Ron Paul Rejects Boortz Invitation.
I've always been of the philosophy of confronting every problem person head on and not shying away from a confrontational person.
Neal Boortz is a big blow hard but he had invited Ron Paul to be on his show this morning. Boortz just said that Ron Paul is in the media area right now on the Ed Schultz show. He said the Ron Paul campaign has just told him that Ron Paul will not come on the Boortz show because Boortz has said too many bad things about him.
Come on Ron Paul. You didn't back down from O'Reiley, you didn't back down form Beck or Hannity and now you are going to give Boortz the bragging rights that you are afraid to confront him and his arguments. I'm so disappointed. Ron Paul should kick his butt and run circles around him logically.
Here's the link. Near the top right is a link to listen live.
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Boortz sold out what ever honor he may have had for a photo-op
with the Decider.
http://www.nytimes.com/20...
this thread is from JANUARY, folks
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Maitski
You have no idea what Ron stands for...I feel sorry for you, i really do. Spreading you're hate filled lies...Why not go on, and show that what it is, to a socialist program? These posters who pretend to be Paul supporters are nothing more than rats waiting to breed the collectivist lie...Anyone who says you are a terrorist for believing in the constitution, is the real terrorist
I never approved...
...of Ron Paul appearing on O'Reilly or Beck, so I'm glad he's finally realized he doesn't have to appear on hostile host's shows. It's not about fear, it's about self-esteem. He's too good for Boortz! Why should he go on his show, I mean, really, who the hell is Boortz? I've never heard of him, and I certainly wouldn't tune into his show unless Ron Paul was on it! Why should Ron Paul boost some pathetic no one's ratings if that guy hasn't even been supportive of the campaign? Forget this! We've all got better things to do.
GO DR. PAUL
F* Boortz....he doesn't deserve Dr. Paul!
Good for Dr. Paul for finally putting his foot down and saying he's not going to give that kind of trash the time of day. It's not that he's scared. He has too much dignity than to go down to that filths level.
Seems to me Dr. Paul
is trying to make it to the college campuses to get his message out. Let's face it the young people are the future they need to really understand the message. The reception he gets from the young really energizes him why put up with the BS if he can get a break from it.
In my opinion
The reason these people want him on is to boost their ratings. They know where Dr. Paul goes, a crowd follows. If Dr. Paul is there, I am there and when he leaves, I leave.
Never swing at the first
Never swing at the first pitch.
"It is like a finger pointing away to the moon, don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all the heavenly glory." - Bruce Lee
Give the man his head
Allow him to go where he wants to go.
Neil Bozo...
is a clown. Why would Dr. Paul dignify this fool?
Don't listen to these idiots and they will eventually go away.
This is good
Ron Paul doesn't need to talk to that clown. He is bigger than that. BY FAR.
That guy Boortz will go down...
So What??
This is old news. ;)
Boortz is a.....
Gate keeper who trys to make it sound
like he is soooo fed up with the folks in
Washington and that we should all be scared
of all the big bad "Islamic fascists" that will
get us if we leave the Middle East.
SCREW THAT BASTARD!
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
RP shoots himself in the foot
OK - Boortz is a loser, a neocon in Libertarian duds, a bully and a hypocrite. But that doesn't excuse Ron Paul and/or his campaign.
As a former talk show producer with friends still in the business, I can tell you Ron Paul stiffed a lot of his media friends over the last 4-6 months.
Here in Toledo on WSPD, Brian Wilson is the most passionate, articulate, entertaining and informative Libertarian I have ever heard anywhere. He once mentioned on the air he used to work w/Boortz at WGST/Atlanta. Wilson had Ron Paul on twice in the last year - but after Paul got into the race, Wilson's calls were never returned! And - to borrow the phrase - Wilson is one of Paul's biggest fans! He even writes for LewRockwell,.com, the main RP cheerleading web site! So why didn't Paul appear w/Wilson? There are still banners and signs all over the area w/Ron Paul on them?
Boortz may be - is - everything that has been written about him here. From the 3 times I've listened, I agree. But Ron Paul and/or "his people" can't say the media didn't treat them fairly when they didn't even take advantage of the media people who loved him and his message -- like Brian Wilson on WSPD. Here's a guy who has had James Bovard on a bunch of times. They're pals! He's speaking w/Tom DiLorenzo at the Ohio Libertarian Party Convention this weekend. I'm not a Libertarian yet - but my wife and I are going because Wilson and DiLorenzo will be there and because Wilson has spoken so eloquently about Freedom, Liberty and Individul Responsibility.
Appearing w/Boortz would have been a big waste ofPaul's time. Failing to appear with Brian Wilson was a big wasted opportunity.
BB
Boortz is now on a competing station in Toledo and his ratings suck.
Wilson, otoh, is kicking ass! A few months ago, he took our facist mayor to court on First Amendment grounds when the fool blocked one of WSPD's reporters from a news conference.
Give this man a break! He is
Give this man a break! He is 72! Never in a million years thought he had a campaign to win..
I mean you know how time seems to speed up when you are older. Imagine how fast this is going for someone his age? Many times he looked tired and he still carried on.
Perhaps he sees like many of this that it needs to be a bigger movement than just him..
Colleges and other public forums are the answer..
Not the media. They will do what they want to do..regardless of what the masses think or feel.
Nice!
Too bad Ron Paul didn't go on Wilson's show, but it may be hard to make every appearance.
Not a big deal
Ron Paul has been advocating roughly the same philosophy for years, and I'm sure Boortz knows all about it. If he doesn't get it by now, he'll never get it. My guess is he just wanted the ratings and to ask Paul when he's dropping out. Ron Paul doesn't need the aggravation, nor does he need to acknowledge such idiots. Don't forget, it's easy to say what you would like to see happen, but the only one who's been taking the bullets for the last year has been Ron Paul....from all corners. F**k Boortz and the donkey he rode in on....Imo.
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No one should listen to Neal
No one should listen to Neal Boortz anyway, he is redundant.
Neal Boortz is an ass
Neal Boortz is an ass and has called Ron Paul and anyone that votes for him nuts. I am glad Ron Paul refused Boortz invitation. Boortz is a crackpot and we should give his show any credibility.
I don't know who this guy is but...
at first glance he looks to be a McCain sympathizer...
Neil Boortz is an idiot!
That fool calls himself a "libertarian" and then supports Huckabee and now he's cozying up to McCain...some "libertarian"...don't trust men who look like geeks......(unless the prove otherwise)....
Boortz Talk Show - must be tough with Bush's dick in his mouth
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Boortz is a douchebag!
THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands by it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman.--Thomas Paine
I wouldn't do it either
Yesterday I listened to boortz for a few going to the post office...this young man called in saying that he and his family would end up having to pay more taxes in a fair tax plan...and boortz went off saying never call in until you educate yourself...this young man pretty much new what he was talking about....then boortz hung up on him....NOPE I wouldn't do it either
Neal's Snooze
I recall Neil Boortz with a certain amount of admiration and affection. He is to me like a high school teacher who introduced me to certain political philosophies and concepts but was intellectually incapable of taking me to a higher level of libertarian education. For that I turned to the finest professors in libertarian undergraduate and post graduate studies. Ayn Rand, Ludwig von Mises, Lew Rockwell, James Bovard and of course the late and great Harry Browne. Boortz started to sell out his devotion to libertarian principals in the year 2000 when his contempt for Bill Clinton overtook his ability to live up to his constitutionalist dreams. I started to tune Boortz out then. His hypocrisy become ultimately apparent when he would rage against politicos on the left and on the right until they accepted an invitation to be guests on his radio talk show. He would then go out of his way to cuddle up with the likes of Dick Morris and Condoleezza Rice, appeasing them with softball questions and gratuitous appreciation. AM talk radio in Atlanta and across the country is bad enough without the only so called libertarian voice selling out. Ironically, Bob Barr could do a better job of promoting individual liberty and personal responsibility than his old nemesis Boortz. Aside from his passion to implement the Fair Tax, Boortz’s program is largely insignificant. There is too much non-think filler about Belinda’s kids or Royal’s marital woes. There was a time when Boortz would praise Ron Paul often for being the only member of congress worth who was worth a damn. Now all Neal can do is damn the man he once marveled at. When Boortz admits that he has turned a mental disorder into a formula for a successful radio talk show, believe him. There are those that have worked with him that know it to be true.
Heresay Evidence....
I say prove it and then we can call the campaign until then don't post it. I am flagging this post as nothing more then trolling.
Boortz doesn't allow debate
He will shout you down, he likes opposite views so he can shoot them down. I actually like his show, I think it's the best produced show around, but since 9/11 he went from a libertarian to an extremely economically conservative neocon. He used to trash people for voting republican because there wasn't a dimes worth of difference between the parties and used to be very pro-privacy (didn't like the banking rules, etc.). Now he wants to bring Dr. Paul in to skewer the one candidate who would change Washington. Interesting how all these "conservatives" only care about the war. If you take away that issue, he should have every conservative endorsement.
Fence sitters are being turned off
Two callers just called and said that they are wondering why Ron Paul is afraid to confront Boortz.
If he can't stand up to Boortz, how will he be able to stand up to others as president.
His image is already persceived to be weak since he is against the war. He is making a huge mistake here. You defeat a bully by standing firm and looking him straight in the eye.
That's ridiculous
Ron Paul isn't afraid of Boortz. Ron Paul is too good for Boortz! I applaud his decision to have the good sense and high self esteem to be selective about whose shows on which he appears! If Boortz's callers don't understand that, they're idiots, and why should Ron Paul cater to idiots?
Don't sweat it.
Don't sweat it. Boortz thinks he's a reinvention of Rush Limbaugh, but he's actually just a reincarnation of Morton Downey jr.
The guy talking to Boortz
The guy talking to Boortz now is pretty good. Explaining and polite. Well done!
Big mistake
Confrontations create energy.
This was a mistake. Boortz
This was a mistake. Boortz agrees with him on so many issues, it was a perfect opportunity to get in his good graces. I'm pretty sad that this didn't happen because I think Boortz would really like him if he talked to him.
The Bunkum of Boortz
The licence of his libertarianism is approved by the Cato league of neocons. At some point these gatekeepers must be outed as hoi polloi. I think Dr. Paul does not want to dignify his stature as deserved...
Boortz is a jerk
I'm glad he's not going on Boortz, he doesn't really argue. He's a jerk that would make him look bad no matter what. Why give Boortz good ratings by going on there?
Big mistake
Boortz is now whipping Ron Paul about the rude supporters. This is an uphill fight to begin with, why in the hell do some Ron Paul supporters give the MSM guys ammunition to shoot us down with. Ron would not be rude and would not condone rudness. The media is painting us all with the same "Kook and Rude" brush. Also, many of us have our doubts about 9/11 etc. but don't make public comments about it. Talking about the conspiracy theories only give the MSM more help in marginalizing Dr. Paul. As supporters we could help Dr. Paul by talking about his views. I continue in my support for Ron Paul.
I want to learn how to debate jerks like Boortz
The reason I want so much for Ron Paul to confront Boortz is to learn directly from the Dr. how best to confront such arguments such as Boortz brings up. How we address radical Islam will be the number one issue we need to address in order to get more people on board. Boortz is pretty much in agreement with just about everything else that Ron Paul stands for.
We can't just ignore the issue and move on to another topic.
Also, Boortz is trashing those crazy supporters and he's making it sound like Ron Paul must be a nut too. How better to diffuse such nonsense than to come on the show and talk in a calm and sensible manner. Look how he diffused Glenn Beck. He had Beck wanting to French kiss him. By avoiding Boortz and not countering all of his negativity, many will think that Boortz is correct.
Why should a free society
Why should a free society "address radical Islam"? The dirty little secret of libertarianism is that it is a reactive ideology by necessity. You don't lock up innocent people just because they come from abusive homes and statistics show that they are more likely to commit crimes. You react if and when they actually commit one. You don't need a massive criminal code, you only need a massive judiciary so that people may seek justice after the fact. This is the nature of a free society, and yes it does mean that there will be innocent victims that a police state might have saved. There's no reason not to extend this same philosophy of freedom to our foreign policy. We don't need to preemptively invade half the world in an attempt to prevent Muslims from getting out of hand. This is what the neocons don't understand, because they are born of communism which is the antithesis of a free society.
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YUP!!!
I totally agree.
First of all
this is a negative post. I thought we had discussed that. The last thing Ron Paul needs right now is bad press. Contrary to popular belief, any press is not good press in regards to potential presidential candidates. We need to do everything we can to lead the campaign in a direction to build up Dr. Paul to make up for any shortcomings he may have in the eyes of your average undecided.
Good for Dr. Paul!!
I do not understand your intention in criticizing Ron Paul for not appearing on Boortz. However, I do listen to him and several of the other radio talking heads everyday, and in case you do not know, they are a major complaint to me. For months I have listened to him deride, degrade and slander Dr. Paul. He has called RP supporters every name imaginable. His claim, as the others, for a return to constitutional government, restrained spending and regulation, should have led him to give voice to our movement. After YEARS of listening to them spin their web of fraud, they exposed themselves as charlitans.
I appreciate Dr. Paul refusing to appear on the show now. As humble a man as Ron is, he probably turned Boortz down out of respect to US instead of his own ego. Boortz was going to trash Ron Paul anyway and I contend that this was no loss at all.
and he didnt back down from this clown either
becasue this clown says so you belive him? really?
Liberty = Responsibility
I don't think
that we get the first hour here in Austin live, but the show just came on and the first thing out of Boortz's mouth was about how crazy Ron Paul supporters are talking about the hannity thing. I'm seriously losing it. He's painting all of us as the type that would do this and its just pathetic. Whomever that was that followed Hannity I hope your 15 minutes was worth it. I know there was a ton of argument yesterday about this issue but the fact is the guys who did that have created a lot of bad press. I hope they are proud of themselves
It depends.
I don't really know anything about this Boortz fellow, but if he's the kind of interviewer (and I use the term very loosely) that Bill O'Reilly is - the kind that only asks a question so they can jump on you before your first sentence is out - then I say forget him. If someone wants to argue with Dr. Paul on issues and give him time to answer, great, fine, we know RP can handle that. But bully interviewers like BillO and Hannity need to start experiencing blowback first hand.
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Moobi
www.CentralIllinois4RonPa...
"In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." -- Thomas Jefferson
mayb he's got a decent reason...
he may already be totally committed to important things in NH? Give him the benefit of the doubt, I think he knows what he's doing.
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We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
-Steppenwolf 1969
It depends.
I don't really know anything about this Boortz fellow, but if he's the kind of interviewer (and I use the term very loosely) that Bill O'Reilly is - the kind that only asks a question so they can jump on you before your first sentence is out - then I say forget him. If someone wants to argue with Dr. Paul on issues and give him time to answer, great, fine, we know RP can handle that. But bully interviewers like BillO and Hannity need to start experiencing blowback first hand.
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Moobi
www.CentralIllinois4RonPa...
"In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution." -- Thomas Jefferson
no link but I listened
Here is the reason Paul didn't go on with Boortz (imo). So little time so many people to do interveiws with. Ed even said that Ron came on his show because Ed treats him fairly. So if you can only do so many interveiws and it gets out treat him fairly and you will get Ron Paul on and your ratings go up!
Sorry,
I happen to agree with this. These media shills that want to tell lies and denigrate the candidate can get lost. Before he started ranting on Paul, I never heard of this Boortz guy, and perhaps we shouldn't hear about him anymore.
When Ron Paul wins his first primary, the outlets that have been fair with him, should be the ones that get the ratings.
Ron Paul, in the next 4 weeks, has the ability to ruin these shills, as more Americans want to hear the message, and they will be shut out.
Jay Leno used the opportunity to slam Fox big time.
CNN will gladly use Ron Paul to trounce Fox News in ratings, we can always count on money grubbers grubbing.
America is sick, call a doctor! Dr. Ron Paul.
Well, IF he does go-on
IMO he should demand an initial (and uncensored) 5 minutes of rebuttal-time before answering any questions from the host. First things first.
And if this means he doesn't go-on at all? No disaster, IMO. Go on Howard Stern's show, which has superior ratings despite the subscription limitation, if my guess is right.
JMR
Screw Boortz! RP can pick his venues now. Payback! Sweet!
Yes, just like that hack NH radio host who yesterday had RP on his show and then tore him apart after the interview was over when Paul could not respond. Let them be on notice that RP now has the philosophy:
fool me once.....
well - you know what I mean! LOL
"The question is not who will let me- the question is who will stop me" - Ayn Rand