Ron Paul Highlights 1/5/2007 ABC Debate
Posted January 6th, 2008 by Michael Nystrom
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Here's my favorite Highlight
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wow
i didnt get a chance to watch this debate so im sure that a lot of other things were said by the other candidates, but every time RP spoke he hit the nail on the head. I loved how when that last question was asked everyone was afraid to answer and RP's hand shot right up
only paul should be the president
only ron paul is smart, the others are just paid shills
This revolution is worldwide. If America fails, God help us all
ABC News tries to ignore Paul
Did I see things right? ABC talked with people embedded with each camp to get their spin on their candidates performance after the debate. Someone with the Guiliani camp, McCain camp, Thompson camp, Huckabee camp, and Romney camp. Except they skipped one solitary candidate. Then they went to see what the reaction was at Facebook. I jumped on my computer and facebook was all about Ron Paul of course. They was voted the most presidential and the majority of the comments were about him. They didn't mention his name.
Then they talked about how Huckabee said he had a lot of similarities with Obama. I thought it was Paul that had said that. So I watched that section again tonight on CNN. It was Paul. Huckabee said nothing of the sort.
Then facebook listed questions regarding "What was the biggest surprise of the night?" There were five options to choose from. There was a question related to each candidate except one. Our man Ron Paul. What is going on here?
Telling Truth is Revolutionary
Orwell was right; in a world of universal deceit, the person speaking the truth, is reviled and mocked.
Nowhere was this more clear than when they were talking about the nature of terrorism. Are we supposed to believe that Osama woke up one day and said "I am going to spend my fortune and risk my life attacking America because it's the most powerful nation on Earth and I disagree with their system of democracy". This is preposterous. Now, if we reduced our interference in the middle east, could terrrorists still justify war against us? Possibly. But as Paul pointed out, we should not be taking actions that give the radical wing of Islam ample material to recruit people against us. Seeing Romney laughingly contradict Paul with the assertion that terrorists are attacking us "because we're the most powerful nation" send a shiver down my spine; if this is the level of discourse we're willing to have on terrorism, we are in deep trouble because our actions will beget retribution, and a cycle of violence will be harder to stem. At that point Guiliani mentions a number of historical incidents which attempt to portray all Muslim violence as monolithic and distorting the reality of the situation we face.
Whether we finish 3rd in NH or not, we have to stay in this debate, if nothing else, to at least put a rationale worldview on the table for people to hear.
Disgusts me ...
It just disgusts me when people cannot take a food, fair, honest look at what this man says and NOT come to the same conclusions. I watched the whole interview and their constant belittling of Dr. Paul only means that they are scared of him and scared of his ideas being the Jenie getting out of the bottle.
Why in God's name would anybody up on that stage, who give "lip service" to the Constitution and its precepts turn a completely blind eye to the blatant unconstitutional Federal Reserve Act of 1913 after it has been explained ad nausem during this campaign? Because they're empty shells who want to be president for the sake of having the power, not because they want to help Americans. Getting us back on sound economic debt-free money would be one of THE best things that could be done for ALL americans. Yet, they sit there and mock him like he's some sort of crack junkie.
It absolutely disgusts me.
Thanks vapatriot
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
-- Mahatma Gandhi
Good reading on what they are doing to our money
MARKET INTERVENTION ACCELERATING, Stunning Data Releases show Risks, Consequences, and The Cartel End Game
http://news.goldseek.com/...
making sense
ron paul was amazing. last month my manager said ron paul is a flake. this morning he was saying ron paul is the only candidate that made sense during the debate.
I saw Huckabee looking at Dr. Paul during one of the earlier deb
I saw Huckabee looking at Dr. Paul during one of the earlier debates. I think Huckabee is trying to morph himself into Dr. Paul for a time.
Printing the Money
I was just wondering if anyone had a good website that gives some hard proof of the government's printing of the money to come up with the shortfall for all the borrowing. My parents "don't believe" Ron Paul when he says we cause all the inflation. They claim the price of oil is due to growing demand in China and India, not the collapse of the dollar. I don't suspect Dr. Paul is lying and I just need a simple chart of something to prove it to them. Any suggestions?
You and your parents are both correct...
... as it pertains to the price of oil. The increased global demand and consumption by these countries is playing a significant role in driving up oil prices. The escalation of these factors combined with oils increasing scarcity will only increase prices and the price nations ( war) are willing to pay to get it.
Inflation and the fact that "petro Dollars" are rapidly becoming "petro Euros" is as mentioned here, the other significant component.
Jim Kuntslers, "The Long Emergency" is a must read on the subject if you haven't done so already.
Start from here
Start from here:
http://mwhodges.home.att....
http://mwhodges.home.att....
After reading above, you should watch these DVD's to really understand what's going on:
The Money Masters.
Money as Debt.
You can buy them from here.
http://www.themoneymaster...
You can also watch them on-line. Google them. However, the on-line version of The Money Masters is slightly different from the DVD version. I like the DVD version better.
After watching the DVD's, you should have one question that relates to Ron Paul. Then, ask me.
FYI: Reality Zone
If you have time, explore here as well.
http://www.realityzone.co...
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
The Federal Reserve Bank is neither Federal nor does it have any Reserves. It is privately owned and has no gold, only paper. I think this site: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/... "Secrets of the Federal Reserve" does a great job of explaining what happened to the United States when it went to the Federal Reserve system. This was not in your parent's history books, in fact this book has been banned in the past. One quote "Thus a central bank attains its commanding position from its government granted monopoly of the note issue. This is the key to its power. Also, the act of establishing a central bank has a direct inflationary impact because of the fractional reserve system, which allows the creation of book-entry loans and thereby, money, a number of times the actual "money" which the bank has in its deposits or reserves."
government doesn't print money
The government doesn't print the money. The federal reserve does. The government has very little to do with the money system in the United States. The Federal Reserve consists of a cartel of private banks that loan the government money at interest. The federal income tax pays most of that interest. The bankers are in total control, not the government.
http://video.google.com/v...
If you want to learn more of the history of how they came to power.
printing money
Whatever, yes the Fed Bank is private and prints our money, but to separate the Fed Bank and the Federal Government at this point is somewhat meaningless. The fundamental point is that any amount of money the Feds want to print is printed (or actually created digitally now, the amount of paper money issued is a small fraction of the money in circulation). Hence, the value of the dollar is constantly debased and is not backed up by anything other than our faith, as is all fiat money.
One can also look at the relationship between the Banks, large financial organizations, large corporations and the Federal Government as a sort of Mussolini-type Fascist Business Model. They really are one and the same, it's just that the capitalists are allowed to operate the business side. In the Communist/Socialist/Marxist model, the state takes over the businesses and runs them into the ground. Same sort of control, but capitalists just run business better.
Show them the money supply statistics.
Show them the money supply statistics. Show them charts of the DXY Index. Show them any forex website that shows historical price charts. Show them a historical comparison of DXY and Oil and Gold.
Yes, lots of places
There are a variety of statistics that show money supply on a monthly basis, M2 and M3 they are called. Then there's all the talk of liquidity in which the Federal Reserve makes more cash available to banks at their discount window and other mechanism. Basically, the Fed Bank is now purchasing all that bad sub-slime mortgage crap and giving the banks new dollars for it. It's known as monetizing the debt. It's really socialism for the banks and monetizing the debt is just a way to make the public pay for their speculation.
I highly recommend the following websites which publish loads of columns on all these issues, including graphs of money supply and such.
http://www.safehaven.com
http://www.321gold.com
Also, the author and stock broker Peter Schiff in his book Crashproof outlines all of this quite clearly and easy to read. His brokerage website, http://www.europac.net offers his columns, video interviews and archived radio shows where he addresses the dollar and world economic issues. He is also a HUGE Ron Paul supporter.
follow up
Also interesting is that Schiff's father is now in Federal Prison in New Jersey for refusing to pay Federal income taxes. There's stuff on the internet about this.
Rudy....the Munich Olympics!!???
Rudy's remark about the Munich Olypics is totally without basis.....
A few Palistinians, from the Palistinian Liberation Organization, took as hostages Israeli athletes........ Totally OFF point from the discussion of why terrorist attack the USA..... If anything, bringing up this, shows that when even ISRAEL occupies a people, they get attacked -- Proving Dr. Paul's point.
Rudy, the more I listen to you the LESS you know. You bungle history so bad, its shameful in a Presidential Candidate. There OUGHT to be a Presidential History EXAM to weed out Fringe Candidates like Rudy.
Treg
Rudy's answer proved Ron's point
Ron asked why the Islamofascists haven't attacked Canada. In other words, why are they attacking us. That dipsh*t for brains Giuliani brought up the London bombing, as if to say, see Ron, they are attacking other countries. Excuse me, Rudy, but didn't England have the 2nd largest number of troops in Iraq? You just proved Ron's point you mental midget.
Rudy's Response
Rudy's response to this post:
"911, Nine One One, Fear, Islamo Terrosists, 911, Word Trade Center, 911 and Fear the ISLamos, and did I mention Nine One One"
did bad?
Some people are saying he did bad in this debate. WHAT?? If you listen to what he is saying, compared to all the other buffoons, he blew them away! His answers are the ONLY one's that make any sense. Plus the laughing and scoffing by the others certainly didn't help their cause in my book either.
I'd like to personally
I'd like to personally congratulate the Democrats on a huge win. *sigh* Aside from Dr. Paul, these guys looked like a bunch of warmongering, propaganda pushing, out of touch with middle America politicians. How can they not see it? How do they think they can possible win?
I love our country, I really do. However, I'm thankful I have an exit strategy out of this place if things go horribly wrong. Could you just imagine if someone like Guillani or McCain got into the WhiteHouse? Okay, I'm just ranting.. but it's simply sickening.
Great Performance!
Great performance! The statesman shines! The sophomoric elitists cackle and scoff! Both did great for our cause!
bump
the other candidates have no souls..they couldn't..
I Wish the Whole American Population could see these videos...
Instead of having to wade through all the BS that was thrown up around them.... it was hard to stay focused on this debate because of all the RHETORIC involved between the candidates...
Some people have said Dr. Paul did not do good last night, or should have been more forceful, etc. etc. etc. Well I think he did SUPER and did not stoop to the childish level of the other candidates. McCain looked horrible last night and I hope this reflects in his poll numbers...
Ghouliani looked PETULANT as usual, Romney was OVERBEARING AND TIME DOMINATING as usual... Huckabee was down right PANDERING and didnt answer his questions...
Thompson was asleep Hello.... (whats for dinner Thompson, hhmmm will I have sex tonight?? Huh, what?? me??)
People need to understand that the good doctor was totally attacked last night on the issue of Iraq and all the other candidates had their little pre-prepared tid-bits to attack him pre-planned and he was SMART enough to back off on a war he couldnt win - it was very good and intelligent to not stoop to the others levels...
It was a good night contrary to what other people think... GO RON GO
backing off
I agree, that it would be utterly wrong to start defending the Islamic terrorist/radical/fundamentalist/extremist/fashist enemy, which is what the other candidates tried to lure him into.
OTOH there are plenty of side blows possible, if you study their arguments. I.e. Romney's brave "empowering Muslims so they can reject the extreme" speech should have been brought back to the reality of an occupied Iraq.
Later on after Guiliani listed all those other terror attacks (btw. most of them targeting the so called "coalition of the willing"). Dr Paul said "you are painting all Muslims the same way". And he is right on that. See:
Giuliani Surrogate Calls Muslims 'madmen'
Pat Robertson endorses Guiliani
"We will never outlast insurgents in their own homeland, will we?"
(Bill Maher)
Ron Paul is the man
Can you imagine grown men acting like that? I hope they watch the debate and feel ashamed at their behavior.
Laughing
What bothered me in this debate (and other previous debates) is when other candidates can be heard laughing at Dr Paul, when he discusses foreign policy. There is absolutely nothing funny about 3900 fallen US soldiers and many times more dead Iraqis incl. woman and children. IMHO he should stand up against such disrespectful behavior.
Perhaps Dr. Paul should have said, during the ABC debate
Perhaps Dr. Paul should have said, during the ABC debate: “Ms. Bhutto’s assassination has not yet been determined to be a lone act of terrorism, and Musharraf's government may be implicated.”
opps double post
opps double post
i agree all the other
i agree all the other canidates except maybe fred thompson were snickering at ron paul every time he spoke. I wonder what they would say if he asked them what they thought was so funny about our troops dying in iraq and a sensible foreign policy.
Please tell Dr Paul
Anyone who has a chance to talk to Dr Paul - please tell him to do so.
There is nothing funny here. Inappropriate behavior should be exposed and rejected.
Sorry for asking this. I do
Sorry for asking this. I do not know nor have the facilities to "grab" the video parts of the debate. Can you pull just the part where the mediator goes through everyones "flip-flopping" and says to Dr. Paul, "I could not find any dirt on you". Can anyone pull just that clip and post it to youtube? I would like to email that to all my GOP friends.
Regards,
Lupester
I love it...
... when Dr Paul speaks Monetary Policy because not one of the other candidates understand it enough to try to fight it... and anyone that does understand it at all... can't fight it because he IS RIGHT! You Gotta Love It.
Joe
On the whole I felt McCain
On the whole I felt McCain was the most disrespectful of all of them.
I agree, but he's GOT to differentiate himself in NH
I agree with you, brianb, but know the "politics" of this. He has GOT to have a good showing in NH. He know who his biggest threat is-- RON!
So therefore he has to do everything he can to differentiate and separate himself from Ron, lest he look like "Ron-Lite." Otherwise, he's done for!
The other candidates just sit there, looking stupid...
If you can't see the difference between Ron Paul and the other candidates, you are brain dead.
For God and Country!
Damn Good Video Extracts
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Thanks for this effort. RON PAUL is the most intelligent, well intentioned person sitting there on that stage // it wasn't necessary to hear the others, their faces and general body language did their talking for them.
My God, if RON PAUL doesn't get elected -- any one of those others assuming the office will be our downfall as a great nation. GWB (and his crew and his dad and Clinton) have done their best to see that we started in this direction of complete and utter failure // If RON PAUL does not assume the role as our next President, then we are doomed.
I say these things not to depress anyone -- I say these things because the TRUTH is the TRUTH.
Vote RON PAUL 2008 // Help the American People take back our country from the gangsters that would smile at us as they pushed the button on our total destruction as a country.
Who else (in history) would have liked (loved) to have seen the demise of the USA? I can think of one, especially one -- the similarities are abundant.
HUCKABEE!!!!
I am terified if Huckabee gets in, you want to talk about medeling! Richard Haas is his the head advisor of his Forign Policy! YIKES!! Mr. Haas for those who do not know is the head of the CFR! Talk about major Globalization Agenda's.
Ron Paul is OUR "Boston Teal Party"
We are doomed, not
If RON PAUL does not assume the role as our next President, then we are doomed.
As nations go, USA is a mere kid -- a young nation many centuries away from its eventual "doom." Our golden age is still ahead of us. Further, we Americans are a unique breed of humans on Earth, the genetic cream of the crop among homo sapiens -- we are the offspring of pioneers and explorers, the courageous men and women who took off from their old countries into the unknown to create a land of the free, the land of 'milk and honey' for themselves and their children.
Ron Paul is merely expressing who we are more clearly than most politicians. But the spirit of liberty and courage which inspires him and speaks through him will be alive and well no matter how this election turns out or what happens to him. It is in our blood, it is us, Americans.
HATE TO BE A PESSAMIST!
I hate to be so pessamistic but, if Ron Paul doesn't get in that's prety much proof that us bunch of unique cream of the crop people here in the US are very dumb! (At least most of the mAsses) A.D.D. , A bunch of Lemmings! Sure I'll follow you right off the cliff!
GO RON PAUL,...WHAT A GIANT AMONGST MERE MORTAL MEN!
Ron Paul is OUR "Boston Teal Party"
I love the oil question!
None of the other candidates wanted to answer. They were all afraid. They didn't know how to answer or what to say. Ron Paul's answer was perfect. Talk about a high fastball up around the letters! Good-bye, that's outa here!
Kudos also to Charlie Gibson for having the brains to ask it.
Yep, he nailed that one
Makes perfect sense.