Charts for Tonight!

Our first solar panels will be used in a solar power station in Germany," said Erik Oldekop, Nanosolar's manager in Switzerland. "We aim to produce the panels for 99 cents [50p] a watt, which is comparable to the price of electricity generated from coal. We cannot disclose our exact figures yet as we are a private company but we can bring it down to that level. That is the vision we are aiming at."

He added that the first panels the company was producing were aimed for large- scale power plants rather than for homeowners, and that the cost benefits would be in the speed that the technology could be deployed. "We are aiming to make solar power stations up to 10MW in size. They can be up and running in six to nine months compared to 10 years or more for coal-powered stations and 15 years for nuclear plants. Solar can be deployed very quickly," said Oldekop.

The third wave of PV, now being developed by firms such as Nanosolar, can print directly on to other materials and does not use silicon.

who lives in New Mexico, and he's developed a solar station that grows algea in a series of thermal panels that really looked promising.....no kidding. The guy was smart, and knew what he was talking about. The ultra high density algea fluid was potent enough to be combustible ( I think that was the story )......but his final summation was that if his system was implemented on 1/10 of the land of New Mexico (which is a lot of land, no doubt) it would produce all the liquid fuel to run our transportation needs. Now that's ingenuity, with no corporate sponsership, or government money. Wouldn't it be nice if our Gov't focused on solving ONE problem at a time.....pretty soon we might run out of reasons to go to war.

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Good luck. RP forever.

Charts remind me of Ross Perot and all he got was 17%. I want to win, not bore people with charts. If he came out with charts the MSM will do a Dean and Perot on him. Please Dr Paul, no charts!

The point is that most people don't "get" economics. You start talking about the fed, fiat currency, etc.and their eyes glaze over and they switch the channel to the All-Brittany Channel (faux news). Like someone said in this thread already "a picture is worth a thousand words". Since Dr. Paul isn't getting the chance to say a thousand words (or even 100 in most cases) He HAS to get his points across and charts will do this.

While this particular chart seems to have some people up in arms because they don't want to spend the money on energy research either, the principle is the same. How about a chart of GDP vs. debt, value of the dollar over time, cost of basic items like bread milk and gas in dollars vs. gold over time. We have to wake up Americans and charts have the shock value to get people to listen to what Dr. Paul is saying. As far as ridiculing him - they are already doing that! Have you seen the debates? Not only are the other candidates smirking and giggling, but the MSM makes sure they get all of their reactions on camera. We have to break through the B.S. If you want to see a good example of some effective charts, try these. http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Charts, yes.

Pouring taxpayer money down a rathole of special interest tapeworm psuedoscience parasites, NO!

All this talk of electricity costs making solar viable -- what do you think solar cells are made of? Sand and ENERGY. They make sense where they make sense, and nowhere else.

Anybody that wants alternative energy, go out and invent it, you'll be the richest man in the world. As for me, keep the taxman's gun out of my belly, please!

Please educate yourselves before advocating this stuff.

This is great. Can I use it?

The real value of the dollar/ How much we are borrowing a day from foreign countries/ When Dr. Paul said the gold and oil compared against the dollar.

I personally have converted many people using this graph,,,,when you find something that works USE it

All the bars on this graph should be at $0, there's little point in comparing them.

He should have charts. A chart of the national debt, etc. However, a chart showing the expense of Iraq vs how much money the government spends on energy research would not be included since Dr Paul (nor myself) believes the government should be involved with spending tax dollars to research alternative energy. The Free market should make that determination. Just think of the waste that has come from corn based ethanol research

The charts worked for Perot because he was the first one to do something like that in a big way. People loved it because he was speaking to them in a way they could understand, and he seemed to know what he was talking about. But now, Perot and his charts elicit chuckles. If Ron Paul did this, he would *immediately* be compared to Perot, and the chuckles would follow.

If you think the other candidates were crass in the ABC debates, just wait until they have pictures of Ron Paul and His Silly Graphs to point and laugh at for the cameras. Congressmen use graphs on the House floor all the time; it's a great technique, but that doesn't matter. What matters is that Paul would become the butt of jokes.

He can make the same points by just reciting the facts. Anyway, charts are not his style.

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The opposite of freedom is slavery; if I am 99% free, then I am part slave, which is like being "a little bit pregnant." Freedom versus slavery is a zero-sum game.

Conventional electrical costs are raising to be at the level of solar very soon. Solar power is experinecing rapid gains in technology, it is becoming cheaper and more productive. I saw a comparison in late 2005 I think, that showed the money spent on the war at that time would be enough to put one half of all residences in the us on wind power. Imagine, your electric bill cut in half ! By now it would be enough for 3/4 of all houses I would guess. Not that Ron Paul would use the government to build wind power, but we could do it ourselves if not for all the war spending.

thought that was backward considering current technology and regulation? Oh well, Go Ron Paul!

That chart seems a bit off about the solar figure. It is way expensive to try powering your house using solar power.

Ron Paul should have started using charts and numbers to explain his positions a long time ago. I think he would have converted many more by now.

...at least very few charts. IMO, Dr. Paul just needs to talk to the people and explain his policies without getting overly mired in economics. He doesn't need the comparisons to Ross Perot at this point, and he has powerful major platform points that differentiate him from all of the other candidates in both parties and inspire confidence!

Namely: government for/by the people, obeying the constitution, reversing the damaging policies of the Bush administration, shrinking the Federal government/spending, humble foreign policy, ending the War, increasing military use for defense instead of nation-building, and most importantly, taking steps towards preparing for and mitigating the impending economic crisis.

He can communicate with the people as our president and explain where we are and the bright future we can have with a return to our American roots.

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Holy CR@P! Has anyone figured if you took that same amount of money and bought solar cells how many Kilowatts the government could produce for free?

This is a great idea. I even like the scale. Dr. Paul could throw it off the end of the podium and let it unrole. Don't forget one showing what has happened to inflation since 1913. Prior to 1913 there was no inflation, except for the war of 1812 and the civil war. Even then prices went back to normal.

How about one relating the price of gold to oil and dollars to the price of oil like he mentioned during the ABC debate.

A picture is worth a thousand words. Can some of you guys close to the campaign make this happen.

Liberty & prosperity at home and peace abroad.

But seriously I don't know what it will take to get people to understand the economy, I remember Ross Perot had tons of charts and that gave the other candidates (and SNL) a chance to ridicule him. I think his explanation of inflation and costs that he presented to Blitzwhore earlier CAN be understood if RP would just have a chance to speak on ONE subject for a few minutes. Maybe the Town Hall tonite will give him the opportunity, hopefully questions from those present tonite will be more POLITE (as Ron is) than the "old media" commentators.

Off topic: Has anyone experimented with using spray foam insulation to do LARGE outdoor lettering?

Change the scale or something. A Good chart would be a 4:3 ratio on poster board. Another good chart would be the all time CPI chart. I've got one here, I've seen it on YouTube too ... runs pretty flat from 1787 to 1913, then it starts climbing, in 1933 the growth starts to accelerate, then accelerates again in the 1970's. It's pretty alarming to see virtual zero inflation for over 1000 years, then after they create the Fed, it takes off like a rocket.

I think another chart would be causes of death for Americans and their numbers and then compare that both to deaths by terrorism to illustrate the fact that we are spending billions on a war while thousands upon thousands die every year as a result of diseases.

The CDC statistics show that 8 out of 10 of the top causes of death in this country are from diseases, with the other two being car accidents and accidents around the home. The number one cause of death is heart disease (about 1 million people a year). Terrorism on the other hand doesn't even register.

Another good chart would be to compare our infant mortality, life expectancy, debt, and education rates with other developed nations (a report was done not too long ago, and the US really didn't do so well). That would drive the point home that this ridiculous war is draining essential resources from our country.

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Here is a December, 2007, article by Karen DeYoung at the Washington Post, regarding how our presence in Iraq affects the violence there.

http://www.washingtonpost...

"Iraqis of all sectarian and ethnic groups believe that the U.S. military invasion is the primary root of the violent differences among them, and see the departure of "occupying forces" as the key to national reconciliation, according to focus groups conducted for the U.S. military last month."

Ron was right!

wow. frightening. (i also thought of the al gore example, which was very effective)

I'd change the y-axis to a log scale.

I am picturing AlGore's movie ... the global warming one ... Did ya see it?
Anyhow, the supposed big moment in the movie was when Big Al got on a cherry picker to show a chart very similar to the one you have here ...
Man that would make some good television, wouldnt it? :)

FEDERAL RESERVE BANK so far earned on the Iraq war.
Please anyone who is good with charts and numbers should show that to the HQ before airtime tonight.