only Ron does. Dems are wild about entitlements, even expanding SCHIP now.
Please spread the word. I showed me 66 year old mother in law (who doesn't have a PC) the 60 Minutes clip, and turned her to Ron Paul.
We're working to make the ad strong and professional.
-JP
Recount
Actually HenryWilliamson and Higgs Boson deserve an honorable mention.
Please don't let this issue die, guys. Many on DP care more about privacy and gun rights and that's fine those are important ---- but the fact that my yet to be born grandson (my kids are still young) is truly, truly, SCREWED by the generational accounting, really will resonate with a lot of people who could be made to rightly feel guilty about that.
-JP
PS Google Laurence Kotlikoff also; he wrote the book. In an interview he said to the Tax Foundation that the 2040 tax rate might need to be 70% larger and/or the payroll tax might need to be doubled, and we STILL can't pay the bills.
I have the link...
To the 60 Minutes segment Overhaul is talking about. But I won't post it unless s/he says it's ok. I like this game, and wouldn't end it w/ out permission....
Lol - I guess Overhaul ended it already, as I was posting!
Colony... Confederation... Republic... Nation-state... Empire... Colony...
*****ANSWER*****
Yes, it is the “coming generational war,” the “fiscal child abuse” on our grandchildren that is federal govt spending commitments between 2030 and 2050. There is nothing theoretical about it. And Ron is are only hope as explained under #1 below.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
But do yourself a favor, see the 60 Minute piece and imagine, as Ross Perot did in 1992, Ron speaking of saving the country for our children and grandchildren, and speaking as the lone voice, the man with the answer. Wall Street Journal poll internals yesterday put Ron at zero percent with Seniors. We can and will do better. Give my ad a look when it’s done.
-JP, thanks for playing
Full answer:
1: Even considering all candidates from both parties, Ron is the only person who can fully own the issue
This is the key. Because Ron is the ONLY candidate who supports lessening entitlement spending, plus lessening defense spending (not to mention aggressive budget cutting of bureaucratic agencies), he is the only one who can truly cut spending as dramatically as it needs cutting.
2: It has not been clearly brought to the fore by the RP campaign so far
True.
3: It is an issue that is tailor-made for Boomers and Seniors, allowing them to consider or reconsider the candidacy of Dr. Paul
Anyone besides me remember how Perot owned seniors in 1992?
4: It is an issue that has been proven before in a presidential election, elevating a single candidate to impressive heights.
Perot garnered 19%, at one point was leading the nominees of both other parties. All with his charts and graphs.
5: it is an issue that was powerful enough to become part of the political dialogue for several years and is still spoken of today.
Less so, but still.
6: it is an issue that is very hard to disagree with because the facts back it up
David Walker is the General Comptroller for crying out loud. Virtually no economists disagrees!
7: it is an issue that affects every American bar none
Every single one of us, especially are as yet unborn kids and/or grandkids
I've been working on this matter for weeks. We've written a script for a 30 second spot that addresses it and will begin production soon with hopes of airing it in late Jan to raise the bar for Ron on Feb 5.
Question for you: what is the issue and why does Ron Paul OWN it?
Let's see who's got the biggest thinking cap out there.
-JP
PS Check this out while you're at it, hot off the presses re: short term spending.
http://www.rd.com/content...
told ya
technically, Marvel was right.
Baby boomers retiring
makes more spending
our deficit will grow
Stock market crash
I would say that Marvel got it
with going back to the gold standard.
The OP is trying to keep us on a wild goose chase and his "right" answer will be soo heavily related to the gold standard (inflation, fiscal responsibility, govt spending, etc) that it is a semantic argument.
I don't think it's willful on the OP's part, as he may not truly understand that the gold standard is a domestic economic issue that DOES affect inflation, spending et al...
...as evidenced by his assumption that the gold standard is simply "currency change" The OP doesn't understand that, when he finally reveals his interpretation of the right answer, we already would have said it. He HIGHLY underestimates the importance of hard currency and I would be willing to bet that what he calls the "right" answer is simply a consequence of diverting from hard currency to begin with.
We Give Up
What's the commercial about?
"Let's get down to the nitty gritty" - Nacho Libre
I'm Pretty Sure That Its...
The new Greater Depression. The initials of the expert on 60 Minutes, if I am right, were D.W. Am I right, Overhaul?
Colony... Confederation... Republic... Nation-state... Empire... Colony...
lack of math and science education
Paul owns because he is a doctor. School vouchers.
Savings - Inflation
This is bar-none, my biggest concern.
It leads to a spiderweb of problems including, enslavement for the young, and the rip-off of the old. It's a trust issue, and a truth issue.
Many people don't yet know what inflation really is. Many of the older generation who first started noticing the rise in prices, yet they've been told a false story have the most engrained misunderstanding.
Most people, oblivious to the reality, consider it simply the rise in prices and income.
Many people don't see the bigger picture. They don't see how it affects their bank accounts, retirement funds, IRA's. They don't see how it's worse off for lenders, fostering high interest rates. They don't see how it's inescapable and universal. They don't see how it decreases *all* of their wealth.
They don't need to see the transfer of wealth issue. They don't even need to see the interest portion of it either. Just how the basic concept directly affects them, how what they've been told is incorrect and how Ron Paul is pushing to correct it.
The solution is competing currencies. Something they will understand, not investing in gold, but depositing your money in gold, through a regular bank. Promise the value will remain stable for a long time. Don't promsie return on investment, they probably will scoff a bit as investments can go sour. Show how we've prospered in our history, how their parents prospered. The working husband, housewife time of universal value.
I'm starting to ramble on.. but hope the idea is clear.
t!
THE ISSUE
National Debt
- now at $9.1 TRILLION or $30,000 each and increases each day by more than $1.4 billion.
Does not include unfunded liabilities ie social security, prescription drugs, medicare etc etc etc which means it is really over $50 trillion.
WE ARE BANKRUPT! And it is being done deliberately as the borrower (YOU) is always servant to the lender (elites)
The Red Indians were put into a reserv - ation. Black slaves were put into a plant- ation. We are in a n - ation and are slaves to the debt system.
Agree
You nailed it.
The ECONOMY, Stupid?
The ECONOMY, Stupid?
Monetary Policy and the collapse of the dollar
That's my guess. I also think it is the 1 issue that make every other issue moot.
"I would argue that the most
"I would argue that the most serious threat to the United States is not someone hiding in a cave in Afghanistan or Pakistan but our own fiscal irresponsibility," Walker tells Kroft.
http://www.cbsnews.com/st...
Ron is the only candidate on either side that can accurately claim to have never voted in favor of an unbalanced budget.
MEDICARE
The reason politicians don't want to talk about it is because people go nuts when you start talking about taking away their entitlements. Solutions don't fit well into 30 sec. sound bites.
Bingo! You beat me to it.
Bingo! You beat me to it.
I'm writing out the answer
complete with links, give me a minute. Good guesses but there is a specific point of differentiation that I am building the TV ad on. See if you can nail it. - JP
Oh,
fiscal responsibility
Sorry
Double post
Spending
Fiscal responsibility