Want to know what's scarier than any conspiracy theory I've ever heard?

Much of what you said is quite true. Quite an Amoeba we've grown in this Petri Dish of ours!

“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.” -Joseph Goebbels-

“Allow me to control the issue and the nation’s money and I care not who makes its laws!” — Amshell Rothschild

WALL STREET AND THE RISE OF HITLER
Antony C. Sutton

http://www.reformed-theol...

Finally a VIDEO for kicks:
http://video.google.com/v...

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Media Censoring Ron Paul:
http://www.skaskiw.com/Wr...

The RF file:
http://www.mega.nu:8080/a...

WALL STREET AND THE BOLSHEVIK REVOLUTION
Antony C. Sutton

http://reformed-theology....

I have been collecting a lot of info about your Fed and its darker aspects
since a year now..posting a few of them..
The Whole Story:
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/...

HIDDEN POWERS:
http://www.seanscreenplay...

Nobel laureate Joseph E. Stiglitz. on Globalisation
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...

Jaffy 87 , may I suggest that you open your copy of the Declaration of Independence and read the second paragraph, sentence 5:

"But when a long train of abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security.....The History of the present King...is a history of repeated Injuries and Usurpations, all having in direct Object the Establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid World." [emphasis in original]

The Founders were talking about a "conspiracy" not a "conspiracy theory."

Today, just as in the time when another King George was conspiring to enslave the States, the proper, indeed, the only word to describe todays events that are leading us toward tyranny is an organized effort by men who conspire to create, for example, the North American Union. These things don't happen on their own but happen because men make them happen! Franklyn Roosevelt the arch-socialist President of the 20th century once said that "In politics nothing happens by accident. If it happens you can bet it was planned that way." He should know since he "ran the show" with his team of socialists and out and out communists. The "show" didn't run itself, Jaffy 87, it was a conspiracy that was running the show.

The dunder heads that really believe in the socialist model will believe this foolishness regardless of the evidence that socialism invariably leads to tyranny. They aren't the problem however. The problem we face is the Conspiracy that is doing something about taxes - they go up regardless of Repubs or Dems in the White House; Government gets bigger. If nobody was "running the show" just maybe government would get smaller by pure accident. But it grows bigger because men who conspire want it that way. Ideas have power, but ideas come from the minds of men.

The only solution is to expose the Connspiracy and to stop their favorite projects like the NAU. They want this Mega-Gov so badly that they have taken years to establish its foundation. NAFTA is the foundation and the WTO is the Legal governing bureaucracy. The Neo-Cons and The Rupert Murdochs all play a roll in this. For anyone to deny this is to play into the hands of the conspirators who want you to believe that a conspiracy doesn't exist- That it's just all happening by accident. That nobody is "running the show." That, my friend, is the ultimate folly and you need to do some reading. May I suggest "The Shadows of Power" by James Perloff available at Amazon books.com and The Creature From Jekyl Island (the story of the Fed Reserve) by G. Edward Griffin at his site www.freedomforceinternati....
Happy new year.

of years...

Back to Babylon, Sumer, Lemuria, Egypt, Greece, etc.

PIck up Rule by Secrecy by Jim Marrs for $15 at Borders.
Listen to Alex Jones, www.infowars.com
Read any of David Ickes great books.
Watch the Money Masters video as someone recommended, pick up G Edward Griffins book THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND.

Probably at the very top are
1. Rothschild dynasty

2. Windsors (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha), British Royalty, click this link and see how much land the QUEEN OWNS, SHE iS THE LARGEST LAND OWNER IN THE WORLD! THis guy went around the world and researched and verified by court documents, legal documents and public records, etc... this will BLOW YOUR MIND -
http://www.whoownstheworl...

3. Vatican/Knights of Malta/Jesuits

4. other European royal bloodlines, i.e. Queen Beatirx of the Netherlands, King Juan Carlos of SPain, etc. etc

This is the 95% most likely Truth of the hierarchy of world control and ownership... The Bill Gates, Mexico's Carlos Slim, Warren Buffett, Walton family, etc and the Forbes 400 and 500 lists are chump change for the REAL wealth of the world.... THe real power could buy and sell these billionaires for fun and hobby...

THE MAIN POINT PEOPLE NEED TO GRASP AND COMPREHEND, IS THAT MONEY $$$$ MEANS NOTHING... THe REAL power, listed above, OWNS and CREATED central banking and the world financial systems and fiat currencies, and stock markets, etc. Money has been THE means to control humanity and garner power over humanity... Money and profit is a diversion... it's about power and control over humans...

When people get this, it all falls in place... I have so many times had to try to get people in debate with me to understand WHy they look forward to collapsing the American economy, the world banks and economies, the currencies, etc etc... because they own all the money and land and resources, ultimately, so the $ doesnt matter.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

watch all 9 and be thoroughly outraged, and pray it doesn't happen in four years.

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.” FDR

It's like were on a bus and with no driver about to run off a cliff. If we don't grab the wheel we're all screwed.

http://video.google.com/v...

That is what makes me so proud and excited to be a part of this revolution and to have a place to discuss it all. Thanks, phoobar, it is posts like that which keep the juices flowing!!

Read It!!!!

Well, i think all of us thought, from the start, if by a God miracle Ron Paul became President, that would be but the beginning of our troubles. For there is no way "they" - the real power brokers of the world - would allow things to just 'run' for Dr. Paul. So, most times i do wonder what we are doing. I won't stop doing it, but - i do get very discouraged. I mean, suppose we would get what we asked for. Then what? I certainly did not want to be the one to say it, but - someone has, so.... Well, God will sort this all out, and i have felt powerless all my life and these days i just want to read more Bible and pray more. Yeah, that seems about right. Thanks. Oh - THE MOON is close tonight....

I just looked at the moon thru binocs - WOW you can see the relief on the upper horizon more clearly, imo. Pretty cool. Either that or i am hallucinating - which is entirely possible. It is BRIGHT. wow. Do have a look, it may calm you to gaze upon another part of the Universe and realize - even those in control are not in control.

ADDITION: I asked, in another post, for this type of detailed info, and so thank you for posting this, it is exactly what i meant to find.

PEACE ON EARTH

Ron Paul 2008

I think most conspiracy theories fail to satisfy occam's razor. There is always a simpler explanation.

Sure, when you look at how powerful and all-consuming government has become, it can seem like it is the result of a master plan by some elite group. But it can all be explained as the result of a vast array of special interest groups and individuals serving their own narrow interests over a LONG time. It can even be attributed in part to some individuals acting for what they think is the public welfare. But you need not assume a master plan.

Our current state of degraded liberty is the result of a slow, organic erosion. Our tyrannical government has grown spontaneously in the fertile soil of a complacent populous, divided and alienated by the natural operation of politics.

At the risk of sending this thread off on a siding, the whole thing is rather like the evolution of species. A few simple laws and forces, over a LONG time, produces blue whales and kangaroos. They look for all the world like they were planned, but in fact they are the result of a system of trial and error.

So too, what appears to be the result of a world-spanning plan for domination is really the natural, unplanned result of many individuals seeking their own profit and power through the use of government force willingly surrendered by an un-vigilant population.

And the antidote is this new vigilance of ours.

Peace

I always put it like this when talking to people.

It is many smaller groups, some with similar agendas, some opposing. From bankers to special interests, they all manipulate the state, through varying methods, for their own benefit. Call it what you will, but suffice it to say they all want a piece of the action. This is not to say that all groups are in this category, just those that do not respect or follow the law of the land, and when observing our current state of affairs, one can say with certainty that there are many.

This is one of the many reasons our government, as chartered, was intended to view every human being in the populace as an individual, and not groups of human beings. Not blacks, whites, Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, gay, straight, male, female, Christian, Muslim, nor Jewish, but individual sovereigns, each possessing the same inherent rights as the next, nothing more.

Some might say (likely not here), "What if we want more? We need more!" The answer to that is either work to change the law in a constitutional way, or refer to the 10th Amendment.

In short, the answer is the Constitution and the philosophy of liberty...mostly.

The other is a country of well-educated, critically thinking individuals who understand and respect the law and are capable of electing representatives who will truly uphold and follow it. In turn, those representatives would appoint judges who do the same.

And well, that is only the Federal Government. Many of our state governments have failed us as well.

Lot's of work to be done if we truly want out nation back. Dr. Paul is only the beginning.

Ram

I disagree jaffy. If no one is running the show, then we the people are running the show.

Here is the root of what you all have been talking about. It is a very informing read. It sure gave me a clearer view of what kind of people are behind the curtain. This is the strong stuff so beware. Its a long read so chew it well. I might ad that an old wise man once said that the carpet was going to be pulled right out from under them. And I wonder if this Ron Paul movement is it,cause there sure is a lot of LIGHT in it!
Timeline of the Rothschild family;
http://www.erichufschmid....

whoever started this... but glad you babble them out. The true state of the matter is NO ONE is capable of running the world, or any organization for that matter, but there are never lack of any attempts to grasp the world with one's hand for whatever intention. There is always unintented consequence ...Ron Paul or Austrian school of economics is smart enough to recognize and acknowledge that. You are right that even Ron Paul becomes the Prez, nothing much would change until most citizens take the responsiblity into their own hands. Our current system would not able to sustain itself for long and would end badly with a revolution of a different sort. RP is doing this out of love for this country, a true patriot.

What is so scary about the thought of no one being in control? Isnt that what we are fighting for on this site? Not one person in control but each and everyone of us in control of our own lives. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. A famous author by the name of Howard Zinn had a name for this. Its called anarchism. "Communities working together in a thousand different ways for the best of the communities." Not your typical definition of anarchism, but one I tend to agree with.

If nobody is in control, then why are all of the following true:

--The government owns every square inch of "your" land (Google "allodial title"), and can repossess it at any time. You rent land from government; the rental agreement is called a "property tax bill." Things that are owned outright are not taxed, because there is no authority to tax them. You don't pay a "furniture tax," for example. By paying property taxes, you have agreed to this arrangement and are contractually bound by it.

--The government [most likely] owns "your" vehicle (Google "Manufacturer's Certificate of Origin - MCO"), and can repossess it at any time. Unless you hold the MCO, you lease your vehicle, even if you paid cash for it. The lease agreement is called an "excise tax" and "registration." By not securing the MCO (which is difficult, by design), by paying excise tax, by registering your vehicle and attaching license plates to it, you have agreed to this arrangement and are contractually bound by it.

--The government owns your life, and can repossess it at any time by simply instituting the draft and sending you off to die in its wars. By registering with Selective Service when you turned 18, you have agreed to this arrangement and are contractually bound by it. If you are a woman and are smiling right now, know that your time is coming.

--The government owns your children, and can repossess them at any time by simply claiming that you are not caring for them and/or educating them properly. By allowing them to be issued a Social Security number and enrolling them in public school, you have agreed to this arrangement and are contractually bound by it.

--The government owns the fruits of your labor, and can repossess the full amount of it at any time. Whatever amount you take home on payday is arbitrarily granted by government. At different times in history, the tax rate has been above 90% for some. And by what authority? The same authority that says you may reclaim your lawnmower from your neighbor who borrows it. The Federal Reserve owns all money; you merely borrow it. If you try to conduct business in some other, private, currency, the government will repossess the fruits of your labor by way of seizing your physical body, the right to which your parents signed away at birth, as outlined above. If you conduct business in Federal Reserve notes, you have agreed to this arrangement and are contractually bound by it.

These are but a few examples.

The idea of individual sovereignty was far too dangerous to last long. Those in power went straight to work overturning that idea, before the ink on the Constitution was dry. Lincoln hammered the final nail in the coffin; by "granting" freedom to the slaves, he established the notion that government holds the keys to freedom. Call it semantic if you like, but he could have simply upheld the rights of all individuals to not be enslaved, by punishing those who enslaved their fellow man. We have all now been grandfathered into a system that equated an individual to a legal entity, thereby equating every one of us to a freed slave. Since we were freed by government, that same government can retract our freedom at its pleasure -- and it often does so.

You are not a sovereign individual. If you were, you could buy a few acres of land and create your own little kingdom where no government official could trespass. The idea of the police entering your kingdom would be as absurd and unacceptable as the United States invading Canada. You would be immune from arrest, because your individual sovereignty would trump police authority. You'll never see your local police arresting the President of Mexico on Mexican soil, for example. Clearly, individual sovereignty is an idea that needed to be stamped out quickly, in the eyes of government.

I'd say there most certainly is somebody "in control," but it isn't you, and it isn't me.

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When you try to explain the obvious to one in the mass of sheeple? C'mon, you know. That look that you get once you have spoken past a conditioned 15 second TV sound bite, where the jaw slightly drops, then comes the blank stare and a furrowed brow? Like man, what did you say?

Well, like it or not, this is America today. There are very few of us that actually, "get it.' Let's all hope the one's that don't, "get it", stay at home for the primaries on election day.

"It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams

I think people have to consider that yes, there is a conspiracy for world government. I understand why Dr Paul doesnt use the word, it triggers negative reactions in people who are ignorant.

As far as their agenda. Here is the deal ; Some of the lower level people, even many - are ignorant of the deeper agenda. They look at it as some sort of benevolent one world movement to the benefit of the white race (mainly).

You are all aware of many of their fronts : the US government is one of their fronts. The banks, the UN, the IMF, the WTO, CFR etc etc I could list them all. It comes down to several multi trillionaire families who have decided they must control the world. You could call this group the "Rulers of the Western World". Alot is focused on corporations and such, but these are all fronts for their work, it is the families and bloodlines that matter. These people operate in a feudalistic fashion, and it is VERY important to understand that.

Their goals include reducing the population to 500 million people, WORLDWIDE. They falsely and selfishly, BUT FERVANTLY believe that the world is overpopulated and unmanageable. They want only a small ruling class with an army - the other class will be worker/slave and that is all. No middle class - neo serfdom if you will.

Ever since the advent of computers and creditcards, they decided somewhere between 1960-1970 to develop the RFID chip. It has finally come into being. Interestingly enough, the two places in the human body exterior, easily accessable and maintaining a slightly lower temperature than other parts are ..... the back of the hand, and the forehead.

The bible in my view is a flawed book, written and rewritten by man....... except for revelation which was too hard to understand to be changed. This is because it was real prophecy, never meant to be understood until now. Its the one part that has credibility because it was written for the wise, not the selfish and stupid. I mention this because the bible mentions accurately the mark of the beast on his hand or forehead.

This is NOT coincidence. The RFID chip is a method to control a population. In addition to having all your info on it.... I have learned it will contain a deadly virus(bioweapon) that can be activated by satellite to get rid of anyone they dont like. Total control. And what exactly would precipitate such an event? I happen to know that terrorist attacks on a massive scale will be used as the impetus(reason) to implement such a device. Anyone refusing will be sent to a concentration camp...... many have been constructed and are merely waiting for the time of use.

I recommend a book for everyone here, if you really wish to understand how these people work. It is known as The Committee of 300, by Dr. John Coleman - a former MI6 agent who accidentally stumbled onto the truth, to his own horror and amazement many years ago. You can only order this book off the internet, it is not published widely for reasons I think you can guess. Good luck to all of you. Aaron Russo's film has truth in it - I do encourage viewing of it. One more thing. I believe that an attack on IRAN and the terrorist response if and when it comes......... will be the event that moves the country into "RFID" territory. Well see.