Compare Hand-Count to 8% total - Something Fishy!

I recall seeing some 5 percents and alot of 7s and 8s.

Rich in NH

This was all predicted BEFORE the NH Primary....I refer you to these and others videos on YouTube which explained what and how the NewHampshire and other elections can be manipulated:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Yes, there should be a recount, not only by Ron Paul, but by ALL the candidates who were hurt by this. Dennis Kucinich has already requested recount of his votes.

Obama should request a recount, as should Huckabee and John Edwards. Maybe even McCain because, even though he "won" in NH, many of his votes were also siphoned off by the Establishment GOP. McCain is NOT the choice of the neocon GOP and will be dumped by them on Tsunami Tuesday, February 5th.

A different kind of vote manipulation is already a "done deal" for the February 5th Republican Presidential Primaries, which is where the bulk of "delegates" will be determined. Why do you think that Giuliani, Romney and Thompson are so nonchalant and blase' about the Iowa Caucus and the NH Primary?? NH will NOT matter one bit when it comes to determining the Republican nominee at the GOP Convention in September, one week AFTER the Democratic Convention.

The neocon Rep party has already determined who they want to POSSIBLY be the "winners" in most of these 22 "Tsunami Tuesday" Prez Primaries, by quietly changing the rules for registration over a year ago. What they did, when no one was watching or even interested, was CLOSE the GOP Prez Primaries, instead of leaving them OPEN, as had been in the past in states such as CA.

Originally, the intended target of this calculated decision was John McCain who, in states like CA and NH, receives MOST of his support from independents and Republican-LEANING voters, who are NOT registered officially as Republicans. Ron Paul was not even on the radar, but this regulation of the voter registration process will be even MORE effective against a candidate like Ron Paul.

I am NOT saying that a recount does not matter, and should not be done. It should. However, it would better serve Ron Paul if ALL the candidates who were hurt by this OBVIOUS fraud worked together, at least UNofficially, in an effort to show the American People that it was the NEOCON GOP who was probably behind it and why.

Who does a Giuliani/Romney/Thompson ticket want to run against? The answer is Hillary Clinton, NOT Barack Obama or John Edwards. So read between the lines. This is a CHESS game, NOT a series of Checker matches. There WAS, IS, and WILL BE a manipulation of Voter Registration, the Voting PROCESS and the vote count, by the Party who wants to win and will go to any length to do it.

Do not get me wrong. I am NOT being pessimistic about Ron Paul or discouraging that we continue to do whatever we can to educate and encourage Americans to vote for the ONLY real American running for the Presidency. No matter what the outcome in November 2008, we have already won because the American People KNOW the truth and are going to keep on fighting for our Constitution and our freedom.

And, everything that we can do NOW to explain NewHampshire AND the upcoming Primaries to the American People will only serve to heighten the integrity of Ron Paul, his campaign, and his efforts to bring truth and justice back to the voting process.

However, I AM being REALISTIC about what has happened and what is going to happen on February 5th and beyond. Which is why we must continue to act and speak, like Congressman Dr. Paul, with integrity and honesty and common sense. We must pick our battles wisely, and continue to use TRUTH as our weapon against the evil ones.

I took the vote totals from
http://www.nhpr.org/node/...
and the hand count and machine count from http://www.bbvdocs.org/NH...

Put both in excel and this is the result. Look at the negative percentage difference between hand count and machine count, they add up to a little more than Romney gained in the machine count.

____RG___MH_____DH__ JMc-___PAUL___ MR___ FT___OTHER
HC 8.08% 13.18% 0.59% 38.87% 9.08% 25.76% 1.33% 2.55%
MC 8.65% 10.74% 0.50% 36.53% 7.32% 32.58% 1.18% 2.34%

+/- 0.57% -2.44% -0.09% -2.34% -1.77% 6.82% -0.15% -0.21%

Percentage difference between hand count and machine count is
-6.99%

with only RG and MR picking up a positive percentage.

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Let's pretend for a moment that I have NO IDEA what all these numbers mean // can you translate them into a final percentage.

That way we might (or at least I might) have a better understanding how the numbers you've shown here compare to the numbers we were shown on TV and elsewhere as the 'official' tally. Thanks.

Truth be told -- I have no idea what all these numbers mean.

This list has been debunked already. You can't add percentages and then divide to get a percentage? Hello?!?!?!?

The statute that I read posted on the grannywarrior chipin page, said that Dr. Paul has to request a re-count. Has anyone contacted Dr. Paul's campaign to see if they had any intention of requesting a recount IF the $65K was furnished to them by the ChipIn?

Apparently this list of towns that do hand counts showing Ron pulling over 10% are merely the top 30 (in terms of Ron's vote percentage) among a total of 127. Unless we come up with some truly CREDIBLE evidence of fraud, we need to cool our jets and refocus on the campaigning business at hand.

This is the full list of townships and weather they are Diebold or hand count.

http://www.bbvdocs.org/NH...

www.jfletch.com/nh_votes.... - NO evidence of voting fraud here.

we are being robbed by BOTH

richmond hand count 77% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
lyman hand count 56.3% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
Orange hand count 44.6% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
Harts hand count 25% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
wentworth hand count 24% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
goshen hand count 22.68% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
marlow hand count 22.6% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
cornish hand count 21.2% for dr. Paul...100% reporting
Rumney hand count 19.3% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
croydon hand count 18.7 % for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
newport hand count 15.2% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
charlstown hand count 14.8% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
Allenstown hand count 14.5% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
bristol hand count 13.9% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
warren hand count 13.8% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
dorchester hand count 13.8% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
effingham hand count 13% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
albany hand count 12.9% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
antrim hand count 12% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
south hampton hand count 12% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
sullivan hand count 12.61% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
troy hand count 12.21% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
mason hand count 11.88% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
Strafford hand count 7% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
washington hand count 6.2% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
lancaster hand count 5.9% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
springfield hand count 1.9% for Dr.Paul...100% reporting
wilton hand count 1.7% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
Northfield hand count -0.33% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting
mont vernon hand count -0.25% for Dr. Paul...100% reporting

What good is data with no sources?

This doesn't make sense... Could you please explain where you got this data from and give us more details. How are the numbers so off? I know we keep on finding votes, but how do you get these numbers? Do they not think we are going to check this out?

Please map hand count areas vs. machine count areas.

If the hand count areas are in the north, there could be another explanation.

The primary beneficiary of Diebold counting was Romney.
http://ronrox.com/paulsta...

Huckabee and McCain lost a higher percent with machine counting than our man did. Maybe Romney did better in the south where the Massachussetts liberals have moved and Diebold is used. And maybe our man, Huckabee, and McCain did better in the north where there is less Massachussetts influence and ballots are hand counted.

PS: If you try to apply my logic to the Democrats, then maybe the votes for Obama are really anti-Clinton votes, and maybe the anti-Clintons are in the north. Maybe the establishment Democrats are in the south near Massachussetts.

Just my hypotheses.

I started doing this last night as well. I lost the link to the list of Diebold and hand count counties. Dose someone have it

complete list of hand counted precincts??

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What I did was add up all those percentages (shown above) and divided the sum by the total entries // My answer was 14.48 - percent (total).

Is that good?

and are these cities or counties?

Does this list include every hand counted county? If so, then it would pretty much be statistically impossible for Ron Paul to have only got 8% statewide.

Where did this information come from? Where is it posted? How can we be assured that these numbers are valid (credibility of the poster)?

If you are not OUTRAGED, you're not paying attention!

is this for real? where is it from?

the hand count precincts?

WINNING IS...
WINNING IS COMING IN FOURTH, EXHAUSTED BUT EXCITED, BECAUSE YOU CAME FIFTH LAST TIME.
WINNING IS BEGINNING, AND BY BEGINNING THE GAME IS HALF WON.
WINNING IS ALL IN THE ATTITUDE!

if each town hand counted and wrote it down, how do we get an audit of those votes so that we can verify the report?

crooks we live in the matrix

would put paul at 15%

I'm all for pointing this out to the news, but they won't listen... who do we send this to?

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