Are you kidding me?
I post the biggest story of the century that Osama bin Laden is dead, and all of a sudden it's buried under a mountain of, relatively speaking, trivial stories. MY GOD PEOPLE, Bhutto publically states that Osama bin Laden was murdered, and noone thinks this is news?
Do you all realize what this means? It means all the F&%$#*n bin Laden tapes were CIA fakes!!!
We have worked hard and we have gotten the attention of the mainstream media. But now we have gotten the attention of the people who KILL people. The threat of Ron Paul is real, and they are in desperation. Please don't be chickensh&%t!
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I have watched that video several times.
She says that the guy who murdered Osama the same guy who killed Danial Pearl......
I have a very are time believing that.
She was either going to say ''FOR Osama'' or meant to say Danial Pearl.
On top of this, it had to have happened in 2002 or earlier. Why would he kill Danial Pearl after killing bin Laden........
I can see your problem in that no one ever asked her to correct that. My assumption is that they knew what she meant and no clarification was needed.
Well, except for the Truthers who love this type of stuff.
...the plot thickens..
FAUX Noise is playing clips but are NOT playing this particular part...
...BBC has went a step further and is not only editing it BUT CHANGING IT ALTOGETHER!!
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why would Omar Sheikh kill osama?
Some people say that she meant to say, "Omar Sheikh the man who murdered Daniel Pearl for Osama Bin Laden....", however, I do not find this to be a good excuse at all. Why wouldn't she correct herself, thats a pretty huge mistake. Furthermore, why wouldnt the interviewer correct her?? I cannot fathom why neither of them would say something at that moment to correct that monstrous error. Also, that is a pretty big slip to begin with, to leave out Daniel Pearl's name altogether......i dont buy that explanation.
However, why would Sheikh go after bin laden? They worked together and, I believe, wanted to achieve the same things. Until someone can come up with a possible motivation I really dont know what to make of this.....
Woman in the Polka Dot Dress...
What the BBC is doing reminds me of how the interrogator tried to change Serrano's mind about the woman in the Polka Dot Dress!!!
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I agree
This is huge. I have sent it out in emails to all I know. I think that's all we can do. Spread the word. The more enlightened We The People become the more support Ron Paul will get. We, as a nation, are starved for honesty.
Remember, the revolution is just beginning. Eventually, the majority will know the truth and will not stand for any more crap. We will take our country back, but it will have to be precinct by precinct. This is the long haul, beyond 2008. Look at the interview on the 700 club the other day. Dr. Paul said, "We're not going away." What a great line. What a man.
I must admit, I thought Bin Laden was either being hidden, in a deal with the CIA, or died from his supposed kidney disease. But I did find it truly amazing how casually Bhutto mentioned it - as if it were common knowledge! I was struck by that.
Former cabinet members of
Former cabinet members of the British, Canadian and German governments and the Chief of Staff of the Russian Army have publicly expressed their doubts about the official 9/11 story. Recently, a former president of Italy, Francesco Cossiga, said in an interview with the newspaper, Corriere della Sera (November 30, 2007), that “democratic elements in America and Europe, with the Italian center-left in the forefront, now know that the 9/11 attack was planned and executed by the American CIA and Mossad in order to blame the Arab countries, and to persuade the Western powers to undertake military action both in Iraq and Afghanistan
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the point is not that bin laden is dead
Yes this story IS very important! And I see so many people saying this is "old news" or "common knowledge" or "it doesn't matter if OBL is dead". But it DOES matter for one VERY important reason. IT MEANS THE TAPES ARE FAKES. Now we conspiracy nuts take that for granted but the general American population does not. Overwhelmingly they do not. This means our CIA is either lying and faking the tapes themselves or they are hopelessly incompetent. Americans will not be happy if 35% of their paychecks are being stolen from them to support huge bloated government agencies that can't even do their jobs. The CIA says there were WMDs in Iraq. Wrong. The CIA says Iran suspended its nuclear program in 2003. Now Bush and other neocons are telling us that needs to be double-checked because it doesn't seem right. Now all the tapes they said "looked authentic" are fake. What is the purpose of this agency? The American people will not be happy to hear that intel from the CIA can be taken with a grain of salt. If America does not turn on the CIA it is not above the CIA to turn on a president or a presidential candidate.
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this is VERY important..
It needs to go viral bad, i have been telling people hes been dead for nearly 2 years. Even If he hadnt been killed he would have died ages ago due to his condition, he needed constant medical condition something that was impossible to have on the run. Hell the FBI visited him while he was in the hospital could have brought him in then.
Read FBI documented papers, goes hand in hand with 911, only the uneducated or those afraid or to stuborn to accept science still believe that pathetic joke of a scam. Hell I was fooled by that till I saw the actual video footage. The educational system today is a farce that so many are simply incapable of quantifying Irifutable evidence.
I no longer try to argue past a point, I have accepted that some are so stuck in a fantasy world that their actual reality is warped and beyond my means to repair.
Very Old News
I read this in a Pakistani Newspaper and a Russian Newspaper Years ago. And Faux news did a story on it.
People want to believe he is alive and that is what Bush and the media wants.
It has nothing to do with getting RP elected.
Of course Osama is dead, but we don't need any more opportunities for
"crack pot" diversions.
Ignore Bin Laden
Either She was telling the truth, and he's dead, and they are trying to trick you, or more likely, she doesn't know, and mis-spoke, meaning to say Danny Pearl.
One way or another, someone saying he is dead, or saying he is alive proves nothing.
And one way or another, what Bin Laden says (or is purported to say) is not relevant to anything.
you are wrong
It is very important, Bin Laden is the straw man of which the illegal "war" was built on and still one of its strongest legs of support. Ignoring that fact and making that claim is beyond Ignorant.
While this is a forum for RP support it is a forum for his ideals first and formost. They are more important than the man. This is a fight on multiple fronts not just the election front. WHICH this would benifit RP on as well.
IF we all ignore him
His straw man nature will go away. Bush Himself has already said he was irrelevant, the last Zawahiri tape went virtually un-noticed.
Once we don't care about him, he has no power over us.
Besides, this tape is so easily explained as a mistake, that it is irrelevant.
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This is old news!
Where have you been?
dead Bin Laden
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Keep bumping this video so people will become aware that bin laden is dead and bush and the media is covering it up
Degrading blahblahblah...from blahblahblah.
I presume your offensive comment on this blog was directed at Alex Jones. If so you should be ashamed and hopefully smacked up side the head a few times by fellow "truth" seekers. I have been listening to Mr. Jones for a good while and NEVER has his info. been proven wrong or even exagerated. In fact Alex has been responsible for waking up more people ( including myself and dozens of friends ) then most others combined. I would even venture to say that there would probably not be near the movement that we see today had it not been for him and the other superb programs found on Genesis Communications Network.
I whole heartedly recommend listening to.
The Power Hour
Downsize DC
Etc. Etc. Etc.
Tell me blahblahblah...are you REALLY interested in the truth or just shooting your mouth ( text ) off ? What have YOU done to provide us with previously hidden facts and extremely important information ?
Or is your ONLY effort ... to down play those of us who do something !!!
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I spent many months reading and studing this blog before joining it...mainly because of senseless criticism such as the one you wrote
here. Try and provide support for this movement of get lost !!!!!!
yes, blahblahblah can go ELSEWHERE and blahblahblah...
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IF, and it is a big IF...
the people do wake up, and realize that most of these boogey men are simply props of the power elite what will happen then. I fear that they will internalize the conflict, try to frature the American people, as was done in the sixties, and finalize the crackdown of liberty. This is in line with Dr. Paul's fear of facist rule; the power elite need to be seen as 'saviors' I pray the people see through this facade.
I understand the importance of this and your desire
to spread the word.
We are going to get Dr. Paul elected and focus on that.
Please keep the fear messages down a bit as FOX, CNN the NYT and the rest of them pound us all regularly with horror, death etc.
Fear, horror, doom, assassination this is their game.
They were so delighted with the news feeds from Pakistan all designed to scare the sh%$ out of us and get us to change our voting plans..
F%$k them.
Hope is our game.
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Confirmed my suspicions
Nice link. Bhutto just confirmed my suspicions, but the rest of the Sheep don't want to hear, especially ABCnews which is repeatedly deleting my comments. Now, my IP address has been restricted from their site!! Bastards! Oh well, if OBL is dead, it further explains why Bhutto was killed, the lack of progress made by the Pakistani army and the physical discrepencies from the last OBL tape, where he looked younger and had a darker beard. People requiring dialysis don't age THAT well without serious medical help.
just delete your cookies
just delete your cookies and restart your computer and your ip should change unless you are on a static ip
He also might try unplugging
He also might try unplugging his modem for five minutes allowing his provider to reassign his IP. Though it could take a few hours depending on how they run things, or maybe a proxy?
Common sense would tell you
that it would be hard to make it through the incredibly rough terrain of Pakistan and Afghanistan with a kidney dialysis machine in tow.
OBL is propped up as an Icon for Islamic radicals, and a boogie man for the west.
Point is , He was funded ,trained and equipped by our govt. He was a CIA asset,as was Saddam Hussein.
This speaks to the heart of RP's message of staying out of entangling alliances and upsetting the balance of power in the middle east.
Now we hear of a new OBL message to come( just in time as usual). People need to understand that the MSM is not our friend..They are a tool, used to manipulate and scare us. If you can control a persons thoughts, than you control the person.
The question is...Is it worth mentioning on this forum?
My thought is that the purpose of this forum is to find the most effective ways to campaign for RP. It is about bringing the best Ideas into ACTION for the end result we all want/need.
I don't believe it is a place to bring peoples own agenda to the forefront.
ie; liberation of hemp,white nationalism,new 9/11 investigation,chemtrails,etc.
Even though I may agree with some of these things,it is counterproductive to campaigning for RP. His message is already complex for some of the dumbed down masses.
I do however commend the person for posting this, because it is important to understand who the enemy is,and understanding what their tactics are.
Make no mistake...we are going up against a very dark force that has been in power for a long time,and they will stop at nothing to prevent RP from being elected. If you do not believe my last statement,than you are either ill informed, or a fool...
pray for Dr.Paul
Anyone can do it. Just ask for his protection.
I posted the same Frost interview last night
and it dropped off the hot forum topics within 5 minutes.
Giuliani
Giuliani was quoted once (not too long ago) as saying that we killed or "we got him" about Bin Laden. I forget the exact quote and I know there is a video of it somewhere. Maybe someone else can link it...
bump
sometimes it's hard to know what to believe...even if we are seeking the truth...but I bump because it is too serious not to.
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Bump??
- and I was trying so hard to ignore this thread and let it drop.
yeah, too bad you can't de-bump or un-bump I guess? sorry...
..no offense.
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I have known that Bin Laden was dead for years...all you had to do was listen to the media reports (sometimes they are their own worst enemies). It was well known that Bin Laden had serious kidney problems years ago, in the caves on a dyalisis machine (shoot me if I spelled it wrong) which is a REALLY bad sign for anyone with kidney disease.
Then the "New" video's of Bin Laden which are real, show him with very gray hair and beard and looking extremely ill (bad sign also). They all of a sudden nothing from Bin Laden for a long time and then all of a sudden there are only photo's with the transmissions (very young pictures) and then in 2007, all of a sudden Bin Laden is very chatty again with a picture of some dude with a very full face, black beard and huge nose. Yeah right.
He's been dead for awhile and anyone who thinks otherwise is falling for the media propaganda. But here is the serious part. IF they had reported the truth that Bin Laden was dead, ask yourself what would that mean?
It would mean that this global war on terrorists is a lie and they have to keep it going some way. This is what keeps the warmongers and military complex continuing their efforts to waste our taxpayer dollars, invade middleeastern countries and continue the Empire.
The media won't dare touch this issue because then Dr Paul would be correct and they would rather have McCain or Guiliani running around saying Terrorists! 9/11! We are intelligent, thinking people and it is up to us and the internet to keep this message out and let people decide for themselves if they are being tricked again with misinformation. Freedom is the enemy of fascism.
Keep this link bumped up!
PROOF before posting
Show us a dead body or remains FIRST, then post. Otherwise this will come across as credible as Bigfoot or Dennis K's comment on UFO's.
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It could easily have been a slip of the tongue, most likely she meant to refer to Daniel Pearl's murder, and there's NO WAY to know for sure, you can't ask her, because she's dead. So this inquiry is COMPLETELY POINTLESS.
CNN
stated this morning a new bin laden tape was released today lol
I agree with you, she didn't mince words
Makes you wonder where the truth really is. I find it interesting that Frost didn't even question her remark. She clearly said Osama was murdered, and the newsboys ain't talking about it. We haven't want to find Osama, because if we did bring him in, he'd introduce so many loopholes in our "official 9-11 theory" that it would make it look like the joke it is.
Bin Laden has never been looked for
As long as Osama is out there, somewhere, our government can continue to push this ridiculous War on Terror agenda that is leading us straight to hell.
If the "evil man" is still alive the vast majority of the American people will allow the government to feed them whatever they want them to believe. The worst thing that could ever happen for the establishment is for them to capture Osama Bin Laden.
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continue posting ALTERNATIVE VIEWPOINTS
How is this hurting the campaign? johnpp2 is brave enough to post this, Ron Paul are now asking you, "Are you brave enough?" in checking out alternative viewpoints. I guess some RP supporters still cling on to years of MSM bullshit. Not necessarily that I believe this particular video, but I will see OTHER VIEWPOINTS
This revolution is worldwide. If America fails, God help us all
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Some people in the libertarian movement still retain the abilty to discern fact from fiction. However, I doubt that a moronic post like this would hurt the campaign since most folks don't bother with garbage such as this. What would appear to hurt the campaign is when the rp devotees show up at rallys for other candidates and chant rudely. What hurts the campaign is retards such as the jones(?) character spreading worthless conspiracy theories around.
what hurts the movement...
...is individuals name-calling people trying to spread information (with references) and never ever addressing the facts in question. Open your minds, don't ignore the facts, and PLEASE don't lash out to RP supporters who brought this movement up to begin with. If it isn't apparent with all the Ron Paul smearing tactics on the MSM during interviews and debates, then sir, you are truly willingly ignorant.
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MSM plaing again the terror card
Just in time for Iowa to scare some voters..."new" Bin Laden tape to come out..."DUBAI (Reuters) - An Islamist Web site said on Friday it would carry a new recording from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden about "foiling plots" in Iraq (...)"
http://www.reuters.com/ar...
Tapes are fake
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A must see...
This is bogus and HURTING THE CAMPAIGN
Look, in the Youtube comments itself someone rightly points out that the murderer named, Omar Saeed, was charged with killing journalist Daniel Pearl. Bhutto had a slip of the tongue. The interviewer didn't call her on it, she didn't scurry to correct it.
If you want to propagate this conspiracy crap, take it off Daily Paul because it will not get Ron Paul elected!
But how do we know for sure?
What if Bhutto knew something we didn't? We may have suspected it, but weren't getting any proof through reliable news sources. Maybe Bin Laden was taken out years ago. Maybe she knew all about it, but didn't realize that Americans did not. Maybe her slip of the tongue contributed to her demise. How do we really know?
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Have to agree
This appears to be the case. She meant to say Daniel Pearl.
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WOW!!!
If she was right, this interview may have been the reason!
The tapes are fake
The tapes ARE FAKE...is not a secret. Google it and take a look for yourself.
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i think this is gonna be
i think this is gonna be like jimmy hoffa except citizens arent union members and we have a right to be pissed now.
I should have replied to you
However I was in a hurry to place the info on a couple of other places.
thank you!
I think the importance will sink in quickly..
Chill, brother...
I hate to say it, but until his decaying body is produced, what we have is STILL just conjecture. I watched the video, it is compelling, but running around and saying we have PROOF is off the hook. Please, don't tie Ron Paul's name to the belief that there is a conspiracy within the current federal government to use the spectre of Osama Bin Laden to scare us into giving up our liberties. Ron Paul is doing a great job tapping into that vibe WITHOUT unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.
Look, I have my doubts, and would like to believe Bhutto, but without hard proof we essentially have heresay. Don't base your campaign platform upon less that the LOGICAL TRUTH.
I love your enthusiasm, just continue to "keep it real".