Town clerk from Sutton reports 31 not 0 votes for Ron Paul!
Posted January 9th, 2008 by JayDee
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Breaking News!
Town of Sutton, Jennifer Call town clerk confirmed that Ron Paul got 31 votes.
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This is more of a percentage than almost ANY other place.
Still think vote fraud is a "conspiracy theory"?
We must donate to Ron Paul 67,000 to hold a recount. This recount needs to be done by hand in public view. There is too much stuff coming out now, Mitt Romney got +9% on machine votes. Manchester is reporting odd numbers for "Other".
Don't give them the "benefit of a doubt" FORCE them to prove the results are accurate.
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I think the Paul campaign
I think the Paul campaign needs to make an example of this.
Yes it is
Well what we all already knew has been confirmed, not just suspected but confirmed and everyone knows it. This is going to get very ugly real soon as the masses realize just how corrupt this system is and it is not the Citizens job to prove vote fraud to the government, it is the governments job to prove to the Citizens that the voting system is honest and accurate or we have EVERY RIGHT TO PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES.
What I worry is
that it will be spun that 31 votes. oops...human error...no big deal....paulites are crazy whiners....MORE reason to go to voting machines.
This is just a worry but I DO want to get to the truth Everyone within the campaign deserves that
did you see how well he did in hand coun t precients
wow how could machine precinct be so different.
This is not going to end..
This is not going to end.. vote fraud is going to be something we are going to have to fight and we must fight it. If we can not hold genuine elections in America then democracy is dead. What can we do to ensure the election results from the rest of the nation?
ONE QUESTION
Where do I send my money!!!! Recount!
VOTER FRAUD GOING VIRAL...
Seems voter fraud is popping up all over the internet this morning. Lots of people angry. I think $60,000 would be a good investment for Ron Paul to spend for a recount- this is peanuts to a well off financial candidate.
There should be no more discussion about this period - email headquarters now to pay for it....
You've got to contact local media!
Local people whose votes were not counted MUST contact local media in New Hampshire. The local media is often not corrupt. You have to start with some local coverage and then it can move mainstream. This stuff HAS to be documented. Get the message out locally!
Vote Fraud hurts everyone
31 "missing" votes for Dr. Paul doesn't change the NH Primary or does it! This is not only HUGE news for Dr. Paul, but let us consider the other side of the aisle. Barrack Obama was heavily predicted to win NH. I found it hard to beleive that those polls were that off. Perhaps, someone should contact the Obama campaign and let them in on this info. If they have suspicions and start asking questions, then perhaps the entire primary would be re-counted!
They have the data and they
They have the data and they are telling us their data is accurate. However we have been able to prove their data could not be accurate in one city. So now why should be we trust them simply because we are unable to .. without any records of our own .. to prove they are not.
No, we need them to prove to us that no more "mistakes" were made and they must do a hand recount.
I emailed the Obama campaign
i encourage all of you to do so as well.
there's truth in numbers if the numbers are presented.
Good call!
I am sure Obama was robbed of votes too! Look at hiliarys magic boost to first.
I think...
this all began in Iowa. The powers that be saw that he was getting MORE votes than anticipated so they "lost" some votes. I'm sure they were shocked because this is a farming state and Ron Paul had said NO to subsidies. They knew NH would be a big state for him so they were prepared.
I didn't believe there was
I didn't believe there was fraud in Iowa. Now I'm wondering how transparent it was.. Bev Harris called the Iowa caucus a "magic show" because there was no way to check it.
which side...
...of the truth are you and me on??
meanwhile, i'll buy more gold and silver, pay off my mortgage, have food, water, and bullets stockpiled. i will work two jobs if i have to in order to continue sending my children to private school. our passports will be ready, and my 250 gallon tank on the farm will be full.
Good call
we're talking "preparedness" too.
Here's where to start the fraud investigation
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
I'd be looking into this youtube user's phone records and see who they might have been in contact with. It seems they may have known something.
this silverstein person
in my opinion is an agent of some kind. do not trust him or take him seriously.
CAUTION: We're all relying on Politico's graphic for this #...
There were two counties in southern NH that showed 0 votes for Romney yesterday too. Those have since been corrected.
Could it be just the GRAPHIC was wrong.. it does not appear the totals at the top have changed any.
The town clerk confirmed the
The town clerk confirmed the error. They did not report Ron Paul votes on the total that they sent in to the state. The excuse for doing that was human error.
It's not a press error, they city election council did transcribe Ron's votes.
Vote Fraud
I knew there was vote fraud yesterday. For our candidate, and definitely against Obama. This clearly proves what I suspected all last night. I just went through and counted. There are 16 different towns in New Hampshire where Ron Paul didnt get a single vote. Below is the link showing voting by towns and cities. This is crazy. We have to pay for a recount. Say its going to be 67k. We can raise that in half an hour. No problem. We have to get the campaign to do this. Or do it on our own.
http://maps.google.com/ma...
How could we get a re-count?
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Anyone in NH can demand a
Anyone in NH can demand a recount no matter how close.
So Ron can do this and pay the money for it. It will cost $67,000 and I would think thats good money spent. Human error is simply an excuse for vote fraud. If we have one case of fraud why not more.
Do you all honestly believe that Ron Paul the man of liberty lost in the live free or die state to Rudy an authoritarian who did not even campaign in the state? No, a recount must be done.
ABSOLUTELY!
This is for real, people. We've got to expose this NOW. Let's do whatever it takes.
fixed.
fixed.
Percentage
What do you mean "This is more of a percentage than any other place?"
31 puts us at like 10%, we have more in many other counties.
I agree...the statement was exaggerated!
I noted that there were 378 votes in Sutton without other included. As I recall an analysis revealed that there were about 384 total, so 31 votes would yield about 8.1% which is right in the ballpark. The modal value for all counties for Ron Paul's percentages was about 7.5.
But, where there is smoke there is usually fire...
Voter fraud needs to be examined carefully throughout the state. My analysis revealed that RP's distribution of percentages by county was not normal. A normal distribution is a bell-shaped curve. Rudy's curve was quite normal and there was no evidence of a significant difference between hand counted and machine counted percentage is was demonstrated by another writer. In Ron's case, the distribution appeared to be the result of two overlapping distributions, one with a modal value at about 7.0 and another with a modal value of about 9-10. The other data showed a discrepancy that was consistent with my analysis when hand-counted and machine-counted votes were tabulated.
BUMP
I hope the HQ spends some of the 20 million on a recount.
We have to do this !
if this comes out we could just win this thing and bring honesty back to the electoral process .
PROBABLY NOT FRAUD
Okay time to get off this particular town. This was from my original post. Paul's votes in Sutton were NOT put on anyone else's count. If you see the map, there were 932 votes last night. Now, since they added the 31 of Paul's, there are 963. So, maybe shameful incompetence on the one who reported, but I doubt it was voter fraud, because they couldn't have hidden the fact that the total didn't add up to the total votes in Sutton. Can we get this off here, and get to somewhere where there may be vote fraud for sure, because Sutton is my hometown, and I would like to be able to show my face there someday. Thank you
"nd I would like to be able
"nd I would like to be able to show my face there someday. "
Then you better get some people in Sutton that can handle basic mathematics. I mean seriously, with the importance of this election you would think there would be a couple cross checks if it was really just 'human error'.
Vote total in Sutton
Where do you get 932 votes? According to the MSNBC tabulation, there were 378 votes total without the 31missing ones. Another person counted 384 as I recall including "other" votes.
Propaganda
everything is okay.. nobody worry.. they just didn't know how to count Ron Paul Votes.. but the McCain Votes are A-OK... hahaha
You are kidding yourself.
You are kidding yourself. The votes don't have to go elsewhere for it to be fraud. NOT COUNTING ANY VOTES FOR A CANDIDATE IS ALSO FRAUD!!!
Elections are jokes...
I'm sorry everyone, but as soon as the results started coming in at 8% for Ron Paul, I knew that this election is just a farse. It's just a joke. Smoke and mirrors for everyone. This Sutton case is a perfect example. No matter where the breakdown is, there are too many dirty people in between that are mucking up the system. It truly seems like we have lost America.
http://www.redbluedesign....
lets do this!
anybody opening a donation link?
I Demand
I demand a Re-Vote.. everything on paper.. counted in front of 2 monitors for each candidate EVERYWHERE!!!!!
I second that
Now who out there can approve it? Make it happen --
Vote RON PAUL 2008
It just "happened" to be Ron
It just "happened" to be Ron Paul.
How much is required for a
How much is required for a recount and what are the rules?
I think it might vary by state
My experience was that the race had to be within 10% margin of error for the BOE to recount upon request, without charging the requesting party. Otherwise the requesting party must pay for a recount. It was something like $1000 a precinct in the 1990s.
i think
60+ thousand
one step at a time . . . but Quickstep!
So far, we have learned about ONE admitted failure to report Ron Paul votes. This could in fact be only a case of human error, as I believe Sutton was hand-counted and the returns phoned in--the error could be at either end of the phone.
I was taught in junior high geometry class not to jump to conclusions. I didn't learn geometry, and I barely learned the general application of that maxim. Don't jump to conclusions. But we were also taught to "show your work"---show the steps you took to get your answers. That's why a verifiable paper trail is so critical to having fair, honest, impartial elections!
There is less than 400 votes
There is less than 400 votes in Sutton. One person just "forgot" to put a certain (and sometimes unpopular) candidates name down?
You are right, but this is a giant RED FLAG and the campaign seriously needs to look into this.
..and we will give him money to do it.
we need to do sumthing...
someone please start a fundraiser for a recount or sumthin........now
please do this
We need to get this out there. Perhaps we can get all states to go to a vote by hand. This fraud needs to be exposed.
I, for one, would not mind if my donations to the campaign
paid to expose this blatant fraud and to investigate if it happened in other precincts. If we don't expose this now, the country is doomed. But for it to wake people up, it has to be more than 31 votes.
there may be
something to this
BUMP, this is VERY Important
BUMP, this is VERY Important and needs NATIONAL Attention!
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