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The recount is on

is this still a go?

should I donate still?

www.rprradio.com
Ron Paul for President!!

Bank closes at two

Albert is waiting for us and I'm starting to panic .

78% now

...just dumped $50 to it.

go grannies!

This recount will help

ordinary people wake up and start thinking.

from the grannywarriors website...

ATTENTION
Our last Chipin ended due to technicall difficulties. Congratulations we have raised over $40,000. But we still need $25,000 by tommorrow at 3pm. So, please spread the word about the new Chipin.

http://grannywarrior.gran...

Thanks Everyone

Go Grannys go!

You can do it!

JUST PITCHED IN FOR GRANNIE WARRIORS - DO THIS!!

I just contributed....
GO RON GO...

Thanks, D.A.

Knew you'd come around! 20k or so more to go.

Official Notice

The ChipIn site has expierenced technical difficulties and has ended. There is a new ChipIn started here:

http://grannywarrior.chip...

Please spread the word about the new chipin. We have raised over $40,000 but need $25,000 more! We must fight them in NH or we will have given them passive permision to take the rest of the primaries.

Granny Warrior
www.grannywarriors.com

???

I donated before the crash. Will my donation be counted? I think it went through - paypal and then back to chip-in and back to the grannywarrior site.

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!

Just sent $50 to those sweet old ladies

Go Grannies!!

Me Too

Thanks Virginia!

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Recount make it bi-party. Get it doe cheaper and in a fair way..

I received an email for the Dems backing Dennis. Dennis is close to Ron Paul in his ideas. They are friends on the hill. He does not understand the economics as Ron does. Here is a the email which I think we should join together on to get the recount done cheaper and as an added bonus a bi-party would request it!

I deleted the email unfontunately... but found this on Dennis's site.

http://www.dennis4preside...

I think it would great to partner up here as it shows that it is unbais not that we are sore losers but care about the integrity of voting! It is a big bi-party issue... Hope this helps,,,,,

Regards,
John Gannon

Paul supporters 'freak out' town clerk

Story in Jan. 12 Concord Monitor in New Hampshire with the perspective of the Sutton Town Clerk on the mis-count of RP votes.

Paul supporters 'freak out' town clerk
Vote-counting flub draws ire, threats
By RAY DUCKLER

Jennifer Call's eyes searched the office for nothing in particular. Her arms waved and her fear spilled out.

"This is where I grew up," Sutton's town clerk said yesterday. "This is my hometown, this is where my family is, and all of sudden, my name is being splashed across the internet as this horrible person. And the frightening part is, I don't know these people and they don't know me."

http://www.concordmonitor...

The article stayes that the error was a blunder

committed by "some unknown"- thats a problem to me- who is this "unknown" and how does he rationalise writing "0" instead of "31" or some other variation with a "1" or a "3" in it? Was it a Freudian slip? or a fraudian slip? Who did it? Are they protecting his identity for the obvious reasons- or is she admitting that she hasnt a clue as to who is involved in the vote count process- allowing some "unknown" have the power so often quoted as - not the one who votes, but the one who COUNTS the votes.

Latest Update!

We have left Texas and are heading east on I-10. Thank you everyone who has supported us so far, you all are the only way things will change. We have been in contact with some people on the ground in NH, they just had a meeting with the Sec. of State and trust us, there is alot more tension up there than has been shown on this post. The State has the spot light on them and they don't like it. And they shouldn't! They knowingly used faulty machines that are banned in other states. To think we have to pay them to do what they should have done right in the first place, but I digress.

Our point is this: voter fraud affects all of us, if we have a chance to stop it now, we must take it. This is not about a single man, or a single political party. This is about our trust in government.

And if you haven't seen it check out this article by Devvy Kidd:
http://www.newswithviews....

Granny Warrior
www.grannywarriors.com

I don't know.... I *might*

I don't know.... I *might* not sure... Good luck, though.

over half

just a wee bit more

Bad Idea

Donate to the campaign not recount effort.

Check some of the latest on Ron Paul at

www.wakeuplate.com

And you care about a NeoCON's opinion, why?

I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!

He could be distancing himself from...

...the 9/11 people because they're crazy, too. Just like these Alex Jones types and the other kooks. I'm advocating that they can't believe in these crazy ideas or preach them but I think they've hijacked his name and the campaign to a degree and their association with the campaign is very bad.

I know that if I was running for a political office and taking it very seriously and was trying to win I would distance myself as far as possible from "9/11 truthers" and other fruits.

who you callin' fruit?

fruit face?

yeah.........i'm talkin' ta yuh.

it makes sense to stay on target (like star wars)......stay on target......

but needlessly following the examples given by the OLD MEDIA to divide us in our effort to better shape our world comes across, to this paul supporter anyway, as completely contradictory to paul's message. i call you no fruit for not having the capacity to understand that modern steel structures do not fail symmetrically and without cause. blind as a bat........but no fruit. and anyway, i'd rather be a fruit than a vegetable any day. but thanks for playing!

Please respect all supporters of Ron Paul for President

I respect Alex Jones as a defender of freedom so I am offended that you casually cast him as a kook.

Alex Jones works tirelessly to support Ron Paul and has quite a large audience. Click on www.Prisonplanet.com and go to the Alex Jones Radio show and give it a listen. Today he has devoted several hours talking positively about the Paul campaign.

'Nuff said.

Shame On You

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Do you realize that you are calling people kooks and crazy 'fruits' who have good reason to believe that justice has not been properly executed as regards a horrible, terrible crime carried out against this country of ours? And I say good reason because many of those folks you slander are respected and knowledgeable scientist, government related people, educators, etc.

You're calling people kooks and crazy 'fruits' who believe that the murder of over 3000 innocent people is terribly wrong and that the destruction of property mounting into the multiple millions of $$ is also wrong and that those guilty of these horrific crimes have yet to be punished.

You're calling people kooks and crazy 'fruits' because they have evaluated all the various facets of the official narrative and come to the understanding that hardly none of it makes a lick of sense.

You're calling people kooks and crazy 'fruits simply because you disagree with them, and you do so without one drop of proof to the contrary -- you obviously just choose to take the opposite stand regardless of the mounting evidence and facts.

I could go on and on BUT you're not worth the time and effort. You make the term "9/11 truthers" sound like it's a dirty word. Shame on you for that.

Are you serious?

Look you clearly have never worked on a SERIOUS campaign for political office before. The people who align themselves in the "9/11 truthers" and Builderbergers conspiracy types thats fine. They can go believe that stuff and preach and whatever...but please don't do it in Ron Paul's name or the campaign. It torpedo's any serious prospects that anything has.

The general public not only thinks the 9/11 truth campaign thing is absurd, I think they find the notion obscene. I include myself amongst said public that finds the notion that 9/11 was some "vast evil government conspiracy" absolutely crazy.

So yes I consider the "9/11 truthers" a bunch of fruits. You're exactly right.

Ron Paul should run as far away and as fast as possible from the 9/11 people they will only sink his credibility further.

I didn't join this campaign as a volunteer because I want to destroy the new world order or other nonsense I joined this campaign because I believe in liberty and freedom. I joined it because I want to eliminate the income tax and end the war in Iraq. I joined it because I believe that people should be responsible for themselves and not the government.

You're missing the point

This isn't just about the Ron Paul campaign - it's about ensuring that the voting system itself is fair and accurate. Do a little research on the Diebold machines that are used to count the votes and with very little effort you should be able to find the reasons why this is so important.

There is no more important issue, when you get down to it, than ensuring that the elections themselves are fair, tranparent and just. Without that, you don't live in a democracy, and it's that which is fuelling this recount.

I donated to it because the technology which has been introduced in recent years moves us backwards instead of forwards. What's wrong with paper ballots, counted in full view of the public? Surely it's better to be right than quick, and if this investigation shows serious errors then that's a major tick in favour of the class action lawsuit currently underway to remove all this suspect technology and get the voting system itself back to where it should be.

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Live Free or Die - Amen to that

Here's A Friendly Reminder

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Voter Fraud? Freedom of Speech? Police State Mentality?

etc., etc

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

Everyone is not viewing the official campaign website

Dr. Paul is against a recount.

He is smart for saying that

By giving that statement, MSM cannot comeback and attack him if we cannot find the proof of vote fraud. You gata know how to play the political chess. Thats why you call it politics,never show your whole card. Never tell your wife about your girl friend if you want to stay with her, I will guaranteed you that your marriage will be over if you did. Same with 911 truth, its smart for him to dismiss it. chip in money for recount and support Ron Paul

BEWARE OF PLANTS!!

This voter fraud must be fought by any means necessary. What is at stake here is just as important, if not more so, that getting Paul elected! My position on this will NEVER change and that is why I have pledged $1000 to this extremely important recount. Let us save the Republic!!

DONATE GENEROUSLY TODAY!!

Huh? Go drink some kool-aid

Seriously, you're out of your tree.

This is such a waste of money and time

This is such a waste of money and time its not even funny...

What a great idea! Lump us in with Kucinich...Ug...so now we can look even more crazy.

Thats a substantial amount of money already raised for a recount...why not put that money towards Newspaper, TV, & Radio ads in various super Tuesday states?

LOOK FORWARD! NOT BACKWARD PEOPLE!!!

Another Plant

Obviously. Fraud must be fought by any means necessary. What is at stake here is just as important, if not more so, that getting Paul elected! My position on this will NEVER change.

What the hell is a Plant?

What is a Plant?

Garrett3000 not a plant

He reminds me more of a weasel.

So Then This (Recount) Is Over?

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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I can see that RON PAUL has divorced himself from closer examination of facts and figures (the numbers) in Iowa and New Hampshire // so that means that this recount effort is over, isn't that right?

It certainly would be nice if the playing field was as HONEST as I believe RON PAUL is, and his outlook on the world is; unfortunately, I believe there are truly really bad people out there in the world that are greedy and sneeky and skillful and capable of all kinds of bad things -- even when it comes to taking advantage of an honest person.

I know we all must respect our man's wishes (and I sincerely do) BUT DAMN when (??) will this good against evil ever get a fair playing field if we continue to accept the odds stacked against us as they surely are.

Don't you just think that all the questionable history of those lousy Diebold machine use and the rumors of what got all this started in the first place and those related rumors of GWB stealing the earlier election process away from the People -- might be reason for serious concern here, folks.

Not trying to stir up a hornet's nest -- Just wanting what's fair to be fair (for both sides fair). I don't see how something like that can be a wrong thing to ask for.

So...

Instead of using the money for the campaign, or better yet at the grassroots level, we should piss it away on a recount in an election that we have ZERO chance of winning?

I think it'd be much better used if the money went to campaign ads in small local newspapers. Then again people on this website also think everything is a vast conspiracy against Ron Paul...maybe I should start drinking the Kool-Aid that everyone else is and see the world through Ron Paul glasses...

RECOUNT

Dear Sir and fellow supporter of Ron Paul. If we except each other as we are, without name calling it would serve us all well. You believe on 911 the buildings fell the way the government and media said they did. I will not hold it against you for supporting this conspiracy theory. The recount is not to look back and say we won it is to show that it was done with error and that it must be corrected for the future. So we are looking ahead by learning from the past and applying the fixes that are needed. If the vote tallying is really broken then no one's vote counts for anything. Can you agree with this?

Best wishes to you. Keep on supporting Ron Paul he is supported by many from all walks of life ad does not need to separate himself from any. He has the support because of what you said. Why you support him is why I support him. If I am in a looney bin it is not a reflection on Ron Paul and his goals and message. He said it best at the last debate... Why are you even asking me about my supports beliefs.. They can believe what they want I do not believe 911... Can I please get in the debate and talk about the issues.. OK Paraphrased but that is what I think he said or got across in the end.. The question was BS and I am sick of this kind of politics...

Free market

Remember, its a free market. Many people are donating to this because they want a recount for their own purposes. Maybe they want their pet conspiracy to be vindicated, maybe they just curious. Not everyone donating to this would necessarily be donating to the official campaign. This is the truly amazing thing about this election. The free market has finally be opened up in campaigns. Never before would the average joe ever think about donating to fund a recount requested by a candidate who got 41 votes.

But they are, it awesome to watch. No reason to tell people "oh you should be spending your money somewhere else" They are spending it exactly where they want to, where they feel their money is doing what they want their money to do.

If Only...

If I could recomend your post I would ..

As I posted above...

This isn't just about the Ron Paul campaign - it's about ensuring that the voting system itself is fair and accurate. Do a little research on the Diebold machines that are used to count the votes and with very little effort you should be able to find the reasons why this is so important.

There is no more important issue, when you get down to it, than ensuring that the elections themselves are fair, tranparent and just. Without that, you don't live in a democracy, and it's that which is fuelling this recount.

I donated to it because the technology which has been introduced in recent years moves us backwards instead of forwards. What's wrong with paper ballots, counted in full view of the public? Surely it's better to be right than quick, and if this investigation shows serious errors then that's a major tick in favour of the class action lawsuit currently underway to remove all this suspect technology and get the voting system itself back to where it should be.=========================
Live Free or Die - Amen to that

REP. RON PAUL AGAINST A RECOUNT

January 12, 2008
New Hampshire Recount?

After a careful investigation, I have decided against seeking a recount in New Hampshire. I am confident that not asking for a recount is the right decision.

I carefully considered the arguments for and against a recount before instructing my campaign staff not to pursue it. Without a firm belief that vote fraud had taken place, and without the possibility that a recount would have increased the chances for success of our campaign, a recount would have diverted campaign resources, time, and energy away from crucial battles elsewhere.

We have taken concerns about vote fraud seriously. In Iowa, campaign volunteers carefully monitored the caucuses. Campaign staff placed Paul supporters in every precinct to watch and verify the voting and count. We had supporters phone in results from their precincts to a campaign hotline while others ensured that those numbers were reflected on the official display board at the Polk County Convention Center. The numbers our caucus watchers reported agreed with the official tally, and both results also aligned with the campaign’s internal polling. In relatively pro-Paul counties, our sampling pegged support at 11.5%. This is consistent with an overall 10% finish for the entire state.

In New Hampshire, while I would have hoped for a better result than eight percent, I am convinced that vote fraud played no role in this result. Rumors of vote fraud were investigated, and in the end they proved to be the result of errors in early media reports that were not reflected in the official numbers. In one notable case, when a campaign staff member contacted an individual who had on the evening of January 8 claimed that his vote had not been counted, the person said that he had made a mistake and that the next morning the error in reporting on a newspaper website had been corrected both in the media and -- most importantly -- in the official tally.

Many have expressed concerns that those ballots counted by machine yielded a 2% lower total than those counted by hand. However, machine counted vote totals were more than 2% lower for both John McCain and Mike Huckabee. Hand counted votes were more likely to be cast in rural areas. Results almost always vary between urban and rural areas.

My campaign staff and I have analyzed the numbers in New Hampshire and I have reached the conclusion that it was the high turnout -- not vote fraud or counting errors -- that left us with eight percent of the vote. Our total vote count of over 18,000 votes was well within what we projected given the efforts of our extensive statewide get-out-the-vote program, giving me no reason to believe that vote fraud played any role in the results of the Granite State's primary.

In both Iowa and New Hampshire there is much to be proud of. Taking both states together, I am honored that over 30,000 people cast their vote for me -- more than either Rudy Giuliani or Fred Thompson. Unlike many other candidates’ efforts, our campaign for freedom is growing and our message is spreading.

Now is the time to redouble our efforts. Our resources must be spent on the upcoming primaries and caucuses, and on ensuring that, with your help, we organize every state yet to vote with our Precinct Leaders program.

We can't win primaries and caucuses that have already happened -- but we can win those yet to come. To become the Republican presidential nominee, a candidate must have 1,191 delegates. Iowa, Wyoming and New Hampshire determined only 32 delegates, so we have much opportunity remaining.

Today, I ask you to join me in focusing on the battles ahead as we continue our fight for liberty and our Constitution.

Sincerely,

Ron Paul

http://ronpaul2008.typepa...

If you have contacts in New Hampshire

Please contact them and ask them to volunteer to witness the vote count. Also we need to make sure we get a number for each candidate, not just Albert

Remember...

In NH the law says there must be PAPER ballots to back up the machine count. So that is what they will be counting. When a candidate asks for a recount he can be present and have others with him. I have done this before. Fortunately the one I took part in came out with the machines having counted 100% correctly.

Money needed to house family

Since Albert Howard and his wife and 8 children will be coming to stay in NH with him, they need money for that too.

To Jane

While your imput is appreciated ( sometimes) please note on your messages that the Warriors Chip in is funding this and that donations should be sent to that fund so a complete transparent view can be had by people donating. You seem to have made several posts advising sending the funds directly to Howard? This is not the way we need to do this. We need to be able to account for every dime of donations which cannot be done if private donations are sent directly to Mr. Howard. Eric is working very hard to keep every thing open and above board and we do not want to have anyone worry about where their money was spent.

Granny Warrior
www.grannywarriors.com

CANT GRANNIE WARRIORS redirect these funds??

Someone please correct me if I am wrong. I understand that a minor republican candidate (who signed up to run JUST FOR THIS REASON) *is* funding the republican recount - in fact has... he only had to pay $2,000 since he received less than 3% of the vote...
Now since we DONT need the recount monies and its useless anyway as the CAMPAIGN has to file for recount, not an individual... we cant do it for Dr. Paul..
Cant these monies be spent for the ADS mentioned here???
Grannie Warriors should in essence send the monies to these guys for ad time...

The Recount Will Cost At Least $65,000 Not $2,000 Only

RSK If your vote total is within 3 percentage points of the Primary winner, it only costs $2,000 total. Any other scenario, you are required to pay the full amount of which the minimum is $65,000.