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Boston Globe shows some hokey figures

Anyone else here have trouble reaching 86,802 votes from McCains numbers?

http://www.boston.com/new...

Compared with the results at http://www.politico.com/

gives wild discrepencies. Anyone know what the "Official" site is?

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my total comes to 76569

that is a little weird...

Looking For Fraud in Wrong Place

The fraud isn't in the reporting of the votes, but in the votes themselves. These machines are quite easily manipulated and we need to concentrate on that...

If a labeling issue, whose is the tally of 207 under McCain?

It's not column labeling.
There is a hidden column on the far right. To view it, do a search for "145" (this happens to be a number in the hidden column), then you can see the hidden column. Refresh, and the column is gone.

Here's what happened "Actual" means "Actual tally of the candidate's column:"

.... .................. Actual .. Reported .. What happened
Pcts. Reporting ... 289 .. ...... 289 ... ... no change
Total Pcts. ... ... .. 301... ..... 301 .. .... no change
Giuliani ............ 20054 .. .. 20054 ....... no change
Huckabee ........ 26035 . ... 26035 ....... no change
Hunter ...... ....... 1195 .. .... 1195 ....... no change
McCain ... ........... 207 .. .. 86802 ...... McCain's 207 discarded; Paul's total given to McCain.

Paul .......... ..... 86802 ..... 17831 ...... Romney's total given to Paul
Romney ...... .... 17831 .... 73806 ...... Tancredo's total given to Romney

Tancredo ...... .. 73806 ... ...... 66 ...... Thompson's given to Tancredo
Thompson ............ 66 ... ... 2808 ...... Other given to Thompson
Other ................ 2808 ... .... 725 ...... Write-ins given to Other
Write-ins ............. 725 .. ... 4058 ...... 4058 of hidden right column given to Write-ins

Question:

What did they do with McCain's vote tally of 207 when they replaced it with Paul's 86,802? If the 207 is not McCain's, then whose is it? Everyone else's votes can be accounted for ...

I smell VOTE FRAUD.

... and why only McCain's tally?
... and why was his campaign "stunned"?

Interesting

This is an interesting analysis, but there is a serious flaw. Does anyone really believe that Tancredo garnered 73806 votes?! There is certainly evidence of voter fraud in this election, but this simplistic explanation doesn't quite hold up. It is certainly possible that parts of it are true, however.

I'm Not Sure About This Fraud...

If these numbers are truly representative of the real numbers last night....then I think that Tancredo's people would be in a complete uproar. Think about it....if tancredo got those numbers, then there would be more than 66 tancredo supporters in one town. But i don't know...

I dropped it into excel

So I could add the numbers quicker. Looks to me like the column headers might be wrong. The numbers add up, just to the wrong candidate. I would love to say that these are the actual results, with Dr. Paul getting 86802. I think it is probably a labelling issue.

I don't know what that extra column is for though.

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The Sheeple

Like to see hand signals of pyramids and eyes. Double blinking eyes give me a hard on when I see the ring finger move.

"I have found an honest man."

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They have Alan Keyes'

They have Alan Keyes' numbers in the McCain column, and because of that, the rest of the column captions are off by one column.

Yes...

If you look at the bottom totals on the chart, those are consistent with every other map that I have seen to date. Someone just screwed up the numbers in the columns. Also, the politico map and the Boston map are the same. It's only the columns in the Boston page.

I made screenshots of every

I made screenshots of every single state on boston.com - It's always the same scheme. McCain gets Ron's results, Romney gets Tancredos - we get Romneys votes and Thompson gets all "Other"-Votes. Tancredo is not shown.

So - the table under the map is simply wrong, or something really horrible is going on here.

Sorry for my Englisch, Iam from Germany. :)

I notice...

...an extra column of numbers that are off the screen on the right that has no column header. You have to select the text in the row and move it all the way to the right to view it.

the numbers line up fine on

the numbers line up fine on my screen (using Firefox).
no extra numbers in any extra columns

(the last 2 columns being Other and Write-in)

They line up fine when you refresh the screen, but

there is a hidden column on the far right. To view it, do a search for "145" (because this is a number that appears in the hidden column), then you can see the hidden column. Refresh, and the column is gone.

Here's what happened "Actual" means "Actual tally of the candidate's column:"

.... .................. Actual .. Reported .. What happened
Pcts. Reporting ... 289 .. ...... 289 ... ... no change
Total Pcts. ... ... .. 301... ..... 301 .. .... no change
Giuliani ............ 20054 .. .. 20054 ....... no change
Huckabee ........ 26035 . ... 26035 ....... no change
Hunter ...... ....... 1195 .. .... 1195 ....... no change
McCain ... ........... 207 .. .. 86802 ...... McCain's 207 discarded; Paul's total given to McCain.

Paul .......... ..... 86802 ..... 17831 ...... Romney's total given to Paul
Romney ...... .... 17831. ... 73806 ...... Tancredo's total given to Romney

Tancredo ...... .. 73806 ... ...... 66 ...... Thompson's given to Tancredo
Thompson ............ 66 ... ... 2808 ...... Other given to Thompson
Other ................ 2808 ... .... 725 ...... Write-ins given to Other
Write-ins ............. 725 .. ... 4058 ...... 4058 of hidden right column given to Write-ins

Question:

What did they do with McCain's vote tally of 207 when they replaced it with Paul's 86,802? If the 207 is not McCain's then whose is it? Everyone else's votes can be accounted for ...

I smell VOTE FRAUD.

Does anyone know how to

Does anyone know how to directly retrieve the figures from the National Election Pool?

You might want to do

a screen shot of that page.

I downloaded the entire web

I downloaded the entire web page

will that include the maps?

the map numbers don't show up unless you scroll on the precinct (and if you click on it a larger window opens up with the precinct numbers, larger than the display on the right)

So those have to be saved too!

Using Firefox I selected

Using Firefox I selected Save Page As > Then as type I chose web Page Complete, which should have saved all relevent files, but ever since firefox started catering to the windows crowd it has become very unreliable like anything to do with windows does

at a glance

at a glance it just looks like the number columns don't line up with the names of the candidates. Perhaps bad *software*--whatever that is, I'm a total technoklutz.

However, after correcting for that offset, it does appear that NO VOTES are recorded for Dr. Paul in Sutton. Another Daily Paul article has a comment from a person who knows of at least 3 votes cast in Sutton for Dr. Paul.

And someone else has pointed out that the comparative totals of the different candidates in both GOP and Dem primaries didn't seem to vary all night by more than a point or two . . . for any of them!!!

This is a very odd pattern of vote returns. I've been watching election returns for almost 50 years and there is almost always a shift, a run, a "feint" here or there in the relative percentages, as returns are reported from various different parts of a state. And the chances of such variation would, I think, be greater with the large number of candidates in this particular contest.

NH is a small state, but there are local and regional variations in its voting preferences just as in other states. If there IS any of the $20 million left, I suggest the campaign spend it on resolving questions about accuracy of vote returns.

I toatally agree...

It was extremely strange that Huck-a-bible had 11%, Ghouliani had 9%, Dr. Paul had 8% and Fred had 1% virtually the entire evening as the results came in. Can the entire state really be that homogeneous? Even when the college towns came in, I expected Dr. Paul to get a bump and at least pass Ghouliani, but nothing changed. I think perhaps Dr. Paul would make good use of some of that money to demand a recount of several precincts. I would have to say it looks like something was rotten in the "Live Free or Die" state.

don't think so!!

Eg look at Concord with the high vote count

Map says:

McCain 2684
Romney 1577
Huck 781
Ron Paul 601
Giuliani 565
Fred 49
Hunter 24

Then on the chart, there are only a couple of changes:

McCain 3
Romney 600
Huckabee 781 ( same)
Ron Paul 2684 (hmmm... looks like McCain's number above?)
Giuliani 565 (same)
Fred 49 (same)
Duncan 24 (same)

This is definitely ODD!!!

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMPPPPPPPPP

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switched numbers

I scrolled over a few districts on the map to see the votes for that area.

Note the vote numbers, and go down to the chart & see how they were switched:

EG
Albany - on the map, McCain got 46
On the chart, it shows Ron Paul got 46

Eg
Conway
On the map, McCain got 571, RP got 76, Giuliani got 123
On the chart, McCain got 0, Giuliani got 76 Ron Paul 571

This needs to be recorded - print screens/video/photos of the chart and each region on the map

very fishy indeed -- switching votes around??

HOLY CRAP!

What is this???
Ron Paul in second place?
This is really weird.

Wilmington NC LOVES Dr. Paul

Or 1st

Look the total on the botton. Doesn't add up!

quite a discrepancy!

Looks like McCain is near the bottom!

Someone needs to save this, pass along to Bev Harris?

I just sent the link to

I just sent the link to blackboxvoting.org

Looks like...

Tancredo 1st
Ron Paul 2nd

Then the total in the boton don't add up.

That's how it counts for me

That's how it counts for me as well

that is seriously weird

that is seriously weird because the numbers don't add up at all. How could someone really publish numbers like that because if RP had those counts he would be the winner.

Very!

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I made a excel page with all

I made a excel page with all the votes and color coded them ... The results

Giuliani = Giuliani Votes

Huckabee = Huckabee Votes

Hunter = Hunter Votes

McCain = Paul Votes

Paul = Romney Votes

Romney = Tancredo Votes

Thomson = Other Votes

I compared these to the so called published results and compared them to the AP results. This is really fishy because the ghoul and huck keep their votes while Mccain steals Pauls and Romney steals Tancredo's votes ... Thomson on the other hand steals votes from other .... These votes were just shifted to other canidates......