Maine Attorney General Response: No Jurisdiction Over Party Caucuses

I'm no legal expert, but I do suggest that fraud, is fraud, no matter how you wish to cut it.

Did any part of the process involve money ?

Did the initial contract (verbal or other wise) differ from the final outcome ?

Try offering something for $10 bucks, take the money and don't give the product.

Hey, they're my rules, I decided to change them, I'm a private club and can do what I want.

Fraud is fraud and is punishable.

I don't care who they are, or what their religion or politics.... If they can't even have an honest vote amongst themselves..............???

Of course Maine has no laws governing party conduct, and lots of other states may be the same way. Without rules, the two factions can put up establishment candidates.

Sorry Mr. Paul, but you won't get a vote out of me in the primary. I'm not going to associate myself with fascist bozos. The primary game is completely rigged against you and there is no recourse.

Please seriously consider running as an independent in the general election, the real election, the only election that actually matters and stop trying to be accepted by a minority party that represents the highest ideals of two centuries ago.

The Republican party is dead. The only reason its corpse isn't festering is because the Paulistas keep pumping formaldehyde through its veins.

primaries are not elections per say. It is selecting a candidate within a party. Surely party should make all the rules. Yes, today it is a two-party mafia. Still, Santorum beats RP and Romney in many states without money and people on the ground. If RP had more voters backing him, the GOP establishment wont be able to stop him. Especially in a caucus where it is difficult to fudge more than 5-7%.

It's the private internal matter of a private organization.

If you care about how a business is run, you get involved.

You get involved way early on, LIKE TWO TO FOUR YEARS PRIOR

RP and the GOP itself BEGGED us to get involved over the past four years, don't complain now for your own lack of involvement.

It is that easy.

Please take the time to read and comprehend this blog story. It pretty much nails it very well on the head for all to understand.

Pass it on to the war mongers in your family and ask them, are you really ready to give it all up for a little CNN TV warcrimes time? Do you want a future, or not?

http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2012/02/consequences-t...

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If you actually check the majority of nations that claim to be a democracy you find the following:

1) 1-3 major political parties with sometimes similar names that are supposed to somehow represent their political ideology or basis for governing. Having the word democrats in the name is also popular for some reason.
The ruleing parties have been around since 50 or more years.
The newer ones that made it to power ran on popular votes but still stick to mainstream ideas for other issuses.

2) They all pick or nominate their party leader from within the party in a closed session (you in the USA think you are an exception but from what we are seeing I doubt it)

3) The true election always have two large political parties or coalitions that appear to have different views on how the country should be run. Every MSM is playing along with the idea that this somehow is the choice to have when elections are approaching.

4) Every "radical" party or ideology that is seen to gather support is bashed in every way possible. Status quo must be preserved or else the sky will fall.
Granted, beeing conservative is a nice quality to have but why does this only apply to the mainstream position and why is the true conservative position the one that will make the sky fall? Especially when we can see the sky starting to crumble.

5) No policy or political ideology that is coinsidered "mainstream" by both the MSM and the parties is ever discussed with different ideas and solutions. That is to say the status quo is never challenged. No journalist will ever ask the right questions, almost as if questions are screened for every interview.

Face it, we dont have any democracy in the free world. The idea of choice does not exist. The notion that everyone can start a party and run for the powerseat in order to present the best solutions with the best ideas does not exist.
If it did, logic dictates that there would be atleast one ruleing party in the free world that did not support the globalisation process. Instead all of the countries are more or less on the same path to the same endgame.

When we have Russia and China as our guardians from further wars in the middle east then something is very wrong.

At the very least there should be discussions. If you ever happened to find yourself watching some parlament procedures where there is supposed to be a debate or something similar regarding some topic of choice. All you are going to hear are people dodging questions, giving lame answer and avoiding any form of civil discussions.
For gods sake, these people are supposed to be running countries. We all need the best solutions. Not party decided positions that never change.
From my understanding the whole point of having an discussion or debate is to voice oppionions and to try to persuade others to choose the best solution.
I double dare anyone to find any politicans that changed their mind following a political debate that started out with different views.
It does not exist. But when faced with a problem or issue there is only one perfect solution.

Political correctness is to blame here. For a politican to "change" his or her position on a issue seems to be sacreligious.
Political correctness also brought in emotions into politics. Worse yet, it brought in appeared emotions. Politicans cant make tough decisions anymore.

Great leaders are products of hard decisions. Nowdays politics are only giveaway festivals. The one who promises the most gets to play Santa Clause.
Probably does wonders for people with a bad conscience. Giving away other peoples money must be a treat.

Perhaps I am totally wrong in my assumptions and change is comming. Perhaps the delay is caused because mainstream is always lagging behind.

Then again I for one cant really understand when common sense went out of style. Perhaps it was abandoned when womens rights became mainstream. And no I am not trying to be insulting to any females.

We in Sweden are on the forefront when it comes to fake democracies. Our government has been taking care of people and handing out goodies for so long (high taxes prolongs the ponzi) that almost every citizen thinks this is how a perfect society is supposed to look like.
But even our foundations are cracking and when we fall it will be an epic awakening and reality check for many.
Untill then all we have is the hope that Ron Paul becomes president and changes the world!

Ha, but certainly all those people who criticized me for saying that a lawyer I know said this very same thing when I asked him during the Nevada issue(s) couldn't be wrong, right??

As I've said, party elections are completely different from general elections and as so are under very different rules/laws.

Any civil lawyers from Maine here?

I hope this is informative & PLEASE get this out to as many as possible. You have a right and duty to know what constitutes Election Fraud!!!

The Federal Crime of Election Fraud
Prepared by Craig C. Donsanto Public Integrity Section

The material that follows addresses the role of the United States Department of Justice in criminal matters that arise out of the balloting process, i.e. election fraud.»1
This paper seeks to answer the most frequently asked questions concerning the federal law enforcement role in election matters. Particularly, what sort of election-related conduct is potentially actionable as a federal crime, what specific statutory theories apply to «frauds» occurring in elections lacking federal candidates on the ballot, what federalism, procedural, and policy considerations impact on the federalization of this type of case, and how Assistant United States Attorneys (AUSAs) should respond to this type of complaint.
An effective federal role in prosecuting crimes against the electoral process is critical to the proper functioning of American democracy. The integrity of the voting process stands at the very heart of our system of representative government. Where elections are corrupted, arbitrary and corrupt government inevitably follow. Rooting out corruption in the election process, and bringing those responsible for it to swift and sure justice, is an important national law enforcement priority.
* What sort of activities are prosecutable as federal «voter fraud» crimes?
The federal concept of «voter fraud» applies only to activity that is appropriately remedied through criminal prosecution, as distinguished from other less severe remedies such as election contest litigation or administrative relief...

For the rest of the document :
http://soundpolitics.com/The%20Federal%20Crime%20of%20Electi...

DWade,

You were wrong to waste time inquiring about what is self-evident fact. Now you have self-corrected and that's a good start.

A caucus is run by the party. It's not news. There's NO election fraud because no law is broken. The GOP doesn't give a damn and doesn't correct for these problems BECAUSE so many people have no clue of self-evident facts like this.

To request that the State step in is to urge a dangerous precedent be set.

It comes down to all the Ron Paul supporters who now are active within the GOP. IF they want honest counting of their inhouse elections they've got to achieve it instead of expecting taxpayers to do so for them.

Either Ron Paul supporters will get busy and clean up the mess which is the party they have joined or they will opt out of the GOP.

The GOP is a den of thieves, and no one was forced to join. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. All of that applies.

They'll keep doing this until either the Ron Paul supporters clean the GOP stable or choose to leave. It's always been that simple.