Are we REALLY republicans????

DAMIT! STOP ALL THIS SHIT ABOUT 3RD PARTY RUN.

WE HAVE 2 FREAKING MONTHS TO GET VOTES OUT. STOP YOU WHINING AND GET OFF YOU ASS.

GET INVOLVED IN YOUR PRECINCT. IF YOU CAN TURN OUT 50 VOTERS IN YOUR PRECINCT THEN RON PAUL CAN WIN. THAT IS ALL YOU EACH INDIVIDUALLY HAVE TO DO.

YOU 3RD PARTY RUN PEOPLE AND CRITICS ARE A PART OF THE PROBLEM AND NOT THE SOLUTION.

I HAVE UTTER CONTEMPT FOR YOU! YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF. IS THIS SITE ABOUT GETTING RON PAUL ELECTED OR A DIVERSION FOR A BUNCH OF BITCHERS..

“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat.”
Theodore Roosevelt quotes (American 26th US President (1901-09), 1858-1919)

A real republican is actually a libertarian.

“Whenever you have truth it must be given with love, or the message and the messenger will be rejected”~ Mahatma Gandhi

The Neo Cons are NOT Republicans. We need to fight and take the party back.

I think if Ron Paul does well but does not win the nomination we could still try a 3rd party run. MOST of our support has been gained in the last 2 months. Starting Nov 5th with the first big money bomb. We continue to grow every day. A 3rd party run would give us 2 big advantages:

1 - Another 11 MONTHS to gain support
2 - The general election we wouldn't need to worry about getting people registered as a Republican. I know in Iowa and NH that isn't as much of a problem because they allow independents to vote in either party. But many states DONT. In the general it won't matter what party you are in, you can vote for whoever you want.

If we do lose the general then a Democrat will probably become President. That will suck but it may be better in the long run because it will FORCE the Republican party to take us seriously. They won't be able to shove neo cons down our throats anymore.

The Republican party no longer stands for Republican Principles, it's now stands for Neo conservative Principles. A more militant version of the Democratic party.
So basically the Republican party might as well change its name to the Fascist party.

GOP for 20+ years. The party left me some years ago.....I'll return the favor by changing to the LIB party after this election.

May not win the presidency any time soon, but I know we can make some changes locally and on the state level. Lots of angry voters know they've been ripped off by the big 2.

...what about the TIME issue???? I thank all of you below whom have responded, but the repetative theme to most of your posts is that we have time after this election to make the changes we desire. Two years, four years, eight years.....? Do you REALLY believe we have that long?

Ron Paul himself says that he got into the race NOW because we are an empire in RAPID decline....the dollar is approaching the abyss, the economy resembles 1929, our political direction approaches socio-facism, our freedom of speech and privacy erodes daily.....How LONG can we hope to wait?

I would respectfully offer that the PRIMARY reason that many Americans do not support Ron Paul with their votes YET is because they believe that we can "make changes" in small, incremental amounts, as represented by Huckabee or Obama. "we have time...why RUSH to such a harsh/radical option as represented by Ron Paul?"

I suggest that history will show that THIS election IS the tipping point...the one where a choice WAS offered as to the ultimate direction for this country...before it was TOO LATE. Can we refuse to offer it to the ENTIRE country through the GENERAL election, third party or otherwise?

After all, whether it is Huck, Obama, or Hillary.....the result is the same, just the language to narrate the downfall is different.

If a candidate did not campaign, but such a large group campaigned for him, could he win? If Ron Paul did not get the nomination, and dropped out, could we campaign for him, entirely, and win him the general election? Could We the People win, over a Central Leader competitor? Could we win the election for Ron Paul without him ever making another speach or appearance?

If a candidate did not campaign, but such a large group campaigned for him, could he win? If Ron Paul did not get the nomination, and dropped out, could we campaign for him, entirely, and win him the general election? Could We the People win, over a Central Leader competitor?

The GOP has always been the "big-tent" party. It's a mix of economic conservatives, social conservatives, small-government advocates, military contractors, neo-conservative warmongers, theocrats, and yes, even small 'L' libertarians.

The problem is that starting with Reagan and the "Republican Revolution," the religious right has been wielding far more influence over the party than the small 'L' libertarians.

As for continuing the candidacy even if he doesn't get the nomination, well duh, of course he should, and he should run as an independent. As we saw in Iowa, we do very well among independent voters. Running on the Libertarian ticket would alienate many people--Democrats, Republicans, and indendents--who might otherwise vote for him.

We are the only ones who have new ideas in the Republican party. If these ideas are not brought to the forefront the the Republicans will not only lose in November but they will be decimated. Not only lose the White House but probably only be 1/3 of house and senate in the near future. If they run on continuing the war and ignoring the economy Obama/Edwards (I think they have joined forces now) are going to steam roll the Republicans in the fall. Dr. Paul is the only one that has the ideas to compete with them. The rest of the warmongers on stage tonight will get steamrolled in the general election.

What we have to ask ourselves is can we change the Republican party? If we can then we need to stay. If it appears that we can't then we need to go third party or independent and work on getting Dr. Paul on the ballot in as many states as possible and carry this fight forward. We are right on the issues and we must not stop at any cost. The future of our nation is at stake

i used to loathe any and all republicans ever since the bush era. i had no idea what they were supposed to stand for. now i know, and while i still feel completely dirty calling myself republican, thats how im registered. and so is my democrat g/f.

parties are one of the greatest shortcomings in american politics as far as im concerned.

We are from the Ron Paul wing of the Republican party. It's that simple. Third party run will go nowhere. Maybe we get 20 - 30% of the vote, but we can't win that way. Let's stick it out for the Republican nomination. We've got the money for the long haul.

Also, do we want to just leave the party or stay and try to fix it? My home state of Maryland has six "Ron Paul Republicans" on the ballot for November. We have eight districts, and in the six held by Dems, there is a RPR running. Let's face it - even if Ron Paul becomes President, he will need SUPPORT in the Congress. This should be a revolution at all levels. Even if Paul doesn't become President, let's get some more RPRs in Congress this year!

My father is a "republican" and by that I mean he votes based off the (r) next to a candidate's name or by what name he recognizes as long as there is an (r) next to their name.

I, however, have voted for people like Pat Buchanan, Alan Keys, and different (L) candidates, as well as a slew of (r) and even a couple (d) people. The point is, an educated vote should not be based of (x), but on the issue. Unfortunately, most of America is like my father. They are (x) voters. Change that, and I'll guarantee an RP win as an Independent/Libertarian. Until then, he has to be either (R) or (D) to have a chance.

You never effect change by leaving. never ever ever.
I think what Micheal Moore did to dummycrats. He pushed the party left by joining it. We need to do the same thing.
Take a deep breathe and listen.
The more liberal the republican party is the more likely some one like Paul can get ellected

Shh!

Time will reveal what became evident to me some time ago.

The Democrats and the Republicans are two puppets whose differences are only cosmetic.

Their strings are pulled by the same puppet masters.

Just follow the money, and you'll see the strings.

Shhh!

P.S. Dr. Paul Is the leader of the Third Force, which is long overdue. Time will reveal that too.

The old party was won over by a majority some years back and a new majority has arrived. We are the new republican party. We might be like the old party in some ways but we are different in what we expect from our nominee. We don't need any other party as we have declared this one as ours. We just haven't had the time to clean house as we have just moved in.

Asking that is like me asking if I'm really a Christian just because a majority of Christians in this nation have lost their way. I've always voted Republican, but I don't identify with where the party has gone in the last few years. I also don't identify with a lot of the U.S. Christian community, but I AM a Christian. In the same way, I AM a Republican because I am what a Republican is supposed to be. It's not a perfect analogy, but I think it works.

It really doesn't matter if Ron Paul is on the Republican ticket or not, I'm still voting for him. If he gets booted out, then he'll run independant or Libertarian. If he doesn't and just drops out completely, then I'll just write him in as President.

...if he did go third party he could quit spending money on these hopeless battles trying to get the GOP nomination and start focusing his efforts on just getting independents, libertarians, new young voters and those that just haven't voted for years on board.

In a three way split he should EASILY pull about 10% more votes than Ross Perot did back in 92, which would be about 30% right there. And remember Perot had done some kinda kooky things, he didn't even announce he would run until Feb 92, then in July said he was having second thoughts, then finally committed in October, just months before the election. He selected Admiral Stockdale as his running mate, now famous for the debate line, "Who am I? Why am I here?!" He ran those infomercials with the charts and pointer stick. He was made fun of relentlessly on Saturday Night Live. AND HE STILL GOT 19% OF THE VOTE.

I say, if we have any say, Dr Paul should take the upcoming defeat in NH and use it to reexamine his campaign and go 3rd party.

Anybody agree with me?
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"It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." William Randolph Inge

SuperTuesday will be better. We are the only campaign that has enough money to get through. Huck has some, of course Romney has plenty, but the rest are broke. If Dr. Paul gets 5th it will be good enough in NH. Patience, hard work and innovation will see us through. Trust in Paul, and keep your powder dry. ( Although I to will be switching political parties after Texas primary, if Dr. Paul is not the Rep. nominee. In fact I am seriously thinking of moving out of the country. What has happened to my country?).

It's just the name of a party. So, you can be of any philosophy and still be a Republican, even a liberal. I consider myself an ultraconservative Republican.

Sounds religeous right?? Paulites.... but come one folks, we are of all faiths and politicial parties here....
We all want to restore the USA.... lets not start with the labeling thingy again...

Raised by Barry Goldwater Republicans.

"Victory for liberty! That is our goal, and nothing less. -- Ron Paul, December 17, 2007"

Of course, many people in the party are NOT following the above line.
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"You don't spread FREEDOM at the barrel of a gun." - Ron Paul

We are the real republicans. We believe in smaller government - a republican ideal since the days of Taft. We believe in balanced budgets and lower taxes and free markets. We believe in sound economic and monetary policy. We believe in a truly conservative foreign policy that keeps us out of entangling alliances and foreign wars. What could possibly be more Republican than that?

The "modern" Republican Party didn't become beholden to the will of the Christian right until the 80's. They didn't preach preemptive war until the last 6 or 8 years. The Republicans took power of the house and senate in the 90's not by promising to fund the Medicare Prescription Drug Plan - they took power by promising to spend less and cut the size of Government, just to turn around and do the exact opposite.

We aren't the ones who should be questioning which party we belong in. It's the RINO's (Republicans in Name Only) that should be doing that.

I'll vote, buy a little gold, some silver and a lot of ammunition...and head for the cabin to regroup for the inevitable.

Pathetic.... A rupublican since '80 and I am completely discusted by the smirky, belittling attitude of all of them. I will be registering in the Constitutional Party after my Primary in Texas. I am sickened, absolutely sickened...

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I, too, will never again register GOP.

After twenty years it comes down to this years convention. If Ron Paul is nominated I will continue. If he is not I will no longer associate myself with the GOP.

Hold them to their oath:
President
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

third party run is a suicidal waste of money and will only guarantee Hillary or Barack wins. There is no room for a third party in todays political climate unless you have at least 300 mil dollars to burn. I agree he needs at least 3rd to continue to be a factor.
One of the most important things to remember is the importance of exposure of Dr Paul's ideas. Politics is a patient man's business and we need to be ready as a movement to keep pushing our message WITHIN the Republican party until like with Reagan we have a majority. This may happen now, in 4 years or in 16 like with Goldwater/Reagan.
I think it is awesome we have at least a block of people in this country now willing to discuss monetary policy and war and their connections. These two "planks" need to be the center of our movement that continues until we win or get them inserted into the Republican party planks.
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