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Heed my words - KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SHUT! - your fingers too!

Originally published 2012-03-02 18:39:24 -0400. ]

I felt it is important to share some things with everyone. For those that like to check how long someone has been on the DP, my real account is 4 years, 3 weeks.

I am using this account I just created to convey some important information and I will probably use it often over the next several months as needed.

I am using the account to keep some information from our opposition. I am well known to the GOP in my state and want to keep my identity a secret to prevent giving certain factions a "heads up".

In my state there is a concerted effort against Ron Paul. You will probably respond to that by saying something like, "Yeah, tell me something I don't know."

The organizers of the county caucus I am in already have plans in place to try to prevent Ron Paul from having a fair process. Again, what else is new?

If Ron Paul supporters "win the day" they already plan on filing challenges to have the entire county delegation disqualified.

As part of the organizers strategy they have booked a room that is far too small to accommodate the numbers likely to turn out to caucus, even though larger rooms in the same place are available. They are telling their supporters to get there before the doors open so they can get into the caucus.

This information, as well as other information about their plans, I will not discuss here. I obtained my information because of my use of spies.

Anyone who has read Art of War knows there are 5 types of spies. I use all 5 types. So does the opposition. I do my best to guard against them and heed Sun Tzu's advice in how to use them.

Often I find that it is not spies that provide me information. It is the opposition themselves who make their plans against Ron Paul public and known. Good for me and bad for them.

But the opposition also benefits from the public discussion of our strategy and troop strength.

Too often I see, due to people's exuberance for our cause, excitement over some new strategy broadcast for the world to see. People talk about what they plan to do next week or how they think they can get a leg up on the opposition. Do you really think that Ron Paul supporters are the only ones reading the DailyPaul? Of course you don't.

Please, for the love of liberty and the cause of victory, STOP! Stop talking about your local plans. Stop broadcasting you are coming so the opposition can prepare for you.

I had one of the biggest successes in my state four years ago. I delivered a HUGE victory for Ron Paul. The GOP pulled out every thing they had to try to negate that victory.

The ONLY reason we had the victory was we kept our preparations a secret. We planned, we trained, we practiced, all in SECRET. Word about our plans and preparations got out a few days before our caucus/convention because of a post by one of our number on an online forum. The opposition tried to rally their people, but with such short notice they were unable to do so. If the leak had occurred a week or two sooner we would have lost and all of our preparations and work would have been useless.

This time around the opposition expects us. They have had time to prepare for us. They do not know our numbers or plans and I intend to keep it that way. Make no mistake, we WILL prevail. That is as long as no one with the knowledge of our plans lets the opposition know.

Again, the main reason I created this thread and the new account is to urge everyone here to work with their local people, and KEEP YOUR MOUTHS SHUT!

By all means, report on the opposition and their dirty tricks. When you do, make sure what you report here on DP cannot be used to thwart your own goals by tipping them off that you know their plans. And PLEASE keep your own plans out of the public view.

I selected this profile name for a reason. I will leave you with some words of advice from Sun Tzu to add to my own.

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All warfare is based on deception.

Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.

What enables the wise sovereign and the good general to strike and conquer, and achieve things beyond the reach of ordinary men, is FOREKNOWLEDGE.

That is, knowledge of the enemy's dispositions, and what he means to do.

Now this foreknowledge cannot be elicited from spirits; it cannot be obtained inductively from experience, nor by any deductive calculation.

Knowledge of the enemy's dispositions can only be obtained from other men.

Hence the use of spies...

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Okay, so I posted this 3 weeks ago. When I hit save things acted weird and I was sure I lost the post and due to other things that were more pressing I did not attempt to rewrite it.

So I can now tell you some things, but not everything because we are still engaged in battle and stealth is more important than ever.

Our intelligence was spot on and because of our foreknowledge, we were completely and undeniably able to thwart their plans. We knew of moles within our ranks and we used them to great effect. But it was the moles in their ranks working for us that were of the greatest benefit. Right now our opposition is looking over their shoulder and they do not know who to trust. They are even suspicious of each other.

We have now tightened our security and have limited the high level strategy to a handful of people that are above reproach. This is not being done to create a top down environment or exclude other loyal supporters. It is done strictly for information security because people like to share things with each other, especially "inside" information.

I don't blame them at all, I understand it. And because I do understand it, I am helping us all by not letting them know certain things.

I have some hardcore battle hardened soldiers on my team and we will have a massive victory very soon.

My point to all of you is to give you advice based on my successful efforts.

Plan hard. Be serious. Yes this is all fun, but it is serious business and if we take our preparations seriously we WILL win.

More important than spies and planning and strategy is ONE SIMPLE THING.

HAVE MORE PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR RON PAUL THAN THE OPPOSITION HAS SHOW UP AGAINST RON PAUL.

This is one time that having superior planning and strategy means nothing if you do not have the numbers come caucus/convention day. We MUST have 51% or more at every caucus/convention.

Many places received devastating losses for the simple reason they did not have their people show up on the day they were needed. This has to be EVERYONE'S number one priority. Just as is the case where I am, there are people making plans for Ron Paul to win where you are and they are mostly doing a good job at making those plans. It is then up to the rest of us to get butts in seats. Not just your own, but everyone you can drag with you.

If we really want Ron Paul to win, there is nothing more important to make sure we achieve that goal that turnout. It is time to light the brush fires of freedom that we keep talking about. Now is not the time to rest. Let the opposition rest while we QUIETLY amass our armies for the final push to victory. Every one of us needs to PERSONALLY find 30 people to attend their caucus/convention and make sure they show up. If we all do that, we win.

What are you willing to do for Ron Paul?

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Bumpity

victorious warriors

"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
- Sun Tzu
http://quotationsbook.com/quotes/author/8584/

"When the enemy has made a plan of attack against us, we must anticipate him by delivering our own attack first."
- Ho Shih

The rule is, not to besiege walled cities if it can possibly be avoided.

- The Art of War. Adams Media. Kindle Edition.

I argue that the GOP is a "walled city" and should be dropped like a stone. Now is the moment America can throw off the slave-chains of the two party monopoly and their media lapdogshills. I hereby propose a new third party: The new Liberty Party.

Lets keep this up!

Bump!

NONE BUT PAUL!

"hey, I know that dude"

-Spicoli / Fast Times at Ridgmont High-

For Freedom!
The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

I love you mystery man...

I've spent alot of time on Sun Tzu. Godspeed fellow tactician.

Loose Lips

Loose lips and flying finger tips sink ships. True in WWII and true now. Remain so in perpetuity.

Just watched this:

Secret War - The Master of Deceit on the Military Channel. Who knew? Certainy not the Nazis.

I guess that's exactly the OP's point.

The episode is on again today (3/27) at 11 AM and 6 PM.

Added info:
World War II: Double Agent's D-Day Victory
http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-double-agents-d-day-v...

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Excellent post

I have read this book and conquer with its tone and points.

Your points are well taken and you are right about our ability to prevail...WE WILL.

I can verity GOP spies as we had an infiltrator last night at our planning meeting, so for those who think this post to be "wacky", my message to you is "wake up". The sad part is, he "was" one of us. He used a fake IP, got on our list and came with the GOP chair of the county. This meeting was a general one, so we let them stay. Next week are the details, so email and invite invitation verifications will be required at the door and at my discretion.

We are reaching our most crucial hour, we cannot afford mistakes and must learn from one another.

Victory for freedom

"No army can stop an idea whose time has come"

Wacky

Dude, this is the goofiest post I've read in a while. You're a "spy?" Oh lord. If people didn't think us Ron Paul fanatics were looney before, they'll believe it now. This takes the cake.

It makes me question your

It makes me question your mental acuity if you think spying on the opposition is "goofy".

Yeah... as much as I desperately want to know everything

that we have going on so I can feel fantastic... it's probably better that we keep a lid on our tactics until after we come out on top of each conflict. I know for damn sure I can keep secrets but ya'll don't know me from adam so how would you know?

Same goes for a "screened" DP email list. Not only do ya'll not know how much of a secret information ninja I am versus some other dude, what if I had an easily hacked email password? What if I was the kind of poor bastard that leaves his email logged in all the time? Etc, etc, etc. We're better off w/ the Sun Tzu suggestions (both the real man and the OP on the thread).

In the mean time... I've decided to join the GOP establishment and convert those rigid big government bastards from the inside out. Maybe I'll dye my hair grey (hell it's starting to grey up anyway) and stop smiling as much. Then I'll fit right in. ;)

Good advice but NOT good enough

This writer knows the score! I would, however, go one step further. The very best thing to do is follow the deception tactic even more, and act as if you are a Santorum supporter. the GREATEST would be to not even let the RP peole know!!! Obviously there are thier people hidden in our ranks too. How do you think they are always getting informed??? I am not a big supporter in the Book of Ester, stating that you should infiltrate and trick your enemies, but, face it, they are doing much worse to us. Those corrupt criminals that are very much perpetrating vote fraud see the Ron Paul people as the ENEMY and hate everything about us and will go to all lengths to defeat us. If we "roll over" and let them see who we are that will make the battle much, much more impossible.
Use some of thier own medicine against them....see how they like the taste.
They think it is fine for them to use fraud, deceit, corruption, ect... and it is justified because WE are the bad guys.
BLOCK THEM!!!

Excellent

sign of desperation, when ideas do not spread by their own virtue. I do not know if "Duked" is still at heart a socialist-progressive or from countries under Sharia Law, but such ploys do not work in OUR particular movement.

For a STABLE free society with a free market to last, consensus should be achieved. If not, RP can be elected as president, but voted out in 4 years.

Sure, progressives, who joined RP movement for only anti-war purpose, want just that.

Just wear a sweatervest

You will pass right through without being questioned :)

The biggest secret of all

This is for those that do come here to try and find our strategy, our secrets. So to make it easy for you, my biggest secret is:

I LOVE and TRUST my candidate the honorable Ron Paul!!!

Can you, Romney, Santorum, and Gingrich supporters say the same thing???

Ummm! didn't thing so.

Crabnuggets!

Opps, sorry about the language.

Here I was all stealthy for tonights GOP LD meeting and guess who we see right off the bat? My next door neighbor. I'm thinking, the RP sign in the front yard may be a dead giveaway. However, we seemed to get through the meeting without our cover being blown. I had to bite my tongue a few times but no blood was showing.

Initial infiltration seems to have been accomplished. Neighbor may be cool, asked if we wanted to get support being precinct committee persons. Either hasn't read the sign too closely, is very tolerant, or a closet RP person. Any way you slice it, this could work.

Bump

bumperization

Other campaigns don't come here.....

Why waste time on someone who is "unelectable."

It's true, as I've heard the MSM say it countless times. Heck, they don't even show him anymore on the nightly news.

Great

Bump!

Update

Okay, so I posted this 3 weeks ago. When I hit save things acted weird and I was sure I lost the post and due to other things that were more pressing I did not attempt to rewrite it.

So I can now tell you some things, but not everything because we are still engaged in battle and stealth is more important than ever.

Our intelligence was spot on and because of our foreknowledge, we were completely and undeniably able to thwart their plans. We knew of moles within our ranks and we used them to great effect. But it was the moles in their ranks working for us that were of the greatest benefit. Right now our opposition is looking over their shoulder and they do not know who to trust. They are even suspicious of each other.

We have now tightened our security and have limited the high level strategy to a handful of people that are above reproach. This is not being done to create a top down environment or exclude other loyal supporters. It is done strictly for information security because people like to share things with each other, especially "inside" information.

I don't blame them at all, I understand it. And because I do understand it, I am helping us all by not letting them know certain things.

I have some hardcore battle hardened soldiers on my team and we will have a massive victory very soon.

My point to all of you is to give you advice based on my successful efforts.

Plan hard. Be serious. Yes this is all fun, but it is serious business and if we take our preparations seriously we WILL win.

More important than spies and planning and strategy is ONE SIMPLE THING.

HAVE MORE PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR RON PAUL THAN THE OPPOSITION HAS SHOW UP AGAINST RON PAUL.

This is one time that having superior planning and strategy means nothing if you do not have the numbers come caucus/convention day. We MUST have 51% or more at every caucus/convention.

Many places received devastating losses for the simple reason they did not have their people show up on the day they were needed. This has to be EVERYONE'S number one priority. Just as is the case where I am, there are people making plans for Ron Paul to win where you are and they are mostly doing a good job at making those plans. It is then up to the rest of us to get butts in seats. Not just your own, but everyone you can drag with you.

If we really want Ron Paul to win, there is nothing more important to make sure we achieve that goal that turnout. It is time to light the brush fires of freedom that we keep talking about. Now is not the time to rest. Let the opposition rest while we QUIETLY amass our armies for the final push to victory. Every one of us needs to PERSONALLY find 30 people to attend their caucus/convention and make sure they show up. If we all do that, we win.

What are you willing to do for Ron Paul?

Sun Tzu , Thank you for this uplift

so often when I read that the campaign or ron Paul personally should do this or that or respond to so many perfidies by those who dwell in FEAR of REAL CHANGE
I have wanted to say there is are higher intelligences at work behind Ron Paul and they know this game and will batten down any hatches and shut any North facing windows as we move into the long stretch but as I am only a small town supporter with a large flame in my heart I cant say such things with any instance of believability except my advanced age/experience as an activist and my considerable intuitive sense.
Thanks so much for this REASSURANCE and VALIDATION of what I knew must be!

waiting for the first photo of President Ron Paul!

>Every one of us needs to

>Every one of us needs to PERSONALLY find 30 people to attend their caucus/convention and make sure they show up. If we all do that, we win.

THIS. Exactly.

All the sneaking around and planning won't amount to anything if you don't have an army of supporters who are bringing a larger army of their friends and family behind them.

Also, if a Paul supporter is eligible to go to a district or state convention then they HAVE to go. Delegates from the other campaigns will drop out as the process goes on, but Paul supporters need to stay in the game. As they do that they will increase their percentages. If they weren't successful at the county level but the ALL show up for the state convention then they'll have a shot at voting for change at the state level.

cool!

i look forward to further victories! and i applaud your self control in not letting your pride overwhelm you, causing you to gloat over minor battles in this great war!

Thank you!!!

Very good advice.

Sun Tzu

Cool! Ghost Operatives for Ron Paul. Target the MSM!!!!
oops, did I say too much?

The Constitution stands as a model of cooperative statesmanship and the art of compromise.

Did you see Dr. Paul on Piers Morgan tonight?

He spoke about having more and more delegates but, he NEVER revealed any numbers. That's the way we should handle it. Give indications but, no actual numbers from here on out.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

bump because deep down we all

bump because deep down we all know this is true.

Susie 4 Liberty's picture

For a very long time, my dad's recommendation

"Keep your own Counsel" has rung in my ears. And never, has it been MORE applicable. (Meaning, I've used HIS good Counsel before in my life - much to my advantage, by the way.)

Susie 4 Liberty

Cyril's picture

Yup. Absolutely.

I can relate to that one, too.

(Though not from my father, but anyway.)

Also :

"Prepare for the worst. Expect even worse." (the pessimistic version of the other ;)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Sounds Like We Should Take a Peek

Sounds like we should go off to see what everyone else is up to.

Just this week, in California, I got solicitations for money from Romney and Santorum (neither of whom I gave my mailing address), and of course, I'm on the Ron Paul list.

Time to start organizing California!

What do you think? http://consequeries.com/