Vote Fraud Will Be Next!
Posted December 29th, 2007 by Freedom
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I have been a member of this forum since it first came online. I have to say that they are getting desperate now (excluding Paul from the Fox debate) an are really afraid Paul could win. None of their tricks over the past 12 months have worked! So look for them to try to control the votes! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THEY CAN KEEP PAUL FROM WINNING!!!! WE MUST STOP THIS FRAUD!!!!!
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Absentee Ballots
are counted using an optical scanner (most made by Diebold). The link below will take you to a website where you can find out if your state has a Voter-Verified Paper Record (VVPR). Believe it or not, 11 states currently have no VVPR and do no audits. If you click on your state it will take you to another page where you can see if there is any pending legislation regarding paper ballots.
http://www.verifiedvoting...
Bills have been introduced in both the US House & Senate that would require a voter-verified paper ballot. Here is a summary of the legislation.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi...
Bump!
I'm presenting this info to my meetup group, which is now over 700 strong, in person. This must be a regular part of the discussion with every new RP voter we recruit!
http://www.ronpaulvotecou...
Vote Fraud
Vote Absentee. Leave a paper trail if you don't want to vote on their machines. Trust no one or machine with your vote. Paper ballots, paper ballots all wrapped up with a bow and ready for counting.
Voluntary Association, Mutual Cooperation.
Absentee ballots are also counted by computer
according to a post on another thread here at Daily Paul - which means they too can be fraudulently counted. We need affidavits from everyone voting - and after all the uproar over Florida's election in BUSH v Gore isn't it curious no state or federal government resolved the problem by simply having pen or pencil check marks in a box next to the candidate's name? Then count these ballots in the open by hand. Its done that way here in Australia and I have never heard of vote fraud here with this method.
marlow
Absentee ballots are also counted by computer
according to a post on another thread here at Daily Paul - which means they too can be fraudulently counted. We need affidavits from everyone voting - and after all the uproar over Florida's election in BUSH v Gore isn't it curious no state or federal government resolved the problem by simply having pen or pencil check marks in a box next to the candidate's name? Then count these ballots in the open by hand. Its done that way here in Australia and I have never heard of vote fraud here with this method.
marlow
Absentee ballots are also counted by computer
according to a post on another thread here at Daily Paul - which means they too can be fraudulently counted. We need affidavits from everyone voting - and after all the uproar over Florida's election in BUSH v Gore isn't it curious no state or federal government resolved the problem by simply having pen or pencil check marks in a box next to the candidate's name? Then count these ballots in the open by hand. Its done that way here in Australia and I have never heard of vote fraud here with this method.
marlow
A smile and a very warm 2nd
A smile and a very warm 2nd Amendment
Yeah Sure! Like anyone will actually do anything. Get real…
Yeah, our 12 gauge shotguns against their con-trails filled with super deadly toxins. You also tend to forget that they control all the money & credit, transportation, food supply, raw materials, airwaves, internet, media. etc, etc, etc. They wouldn't even have a problem with nuking a major American city to drive their point home.
Dream on dude. The 2nd amendment may have worked 200 years ago when most American's could boast of having at least two brain cell to rub together. Today? …Get real. Less than 5% of Americans have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot if the directions were written on the heal. The 5% of people who know what is going on are (most likely) all Ron Paul supporters.
"It does not take a majority to prevail... but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men." Samuel Adams
This is the Powers that Be's "Ace in the Hole"
From what I understand, the vote in IOWA and NH can't easily be manipulated. I believe it's counted in the open. HOWEVER, I don't know about South Carolina and Nevada and Michigan which are next.
I believe the Establisment is more afraid of this movement than ANYTHING in decades and rightly so. What can we do?
bump
bump
Jan 1st there is no FEC
Both majpor parties are blaming each other for not seating chairs for the Federal Elections Committee. Since they overlook voting fraud...what do you suuppose we can do?
Buy a new gun....
Happiness is a warm gun. :)
Vote fraud
is an extemely important concern. We must attend to it.
Stalin said the voters decide nothing, those who count the votes decide everything.
We need to take care of Fox, but let us also do everything we can about making sure the election is open and honest, or else this is all for naught.
So we have our hands full.
Get out the vote, introduce everyone you possibly can to Ron Paul and get them involved. Spread the word to new people.
Take care of FAUX.
Address the matter of vote fraud. http://www.votefraud.org/
No One Wants A Fair Vote Except You and Me....
Unfortunately the only action to get a real vote by real people was delt a blow by the court in New York yesterday.
Bob Shulz of the We the People foundation file a motion in the landmark National Clean Elections Lawsuit asking the court to enjoin the State of Iowa and all of it's cities, counties, etc. to enjoin the state and the parties from conducting a vote unless it was on paper, supervised, transparent, and the results announced at the vartious pricincts around the state.
According to Bob:
"Judge Kahn has denied our motion for injunctive relief against Iowa, saying, in effect that it would be unfair to Iowa to force them to respond with so little time left before the Caucus and at this time of the year."
I don't know about you but that makes me mad as hell.......
All 50 states have filed motions to dismiss that lawsuit for various reasons.
What really bothers me is that the states, in their opposition are basically saying that they don't want clean fair elections. It's not like this suit is asking for monetary damages or anything of value, except that our vote be real, transparent and actually be the will of the people.
Call your governors, attorney general's, and state elections officials and ask them why the don't want clean, fair, transparent elections.
Our vote is really the only thing we have left to fight the entrenched system with. If we don't have fair clean votes we may as well just not vote at all. If your vote doesn't count what difference does it make?
The entrenched interests in the country will stop at nothing to maintain the status quo and yes, they will even steal your vote. The media will then, without cracking a smile, serve up the same old stale political hash and expect us to swallow it whole.
Get the word out. This is the only tool we have left and it's being stolen from us....again
vote fraud before - but it didn't matter
Kerry or Bush? Kerry played his role and it wasn't in it to win.
But now it's life and death to them - the phony/innacurate/biased polls and the news ignoring Ron Paul is just laying the groundwork for a contrived result that matches their lying fantasy world.
We must have a verifiable vote count!!!
Jim Condit's site:
http://www.watchthevote20...
Computer Programmer testifies:
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Hacking Democracy:
http://video.google.com/v...
first things first
Before they get to the Diebold machines, there is the caucus in Iowa.
There was a thread on here asking people to volunteer to be a precinct watcher for Iowa. Supposedly it was from the Ron Paul campaign and was important. Now it is nowhere to be seen. I'm wondering what happened to that thread.
More important than RP's forum exclusion
This should be at the top of everyone's list of priorities. The fascist elite pulling all the strings have plans in place to rig the Diebold vote counting machines to steal the election. The most viable means for us to combat this theft that I have seen is all RP voters sign affidavits they voted for RP. Go to www.ronpaulvotecount.com to see how you can be help. If the official vote total gives Ron much less than the affidavit count we take immediate legal action to require a hand count in the affected precinct(s). All Meetup Groups should be arranging for getting these affidavits signed on election day. There are threads on this site detailing the procedures to get this done, yet I have seen very little comment on this most important matter. Are you involved with this yet?
marlow
Bump!
I'm presenting this info to my meetup group, which is now over 700 strong. This must be a regular part of the discussion with every new RP voter we recruit!