Ron Paul on Leno 1/7?
Posted January 6th, 2008 by soulmantim
It shows that he will be on Leno on 1/7, is this a repeat or a second showing of Ron Paul? Who will be the musical guest?
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We need to go down to the
We need to go down to the Studio in Burbank and show support, but we should do it in a good way. We should provide food and beverage for the writers and prove that we are on their side.
I for one can not go, since i live across the country. I encourage everyone that is local to go and show support. If anyone thinks this a good idea and needs money for pay for food and beverage i would be willing to donate some money for the cause from my site.
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i live next door to a writer and he said no problem w ron paul..
...appearing on the tonight show. jay leno pays his own writers and so it's okay. this is from the mouth of a striking writer...who likes ron paul.
Dr. Paul never ceases to amaze me
Dr. Paul never ceases to amaze me. Look at Fox refusing to let him in the debates, hes getting more millage out of that then if they had allowed him on.
I believe Teflon Ron has a plan, and we need to have faith in him and trust his decision. Fox is shooting themselves in the foot, and Jay Leno is a perfect venue for him to expose them for being the propaganda Faux News channel that they are. I for one can't wait to see how he plays this.
Huckabee's mistake.
I think as long as Dr. Paul acknowledges on the show that he is crossing the picket line he could be okay. He's not going there to sell a movie. His appearance doesn't even involve writers. Late night talk shows do a public service by showing a candidate in a less serious forum. Bill Clinton did Arsenio and look what it got him. The mistake Huckabee made was being ignorant of the strike, not appearing on the show to inform people about his campaign.
I work in entertainment and
I work in entertainment and my girlfriend works in TV. We both have many friends in the union.
At first they had most peoples sympathy, but now they are just being jackasses. Here's 2 things not often talked about-
1. They were offered a deal which would have given them a good percentage of the demands and was to be re-evaluated after 1-2 years.
They turned it down. It's all or nothing.
2. HUGE amounts of people that have nothing to do with this strike have lost thier jobs and are really sufferring because of the writers bullheaded tactics.
Ask a cameraman, set designer, lighting technician, production co-ordinater, etc,etc how they feel about loosing a job for no reason but someone elses career advancement.
These people have families too and getting back to work is crucial for them. Writers aren't the only ones to be spoken for.
The fact is too that writers make a good income and can afford the time off. Most of the people who have lost jobs as a consequence don't have big salaries or savings. I've heard some horror stories about these poor people.
Where are the writers when these people lose thier cars or can't pay the rent.
I'm looking forward to Ron's visit. I'll be outside right next to the picket line hoping to meet him!
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES
Unions need to lighten up
I say the Union has a responsibility to resolve their crisis before 1-7-08 or else they need to accept that it's in their own best interests to allow a presidential candidate to cross the picket line in this special instance.
Ron Paul for Peace!
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Ron Paul CANNOT BE A SCAB! I know Union members who are considering voting for Ron Paul, and they are absolutely pissed off about Huckabee going to be on Leno during the strike. He crossed picket lines. This WILL cost Ron Paul votes, I can guarantee it.
If Ron Paul wants to say he stands for the middle class, for all working Americans... then he absolutely cannot cross a picket line. That is spitting in the face of hard working Americans who have a way to fight the big dogs who control them.
My father is a Union member, and he has been talking to his coworkers about Ron Paul. Some are pretty interested. But if this happens, all this support here that I've worked for will sink. There will be nothing that can make up for it if he crosses a picket line.
Media is starting to show how Leno and Huckabee are being viewed as scabs. Don't let Ron Paul fall into that category.
Unions need to lighten up
I say the Union has a responsibility to resolve their crisis before 1-7-08 or else they need to accept that it's in their own best interests to allow a presidential candidate to cross the picket line in this special instance.
Ron Paul for Peace!
I wonder
Ron Paul is a very intelligent human being. I am sure he knows about how he may be viewed if he crosses a picket line. Ron Paul is a champion of not only the constitution, but peaceful civil disobedience. If anything he will HELP the strikers for their rights, and may even bring up the subject to Jay. Paul has often referred to MLK jr., Gandhi, and Muhammad Ali in the power of civil disobedience.
He seems to have many tricks up his sleeve and probably has a good reason/rationale for doing this. Who knows maybe he's growing out a Letterman beard as a message of solidarity for the strikers or something.
If anything I would prefer Leno show the rerun. It truly was a magical night, a highlight of the campaign so far. Ron Paul/Bea Arthur/Sex Pistols, that was a great hour of television.
The Tonight Show on 10/30/07 didn't feature Bea Arthur!
You're probably thinking of Betty White, who was an unannounced walk-on. The guests were Tom Cruise, Ron Paul, and the Sex Pistols, appearing in that order. I was there.
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LOL oh yeah Tom Cruise I forgot!
Bea Arthur got a flinching game thing during that show though, it was funny
In response to myself...
I can't believe I forgot about "Maverick"
Disagree
The publicity just by being on the show will bring more people to the campaign than him crossing the picket line will turn away. It's worth losing a few voters in order to gain more voters. You have to look at the net effect.
Personally, I love when people cross picket lines. I have a lot of respect for that.
oh yeah?
So when a company is abusing its workers, they go on strike to fight for what's right, and scabs cross the picket lines.. you respect that?
That's like having respect for the abuses being done to us by our govt.
Crossing picket lines is just the same as citizens allowing one single right to be violated without a fight. You allow them to do it once, and they'll continue doing it. Should we all "cross the picket line" and allow govt to spy on us without us giving a crap? Look how pissed people get at those who think we should just allow the govt to spy on us. If you've got nothing to hide, then why worry? right?
Well, workers fighting to keep their pay from being decreased, health coverage from being taken awayy, hours being screwed with, are no different than what WE are doing here fighting for our rights. Do you have any respect for the GW appeasers who think it's cool to allow govt to trample your freedoms? Do you really like Hannity and people like him? Because THEY are the scabs in OUR game of freedom. Just how Huckabee and Leno are scabs in the working man's game.
Ron Paul's message is NOT about throwing some people under the bus, just to gain a few more supporters. You don't piss on current supporters. That's not what he is about. Quite frankly I would lose a lot of respect for him if he does this. I didn't like Huckabee in the first place, but this really made me lose a lot more respect for him as an individual.
I see no problem with crossing picket lines
I see no problem with crossing picket lines. If someone that decides that they want to work for the conditions that the company is offering shouldn't they be allowed to do it? In my opinion this is what the free market is all about.
What makes you think...
Ron Paul isn't going to go on that show to commend the strikers for protesting in a civil manner for rights and stick it to Jay?
Free market
I'm for the free market. If someone is willing to work for less money, that should be their right and strikers should respect that. Anything less is a socialist anti-market mentality. I'm a conservative, not a leftist.
And, I'm sure Paul would agree with me on this.
so....
If someone else is willing to be a 2nd class citizen, live without much of the rights we currently are afforded... does that mean you should just have to deal with losing all your rights.. while the others are left with half their rights?
That's basically what you are saying about striking union members. Remember, companies sign contracts with employees... should they be able to violate them, hire lower paid workers and the current workers just be s**t out of luck?
Do you support some powerful corporation just treating their workers like pieces of crap? Firing people for no reason, other than greed and lust for more money?
My fiance is a nurse, and her jos is in jeopardy. They keep hiring new nurses, then fire the nurse on that shift who is currently being paid the most. Then they start the new nurses off at a lower wage. You can bet that she wishes they had a union to fight for workers rights and injustice in the work place.
This is not about socialist, leftist. It's about the working man having a way to stand up against fascist corporations who think they can have so much power over a worker.. that they can break contracts and violate all agreements made. I can't violate contracts without suffering consequences... why should they be able to?
In the end it's not about working for less money, it's about contracts being violated. That's why unions end up striking. And without a union, I would have been fired from a job I use to have, for getting injured... something which was 100% their fault. Is that socialist? I hardly think so.
"Remember, companies sign
"Remember, companies sign contracts with employees... should they be able to violate them, hire lower paid workers and the current workers just be s**t out of luck?"
The point with the writer's strike is that the contract between them and the studios has expired. They're currently negotiating a new one, and Ron Paul should conform to his principles, taking neither side in the dispute. The media companies aren't "breaking contracts and violating all agreements made;" they're trying to agree to a different renumeration scheme which unions oppose - both are entitled to refuse to contract, as per Dr Paul's free-market ideology, unless both parties agree on terms.
"You can bet that she wishes they had a union to fight for workers rights and injustice in the work place."
There's no such thing as 'workers rights' or 'injustice in the work place.' Whilst Ron Paul ought to seek to expand the tent for his presidential campaign, the supporters of the Old Right and libertarians mustn't compromise on sound free-market principles to appease a populist desire for retribution against big Wall Street profits and private companies in favour of egalitarian redistribution. If you want to ban "the permanent replacement of strikers so unions can negotiate fairly" and think it's a problem to be remedied by government that the "top 300,000 individuals now make more than the bottom 150 million," maybe you should be supporting the populist-socialist candidate, John Edwards, rather than the free market Ron Paul.
"This is not about socialist, leftist. It's about the working man having a way to stand up against fascist corporations who think they can have so much power over a worker."
'Fascist' corporations are bad - they're the ones in hoc with the government, such as Halliburton with the present US administration or Krupp & Thyssen with the Nazi party. Private corporations - Microsoft, for instance - should be entitled to participate in whatever contract they wish to with any consenting partner. If this consenting partner is an individual willing to work for a lower amount than present employees, they should be entitled not to renew their contract with their current employees and hire the lower wage workers. Of course, for voluntary contract to be truly effective, we need to abolish the minimum wage at the earliest opportunity.
I totally agree
"Americans must have a right to work -and hire - as best suits their needs." -Ron Paul
dude...
im with you on thisone ...but I don't see the argument going anywhere...lets make it constructive...lets not say if we should cross or not....b/c trust me no one here is going to change their minds and it inst important to change each others minds if both vote for the same guy ( not yet...).....lets go out into the field and get the message out....
I'm not anti-union
Unions strike for various reasons.
I'm against unions not respecting the free market - not respecting the right of other individuals to work for lower wages or benefits if they're willing - the right to cross the picket line. I salute anyone who stands up against intimidation by unions and crosses the picket line with their head held high. I'm also against unions having special legal privileges like they do now. So, is Ron Paul. http://www.ronpaullibrary...
This is good
There is a lot of buzz going on, he's got a personal 1 hour forum running opposite Fox's to compete with their ratings, he's going to be on CNN that night. Then the next night he's on the Leno show (which Huckabee did in Iowa). If this isn't a repeat I would be interested to see what is going to happen. The last Leno show was simply perfect, it couldn't have gone better.
Dr. Paul on Leno vs
Huckster on Letterman let's ee who draws the biggest audience.This is not a rerun, probaly will be a taped interview from New Hampshire.
Letterman is a RP guy isn't he?
Maybe he'll do a hatchet job on him, throw a pencil at his head or something.
Its on ronpaul2008.com
It says on the 7th he will be on Jay Leno. I don't think they would put it on there if it was a repeat.
Repeat
I suspect this is a repeat and that he would not be flying all the way out to CA for a few hours there then coming back here for the other events. Not possible.
who pays
He might fly out there. I think the show pays for it.
And thanks to us, RP has been much more mobile by chartering his own very small jet. I hope he took the offer from the RP supporter.
makes sense
It would be better if he went on there Wendsday after a strong showing on Tuesday.
If it's another repeat of the Leno appearance, that seals it.
Jay is a closet Paulite, as we suspected.
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prob
One problem. Shouldn't he be in NH on the campaign trail? not in LA! or does it not matter at that point to be there that close to the election?
Ron was on Leno before...
Is this a second time or a repeat?
Does anyone have updated
Does anyone have updated info on this?
sweet!
That would rock if he can get on Leno! we can def use the positive coverage.
sounds good
I am not a fan of Leno but I think he should do it because he still needs to introduce himself to people. A lot people still haven't herd of him so this would prob be a good tool to use.