Thank You RON PAUL -- Words From A 9/11-Truther (ME)
Posted January 11th, 2008 by JerryB9105
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Sir, you are a gentleman 'First Class' // You have my respect and admiration for your issues and my continued and complete support for your endeavor becoming our next President -- to that end you have my vote in the coming election; and as I've said elsewhere in this forum, you are certainly Heaven-sent, and truly America's only hope.
I realize that the subject-line (above) may cause some to turn the channel -- and that's certainly their right and I do respect that -- but you see I am a 9/11-truth seeker and also a strong admirer and supporter of the issues that comprise your campaign efforts. I am that and more and all at the same time. The reason I write this morning is I wanted to comment on something you said in yesterday's South Carolina Debate as regards this matter:
-- First allow me to say that 'shifty-eyed' and 'lesser known' FOX News representative certainly took 'liberties' (and a darn good word that is) when he asked you a repeated question about the many supporters you have that come from the 9/11 truth movement. Now I know I am not quoting exactly here, and please forgive me for that but his question was completely inappropriate and clearly biased and hostile and should never have been asked and it certainly came about as no spur of the moment off-the-cuff attack upon you. It was planned in advance to discredit you, to associate you with 'a group' that some among us find confused and troubling.
It was obvious from the very asking that its intent was to paint you in an unfavorable corner, and yet, sir, you handled yourself like a true champion in response, saying you have no control over what people might think, that you personally don't subscribe to the 9/11 theories, and at the same time don't feel it is your place to try and make anyone think one way or the other on the subject. Thank you for that.
FOX News showed their biased-hand (dirty-fingernails and all) towards you when they omitted you from their table at a recent debate they sponsored.
And I know I don't need to remind you of this as you know this better than anyone, but it showed disrespect to you, then, as it showed disrespect and contempt to all of us that support your campaign, not all of which add up to be 9/11-truth seekers.
To FOX and those they truly represent it doesn't matter, they have an agenda to spread and that agenda does not include YOU or the American people that support YOU in any shape, form, or fashion. Not good them doing that to YOU (not good them doing that to us).
That 'shifty-eyed' FOX News representative that asked you that 'loaded' question only served to remind me that our individual rights (our freedom of thought, our freedom of speech) are constant targets by those that would seek to have it otherwise. In that regard, their question failed.
I am reminded of mob mentality where a faceless, nameless, certainly not blameless, VOICE might be heard SHOUTING from the back of an angry group -- SHOUTING in effort to direct that group in what can only at times best be described in opposition of good common sense. Sometimes that VOICE can be heard calling for a rope to hang the guilty bastard -- a VOICE with no concern for law, no respect for order -- just mob mentality directed by an evil that hides in the shadows and SHOUTS to be heard.
-- Well, I say FOX News can go find its own damn rope.
We (many of us, 'truthers' not the exception here) have been wise to their 'mob mentality tactics' for quite sometime.
I'm a 9/11-truther (the truth be known) and I support RON PAUL for President. One has nothing to do with the other.
Vote RON PAUL 2008.
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I'm sorry but you're
I'm sorry but you're chopping up your paragraphs with slashes and it just makes me hate you, and want to kill you.
To TURPITUDE
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Thanks, you are right about me chopping up my paragraphs. Don't know why I do that, it does make it harder to read, harder to understand. I get your point. I went back and tried to fix the postings in hopes that you might change your mind about 'killing' me. That's funny (??) you saying that, but it's also a bit scary and a bit weird. Smile.
It's like they were trying to make RP look like a cult leader.
What's next? "Candidates, tell your people they can't support you unless they sign an affidavit swearing they believe Oswald killed JFK!"
about 'truthers'
first off i like your open letter to uh... fox news and RP. a long read but good sentiment.
Its a shame that questioning 9/11 even now is such a vile topic amongst popular opinion, at least in the political sense. Your right about one thing, everytime fox omits ron paul, they omit the current statistical 10% of us republican/independent voters who've voted for him.
A note about 'truthers', If anyone presented all of the coincidences and happenstances that occurred that day, not to mention a few months prior leading up to that day, theyd be a food NOT to question the story. the rhetoric seared into the minds of the masses has clearly shown that there shall be no questioning of the official story and the rest of us are clowns, and it is unfortunately to our own folly.
My continuing thoughts on the subject
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Hi there. Wanted to say I appreciate many of your remarks as regards the 'idea' that it has somehow become WRONG to even discuss such topics as this. I like what many of you have said in this regard. And for you that think otherwise, my intent was to express gratitude towards RON PAUL and not turn this into a 9/11 debate.
As I explained in this opening thread, I don't see how concern for TRUTH has anything negative to do with supporting RON PAUL one way or the other.
I personally drive a Honda car but that's my choice; and a lot went into me making that decision and for me to shell out the $$ to get that car. In other words, I didn't do it based upon which way the wind was blowing that day, I did some research on the subject and then made what I considered to be the best decision. We each have reason(s) why we do or why we believe the things we do, and yet because of that, it's not always such a major obstacle where we might not otherwises be able to join in thought with someone just because they happen to drive another type of automobile; nor do we find it impossible to discuss (intelligently) when it comes to preference in a sports team we bond with.
THOSE KIND OF SILLY THINGS DON'T DICTATE WHO WE ARE.
Not unless we allow it to do that; and those that do allow it are oftentimes a bit lame-brained, I think.
To start HATING a person just because they choose a Honda over a Ford. That'd be lame-brained; the same goes for HATING a person just because they choose a chocolate shake over the vanilla taste. What I'm trying to say is there are many reasons we choose the way we do. Sometimes it just boils down to preference and it's no big deal one way or the other; and then other times it's because we have put some serious not always easy thought behind the choices we make, choices which we sometimes can find ourself no longer part of the 'in crowd' as to certain beliefs we hold. Religion and politics are two biggies in that regard.
And as it is when it comes to the subject of 9/11 -- it's become an entirely different animal; some people become angry at the messenger and just don't want to hear a damn thing about it. They go out of their way to find fault in any person that would even remotely entertain such 'wild' thoughts. FOX News tried to make it that (they are the ones that tried to make it a subject for discussion) when it was completely inappropriate them doing that; coming from left field it attempted to single RP out as it had nothing at all to do with the topics then being discussed. It took a man of intelligence (RON PAUL) to politely but firmly remind FOX News of this; upon which time RP did return to the topic being discussed as the others stood smiling on stage.
As you will surely recall, later in the debate RON PAUL was interrupted in mid-stream (in mid-speech) by yet another FOX News representative simply because the person didn't agree with the remarks being made by RP. There was some discussion back and forth (some loud laughs heard coming from the FOX News table) after which RON PAUL completed his thoughtful message regarding Iran, etc. This ended with a smiling ROMNEY beginning his own remarks by making an 'off-color' joke aimed entirely at RON PAUL's expense to which a visibly angry RP answered under his breath:
-- 'Laugh it up, buddy!'
Is it just me or have you also noticed that at the end of these debate sessons the folks standing on stage seem to distance themself from our hero, as they turn and leave him standing pretty much alone as they reach to shake hands with each other and congratulate themself for the outstanding job they each did in spreading their lies?
Well, RON PAUL isn't alone on that stage. There are hundreds of thousands of us watching and listening and supporting him and his issues.
Vote RON PAUL 2008 and help take back our wonderful country from the gangsters and lame-brained that would have us lock step right off the cliff as they continued to smile and shake hands and congratulate each other in the doing of it.
LOL!!
Thank you for the much needed humor.
Truthers
I dislike that label too.
The thing is "Truthers", many folks are still not ready to hear that and it's a detriment to the campaign, like it or not, that's the truth.
I am a skeptic by nature and RP nut, it took me awhile to even consider that.
It's like finally breaking the news to your kid that there really is no Santa Claus. Tell them too early and it'll completely blow their minds. Maybe that's part of my problem, I woke up too early and walked in on my mom and dad eating Santa's cookies under the Christmas tree, naked!
Yikes!
Please delete this whole
Please delete this whole stupid, un-useful thread.
and flag it.
9-11
maryj
I am a 9-11 truther also.
I am sure just as those involved in the action to take out the twin towers are sure that when President Paul takes office ****after we elect him *****that we will have a friendly ear in his administration.
An honest investigation will take place and that is one of the many reasons that fox (ignore the facts) to get along with their handlers.
It's not the simple...
I don't think it's a simple as you believe or you don't. The problem with that mentality is that it makes people either say "No I don't believe any of it, it's exactly as the official story says".. But it's not like those who investigate or question it all go "George Bush" did it!!!!.
I think it's more of a common gray area and what attracts this subject to people is how all the events and explainations do not add up. I can go into my own personal views on this issue, but publically I will say that I have seen tons of things to question, like the obvious omission of WTC-7 in the Commission book.
However it's lets remember that it is all a ploy to divide us and make us lose our common goal of supporting Ron Paul.
My BIGGEST Pet Peeve with "Truthers" are the militant idiots that jump in peoples face and scream "9/11 was an inside job!!!" Or they jump in people face and say" He's a member of the CFR therefore he's the devil!!!".
What good does that do? Seriously what good does it do to be an asshole and yell at some drone in a monkey suit? If anything it furthers people slanted view of "truthers" being raving maniacs..
People need to be intelligent about this stuff, but again don't let it divide us, question EVERYTHING let alone 9/11. The mainstream is just scared because they never saw this coming...
Regards,
David F
www.myspace.com/asymptote
The only thing I dislike about 9/11 truthers....
is the term "9/11 Truthers".
Let's face the truth.... A person is either a truth-seeker, or they are not. There's no in-between, and 9/11 has nothing to do with it.
In relation to 9/11, either a person doesn't want to know the total truth about what happened, and thus hides behind an irrational cover story, or they want to know the total truth, and thus have questions. The former is not a truth-seeker, the latter is a truth-seeker. The only relevance of 9/11 is that it's an issue charged with fear and emotion more than any other, thus it tests to the limit a person's commitment to truth. A lot of people who considered themselves truth-seekers found their limit, and decided to retreat, because truth-seeking suddenly became too dangerous and damaging to the psyche.
So let's all at least be honest enough to drop the 9/11, and just recognize that a person either wants and lives truth, or not.
It was FOX
It was FOX who first tried to associate Paul with the Truthiers at beginning of his rising campaign.
FOX of course you know is still at it.
Basically Smear Jobs!
Let's face it
"It was FOX who first tried to associate Paul with the Truthiers at beginning of his rising campaign."
Truthers are all over the internet, with their support for RP and their wacky theories. Fox never needed to associate the truthers with Paul as they did it themselves. Paul needs to distance himself as he did last night saying he does not agree with them.
Why are we so scared to talk
Why are we so scared to talk about it. Since everyone seems to trust Zogby in their polls so much, have we overlooked these polls??
http://www.zogby.com/sear...
http://www.zogby.com/feat...
http://www.zogby.com/news...
Im sure this post will get flagged. Seems like everything does around here.
Well, I am not sure if I am a truther or not...
but with all of the preposterous shit that is going on in this country, I am not sure anything can be ruled out. The truth does deserve some respect.
Since the campaign has asked for suggestions...
It would be nice to turn this around on the establishment. Ron Paul has talked about the need for more openness and transparency in government, and he should rightly point out that an atmosphere of secrecy and executive privilege create an environment that causes conspiracy theories to grow and fester. If they have nothing to hide, they certainly create an awful lot of doubt and give rise to these theories just by the way they handle themselves.
The arguing is pathetic (and yet here I go about to argue back)
Who is anyone to tell people what to believe, and what not to believe? I'm SO sick of seeing people argue on this board. Can't we forget our differences and focus our energy toward getting Dr. Paul elected? So what if there are truthers, they're (we're) entitled to their (our) opinions. You don't see us attacking you because you refuse to recognize the truth. Have you seen Loose Change? Have you done any research? If not, then who are you to say what you know as the truth. I don't bring 9/11 up often because I do not want to hurt Dr. Paul's campaign, but I'm so tired of the truthers being slammed. I'm JUST as normal as any one of you. I work very hard at an investment bank (yes, I know, but I need to earn a living), I have two cats and a dog, I exercise, read often, shop, go to the movies. Do you see my point? I am completely normal. Look, I was in the first tower when it was hit. I don't mention that to make myself look important because by no means am I. I mention it because 9/11 is an extremely important issue in my book, for obvious reasons it hits very close to home for me. If you don't like what I believe FINE, but stop attacking me like I'm some kind of freak. Because the truth is, if I never said one word about 9/11, you probably would think I'm the most normal, level headed person you've met. (and by 'attacking me' I mean me and my fellow truthers).
9/11 "truther"
A 9/11 "truther" I am not, I don't have enough facts ..... but a 9/11 skeptic, count me in. Do I know all the facts? No. Does the main story answer all the questions? Nope. Do we need more investigations? Yes.
And on that score, I believe Dr. Paul is a 9/11 skeptic like me and, MOST Americans.....Dr Paul said that he believes that the 9/11 report was like many such "investigations" a white washing by government of its own ineptness. That is enough for me.
Treg
you are not alone
www.PatriotsQuestion911.c...
Divide and Rule...
It's an easy tactic where they want to make Ron Pauls base fight amongst each other, and/or feel "betrayed" by Ron Paul. If you got suckered into this then you need to re-evaluate your stance.
Ron Paul is the only chance we have to take this country back. you have a right to question 9/11 and everything else under the sun, since when is it wrong to question something?
I find it interesting how they are so focus'd on dismissing 9/11 and selling to the masses that there is somehow a dangerous group of crazies, when in reality it's just average americans questioning the official version..
Don't let the media trick you, EVERYONE regardless of your view on 9/11 need to embrace and fight for Ron Paul.. DO NOT LET THEM TEAR US APART!!!!!
Regards,
David F
www.myspace.com/asymptote
Obviously -- It Was A Question
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But certainly not an appropriate question WHEN ALL OF US ALREADY KNOW (yourself included) what RON PAUL's campaign issues are // 9/11 is not one of them.
There is no way he can be directly responsible for me or for you or for anybody that supports his efforts. And that's the point here.
The question was formed for him to put his head in the noose, to hold the rope with one hand while he stood on the soap box that THEY THINK all us 9/11 folks search for. Well they got it wrong.
And remember I'm a truther also // and you have to honestly be a serious one in order to know what that truly means //
RON PAUL knows what he's doing. They don't think so, but he does.
-- We want HIM as our President.
Leave it at that.
Betcha
Live Free Or Die
every candidate has at least some truthers in support of them. Why are they not called for it. Oh, that's right.
Stop advertising it
yeah yeah, you're a truther. Now take Paul's advice, and keep it to yourself from now on. Advertising it hurts Paul's campaign.
You Miss The Point Entirely
Vote RON PAUL 2008
I have a close friend who is pro choice
Her voting decision is based on that one issue.
We are fighting for freedom.
Freedom is FOR EVERYONE.
Your issue or her issue or their issues divide you from the central point. FREEDOM.
Needing to have your issue validated by others is not the game here.
I really have to stretch when I think that we are fighting for Hannity and Cavuto and all of these people who are fighting us now, but, we are because this is about everyone.
I heard it said somewhere
I heard it said somewhere that "I might not agree with what you say, but I will fight like heck to defend your right to say it"
The way I look at it is...
Even if Ron Paul doesn't in anyway think that 911 was an inside job–he fights for individual rights. SO unlike the current administration he would not get in the way of anybody trying to find the truth...know what I mean.
EXACTLY
EXACTLY
Dude...
Did you not hear Paul's advice to you in the debate? Stop talking about 9/11 truth and being a 9/11 truther. It's hurts his campaign. If you want to support him fine, but just don't reveal you're a truther. People see that Paul has 9/11 truther supporters and it make the average person want to get as far away as possible, including seeing it here on dailypaul.
So either you believe in one 911 conspiracy
or you believe in RP?
Believe what you want
You can believe that your dog is god. It doesn't matter what you believe. It matters who you tell what you believe WHILE you are representing Ron Paul. I put a sign on the backwindow of my car about Ron Paul. In doing so, I also drive a LOT better than normal. I don't cut people off, or flip them off if they piss me off. I am representing Ron Paul! Believe what you want, but keep it to yourself OR in a private forum not linked to Paul.
And To That Bit Of Wisdom I Say
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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You make it sound like I don't support RON PAUL because I don't drive around town with the same sign on my car as you // Well that's your narrow-minded opinion. And you might want to take your own advice and STOP GIVING ME THE FINGER just because I pissed you off with my freedom of expression. This is a free country (yet) even if you don't think so -- Forum included.
I do support and represent RON PAUL // not that I feel a need to explain myself to the likes of you any further.
Sieg Heil :)
Misunderstanding
I wasn't talking to you. I was responding to "So we believe in 911 or we believe in Ron Paul?" above me. I was letting them know they didn't need to believe in one or the other, they just shouldn't MIX one and the other. It was not even directed to you.
I Am Terribly Sorry For That
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Hard for me not to take serious something this truly important to our country (both issues // the RON PAUL for president & the 9/11 thing) //
I know I get extremely passionate (even angry at times) because of it. Especially at those perhaps 'well-intentioned' but 'misguided' folk out there that think otherwise.
I do apologize for jumping to conclusions in your case -- for allowing myself to do that there is no excuse.
I am sorry. That sieg heil was childish and mean spirited as well, sorry for that too :-(
I would go back and DELETE IT but the post has been flagged.
Too Late to Apologize....too late
I'm kidding. I love that song, though. No problem. I can relate with the whole anger department. I was so angry at how they were treating Dr. Paul last night that I was nearly hyperventalating. It's safe to say that I haven't been that furious in a looooong time. It's also safe to say that I'd probably be in prison if there wasn't a tv between me and the talking shit heads. At some points I felt like I stepped outside myself and was in a place without time/space. In my mind, I could see Dr. Paul reach the end of his rope, turn to the other LAUGHING candidates (how childish) and set them straight once and for all. He did excellent last night, but I still would love to see him go more on the offense. He has so much that he could crush them with! I read a quote a little while back that I am going to live by:
When it becomes impossible for peaceful revolution, violent revolution is inevitable.
We'll see if it will ever have to come to that. Jefferson said that we need a revolution at every generation. We are long over due and America is probably just as bad as England was. Ron Paul has igniting a storm of revolution and if he loses (by them not being fair) then I believe the next level is absolutely neccessary. America will be doomed anyway.
Don't Call Me Dude // More Importantly Don't Tell Me What To Do
Vote RON PAUL 2008
Since when did pursuing the truth became perceived as bad?
So the "truthers" that exposed Watergate were bad?
WTF is wrong with this country?
The problem is that Joe and
The problem is that Joe and Sally six pack who believe everything the lamstream media tells them.. will not warm up to Ron Paul if they think that there friends will make fun of them if they want to vote for Ron Paul.. Truthers... keep quiet.... you will be vindicated in the end! but for now just keep your views and thoughts to yourself.. a year from now all hell will break lose. isn't it worth a wait of 1 year to finally know the truth about 911, possibly JFK etc? With Ron Paul there will be no more secrets!
It's not bad...just the timing is bad
Americans are real touchy about 9/11. If you accuse anyone other than the hijackers or Bin Laden (of which there is still no evidence) of perpetrating the act, people get really squeemish. It is a courtesy to RP, his supporters that are NOT 9/11 truthers. It's called respect. Believe me, there are a lot of things that I could say about the government or whatever after 5 years in the military with a top secret clearance, but I know that it would be disrespectful. So I DON'T. What's wrong with this country is that people have let their rights go to their fucking head. Yeah, we have rights and priviledges, but we also have others around us who may not like what we're doing. Respect is a fickal thing. I smoke! But, I do not get upset when people don't want me smoking around them. WHY? Because I respect their RIGHTS!
Bottom Line:
You have the right to speak about 9/11 conspiracies all that you want, but in doing so if you know that it will hurt RP's chances of getting elected, are you really a supporter or a hinderer? Think about it. I am not exactly a 9/11 truther, but I do NOT believe what the government sold me. Yet, I speak about it THOSE forums and NOT in public when I representing Ron Paul. Hope you understand.
Sure
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The question was a real one
The way Fox works is corrupt, but if it was not a real question it would not be asked so much. What are the facts? RP would not be running if it was not for Alex Jones and all the 911 truthers who urged him to run (I heard it myself over the years), and also created the RP Revolution. These people were the origin and life of this revolution. It was not till later that non-911 truthers were convinced to support RP that their numbers started growing sometime after the 3rd quarter. People forget these facts because they were not around. Yes there have always been followers of RP who did not believe 911 conspiracy theories, but they cannot account as a major influence in RP running for president or for the Revolution taking off. 911 truthers are very active and there are hundreds of thousands of them who have been waiting for RP to run and were ready to back him when he ran. I was one of them.
The other facts of the matter are that this is no small issue: Either the Bin Laden conspiracy is true or it is not. RP has repeatedly claimed the official position in that respect is true. We must remember that he voted to make Bush the decider, and to go after all 911 conspirators. “That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons HE DETERMINES planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.” The key part is “he determines”.He voted against the patriot act but what he did vote for ended up being much worse than that act, because it was the patriot act world-wide: and that includes in the USA too. This is a huge fact as that action opened up all the doors to destroying the liberties of people world wide, and it also paved the way for the neocons to go forward with their plans. The neocons had published very specifically what they wanted to do a year before 911 (see PANAC). This was no supprise for people in politics that they were going to go forward with more wars and all that we see today. Thus a vote in that direction is very serious and needs to be looked at honestly.
RP has repeatedly appeared on Alex Jones's show very sympathetically over many years and Jones has always made 911 truth his biggest focus. Jones has been the biggest influence for RP by a longshot. It is therefore absurd for the media to ignore this connection. Jones has even claimed that RP had to lie about this subject: http://rpmgt.org/Jones.wm... Many on this forum have said the same thing. Enough supporters claim that RP had to lie because the public cannot handle the truth, so that it is actually a very important thing to ask. Because the RP Revolution is not just about love but about truth. The reason people are getting behind RP is because they believe they can trust him to always tell the truth. While the others engage in lying for their philosophies.
You have to have been around to notice the manner of conversation. On the AJ show you have constant exposure of the NWO and 911 conspiracy. RP always addressed Jones with respect and talked in agreement. Never was there any impression given from RP as he has recently given publically about 911 conspiracy. This is why so many of us were shocked when we heard him on G Beck and other shows say that such a conspiracy was unbelievable and crazy. Because he did not act that way with AJ. This did give the impression that he changed his mind. So naturally the media asked the question. And if he is lying about what he believes then naturally the media is going to pick on that point as it is a weakness to say the least.
So I do not find your reasoning to be sound or according to the facts. Fox may have acted like a fox but the question is real. If 911 was really an Bin Laden conspiracy then this WILL affect RP's policies here and yonder as it did with his vote and repeated statements about the Bin Laden. This gives some justification or support for the war on terror. This means that the public has no access to the supposed proof of such a conspiracy and has to believe it when contrary evidence exists to the public. This affects what we do with the troops and how we spend our money.
This is a fundamental issue that ties into almost every other major issue. These are fundamentally opposite conspiracy theories that have massive implications. It is no small mistake to be wrong on the major points. It is nice to say move along but this ignores all these facts. RP for president resulted because of 911 truth research. The media knows this. ABC owns Jones' GCN. The question was real.
Your wrong
With all due respect, you are wrong! The bottom line is this: The question has been asked over and over and over and RP answers it the same way every FUCKING time! Last night's questions were all setup to make RP look bad, period. There is no other way to see it. Try to look at it objectively for just one moment. You don't support any candidates; you just turned on the television and have no idea who they are. Questions being asked to EVERYONE (the same question) and then RP gets a curve ball. Okay, later they ask him another curve ball. This continues through the debate and into the bullshit focus group. The people say that RP was the worst. The two bastards that host the after show make comments about RP not winning the text poll. The fat one says that every candidate has a chance of winning except Ron Paul. Now, if I was a regular viewer and I wasn't following politics (kinda like before I heard about RP) and I was watching this debate, I would think that it was intentionally geared towards hurting the poor old guy on the far right (left if you're on stage). He was often the last to get a question in each series and his questions were often skewed to make him look bad. "So, sir, (GAG ME WITH YOUR FAKE RESPECT) you really don't think Bush should be in Israel right now, do you?" One more thing, that little fucking turd of a plastic governor Romney laughs like a bitch!
I am not a 9/11 truther, but I do suspect bullshit at 9/11. I have watched many documentaries and see definite evidence for a possible cover-up. However, I stopped focusing on 9/11 when RP came along because instead of despair and fear, I had fucking hope!!!! Please, all you 9/11 truthers be smart about this. Stop making public spectacles about 9/11; stop leaving blogs or forum posts about 9/11. Just drop it until RP gets in. They are throwing enough at him without us making it worse. Thanks!
MOSH!
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Am I a truther?
I just would like to say that I'm glad that somebody saw that ridiculous question for what it was. When the question was asked I thought to myself, "great... they just forced him to alienate a substantial amount of his supporters." As I'm sure you (and hopefully most other "truthers") know, although Ron Paul does not believe the government actually perpetrated the crime on 9/11 he does believe that the government caused the incident (ie. blowback). Furthermore, he has publically said that he supports a full investigation into the matter.
I would also like to say that anyone who believes the government wouldn't lie to us about what happened on 9/11 are probably those same people who are voting for McCaine... sheeple. I can't say that I 100% believe that the government was directly responsible for 9/11 however those who say that they're 100% sure the government didn't do it are even more irresponsible in their opinions than Rosie or any other 9/11 truther.
Am I truther because I want to know the truth? Since when has wanting to know the full truth become equatible with wearing tin foil hats? Well, I personally seek to learn the truth in any situation whether it be political or personal. I guess that makes me a life truther?
No he does not!
"he does believe that the government caused the incident (ie. blowback)"
NO he doesn't!! He believes that OBL caused it and why he supports going into Afgahanistan to get him.
He does not believe the government caused 9/11. Folks like you are why he gets these stupid questions in debates like he believes that the USA was responsible for 9/11 and worse he gets the perception from folks that are not familiar with him that he does believe EXACTLY what you said above "that the government caused the incident".
Truthers are not an asset to his campaign and Fox news tried to take advantage of that fact last night.
Now THAT was an intelligent and HONORABLE response!
Sir, my hat is off to you!
I am not one to buy into the 9/11 theory, but I certainly respect your position and those like you for your ability and FREEDOM to do so! That is at the very heart of what we are fighting for in this campaign-- FREEDOM in all its expressions-- freedom of choice, freedom of thought, freedom of expression, freedom of press, freedom of religion, freedom of taxation, freedom of government regulation, freedom of education, etc.
I also think Ron had a very sincere and eloquent response to what was blatantly a "hit" question. You just cannot get anything to stick on this man, he thinks sooooooo fast on his feet (with 30 years of practice, that is...lol). But it was nice to read YOUR response as someone who obviously 'could" have taken offense (even though not intended), but did not.
Again, my hat is off to you!
Interesting
A good read.
Duncan Hunter was not allowed to participate as well. In fact he has been out of the last three debates.
Paul of course deserves to be up there just as much as the rest.
I think america is starting to see what Fox is all about. I watched them for several years because I just couldn't stand CNN or any of the MSM. Now, I just can't stomach any of them.
Faux is trying to pick our republican nominee and I don't know if that is Rudy(hannity loves him) or Romney. They have become a big joke.
Good luck to you.
Well put...
and ditto!
it is a loaded question
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