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ABC Debates (live webcast)

Looks interesting so far.
The first 45 minutes of each debate will have candidates addressing each other.

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I always...

I always watch the debates using the New York Time's Analyzing the Details tool, you can watch these January the 5th ABC debates over at their website (you can easily skip through sections and read the transcript). I can definitely recommend watching it this way.

wonderful debate performance

Ron Paul was right on:
1) He was the only one who didn't turn personal
2) He made his points clearly

I continue to be amazed that he willingly continues to speak his mind KNOWING that these snickers are all around him. He has more courage than the rest of these guys combined.

Over the next month (certainly post Super Tuesday) most of these others will disappear. We can ensure Dr. Paul continues because we will fund him. Eventually The debates will be between Dr. Paul and one other -- thus giving more opportunity to be heard.

Let us all stay focussed -- and take the lead from Dr. Paul. He has consistently delivered this message for thirty years. That is patience. We cannot complain that no one is listening because of the current day-to-day freak show. This will take commitment and patience.

Taking the High-Road

Last night, Ron Paul was the only candidate who did not ridicule or attack another candidate. He only politely waited his turn, gave logical answers and even asked rhetorical questions his opponents wanted nothing to do with. This to me is a sign of strength; it is another example of Ron Paul taking the high-road.

As I watched the other candidates snicker and laugh and not let Dr. Paul finish his answers I was upset they would treat him this way, but then it dawned on me this is what they do best -- go on the offense -- bully others to get their way. If they would only listen to Ron Paul in their treatment of each other -- follow the Golden Rule. There will be BLOW BACK for their behavior -- eventually it WILL happen. Then I asked myself -- why do they need to bully Ron Paul -- the answer -- because they FEAR him. They FEAR his message -- they FEAR his support and their initial reaction -- just as it would be in the whitehouse is to go on the attack.

We must not stop taking Ron Paul's lead. We must continue to spread his message taking the high-road. "Let there be peace on Earth...and let it begin with me."

"There is nothing to fear, but fear itself."

Mom / Wife / Teacher / Christian for Ron Paul

Debate

it is a tag team of sorts. how many half wits against dr. paul? the big question remains, is america full of half wits willing to buy the misinformation from the half wits?

the process is so skewed against dr. paul. war and all the crap sells so much better on cnn, fox, etc than hope, freedom, peace and prosperity - the message of dr. paul. maybe this is why the wrong doings of the u.s.'s foreign policy will lead to moral and economic decay of the empire to bring it to its knees. maybe china won't have to go to war to have influence on the u.s. by then it just might own it.

After watching a segment discussing Hilliaroid's likeability...

I could only wonder that if she's selected, err, elected - who would be the first lady?

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Big Lie - Humble Foriegn Policy

During the debate it was suggested that Bush had to change his foriegn policy after the attacks on 911. Everything changed. I was hoping Dr. Paul would point out the fact that Bush, during his first month in the White House called together his cabinet and began considering justification to attack Iraq. 911 was not the cause of the change in policy, rather the excuse for Bush and the NeoCons to implement thier ultimate goal. The NeoCons openly wrote about transforming the middle east, and needed a Pearl Harbor like event to set their plans in action.

We are not over there fighting terrorism, we are there to destroy those nations and steel thier oil. In December 2003 I participated in a US Ambassador's Conference at HQ USEUCOM, in Germany. All the US Ambassador's from the Caspian Region and the Senior Military in the European Command met to discuss the issues at stake. The name of the conference was "Hydrocarbon Infrastructure Protection Program." In otherwords, Protect the Oil Program. They had maps showing the entire middle east, depicting existing and future oil pipe lines and names of all the oil companies involved in this plan.

It angers me to hear the MSM and NeoCons saying we are spreading Democracy and fighting the Global War on Terrorism. If you think we have created a crisis by going into the Middle East, wait till we get fully engaged in Africa. As we speak the US Africa Command is being created and deployed. Both the west and China are competing heavily to control this continent.

We must put a stop to this madness. Although I wish Dr. Paul would speak more about this, I understand how the MSM and NeoCons would use this to thier advantage. This is why we must spread the word ourselves.

I sincerely believe this is our last chance at a peacefull, political revolution.

Brian Sydnes
USAF Veteran
Defense Contractor

Crooks & Liars..

web site had this to say about last nights debate..
http://www.crooksandliars...

The ABC/GOP debate in New Hampshire today showed few surprises, but did bring some heated discussions as the candidates pulled out all the right wing talking points in the final push for votes. The format being used by ABC lent itself well to actual conversation, which is refreshing. The question in this clip went to Ron Paul, asking him his opinion on the Bush Doctrine of preemptive war and the the politics of fear took over.

Paul explains how U.S. foreign policy helped fuel the attacks of 9/11, and from there, the rest of the candidates go on the offense. Watching them try to explain how the islamofacists hate us for our freedoms and why America’s actions play no role in terrorism is nothing short of comical. Mitt Romney, once again showing his ignorance to history and international issues, says that the U.S. needs to help bring Islamic countries into “modernity and moderation” — then proceeds to give President Bush a beaming endorsement for keeping us safe. And, right on cue, Rudy Giuliani chimes in, claiming our foreign policy was “totally irrelevant” to 9/11 and terrorism in general. This clip is proof positive that if elected, all of the GOP front runners will continue the failed Bush Doctrine of perpetual war, and are completely unfit to lead our country.

recurring theme

I'm still in the middle of watching this debate from start to finish on http://www.youdecide2008.... but there is one recurring theme that I just don't get. Everyone seems hell-bent on being the strongest nation on earth. What good is there in being strong if you aren't FREE?

Ron Paul is the only one saying that we give the terrorists an excuse to attack by being in their space and sticking our nose into their business. Everyone else keeps repeating more of the same: "it's a different world; having soldiers over there keeps us safe here," etc., but NO ONE explains HOW keeping soldiers in Iraq (or elsewhere on earth) keeps us safe at home. How does keeping soldiers overseas prevent a biological warfare attack on US soil? Or any attack for that matter? I really wish someone would EXPLAIN instead of expect us "morons" to bob our heads blindly in agreement.

recurring theme

I am being synical but feel the need to make this point -- so when our nation collapses financially and we are no longer the strongest nation on Earth -- the terrorists won't want to attack us any more? problem solved

Mom / Wife / Teacher / Christian for Ron Paul

I just don't get it

Radical Islamic Terrorists - Ron consistantly states that they do not attack us because we are free - they attack us because of our foriegn policy. Yet, Mitt Romney sits there shuffling in his seat, disputing that claim, and talking about how we must help Muslims fight their enemy.

Rudy says that Dr. Paul's policy is FLAWED.

This is my question.

Are we the only DEMOCRATIC Nation in the WORLD?

No - So my question is "Why aren't the other DEMOCRATIC nations attacked by Radical Islamic Terrorists?"

they do

Please keep some perspective here. These anti-civilization mobs do attack other democracies...Great Britain, Denmark, the Netherlands, Spain, France, Italy, others. Of course, this doesn't justify in any way invading Iraq, but don't fool yourself about the jidadists. Please recall these are the people who destroyed the great Giant Buddha statues at Bamayan in Afghanistan months before 9/11. This storm was coming.

We were attacked by a sub-government in Afghanistan supported by the so-called real government (Taliban) who were propped up by Islamists in the Pakistan Army and ISI (their CIA). We had every right to go after them...but our Congress should have declared war against them, that's what the Constitution calls for, not these sneaky ways to get into war.

America would have supported that. America would NOT have supported invading Iraq and forcing Congress to declare war on Iraq would have put a stop to that plan.

They do

The vestiges of European colonialism still linger today. It's obviously true that other European countries have been attacked, but there is still a lot of animosity among the former colonies towards their old masters. That is not going away, and our continued support of those same old failed policies probably just makes it look like the same play, different actors to a lot of these people.

don't buy the propaganda!

don't buy the old corporate media propaganda!

We attack people in just about every country too! In fact, we have our noses in just about every conflict going on right now - often times supporting BOTH sides (Iran contra ring a bell?)

And that thing about the Buddhist statues was way overblown - the Taliban themselves said they blew it up because people all over the world were so concerned about the statutes, willing to fork out loads of $ to save them... while Afghanis were dying from starvation, no concern for the people.

The so-called Islamists are only a few hundred perhaps - as Ron Paul says - and they have grown because of America's actions. Take Iraq - no al Qaeda there until WE invaded (bin Laden & Saddam were enemies).

If we would stop propping up dictators in Muslim / Arab countries there would be even less.

exactly! and Romney has the audacity

to tell Ron Paul (the MOST EDUCATED re Foreign policy - heck, probably re anything!) - among them) that HE needs "a thorough understanding" of "radical Islam"

Are these candidates seeking the highest office in the country (and ultimately in the world), THAT ignorant??

Do they not read what people like Scott Ritter, Michael Scheuer, Chalmers Johnson et al write? These are the people in the know!

Are that many Americans really so dumbed down?

They'll elect one of these war mongers so that the voters' own children are sent off to the slaughter?

'cause

other democratic nations don't meddle over there like we do, toppling elected leaders, bombing, occupying. WE supported Saddam Hussein, we sold him his biological agents, we installed the Shah who oppressed Iranians for over 20 years. Most Americans don't know or don't believe this stuff, but Arabs who are at the short of the stick certainly do. That doesn't mean every Arab wants to strap a bomb to his chest and blow something up, but there are a tiny few who will, and more and more Arabs resent the US everyday we are over there violating Iraqi sovereignity.

Americans shouldn't underestimate the length of the collective memory of Muslims. When Bush Sr. started dropping bombs in Baghdad, the headline in some Arab papers was "al-Salabiyya!" ... which means, "crusade".

Also, this is a fine point, but the US isn't a democracy - or at least it wasn't supposed to be. It's a constitutional republic. ;-)

What if you install a Democracy

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and after all the lives and money are spent,
they elect a radical Mullah?
Bad plan

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The Lasting Image from that debate

I can't get that Dem & GOP lovefest out of my head.
Body language tells you a lot & it was clearly obvious that Dr Paul's supposedly loyal Party members are united much more closely with their fellow CFR members than with their fellow Constitutionalist Republican.

Disgraceful, horrifying and shocking that one lone man has had the vision, determination & courage to stand up to this.
Greatest man of my lifetime.

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Romney making fun of RP exclusion?

oh, and this comment directed at Ron Paul while they were cutting each other off left & right re "islamic terorrism" (Ron Paul, of course the logical one explaining we need to know WHY people attack us..)
(about 1/3 down the page in the transcript)

MR. ROMNEY (?): We're going to miss you tomorrow night. (Laughter.)

I can only guess this is about the exclusion at the Fox debate.

It's definitely worth reading the transcript (someone posted below-- thanks!)
http://www.nytimes.com/20...

Actually...

...I think it was McCain! I heard that comment as well, and a youtube clip of the exchange that prompted that quip labeled it as McCain...and it does sound like McCain...his accent anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Romney praises Bush

I can't believe Romney is praising GW's action on the war (in his first debate response)

Does he not realize how LOW the Bush's ratings are right now?!

And that 70% of Americans are against the war?!

Oh, yeah, I forgot... these guys dont' really care what the American PEOPLE want... just what their corp/military/indus benefactors want!!

just finished watching

Ron Paul did great!

He was the only one talking sense.

The truth of his message can't help but radiate through the mess of rhetoric and mud-slinging coming from the other politicians.

that debate made me wanna

that debate made me wanna puke......paul didn't do well.

that's just my first reaction. i gotta watch again but.......

viva la revolucion!

Whole debate here

Paul did well (but what he didn't say...

Paul had a great, strong, reasonable, prominent showing in the first half of the debate. I think he could be less emphatic about how sprawling a problem terrorism is. It happens. What he didn't say in the debate that he's said before is that the two MOST Islamic countries have the least suicide terrorism and the two countries with the most terrorism aren't even ISLAMIC. I think he could bring up Michael Scheuer and Chalmer's book about the motivations behind suicide terrorism. That would help his argument. But he did get in the point about our propping up dictators. It made him sound less naive.

It was a good debate; nicely moderated and mostly interesting with regards to actual issues and not just platform chatter.

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Wow, he just wiped the floor

Wow, he just wiped the floor on the ABC debate that I just caught on YouTube!

He just friggin makes plain sense, and I loved the fact that he explained why oil is going up in an economic sense due to the dollar devaluation in laymens terms, or how ever much you can do that with that topic...

Attah boy RP! KEEP IT UP!

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Canvassing + Raffle = Viral Ron Paul!

Couple of good links until someone posts the whole enchilada!

GOP Debate: Health Care Crisis?
Republicans argue against universal plans.
http://abcnews.go.com/Vid...

Ron Paul on ABC Debate part 1 of 2
http://youtube.com/watch?...

Ron Paul on ABC Debate part 2 of 2
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Ron Paul for Peace!

Transcript of Debate

Dress the Part & Turn Heads!....

In his next televised debate or appearance and in following, Ron Paul should dress in an iconic and memorable fashion capturing the revolutionary spirit of his stance and campaign, forcing Americans to question how big of a government we really want. Think how IMPACTING it would be if he walked out on stage dressed like one of our forefathers and armed with lots of Thomas Jefferson quotes!!!!...... Get people talking and reminding them why the Constitution was written.
It's been too long, and we have forgotten.....

member less than 7 hours...

you are either a naive newbie or a troll.
set a spell learn some lessons...

Yeah, right

Didn't you see the guy dressed in a tri-corn hat and colonial garb file for his candidacy in New Hampshire? Talk about instant ridicule. Your idea really is a bad one. Leave the "Anachronistic Re-creation Society" ideas to people with lots of time and creative talent...say, the striking television writers...oh, I said 'lots of creative talent'...never mind.

you better double up on your meds

that's just whacked out!

No.

I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous. Dressing up in a costume makes you fashionably of that period, but it makes you completely unconventional and weird if you actually did that in modern times. It would cement his image of being a 1860s candidate.

Holy Cow! Hillary just said she's voting for Ron Paul!!!!

She said she had a dream last night that everything she said was blather, and that everything Ron Paul said made perfect sense and was part of a principled view of the world.

Her New Strategy

Her Campaign Manager must have told her that Ron Paul is gaining by speaking the truth. So she put her finger in the air to feel which way the wind was blowing and then said "yeah, I get it, I will be like Ron Paul and tell the truth in order to get more votes, HA AH HA AH AHHHHH Cackle Cackle HAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"

ha.

Wishful thinking.

Are you for real?

Did she actually say that? Wow! She finally speaks of truth.

PART 2 of the youtube vids

PART 2 of the youtube vids isn't working

Nice clip, thank you.

"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"

Excluded from upcoming debate

The NH GOP pulled out of sponsoring the Fox GOP "forum" after hearing Ron Paul was excluded. Consider contacting the NH Republican State Committee by phone at (603) 225-9341 or online at nhgop.org. I think they deserve a pat on the back by Ron Paul supporters.

Debates

It never fails! Every time I watch a debate, my blood pressure goes up and I almost get sick to my stomach the way they let certain candidates talk till they are blue in the face while others get so much less time answering questions. Tonight was no exception. Why would it be so hard to ask each canidate the same question with a 2 minute response and then the mic is cut off? Then change the order of questioning for each question. So much more material could be covered. And keep the camera on the man talking! We dont need to see their smirks as Ron talks. You can tell they are scared to death of him. Well, MSM! I just answered my own question. *sigh* At least I vented here a little. I almost put my foot through the TV. Ron did good! The only one that gave any intelligent answers.

That's why

That's why got to do it by ourselves!

Let's RON PAUL!

If the American people

If the American people cannot, or will not, understand Ron Paul's message,It will not be due to any failure of Ron Paul in the debate. Ron Paul is just too honest for his own good to stoop to the level of the sharks that cackle and
smirk at him--- Man, they really have no sense of respect nor class to a veteran member of Congress who has more knowledge and experience than all of them put together. McCain at least should know better.
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"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!"

--Lily Tomlin

Another Ron Paul Win

Up to 70% so far at www.youpolls.com/details.... and Lew Rockwell says: www.lewrockwell.com/blog/...

Well done.

Shhheeeeessssshhhh!

I was watching the debate while at the gym pedaling on a bike when I stupidly handed off the remote to a young lady, who immediately messed up with the remote and turned the damn TV off...just when Dr. Paul was responding to the question on the high gas prices. Sheesh! I should not have handed the remote to her, so I caught only the very last two sentences of what he said.

Can someone kindly post word-for-word what he said on the gas prices? I know that I can get transcripts of the entire debate later on...

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Does anyone have full video of the debate?

Does anyone have full video of the debate, not just RP's responses? I'd like to watch the entire thing beginning to end if someone knows where it's available.

I just need to say this

I just need to say this after watching the debate. With the exception of the Good Doctor, I have never seen a bigger bunch of flippin' idiots up on a stage together. Please someone call the insane asylum!

@I just need to say this' (ReCreation)

I'm in UK so needed to hit the sack at 2am. I went with the feeling of utter dispair for the world and USA. Don't these people do history or economics? At least you get to vote for your leader I suppose. I'm begging you,- support Ron Paul and we can retrain our puppy dogs to follow in the new direction. Nevertheless, the debate was a good insight into american politics and explains a lot. Thank you ABC.

truth is immovable. It touches the listener.

EVERYONE WHO HAS HEARD DR.PAUL KNOWS HE SPEAKS THE TRUTH.

That is why the LONGER we stay in this RACE the more chance he has of winning.

Dr. Paul wants a lot of things and none of them are power. He has watched these cookies fight for the spoils of power in Washington for 30+ years. He waits for them to shut up and he tells the truth. IT IS WORKING. You want him to be bloodthirsty? WHY?! WE ARE THE BLOODTHIRSTY ONES. WE GOT THE KILLER GIG RIGHT HERE NO ASSISTANCE NEEDED FROM THE DOC.

DO NOT DISCOUNT AMERICANS. Many say they are stupid and lazy. NO!

Freedom beats within the hearts of all of God's children and this flame is easily woke!

The fire has been lit. We have gained 20,000 meetup members in 30 days.Do you have any idea of what is going on? We have picked up more more in 30 days than all of the other candidates combined. COMBINED.

CAN YOU SET YOUR EXPECTATIONS ASIDE FOR 2 MINUTES AND LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE?

20,000 US CITIZENS HAVE AGREED TO ATTEND MEETINGS AND WORK TO SUPPORT DR. PAUL SINCE DECEMBER 1ST. We will hit 100,000 TOTAL meetup members by next week.

The GOP has blown off FOX News. Do you have any idea of how important this is? Do you know how much JUICE RUPPERT MURDOCH HAS WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY?! HE OWNS THE GOP. FOX IS THE BUSH CHANNEL.

THIS IS A REVOLUTION AND WE HAVE GOT THE NH GOP IN THE REVOLUTION WITH US!

Don't flip out on these primary results. Give it time! We are in this game! If you Google Dr. Paul right now you will see that he has zero coverage from big media. Just little guys. The NH GOP's announcement IS NOT BEING COVERED. They are frozen stiff and don't know what to do. If they lose the National Republican Party they are done! Do you hear me!?

REJOICE!

We want it more than they do. We want it some much we convince the state GOP to back us on an exclusion and DENT a major network.

WE ARE STRONGER THAN THEY ARE AND THEY ARE TERRIFIED OF US!

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