The Most Articulate Wise Post about what FOX is doing, Spread this
Don't Prove Them Right!
On December 29th, 2007 NinerSevenTango says:
Fox News wants to paint all Ron Paul supporters as loonies, outsiders, fringe, kooks, whatever.
DO NOT give them ammunition to fire at the campaign in the days leading up to these crucial primaries.
WE NEED to be able to let the world point at FOX as the foolish ones overplaying their hand. WE NEED the world to see that FOX is trying to squash the constitutional and pro-freedom message.
WE ARE BEING WATCHED. HERE. NOW.
A very old tactic, used by organizations around the world, is to infiltrate a group, find its most unstable and gullible members, and provoke them into doing something completely off the wall. Don't allow yourself to be turned into a 'lone gunman', or part of a 'mob'!
This is crucially important right now.
If we have logic, reason, and truth on our side, now is the time to demonstrate that.
Remember that evil springs from impotence. The impotence of their philosophy is their weakness. They are afraid of the freedom message, and would like to get some of us to discredit it, preferably by an attack on them. Their fall from grace will be from a greater height if it is by their own actions. If they exclude Dr. Paul from their forum, it discredits them, not us or Dr. Paul. Disrupting their forum will only give them an excuse to discredit us and rally their audience in their defense.
It could cost us the election.
Use reasonable, peaceful means to express your displeasure, but please, please, do not hand FOX a gun to shoot us with!
If anyone causes a disruption at that event, the commentary will be all about the kooks who support Dr. Paul (and they will drag up every kook they can think of). They will spin on ad nauseum about how dangerous a grass roots campaign is, how incompetent Dr. Paul is for not controlling his supporters like the others, how the neocons were right about the backlash against the state being a threat of homegrown terrorism, plus whatever else they can think up. Their tactic will be to paint Dr. Paul as 'unpresidential'.
They are searching for anything negative to report about the campaign, because they cannot win any arguments against following the constitution.
Please don't sabotage the campaign!
FOX News comes from the viewpoint that supports measures to enact police state powers. All they need now is a visible demonstration to prove their point that freedom-lovers are unstable wackos who can't be trusted with their freedom.
Thanks for reading this far, and sorry for disagreeing with your last point, Michael.
Respectfully,
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yes, lets wait for the world to condemn fox news........
Just chill out Paul Revere...think of the moral indignation of the clueless masses that will arise and kill those damn redcoats in their sleep!!!!!!!! Those sage republicans will finally see through the machinations of fox news via the principled mass inaction of the supporters of the cynically excluded candidate. Suddenly, logic, reason and truth will rule the day...for the 1st time in human history!
Really, what % of fox viewers that night are even going to be aware that Dr. Paul is missing? Personally, I'd love to see a streaker race across the stage with a Ron Paul sticker on his ass. Ok, maybe not that exactly (but there would be some great press, with a little sense of humor...oh, wait they are republican primary voters, can't rely on a sense of humor)...but we need a little showbiz here to drown out the Fox blather, which will be negative regardless of what is or isn't done.
We have a lot of college students out there, how about a Kiss for Liberty kissing booth outside the venue with a coed, or a group storm the stage wearing Ron Paul masks, or a Ron Paul shirted Morganna rushing the stage to lay one on Rudy. I think it would be great if they interrupted it repeatedly in a humorous way.
"WE ARE BEING WATCHED. HERE. NOW." Be vewy, vewy, quiet. I don't mean to be flip and I get the act extremely normal bit...but lets not forget one of the reasons we support our candidate is the joy it brings us. If he can't be there, I'd love to see some of his people show that.
Amen...
Let the Iowa and NH votes proclaim Fox's wrong-headded and biased thinking. We need to properly reflect Dr Paul. Remember the 3OVL in the R3VOLUTION
wants are unlimited, means are scarce...
I agree we have to be
exceptional in our conduct. They are looking to get us in trouble and make us look bad. After viewing the Ralph Nader tape this police state has been going on for some time. So I do not see them changing their minds in letting Dr. Paul have access to their forum.
The campaign MUST begin forming alternative plans that will gain maximum exposure even if the campaign has to buy it. It is now, or never the campaign seems to be at a tipping point.
What if Dr. Paul went to the stock exchange or had a rally in the financial district with anyone and everyone who agrees that there needs to be changes. This could be huge and show that Dr. Paul is VERY main stream.
Stacking the deck
Fox News has been stacking the deck from day one. They are not a legitimate news organization. In as much as it is wrong and unfair this could possible work to our advantage, finally exposing Fox News for what it really is, a mouth piece for the Neo Cons. After thinking about this exclusion,I've concluded that most likely not too many people will be watching a forum the day after a double debate. And furthermore as a mouth piece for the Neo Cons, IMHO Fox is just trying to distract us. Why else would they exclude Dr. Paul from this event, while inviting him in the future to the SC debate Jan.10th? Kinda makes you wonder doesn't it? As for the consumer boycotts, it a great idea,however spending one once of energy that you would have spent working on the campaign to show Fox we know what they are doing,
it most likely playing into their game; distracting us from what has been working very successfully: recruiting new supporters.
It is easy to do nothing; better to do something
I'm still making it a personal point to boycott Fox and their sponsors. I've already made the phone calls. and I'm sticking to what I said until January 6th (if RP is included) or six months (if RP is not included). It's easy NOT to buy a stereo or a brand of hair gel.
ON THE OTHER HAND: Given a choice between a meetup group with happy faces waving "Ron Paul" signs on a trafficked street corner or a meetup with angry faces waving "No Fox" signs in front of a vendor, the Happy Ron Paul group helps us more. Given a choice there, I'm in the Happy Ron Paul group every time.
That's my personal solution on how to divide the labor on this.
Boycott the advertisers
If RP is not on the forum I wont buy what they are selling.
This is something
hundred of thousands of us can do today. Cancel any service or product from newscorp. Start by dumping DIRECT TV and let them know why. Can we start a website to pledge to cancel Direc TV. This will make their stock go down in fear and speculation.
Careful
You may have a contract with Direct-TV..I have an 18 month one and it would cost me dearly to void it
It will cost them more
I can you imagine the speculators talking about our massive cancelations and you just see that stock taking a dive for the good. I lost 19.95 they lost millions. Ha ha ha ha now who is laughing he he he. Is up to you if you are willing to sacrifice the penalty for freedom.
$700
it would cost me 700 bucks to void my contract and they will never miss you or me...I see we're boycotting Comcast also...LOL
ok in your case
you can continue loving communist is FOX. Good for you and by the way go an vote for Huckleberry while you are watching FOX from your DIRECT TV communist link station.
Sorry to hear that
it sounds you signed a contract with the devil.
Great Post and I agree
I got frustrated initially with the media, but this makes me even more determined. I decided not to watch anymore. Fox does not matter, getting the message out by grass roots people does. Nobody watches fox anyways. We need to be creative and have fun and get the message out. Its obvious we are making an impact or this would not have happened. So everyone keep your chin up and lets get the job done.
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I have a huge Issue
With Fox News. Before anything they should be about news. No matter how you see it their bread and buttred is news and news should be first and for most. Lets look how the story started. It was from the Associated Press story and they claim to be the global news network and if you check any of your local news papers most of their storys come from the AP so it is not a off the wall crazy source. As till now i have not heard an offical statment from Fox News as to weather the story is correct or not. I mean a story about a debate Fox News are claimed to be haveing should be something they could either admit or deny in a very fast way and how could the GOP headquarters in New Hampshire being shut down by complaints not be news in it self but has any major network reported on it to confirm it or deny it? That it is an issue makes it news and why have we not heard directly from Fox News on it?
You are right
You are right that Fox News has neither confirmed or denied the AP story. What is more important, however, is how we react to the apparent decision to exclude Ron Paul from their upcoming event. We must devote our energy to the things that have brought us success thus far and not get bogged down with the misdeeds of Fox News. It also would be a good idea for the campaign to hold an alternative event where Ron Paul can use the entire time to articulate his positions on all the issues. If the past debates are any indication, the campaign forum would give Dr. Paul only a very limited time to articulate his positions on the issues. This way we control the agenda. In this way, Fox News' attempt to silence Ron Paul will backfire.
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We should not be looking hurt Fox News
We need to be looking to help our campaign. Let's keep it positive. After all, the message of liberty is a positive message.
Agreed
The campaign wants supporters to be optimistic. That's why they want you to say Ron Paul is Pro-Peace, instead of Anti-War. We need to continue to be positive thinkers and congregate in NH. At the last minute I decided to go up to Des Moines and see Dr. Paul after he was excluded from the Iowa forum last June. It was an incredible event, to say the least. We need to have another crowd gathering event, and then stay for a couple days spreading the message door-to-door.
We all know FoxNews is wrong for not letting Dr. Paul in the forum. The best thing we can do is discredit them. We need to do everything we can to help Ron win in NH and that will make them look like fools.
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hear here!
Regardless of whether or not there is a Fox forum, and regardless of whether or not Dr. Paul is included, none of us should watch Fox. I say turn them off and encourage others to do the same. I made my mom turn it off for 10 days as an experiment to try to free her mind from the propaganda, and it worked. The other sides of arguments crept into her head without the admittedly clever Fox propaganda tactics, and she eventually came into the light. She can now be seen out and about wearing her Ron Paul shirt, and her yard sign is on the way. Fox is a shameful outfit any way you slice it, but I agree that we should not physically disrupt their studio.
John Peterson
www.ronpaulyellowpages.co...
It was canceled!
Can we get any confirmation on this, this article says the debate is canceled, though it's not a debate so what is the truth?
http://www.worldnetdaily....
Something we can do
Here's something all of us can do regarding the exclusion no matter
where we are (from Downsize DC website):
http://action.downsizedc....
Easy way to counter this.
If you're saying we're fringe and crazy than most military families are fringe and crazy.
won't that make fox look stupid?
we have the most military support and we need to bring that up.
we are middle america.
We need votes
We are winning.
Fox is acting like we are winning.
Attacking Fox will not get us one vote.
Trying harder than they do will get us all of the votes we need.
I have to assume they "might" try something.
I think it is important for us to be aware of this and to keep it out in front.
At the rally, all must be on the up and up.
Stop emailing these people and get back to campaigning.
We want it more than they do, that is why we are winning.
T
Igniting the flames of Liberty
I agree let Fox keep on lighting the flames of Liberty for us.
FOX can keep ignoring Paul and a large part of America, and we will sit back while it backfires and the flames of Liberty get stronger.
What are Fox News channels
What are Fox News channels Ratings this year over last and the year b4 ,and the year B4 that and so on...?
Tim
In the MILITARY? Join my Meet-Up group
http://ronpaul.meetup.com...
Lookin for a fight?
People are easily scared. If America were to believe that Ron Paul and his supporters were out to steal ALL of the worlds supply of portable corndog toasters with built in AM/FM radio and roadside emergency flasher they would gladly relinquish all to save that from happening.
There is an obvious difference between diplomacy and harassment.
Be gentle as sheep but wise as wolves. JC
GO RON PAUL!
Excellent
This post makes me think of how effective this campaign is and will become as the elections are coming - even as it fights upstream.
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I agree with this post - let
I agree with this post - let us allow Ron paul to make the calls, and we follow his lead! Don't get stupid.
Rich in NH
a Prideful attitude
Remember, "Pride (always) goes before a fall". The fall of the OM is going to be thunderous in days, weeks, and months to come. Just wait, be patient, watch! Bide your time.
Idea
To stab Faux in the heart, we should try to get the good Judge and Colmes to come to the good side. That would be a major put down to Faux.
Judge Andrew Napolitano:
http://www.judgenap.com/c......
Alan Colmes:
colmes@foxnews.com
Call all the Local Stations
What we should do is call all the local stations and tell the new department that Fox is not inviting Ron Paul in the NH Debate and he is higher in the polls than some of the ones that are being invited. Fox is not fair and ballance, Or something like this, Many times you can talk to the reporter that does the new on the Radio stations and ask them to please look into this and report the story.
Great post
Keepin' it alive
Talk
To friends, family, neighbors, fellows of all sorts. This is the best way to counter the Fox BS.
Ok, this is the second time I've posted this re FOX
I like to think of watching FOX News in these terms:
1. That I am watching a very badly produced and poorly acted TV show that I know is going to get cancelled soon (John From Cincinnati perhaps...?), but that I know will never be able to sway me away from the truth of how bad it really is.
2. And as I watch, I know what is going on inside the vacuous heads of many of the hosts: "oh god, please don't let me forget my lines!"
3. That I need not feel any more guilty watching it than I would craning my neck at a car-be-que on the side of the freeway.
That all kinda puts it in perspective for me. If you go to any rallies or get inside the debate hall, please try to keep this perspective in mind.
Can we possibly TOP this for
Can we possibly TOP this for a week in a row?
Great points!
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Canvassing + Raffle = Viral Ron Paul!
This needs to be read over and over
Thanks for the wake up call. I hope we all listen.
"Use reasonable, peaceful means to express your displeasure, but please, please, do not hand FOX a gun to shoot us with!"
AMEN!!!
That post said it ALL! Take if from a Viet Man MI Vet. They are trying to hang by our own tongues; Don't take the bait; Walk High Road; Lets keep our Eyz on the PRIZE!!!
Who Watches Fox News Anyway???
There is no need to worry if Ron Paul doesn't get into a debate on Fox News since only the brain-dead sheeple watch it in the first place. I haven't watched it since 2001 myself. So let's not pretend that Fox News has any credibility and any viewers that can be persuaded by Ron Paul. These are die-hard nonthinking Bush Boot Lickers. I would be more concerned if he was excluded from MSNBC or CNN.
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Only problem is...
Do you think that if FOX and the MSM has become so blatant as to dismiss RP from the debates, that they and their keepers won't have their very own paid faux rabel rousers "representing" Ron Paul??
I can Imagine that a group hired by a subsidiary of NWS (FOX) group is spray painting RP Revolution banners right now in preparation.
You think that I'm stupid and paranoid? -- the Iraq contracts are estimated to be worth over $30-50 trillion dollars to the Military Industrial complex (not to mention the interest to the Private Central Bank who funds it all). That's a 30 or 50 with twelve zeros after it... (write it down once). Ron Paul's policies would close the valve on that high pressure pipeline of blood money.
Somebody doing their corporate duty can probably hire a lot of "Rowdy RON PAUL" people for a few thousand dollars each - DIRTY DEEDS, DONE DIRT CHEAP. They want RP to GO AWAY now!
Good Point!!!
Assuming that will happen, and I wouldn't put it past them one bit, what can we do to keep them from painting us red? Should we video tape anyone who is disruptive and investigate them ourselves and release the info should it prove to be vindicative? If so, how do we get around the media stonewall?
What if they plant somebody...
To disrupt their own fake debate. I'm sure they are capable of doing that.
Exactly
I personally think they just indicted themselves by excluding a "Top Tier" candidate now which even before they weren't doing. This will prove to people that there is something wrong with Fux Nooze.
But clearly if they can exclude Dr. Paul they can just as easily influence people by claiming that his "minions" are doing crazy things and at this point it just doesn't matter.
I introduced 2 people to Ron Paul today. How about you? Talk freedom and live it.
Best advice ever
This is a great post.
Stop, Think, Breathe, Take a Break, Settle Down, Consult with trusted friends.
Jezzzzz, FORGET ABOUT FAUX
Jezzzzz, FORGET ABOUT FAUX NEWS. GO AND GET DELEGATES!
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs.
Thomas Jefferson
Great post!!! There will be
Great post!!! There will be 10's of thousands if not millions of people wondering why Dr Paul was left out of the debate. Surely a large percentage of them will realize that Fox is trying to silence him. This coul backfire big on Fox. People in this country are starting to wake up.
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Agreed blowback is a reality and anything negative we do will be spread faster than Al Qaeda!
Agree
100% !
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Hurt the entire MSM machine
We can, and we can pit them against each other.
See: MEDIA BLACKOUT WEEK - Funeral Theme with Solidarity
http://www.dailypaul.com/...