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Veterans Disarmament Act signed into Law Jan 8

HR 2640, Or the 'Veterans Disarmament Act', Signed by the President, January
8, 2008 and became Public Law.
Troublesome because HR 2640 will deny thousands of American combat veterans
the right to possess, own and carry a firearm. This bill strips Americas
finest of their rights under the Second Amendment of the United States
Constitution, THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. There is a reason why Ron Paul has
more financial support from the military and veterans than any other
Republican Presidential candidate. Ron Paul, a lone voice, strongly opposed
this bill.

Letter of public record: WALTER A. MURRAY, JR.
Attorney at law
July 25, 2007
Senator John Barrasso

RE: HR 2640
Dear Senator Barrasso:

It is troublesome that I feel compelled to write this letter. Troublesome
because HR 2640, as I read it, will deny thousands of American combat
veterans the right to possess, own and carry a firearm. This bill strips
Americas finest of their rights under the Second Amendment of the United
States Constitution, THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS.

While at the Veterans Hospital at Ft. Meade a few weeks ago, I was
approached by five Vietnam Veterans who were waiting for their group session
to start(PTSD). One of the Veterans knew I was an attorney and had been a
judge in Wyoming. The question put to me was would they lose their Second
Amendment Rights under HR 2640. It was lucky that I had read portions of
this bill so I could give them a tentative answer. That answer was "You
probably will loose your rights under the Second Amendment". Four of the
five men had concealed weapons permits, three from South Dakota and one from
Wyoming. The fifth gentlemen was an avid hunter and owned rifles.
Concealed weapons permits issued by the State of Wyoming are done after an
exhaustive Federal, State, and local records and back ground checks. I have
been told that South Dakota goes through the same back ground checks as
Wyoming.

I could go through HR 2640 in this letter in great detail, but I know you
have or will screen this bill with a fine tooth comb, so I will direct the
remainder of this letter to my 38 years dealing with people suffering from
PTSD and those not. As you know I have been a private attorney, part time
court commissioner and part time Juvenile Court Referee in California. In
Wyoming I have been a private attorney, a prosecutor, a County Court Judge,
and a Senior Assistant Public Defender.

I have testified in court on the issue of a persons mental state. Due to
the nature of my profession I have read much on dysfunctional psychology as
well as observing this issue first hand. It has been my experience that
those suffering from PTSD are no more likely to do harm to themselves or to
others than a "normal" person. In fact, those suffering from PTSD and have
sought help are less likely to do harm to themselves or others than "normal"
folks.

This bill is a double blow to those with PTSD. The 83,000 veterans diagnosed
with PTSD, never given due process, had their names added to the Brady
Instant Check Data Base to prevent these veterans from buying guns. HR 2640
will by law prevent this class of people from buying, owning or possessing
guns. More names of veterans will be added to this list with the billion
dollars called for in the bill.

I would request that you consider the harm this bill will do to law abiding
citizens who have served their country and now suffer from PTSD. A no vote
seems to be the only vote appropriate for this bill.

If you have any questions do not hesitate to call me.
Sincerely,
Walter A. Murray, Jr.
Attorney At Law

January 8, 2008

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the soldiers

are expendable oversea's in combat like in Iraq, but at home, they can't even own a weapon! This is pathetic! I'm with recalling and impeachng ANYONE who voted for this crap. Our soliders DESERVE better than what they are getting....Has Ron Paul made a statement on this piece of trash law?

The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. James Madison

Can someone summarize this

situation in a paragraph or less?

If any one was wondering if we were becoming a fascist state...

Seriously....

Every politician who voted "Yea" to that bill should be tried for treason or at least impeached and run out of town as a traitor.

There is never any excuse for a bill like this. I can't believe that this site is the first place I've heard about this.

LT Jon Bjorgaard.

Congressional Pay Raise

Congress just voted to raise their own pay. Can someone tell me what the bill was called and who voted for it. If any of the candidates did, we need to make sure everyone knows it.

Bad news

This is bad, really bad and only the beginning. We need to wake up people sooner than later because it is only a matter of time before the rest of us are disarmed. I knew this was coming down the pipe and have warned others to act, but to see it written here is stunning.

That's why I dont go to VA

That's why I dont go to VA hospital.

Let the troops know what

they are fighting for. Then let's talk about BLOWBACK!

Is somebody making this up?

Why was this not brought by the campaign?

it's true, sorry

no, not made up, just passed into law January 8, 2008. I have been writing my reps about this, for quite awhile, to no availe. They are a sneaky bunch. Check GOA's web site. I will contact HQ, maybe they don't know yet.

no ...its real google it ....

Summary
http://www.govtrack.us/co...
Text of Law
http://www.govtrack.us/co...
RP response on house floor
http://www.govtrack.us/co...

google..... like i said ;)
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"The time is near at hand which we must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves."

George Washington
First President of the USA.
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Thank you veterans

Thank you for fighting, here's your 2nd class citizenship