Attn: Concord Ron Paul Meetup Group!
Submitted by chipaugel on Wed, 01/09/2008 - 03:17
This pertains to the following comment by Duffmanwwu from another dailypaul blog:
I'm confused....
On January 9th, 2008 Duffmanwwu says:
There were 628 people in the RP Meetup Group in Concord, which is in Merrimack county. But only 385 votes for Paul in that county? What the hell happened there?
There were a few inquires into this in the other blog, but I felt this at the least deserved its own attention. What did happen here? Can you guys do a count yourselves? Our country is depending on you.
not everyone in the Concord
not everyone in the Concord group votes or is from Concord. There were a lot of people helping out who came from all over the countrie. That's what skews all the meetup member #s
neopaulite
I suggest, you meet up and teach
Everybody their hand signals
"I have found an honest man."
Diogenes of Sinope
"I have found an honest man."
Diogenes of Sinope
In Merrimack Sutton alone,
In Merrimack Sutton alone, there were 386 votes cast. Merrimack total votes cast was over 25,000.
What ever happened in Merrimack Pittsfield?
Union leader results (http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?articleId=a34f309c-4... ) for Merrimack Pittsfield changed so that the vote totals stayed the same but
Giuliani 0->81, Huckabee 8->138, Hunter 0->8, McCain 0->226, Paul 186->70, Romney 0->186, Thompson 0, Others 533->18.
(Paul lost 116 votes. However, there were many zeros in the first report so it could have been a human error.)
Also in Strafford Dover, Romney lost 10 votes.
Related discussions:
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23370
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23379
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23312
Comparing the Union leader
Comparing the Union leader (
http://www.unionleader.com/article.aspx?articleId=a34f309c-4... ) results and the newer Boston Globe (
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/nh/nh_primary_gop_r... ) results, I noticed the following oddities:
Rockingham Newington McCain:-10 votes
Rockingham Rye Giuliani:-10 votes
Merrimack Warner Huckabee:-10 votes
In my earlier post I reported a similar case for Romney in Strafford Dover. I have now observed ten vote decrements for those four candidates.
Lowest amounts of actual RP
Lowest amounts of actual RP votes were recorded at
Coos Millsfield For RP:0 RP%:0.00 % Total:5
Coos Wentworth's Location For RP:0 RP%:0.00 % Total:5
Coos Dixville For RP:0 RP%:0.00 % Total:7
Hillsborough Greenville For RP:0 RP%:0.00 % Total:144
Merrimack Sutton For RP:0 RP%:0.00 % Total:386
Grafton Waterville For RP:1 RP%:1.41 % Total:71
Grafton Ellsworth For RP:1 RP%:5.88 % Total:17
Cheshire Roxbury For RP:2 RP%:6.06 % Total:33
Grafton Landaff For RP:3 RP%:3.30 % Total:91
Coos Stratford For RP:3 RP%:4.92 % Total:61
Grafton Easton For RP:3 RP%:5.77 % Total:52
Coos Errol For RP:4 RP%:5.63 % Total:71
Carroll HartsLoc For RP:4 RP%:25.00 % Total:16
Carroll Eaton For RP:5 RP%:5.75 % Total:87
Carroll Chatham For RP:5 RP%:6.17 % Total:81
Coos Randolph For RP:6 RP%:7.32 % Total:82
Carroll Jackson For RP:7 RP%:3.11 % Total:225
Coos Stark For RP:7 RP%:6.31 % Total:111
Coos Shelburne For RP:7 RP%:7.78 % Total:90
Hillsborough Sharon For RP:8 RP%:9.20 % Total:87
Rockingham New Castle For RP:9 RP%:2.52 % Total:357
Coos Carroll For RP:9 RP%:5.77 % Total:156
Grafton Lincoln For RP:10 RP%:3.76 % Total:266
Cheshire Gilsum For RP:10 RP%:6.85 % Total:146
Cheshire Nelson For RP:10 RP%:8.33 % Total:120
Grafton Dorchester For RP:10 RP%:13.89 % Total:72
Sullivan Langdon For RP:11 RP%:7.48 % Total:147
Grafton Woodstock For RP:12 RP%:5.19 % Total:231
Cheshire Stoddard For RP:12 RP%:5.77 % Total:208
Grafton Piermont For RP:12 RP%:8.51 % Total:141
Grafton SugarHil For RP:12 RP%:8.76 % Total:137
Grafton Orange For RP:12 RP%:24.49 % Total:49
Sullivan Acworth For RP:13 RP%:7.88 % Total:165
Cheshire Harrsvil For RP:13 RP%:8.67 % Total:150
Coos Clarksvl For RP:13 RP%:15.66 % Total:83
Carroll Freedom For RP:14 RP%:3.79 % Total:369
Cheshire Westmoreland For RP:14 RP%:4.09 % Total:342
Carroll Brookfield For RP:14 RP%:6.22 % Total:225
Cheshire Sullivan For RP:14 RP%:12.61 % Total:111
I think at least the
I think at least the following of those should be checked.
Hillsborough Greenville For RP:0 RP%:0.00 % Total:144
Merrimack Sutton For RP:0 RP%:0.00 % Total:386
Grafton Waterville For RP:1 RP%:1.41 % Total:71
Grafton Landaff For RP:3 RP%:3.30 % Total:91
Carroll Jackson For RP:7 RP%:3.11 % Total:225
Rockingham New Castle For RP:9 RP%:2.52 % Total:357
From the same
From the same site...
January 11, 2008 – Last day for any candidate for whom a vote was cast in a primary to apply to Secretary of State for recount. RSA 660:7.
http://www.sos.nh.gov/presprim2008/index.htm
www.cannabisculture.com
Problem viewing page...
Thank you for the link, I am just wondering if anyone else is having trouble viewing the page...I've been getting a time out for the last few hours...
Who is Other?
Who did 158 people vote for in Concord? Is Other just any write in? How could Other get 2nd with 30% of the vote in Albany County?
Not suggesting any conspiracy, just don't understand how you get 30%, 12% or even 1% of people in any county voting for someone with less name recognition than Duncan Hunter?
http://www.politico.com/nhprimaries/nhmap-popup.html
http://www.sos.nh.gov/Rep...
http://www.sos.nh.gov/Rep%20ballot.pdf
SAMPLE
SECRETARY OF STATE
PRESIDENTIAL PRIMARY ELECTION
JANUARY 8, 2008
CANDIDATE OF THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY
FOR PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES
I HEREBY DECLARE MY PREFERENCE
FOR CANDIDATE FOR THE OFFICE OF
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
TO BE AS FOLLOWS:
HUGH CORT
Birmingham, Alabama
JOHN COX
Chicago, Illinois
H. NEAL FENDIG, JR.
St. Simons Island, Georgia
DANIEL GILBERT
Arden, North Carolina
RUDOLPH W. GIULIANI
New York, New York
ALBERT HOWARD
Ann Arbor, Michigan
“MIKE” HUCKABEE
North Little Rock, Arkansas
DUNCAN HUNTER
Alpine, California
ALAN KEYES
Darnestown, Maryland
MARK KLEIN
Oakland, California
STEPHEN W. MARCHUK
Hancock, New Hampshire
JOHN McCAIN
Phoenix, Arizona
VOTE FOR NOT MORE THAN ONE
JAMES CREIGHTON MITCHELL, JR.
Lindenhurst, Illinois
CORNELIUS EDWARD O’CONNOR
Palm Beach, Florida
MITT ROMNEY
Belmont, Massachusetts
JACK SHEPARD
St. Paul, Minnesota
THOMAS G. TANCREDO
Littleton, Colorado
FRED THOMPSON
McLean, Virginia
“RON” PAUL
Lake Jackson, Texas
VERMIN SUPREME
Rockport, Massachusetts
WRITE-IN
“VERN” WUENSCHE
Houston, Texas
JOHN S. “JACK” BARNES, JR.
Raymond, New Hampshire
www.cannabisculture.com
Re:
Good question? I will call the New Hampshire GOP directly tomorrow to inquire. Hope others will do the same. Our voices must be heard!
Explanation, but???
Not all meetup members are necessarily voters there. Ron Paul supporters from other areas or states join meetups to share ideas, press people and other campaigns join to monitor the RP groups, and some people who join aren't committed and abandon the group but don't cancel their membership. In my experience about half of the meetup group membership total can be counted on to vote.
That said, I still think it sounds suspicious. It's hard to believe that there wasn't at least several RP supporters in the community for every real meetup member....
Re:
The explanation just doesn't jive, I'm more for the butt??? Afterall, Concord is a fairly large city. I know, I've been there a couple of times. I'm from Seattle, so I know what you're saying regarding members joining from different areas, etc. But how many Ron Paul members abandon the group or cancel their membership? I know you don't see that often out here, and I would venture to guess it doesn't happen much in New Hampsire or anywhere else for that matter. Also, the total number of meetup group members doesn't take into account those members who are married. At any rate, one would expect Concord to have a few hundred voters for Ron Paul anyway, especially after having Operation Live Free or Die canvassing going on. Something looks suspicious to me, and I hope some meetup group members from Concord see this.
Look...
some people are saying that there is no way to verify the vote. If each meetup makes an accounting of everyone they know that voted, it could be compared to the "official" numbers.
The way the word gets out among RP supporters, we could investigate the numbers one meetup at a time. Especially the precincts with small numbers - they should be able to verify.
Paul- 986 Votes -Concord & Merrimack 100%reporting
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/county/#v...
Concord100%reporting
updated 10:02 p.m. EDT, January 8, 2008
McCain-2,684-42%
Romney-1,577-25%
Huckabee-781-12%
Paul-601-9%
Giuliani-565-9%
Thompson-49-1%
Merrimack100%reporting
updated 11:15 p.m. EDT, January 8, 2008
McCain-2,046-35%
Romney-2,075-36%
Huckabee-561-10%
Giuliani-524-9%
Paul-385-7%
Thompson-71-1%
www.cannabisculture.com
Coos Millsfield RP:0
Coos Millsfield RP:0 RP%:0.00 Total:5
Coos Wntwth Loc RP:0 RP%:0.00 Total:5
Coos Dixville RP:0 RP%:0.00 Total:7
Merrimack Sutton RP:0 RP%:0.00 Total:386
Grafton Waterville RP:1 RP%:1.41 Total:71
Rockingham NwCastle RP:9 RP%:2.52 Total:357
Carroll Jackson RP:7 RP%:3.11 Total:225
Grafton Landaff RP:3 RP%:3.30 Total:91
Grafton Lincoln RP:10 RP%:3.76 Total:266
Carroll Freedom RP:14 RP%:3.79 Total:369
Cheshire Westmrld RP:14 RP%:4.09 Total:342
Rockingham HamptnFl RP:29 RP%:4.20 Total:690
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23379
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/23312
GOTV focus on the meetup groups then...
move outside the meetup groups as a second step!
that's strange
you'd think there would have been MORE votes than meetup members.
Yeah guys, the Primary was today... WTF?!
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