
Money bomb for the "grassroots"
Submitted by supporter on Fri, 01/04/2008 - 03:43
I think there are some great ideas coming out of the grassroots effort. Let's do money bomb's for "grass roots" efforts. We have a few great ads. Let's raise money to get them on TV. Maybe a SuperBowl money bomb?
If the campaign isn't going to get a new campaign manager, I'm not going to give them any more more money. Even people I met that have heard of RP don't really know what he is all about. I think his ads don't really get across his ideas or his personality.















I'm in
this will be fun
Could we start a project
Could we start a project such as a "Friends Of Ron Paul" campaign or a "Committee To Elect Ron Paul"? I think a direct general fund should be established so that donations aren't going all over the place where they could be spread too thin or potentially create many underfunded projects instead of a few well-funded, well-performing projects.
I think any campaign should be aimed at individual states as their primaries are coming up, that way we can infuse national fundraising into a particular primary, thus bolstering results at that primary. This also would lead to more supporters being turned up and greater contributions to each successive primary drive.
I think the national awareness is good but probably overstated in importance. The national awareness we've been working on has lead to the fanaticism we've created and has lead to a wealth of funding for Ron Paul. I think we have capitalized on this to probably near peak returns at this point. National investment into localized primaries will be the next logical step because national awareness won't do any good if he doesn't make a good run through the primaries. National awareness has funded NHQ quite well but local focus is where we need to be. It is imperative at this point that we maximize the gains made in each primary. Local TV ads in each state as their primaries are coming up, ads in movie theaters, newsprint ads, etc.
A national grassroots fund should direct those funds into local projects as described above. This can be done by offering the funds up to meetups that submit projects that are approved. The amount of funding can be increased for meetups who get the best results and subsequent plan submittals will get more funding if the meetup has had satisfactory accounting of actions and their spending.
Volunteerism also needs to be complimented by paid efforts. We should be hiring full time sign people to put up Ron Paul signs just like those who do this work for home builders, etc. We can also hire young people to dance around at street corners with Ron Paul signs as we've seen done with mainstream businesses. Paid canvassers, phone bank staffers, etc. There also needs to be a paid local grassroots manager in most counties. Imagine every major city having paid full-time sign placers, think about how many signs that could be put up. Also, putting these tasks in the hands of paid help ensures it gets done and frees up volunteers to do things like speaking engagements, direct person-to-person contact, flashmobs, etc.
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Flashmobs showing up at local news stations is a great way to get free media exposure for RP.
I am for a grassroots bomb but
walking away from the RP Campaign is not a good thing to promote. They still have an important job to do, and we need to continue to support them
It is not so much of an issue
that the main HQ will be neglected. These grassroot efforts need only a few 100,000 dollars. We will only fund the established ones.
*Sigh* Sorry, but I tried to contact you guys
who have said you are interested in working on this project, but DP does not allow me to contact multiple people.
Please, if you are interested, email me through Daily Paul...
Copy of email I tried to send...
Outline
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A) Sites Contacted
B) Current Project Outline
C) Current List of Possible Workers
A) Sites Contacted
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I've contacted four different sites:
1) Paulunator
-- http://www.paulunteer.com/projects/
2) Ron Paul Reveres
3) Ron Paul Donors
-- http://www.ronpauldonors.com/
4) Pledge For Paul
http://www.pledgeforpaul.com/
Brian said that he has wanted to do something like this. He has offered the domain "RonPaulProjects.com". We could create what we wanted on it and he would link to it (or to any other domain).
Dan, from RonPaulGraphs.com has a whole page dedicated to grassroots chipin projects and has offered to give away control of the page. Brian also mentioned he knows many of the grassroots project leaders
Patricia wrote that she is setting up a "centralized location for ideas such as yours". She agrees with our goal of setting up "a market place of ideas and products."
Asked for more details. S/he expressed concern about unaccountable grassroot projects and that s/he favored pushing the PACs.
No answer yet..
B) Current overview of the project
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I wrote a subset of the following outline of the project. If you are in, please comment:
C) Current List of Possible Workers
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These are the people from DP whom I think may have expressed interest in the idea:
Please write me back at to tell me if you are in or not, and if you are, what you can do…
Please add your name to the list by emailing me.
I will then setup a mailing list for official workers...
Thanks so much.
re[love]ution,
Dennis
Happy Dancing re[love]ution,
Dennis
Sorry for the delay, today
I responded to your e-mail.
tnj
Great Idea
Fantastic Idea! Please contact me @ barrera.ray@gmail.com with info on how I can help, I have a site (look at my sig) where I can help advertise, and I can even help with the site development, I am a web designer.
- Ron Paul 2008 -
Choose Freedom
http://patriotarmy.blogspot.com/
-Campaign for Liberty-
Grassroots moneybomb
Excellent idea. It should be a site of all legitimate chip-ins....maybe a quick discussion of which ones people trust and like most. Money, of course, should go to each individual chip-in and not to one common fund. I assume this is your thought.
Also, timing is critical. Superbowl is too late; needs to be next Friday (payday) in order to benefit substantially for Super Tuesday. Maybe the following Friday, but not sure if that is too late.
Bedtime, have a sign wave tomorrow. There were 35 of us last week. The local GOP organizer happened to drive by and asked us to stop by and give them brochures on RP as people were asking. Naturally, one of our guys obliged. And yes, we had a crap load of horn honks and thumbs up......for this area, amazing. We will not assume anything and know we have a lot of work to do. Desperate need of some tv ads in FL too!
Bob W., Naples, FL
So
anyone ready to create the grassroots moneybomb website?
Here's a possible person to build the website.
I found this guy on RonPaulForums in the last day or so and he posted a comment saying he was a pretty good website developer and wanted to know how he could use his talent to help RP!
Sounds like a definite possibility.
Here's his own website:
http://www.pledgeforpaul.com/
Somebody else will have to contact him I've been up many more hours than I want to count so I'm crashing after one more post.
Great Idea!
Pick the date January 22.
Post up the Chip in Page where all the grassroots items are.
Treg
Well, I'm in too!!!!
Here's my post from before..
I've emailed both the Paulunteer and a RonPaulDonors to see if they are willing to host this effort.
re[love]ution,
Dennis
Happy Dancing re[love]ution,
Dennis
I think you should add to you list...
...tjonline's #2 item. "If they can have a post on their website summarizing their achievements till now and future plans."
You know have each participating grassrooter give a few lines for the purpose of letting people know what their project or TV ad or whatever is so as to promote their project.
And if it is a TV ad or a video or a DVD they should definitely have a link to it so that people can actually view it and then decide to donate to it or not.
Then of course the chip in thingie would be right there next to the TV ad, etc.
I would like to
Do something like this ,it doesn't have to be Jan 6th but would bring awareness to the fact that the media is biased . Hell, if its good enough it might be on TV http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ehg4qha3qUI
Freedom Or Bust
This is the plan
On January 2nd, 2008 tnjonline says:
All we need to do is make a website..like many of the other money bomb websites and decide which grassroot movements are going to participate on that day.
I think people get too worried about things such as who should be put there, what if they will run away with the money etc. I think we should just go ahead and make a website.
Then ask the few grassroot campaigns if:
1. They would want to participate
2. If they can have a post on their website summarizing their achievements till now and future plans.
3. Commit to a donation goal for the plans that they are already working on.
4. Commit to updating the amount raised every few minutes to 1/2 hour on the moneybomb day.
5. Commit to stop accepting donations on the moneybomb day after the goal has been reached. They can resume again later.
Those who accept can have banners on moneybomb website.
I think the above should cover all aspects. I am just thinking aloud here, but it seems a sound plan to me. The people who make the website will just function as marketers for these grassroot efforts...for free!
The date could be set for preferably around the 10th-15th of this month.
tnj
I must be channelling you tnj.
I am advocating the same exact thing. So you know I support the idea at least.
-JP
The year a small-government Senator is finally elected: Rand Paul 2010
Great Idea!
If done properly, this kind of money bomb could even attract foreign support as they woul be able to donate. Remember he has a huge following even outside your borders!
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Conscious Co-Creation Now!!!
Grassroots Money Bomb!
M. Raborn I fear that many of us who have been here since the start of the campaign are finding our pocket books are pretty flat. However, watching the numbers as we reached for the $20 million to end the 4th quater, most of the donors were new.
That is great and I think funding the grassroots ideas great. The grassroots are so professional and creative and they deserve the credit for getting Dr. Paul this far. I am confident they will continue to get him the nomination and then win the national election!
I would like to make one suggestion of an effort that deserves funding, that is Linda Hunnecutt and the Granny Warrior RV. She has been on the road for Dr. Paul since the beginning. I think she is currently on the road to Texas to make sure Dr. Paul wins the nomination in his home state. Also check out this link where she is broadcasting live Monday thru Friday.
http://www.gcnlive.com/Programs/RonPaulRoadShow.htm
M. Raborn
Ron Paul
Youtube hour long special showcasing his videos!!!!
I'll keep saying this,I have said it all along
"a new hope" MUST be broadcast!!
grassroots moneybomb to fund this!
Do we have someone with the ability to set this up?
I'd propose we need something that allows people to post proposals with budgets and vote on them. Then we do a money bomb to see if we can get enough to fund them.
As I understand it, airtime on TV is fairly expensive compared to radio. I'd like to see a comprehensive plan. Perhaps we can solicit a few marketing firms to submit proposals.
Let us, THE PEOPLE, WIN the nomination...
and then we will GIVE it to Ron Paul. It is OUR revolution, right or wrong. After last night we need to start swinging for the fences with our enthusiasm, creativity, and PASSION. Letting some centralized "managers" redirect our efforts into "mainstream" campaign efforts has simply "MANAGED" to get us BEHIND a has-been war monger and a half-dead TV actor.
If we are to go down, let's go down on our OWN terms, in our OWN way.
SUPPORT GRASSROOTS!!!!!
In the spirit of individual freedom of choice, and
anti-bureaucracy,
why not make the Grassroots Moneybomb a simple website with a kick-ass ticker and with links to Denpratt's list, plus add others?
A couple of geeks could pull that off and then a team of wordsmiths like us could promote the hell out of it.
Better than filing for a 501C3 (I run a non-profit, I know) or becoming a PAC.
-JP
The year a small-government Senator is finally elected: Rand Paul 2010
Exactly
It is really quite simple. Someone hust needs to make a website. We will spread the word. If the person does not have the money for hosting the website, I will donate.
and
of course our ticker would have to be a little less than live, i.e., Blimp, JBlack and others kick back to us money totals as THEY ARE receiving them on the day of this Bomb. Guarantee you the recipients would go for the idea. -JP
The year a small-government Senator is finally elected: Rand Paul 2010
It might be overkill, but I'd like to see proposals first
If we end up sending $5M to JBlack, we'd want to have an idea of how they intend to spend the money.
Let me disagree
The point isn't to collect and disburse the money as we see fit (I hope), but to "water the grassroots" by making everyone aware of the various efforts and promoting a Bomb. I do agree that proposals for who is on the list should be submitted, but no more oversight than that. - JP
The year a small-government Senator is finally elected: Rand Paul 2010
My thinking
was that "money bombs" would be more likely to raise larger sums than open giving. At a minimum, we should have a place that lists all the options.
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The year a small-government Senator is finally elected: Rand Paul 2010
BRAVO...therse are the real warriors in this battle.
I'm in...
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Can we bump this to the main page?
Can we bump this to the main page? Let's get an official list of potential money bombs.
I say
a RP youtube television special.Hour long.Ill donate all day and night to that cause!!!!
I
am in!!This a grassroots effort.so let the grassroots decide the tv commercials!!!
Here's a list of some of the grassroots efforts you can fund...
My semi-official list of efforts: Most Effective Contributions
Just a few examples of what you can do with $100..
There's so much that you can do with your money....
What do you think is most important expenditure of your $100?
re[love]ution,
Dennis
Happy Dancing re[love]ution,
Dennis
How about That adam curry guy
He's known speaks very well and could set up a commercial
Give me Liberty or Give me death
Give me Liberty or Give me death
we need a group that can give Tax deductions
Is there anyway a legal not for profit run ads them we could get tax deductions on investing alot of money
Give me Liberty or Give me death
Give me Liberty or Give me death
Would these chipins do?
http://www.operationbroadcastfreedom.com/
Absolutely
We look like Congress in 1913 when they abdicated fiscal responsibilty to the FED and IRS. We lost the country. We are losing this campaign to "professional" staff who (if you saw what they are paid) are "soft" core.
In less than a year our "culture" is already being diluted.
The early Ron Paul supporters had "red blood" in their veins. Now the blood is turning pink.
We have done or inspired everything good about this campaign. We have what it takes and with God's help we need to re-take the lead in this organization.
Before we go and start a new fund, we need to evaluate what existing projects deserve our help and then purpose in our hearts to AGREE on which grassroots ventures are worthy of focused support. Then set a schedule to focus our time, attention, resources and energy on each one systematically.
Grassroots: This Is Our Campaign - Own It.
Grassroots: This Is Our Campaign - Own It.
I started a thread on how we can do what you want done.
Check it out:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/21138
We should select 3 worthy
We should select 3 worthy causes to money bomb. Then as people donate they also select which project they support. Based on the amount they donate will weigh their vote more or less.
I think 2 options right now are the aircorps and jeremiah black ad campaign.
Each option should have amount needed. When it's over we'll divy the money based on vote rank up to their needed amount.
the blimp has cost over a half million dollers already
It's cold people are covered up not looking up to the sky there keeping there heads down
I said the blimp would have so many problems due to weather I still donated a few dollars to it
Give me Liberty or Give me death
Give me Liberty or Give me death
If Paul wins the nomination
If Paul wins the nomination then we can have a get him elected money bomb, but right now don't worry about Hillary/Obama
I concur with a caveat
I do in fact think that a "moneybomb" for us would be a great idea. Money to be placed in actions around the country in various incarnations. But DO NOT believe for a second that the campaign will not need more money as this thing goes on, they will simply need continued support to compete with the $100 million dollar war chests of HILL-O-BAMA types.
Puppets come and puppets go but the world's stage is getting cluttered.
The "campaign"......?
Needs to be confronted a little. I think it's obsene for the "Fundraising" manager to be paid $30,000 a month - And that was before the fourth quarter explosion. What did he do to raise money? If we paid Trevor Lyman $10,000 a month he would make it rain "Benjamin Franklins".
Grassroots: This Is Our Campaign - Own It.
Grassroots: This Is Our Campaign - Own It.
NO SHIT???
WTF.... $30,000 A MONTH... someone tell me this ISNT true...
it's been refuted
Track Jane Aitken to find the link.
-JP
The year a small-government Senator is finally elected: Rand Paul 2010
After reading Goldwater's
After reading Goldwater's post last night about a central grassroots organization that the campaign HQ could or should be more in touch with, I tend to agree. However I say I would be happy to cut my donations by half to the official campaign. The real issue would be how to organize. Lots of different personalities and egos, and where? Maybe just centralize in cyberspace and by phone? Some ideas that come to mind is ad contests that can be voted on by donation (not by amount just by one donation) and I'm sure many more ideas are out in this very creative group.
The major hurdle is implementing any of this. Any suggestions?
After reading Goldwater's
After reading Goldwater's post last night about a central grassroots organization that the campaign HQ could or should be more in touch with, I tend to agree. However I say I would be happy to cut my donations by half to the official campaign. The real issue would be how to organize. Lots of different personalities and egos, and where? Maybe just centralize in cyberspace and by phone? Some ideas that come to mind is ad contests that can be voted on by donation (not by amount just by one donation) and I'm sure many more ideas are out in this very creative group.
The major hurdle is implementing any of this. Any suggestions?
I just started a thread on how we can do what you want done.
Check it out:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/21138
I agree
The official campaign is incompetent. I suggested a grassroots money bomb awhile back as well.
Yes, let's water the grassroots with money
The grassroots tell the complex story of freedom more simply and more personally. Especially via more JBlack TV ads, more DVD mailings, more canvassing, more personal letters. Let the grassroots fund the grassroots -- communicating the LOVE and the reLOVEution directly to the American people.
re[love]ution,
Dennis
Happy Dancing re[love]ution,
Dennis