State of the Union 2008 Money Bomb

First of all, I love this State of The Union concept. I can just feel the emotional power of people having the opportunity to confront Bush as a symbol of the established power structure that has run roughshod over the world, the American public and the Constitution. I just think this opportunity to symbolically stick it to the ruling class would have huge appeal.

I even bought StateOfTheUnion2008.net as .com was already taken and can arrange at my expense to get a web server going. I can fumble through making a simple website, but it will not be polished and will take me a few days. Any good programmers?? If I do it myself, I will just try to pattern the site after the Nov 5 and Dec 16 sites without much of the graphics. I am still uncertain if I will go forward or not, but just might.

The best idea I can come up with is to use the word "spate", definition being a sudden, almost overwhelming outpouring; a spate of angry words.

The web page would give the definition of "spate" and then offer the idea of our "Spate of the Nation" address. Have you ever wanted to just scream at the president as he gave the State of the Union address. Well, this would be an opportunity for us to give him back our "Spate of the Nation" address. If we all tried to express our ideas individually the thoughts would be lost in the crowd, but if we all contribute to Dr. Paul in mass on the State of the Union address day we will be giving our clear response. I would clearly encourage people to contribute earlier if possible, but if they wanted to vent their anger and frustration quite effectively I would encourage them to also join the spate on January 28. Of course the presentation needs to be refined.

Any comments?

The law of diminishing returns in economics,the law stating that if one factor of production is increased while the others remain constant, the overall returns will relatively decrease after a certain point. I realize I will get some criticism for pointing this out, but please read my entire post first.

This is why Ron Paul's pay day may be a better way to move forward. By taking the variable out of the campaign, you actually increase production ( fund raising) . Initially the money bombs served their purpose, we proved Ron Paul's support was real. But most likely we have gotten as much mileage out of this, media wise, that is possible, with one more shot over the bow when all the candidates report third quarter fund raising later this month. Now we have to realize the campaign will most likely need $20 million a month or so between now and November.

IMHO, the risk of a money bomb not meeting expectations far exceeds its benefit. Money is money no matter when it comes in, but steady money weekly to the campaign is far more beneficial to the campaign than peaks and valleys. 100,000 supporters willing to give an average of $50 per week, would net $20 million per month or $60 million for the quarter. Donations at http://www.ronpaulspayday... range from $5 to $100, so there is something everyone can afford. With this kind of money the campaign can pay for their own phone banks, TV ads, or other special projects.

In any event, assuming we win the primaries, we still will have to beat the Democrats, maybe Bloomberg too. .So $20 million a month between now and next November is not far off the mark to build the type of war chest the campaign will need. Don't get me wrong, the money bombs are fun and exciting, however the law of diminishing returns suggests we may want to consider other options. I welcome all comments, suggestions and ideas. Perhaps we can reserve money bombs for the last week in every month to make up any shortfall?

I like the idea of doing something to counter the State of the Union speech, but let's do this one further, and better...by pledging your day. Take the day off work, and canvass somewhere. All day. Those that are 'tapped out' can technically give a full day's wages, and friendly conversation with real people will mean more than money at that late stage.

My $0.02, adjusted for inflation.

I still think we need to donate on a steady basis... however, after Iowa and NH, if Ron Paul does good and more people jump on the bandwagon, one more Money Bomb advertised and promoted would be good for VALENTINES DAY Feb 14 - True its *after* Super Teusday as alot of people suggest, but there are still MANY more days and primaries til the Convention and money to be spent....

This will allow all NEWCOMBERS to get on board for one last HUGE MONEY BOMB and then retire it! It would be strictly for the newcombers and give us time to circulate in the media, internet, and make videos etc. etc. etc...

We will stress the LOVE IN REVOLUTION for Ron Paul on Valentines day and nobody can spin THAT day against the good Doctor. Again, I say this will be for newcomers to our bandwagon and money will still be needed.... in fact the Ron Paul campaign can freely spend their monies knowing 2/14th will refill them....

How about instead of a money bomb, on Jan. 28 during the president's state of the union address we all call congress at once and crash the phone system like we did back in June over the amnesty bill?

http ://www.apfn.net/Messageboard/07-08-07/discussion.cgi.153.html

The idea would be for all of us to unite together and do something (legal) that would catch the attention of the whole country and ultimately allow Dr. Paul some press opportunities to challenge the state of the union lies we will all be told.

I'm going to keep pumping this date until all the noise is drowned out.

January 17, 2008
The $100 Franklin's birthday primary SHOCKER Moneybomb

benjaminsforpaul.com
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

It's all about the benjamins baby...

January 16, "Stop the Bombs" day? or "Stop the War" day?

I can't keep track of all of them either. We need to organize ONE DAY for mass donations.

Then encourage the daily/weekly donations as well.

Or there is so many caucus/primaries going on, just encourage people to donate as much as they can RIGHT NOW, don't wait for a "special day". Donate all month long as much as you can. A one month hustle for the lack of another word.

A "tag team" donation month? Tag, your turn?! Challenges to states? The Great State of Montana challenges The Great State of Oregon on Jan. 11... ? The Great State of Oregon Challenges the Great State of Maryland? on Jan 14?

Ok, I give up...

Why don't we suggest a money bomb date for every day in January and February? The money bombs should get people excited about donating, happen when there is a lull in the news cycle, and be timed so the use of the money and media exposure are maximized. I have honestly lost track of all the money bombs. Some people wouldn't have donated without them and they are a really great idea. I thought we settled on a freeatlast2008.com then benjaminsforpaul.com and then the carpet bomb of money. Now I have no idea. So what is it?

jan 15 - 22 Carpet bomb
jan 16 - anniversary of war declaration on iraq (did we declare war?)
jan 17 - ben franklin's bday
jan 21 - MLK day
jan 28 - state of the union
feb 14 - valentine's day

Clinton and Obama have raised $100 million each. Its all over the news right now. How many of you are gonna go vote for them based on how much cash they've raised? The message of a campaign is what garners votes. Money Bombs do little to get out the message compared to putting campaign advertising. The RP campaign needs money NOW, not on Jan 28th. It may make all the dedicated voters all giddy to see the money bomb results on the news, but people don't vote for a candidate just because they've raised a bunch of cash in one day.

The campaign needs money NOW to get out the RP's campaign message. A money bomb on the 28th is jst as good as throwing your money in the garbage, and it encourages others to hold on to thier money, and then join in throwing it in the garbage.

...unfortunately. Too bad though. I love the idea of countering Bush's State of the Union address.

I googled "state of the union 2008" and found January 28, 2008 to be the date, which is good because it gives people a chance to recover financially from the Holiday spending season.

We need a catchy name for the money bomb. Originally the bomb idea came out of Guy Fawkes Nov 5 Gunpowder Plot as popularized by the movie, V for Vendetta. The Dec 16 bomb was appropriately called the Tea Party, but to me it did not have the same powerful psychological charge of Remember, Remember the Fifth of November. I suppose we are stuck with the "bomb" idea even though it was not appropriate for the Dec 16 effort.

If I could name the January 28, 2008 money bomb I would call it "Take your speech and shove it day", but I think while appealing to me, that might be a little too much for the less angry among us.

Some of you creative young minds need to make suggestions. Something that will capture the "throw it back in your face idea" but without being crude or offensive. Short and catchy.

Remember this is a rebellion we are involved with and simple little titles like "freedom day" are not going to cut it. Huckabee's people did not understand this and did not manage to motivate their Dec 27 copycat bomb. The November 11th and December 31st efforts likewise for Dr. Paul failed to generate enough excitement for many reasons, one of which was they were just viewed as a request for money, and did not give people the feel that they were actually firing a shot in the revolution.

I also think linking a bomb to Martin Luther King is absolutely dumb and a veiled attempt to pander to blacks. The Hitler idea is even worse, much, much worse because it is not good to be associated with things people think of as highly bad. Both of these themes would doom the bomb to failure.

Come on - we couldn't top off $20M - I think the next "bomb" would not beat the Tea Party and as such would be negatively portrayed by media - let's stick with the PayDay idea - steady stream of money every Friday

In the meantime - recruit new supporters - we need a blood infusion - we need to spread our message to mainstream - that is the only way

I'd save the third and most potent money bomb for September - after we secure nomination - then many of us who are maxed out will be able to shoot again - that will be an excellent opportunity to make a $10M detonation

Excellent Idea!!! Let's all keep our money in our pockets until 7 days before Super Tuesday!!! That way it will be much to late for the campaign to make use of it and essentially gaurantee losing the Primary Elections, YOU GUYS HAVE REALLY OUTDONE YOURSELVES ON think TANKING HERE!!!

This would be a great boost for Ron Paul media wise, those who are maxed out can do other things like keeping the blimp up and canvassing.
But another date is needed so that we dont fall short of the near 20million we hard this quater.

just to clarify, we don't have the expertise to make the website. Just suggesting the idea. So, if people like this idea, help is needed to get it going. Is it possible?

ps - personally, the idea of Ron Paul giving a parallel speech during the president's SOTU farce while donations are pouring in to the moneybomb is giving me goosebumps just thinking about it!

I like this one. Maybe RP can give a speech at the same time. Once the media hears of the record money bomb, he will give interviews expressing why Bush and Congress are wrong.

I had suggested making our own date late in January to capitalize on the attention it will bring prior to Feb. 5th, but I like this idea better. The grassroots movement needs a change up from picking historical dates, and shift to a new direction as it grows. I hope there will be debate on here soon, regarding the next money bomb.

This date would give RP supporters who have not maxed out time to recover and save and also give us time to bring in more new donors. This time we can make the goal of 100,000 supporters giving $100 each to reach $10,000,000.

There will be problems with this late date though. Campaign HQ will want the funds to be in earlier, so they can fully campaign for Super Tuesday. I hope we can find a middle ground. Like actually having 100,000 supporters give $100 each on that date, but also finding a big block of supporters to donate once a week, so everyone doesn't save all the money they plan on donating for one money bomb day.

This idea can be promoted,much like Nov. 5th, as a protest donation against Bush and Congress and like Dec. 16th, a promotion of RP who has real solutions to America's problems. The average citizen can have his dissenting voice towards Washington and approval of RP heard by donating $100.

I'm in.

Count me in!

The themes of the November 5, and December 16 bombs essentially were rebellion. There were plenty of people sitting around thinking of contributing, but these two theme days excited them into action.

I think a money bomb while King George is giving his little con the public speech would have super charged appeal compared to Nov 5 and Dec 16.

This is absolutely a great idea if the State of the Union address is far enough off to let the word filter through the internet, and it will be especially powerful if Ron Paul sets off a political shock wave by doing well in Iowa and NH, both of which are within the realm of possibilities.

Lets get this idea circulating.

This is a day to get behind
Hopefully will steal press away from the Dubya brainwash machine.

Can someone else get it going?

Our fascist leaders voted on it and we can contribute $2300.00 each year. So if you maxed in 2007............. get it. Happy New Year. bwahahaha

I think?????????????????

Frankly, my favorite new money bomb idea yet. The other's have been, IMO, sort of a reaction to criticism of Dr. Paul, which believe me, I react whenever I hear criticism, but the MLK bomb reaction to (racism accusations) then the add on days like Hitler goes into hiding, etc (stormfront issue). I think they're fine actually and if this does not take off I'll contribute and participate in them but this idea appeals to me more.

This idea is not a reaction to criticism, this idea is a criticism of the State of the Union which is why we need Dr. Paul.

"We the people look around and find that the State of our Union is a state of dissarray. Our government is unresponsive to the will of the people that the rule of law as set forth in our most sacred founding document, the Constitution, be followed by those we've elected.

"Our money is being stolen through a flawed banking system that flouts that same document and our brave defenders of freedom fight half way around the world against and in a third rate nation that never had the ability to threaten Americans at home.

"Therefore, we the people do hereby resolve that the State of the Republic ought to be restored and we stake our fortunes and reputations on that premise and to elect Dr. Ron E. Paul, on this the 28th of January in the year of our Lord, Two-Thousand and Eight"

The weak and the strong can not keep the same company!!

I will put my 150 dollars in if we can get another one going!

That is a pretty good length of days away to promote, but I wonder if there is a more historical date (reason) for another date.

Thank you for your efforts.

once RP wins or comes up on top in IA and NH.

The timing is excellent. We need all the money we can get for February. It's going to be tough but we can do it!!!

JB.

Although I'm maxed out!!! How can I contribute in other ways? Let me know!!!

This needs to be advertised all over ASAP so everyone know and the media is all over it!!!

JB

What does every think?

What better way to protest the State of the Union fib-fest? Fantastic idea!

I have a feeling we are getting a bit maxed out on the money bombs. I would much rather us all focus on the real needs of the campaign right now. Canvass your neighborhood, participate in phone banks, get out the vote, we need good old fashion work too. I am not against another money bomb and would continue to give, but lets not forget our other tasks at hand.

Great Idea. But it would be doubly impactful of there was a coordinated march on Washington. 10,000 Ron Paul Supporters. Of course they wouldn't let us anywhere near the event, but it would be hard to ignore.

When is the SOTU Address, anyway? Late January?