Paul Focusing on Nevada
Submitted by skgai on Sat, 01/12/2008 - 00:05
It's apparent from his upcoming schedule that Paul is clearly focusing on Nevada. He's skipping Michigan and there's nothing set for South Carolina so I think he's making a stand in Nevada. He needs to focus his resources in one state to get a good finish so I like his strategy. I haven't seen a single poll for Nevada at all, which makes me think that the establisment and media believe there's trouble there and want to downplay it and focus on South Carolina. I'm Sure Ron knows he's got support in Nevada, I just hope it's alot of support. Do you guys agree with this strategy and does anyone know how candidates are faring there and if they're even campaigning there? Also, what are the rules for the Nevada caucus'? How do they vote? Like Iowa? Let's focus along with Ron and get him a win in Nevada.
I was at the Nevada Republican Assembly Straw Poll.
Dr Paul got 39% followed by McCain with 15%. When I walked in there were at least 20 people holding McCain signs. McCains organizer for the event came up and asked me "So who are you going to vote for after Ron Paul drops out?" I said, "Awful sure of yourself aren't you?" He replied "Well what do you think of McCain?" to which I replied "I have great appreciation for his willingness to stand and fight for his country...damned shame he didn't learn anything from the experience" he looked at me funny and I said "After the time he spent in a POW camp he comes back talking about how we should be doing the same thing to other countries? His stances on Medical Marijuana are draconian, he has absolutely no knowledge of economics, he seems to think overawed nationalism is a suitable replacement for common sense and a plan of action. Simply put I'd sooner vote for Hitlery".
Half of his supporters spent the rest of the night hanging out with us. Nevada looks good for Dr Paul :)
Nevada
Nevada has more delegates than SC... Get you slice RP.
www.ronpaul2008.com
There is life at the end of the tunnel my friends!
***********Ron Paul for POTUS 2012***********
*************Obama Is A Communist!************
**********Repeal the 17th Amendment**********
Double the size of the House of Representatives
$$$$$$$$$AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE$$$$$$$$$$
Ahh Hello!
Paul A Palooza 2008:
http://www.paulapalooza2008.com/
P.S. The Las Vegas Ron Paul Meet Up took over the Republican Central Committee in Clark County. We submitted and approved the rules for the caucus!
FINALLY!!!
I have been saying: focus on Nevada (same day as SC) and Maine (Feb.1) because all the other candidates will be in SC, and FL, and he really has no chance of attracting new voters there.
I wrote in my article how Mainers are gung-ho gun-lovers and anti-government (except the controlling elite in the cities) and Nevada people hate the government and taxes.
Florida is nothing but retired NYers, that's why Giuliani is there. Huckabee has SC because of the Evangelicals.
The supporters Ron has there are all the supporters he's going to get. Michigan is Romney's hometown and McCain has decided to dethrone him; we don't need that fight again.
Focus on the more Libertarian states.
Maine has a Ron Paul Libertarian Republican Legislator.
If he does well in these states it will be a major help on Feb. 5.
And, in 2004 it was this strategy that got Kucinich a speaking slot at the convention. Without these less-popular states and the later primary states, Kucinich never would have made it through!
Read:
http://natschultz.townhall.com/g/3a1dd1ba-5664-4af0-965f-228...
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
Stand on Gambling, Porn, Prostitution is a Strength for Paul
I am frankly getting tired of seeing DPers act like the brothel owner story is a negative for Ron Paul...especially considering that story will help him get the top spot in Nevada.
More than 84% of American men love their porn.
Do I have to repeat that?
More than 84% of American men love their porn.
Fox News and George Bush, and the "Moral Majority" and the feminists have all been playing with our minds on the airwaves the past 20 years.
More than 84% of American men love their porn.
Got that? If Ron Paul would start to openly defend his positions there, and maybe get interviewed by Playboy or Hustler soon, he could double his poll standings overnight.
"Christians", assuming they don't like porn themselves (which I doubt if they are male`), can handle the free speech part and support the candidate as usual anyway.
Source of Statistic?
I doubt that statistic is true. I would like to see the scientific poll that produced it. None of the men I know debase themselves to use pornography; it is sickening, debasing, addicting, vile. Maybe 84% of lurid sicko's love that poison, but not decent, family men.
Get a life.
do you 'love' porn?
I am a Christian conservative defender of the US Constitution. As such, I will defend the right to your liberty and free speech as long as it does not harm or impact my liberty, etc., but I still do not love porn.
In my opinion, social and individual involvement with porn is like a sexual welfare state. It only trains the recipient to "experience" sexual gratification without any real effort or personal expense or human interaction. It develops warped views of what is real and what is owed to them.
Why work when they will pay you if you don't? Why bother with improving yourself and investing time in an actual person when you can just click away the hours? Both are easy to acquire and the social stigma for indulging is non-existent for the ones who choose to partake.
Your post shows lack of understanding of Dr Paul's views on the subject... don't think for a second that he is in favor of such activity, he simply states that the Federal Government has no authority to stop anyone from doing what they want with their own lives. While he does not agree with or endorse their conduct, he will not tell them they cannot do as they choose... much like his response to the 9/11 Truther question.
I also sense a bias against "Christians" and your comments seem to betray your interest is self gratification rather than the good of others. A rather short sighted view of Liberty or Libertarianism IMHO.
wants are unlimited, means are scarce...
“Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.” - George Bernard Shaw
wants are unlimited, means are scarce...
I''m with you
totally... you could have the biggest slut run for president... men are not gonna vote for just cause they could...well you know..
All others are ignoring Nevada
Focus here and do well. Performing well in a state is very important. Get delegates. This looks like it is going to be a long haul. Nevada is the kind of state that is receptive to non-mainstream ideas. Coming here is a good idea,
This movement is becoming more important by the day. Just look at what happened in the past 24 hours with the shabby treatment at the debate, the excellent performance by Dr. Paul, and the subsequent buzz that this has generated.
There is something real happening here and it is getting hard to see it being stopped. I am just proud to be part of the dialog.
But in vain, I fear
Just like the national campaign staff was "focusing" on New Hampshire? And oh boy, didn't that turn out just swell!
Sorry for being so negative, and I may just get kicked out of the DP for saying this, but I have just about given up on this whole campaign. Not that I have given up on Ron Paul nor on his limited-government principles, not at all, but on the complete inadequacy and incompetence of the national staff. They are so completely out of their depth, they are not only wasting our money and our time, but destroying the best hope of seeing our country move back toward freedom in my lifetime.
I am done with giving national HQ the benefit of the doubt and hoping for the best, only to repeatedly see the worst. I would say "Fire them all!", but it's too late for that too. They are nothing but an unpulled anchor that has caused the USS Ron Paul to flounder and sink in the rising tide of the presidential campaign.
I have been uplifted and encouraged beyond words by the spirit, passion and hard work of the thousands and thousands of Ron Paul's supporters, but the national staff continue to negate and work against all of that spirit and passion. Call me a troll if you want, but I'm afraid Ron Paul's campaign is effectively over, and "bitter" does not begin to describe how I feel about that.
I have to say a few
I have to say a few things.
The constant critiques of the official campaign are tiresome.
Paul made his campaign staff choices. If you think he has done a bad job picking them why would he pick more important things once elected right?
That isn't to sensor criticism, but for the most part the problem is the press he gets. Having a good spin doctor might help, but I doubt it. He is so different from the others people don't get it, so they make fun.
It's all about the SPIN!!!
I'm serious.
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
Cheer up akak
Believe it or not, a lot of people haven't even really started paying that close attention to the presidential race. Especially those in later primary states. Most people wait until the parties have selected their candidate to pay attention anyway.
Plus, remember this campaign was originally conceived of as an educational campaign. And it IS succeeding!!. Ron Paul still has a shot at the white house, but what's even more important than RP becoming president is waking up America. Ron Paul has to stay in the race for that reason and he will - with our support.
A few months ago I hadn't heard of Ron Paul and now I'm a motivated supporter. Just think of all the freedom loving people out there who need to hear this message, who need to have their apathy cured.
So cheer up Akak. We are winning. Go out and talk to two new people every day. Make it part of your daily habit. Like brushing your teeth. The person in line at Starbucks. The woman in the elevator.
True, it's not all about winning
Aeneis,
Well, you make a good point about the educational aspects of the campaign. It's just that after having been active in the libertarian movement for over 25 years, I thought that maybe, for ONCE, this time there was a chance of success! Now, I feel like the national staff have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. But I have, over the years, "converted" a number of people, both liberal and conservative, to the limited-government, libertarian philosophy, and if this campaign succeeds in nothing else, then I guess it still might be worth it.
Poll-less in Nevada
Re: lack of polling in Nevada -- see these articles (both from the LV Sun):
Pollsters Have A Plan for Nevada: Skip It
and
Poll-less in Nevada
So, organizations who live and breathe for polling, suddenly find it not worthwhile to poll a particular state in an election cycle? Interesting...
LV Meet-up / Paul-a-Palooza folks -- what's your take on this?
If Dr Paul is "skipping" SC and MI
Then all of us need to step it up in those states for sure!
exactly
there are ways to reach people in those states: facebook, myspace, yahoo, chatrooms, dating sites, local news
let's spread the word for Ron Paul
Ron Paul will visit Nevada
Ron Paul will visit Nevada again early next week. Tentatively, he will be in Pahrump on Sunday, Reno on Monday, and Las Vegas on Tuesday.
Jan 13 Bob Ruud Community Center, 150 N Highway 160, Pahrump, NV
A Meeting with Nye County Republicans 7:00 - 8:30 PM PT
Jan 14 Reno, NV Campaign Events Details to follow shortly
Jan 15 Las Vegas, NV Campaign Events Details to follow shortly
3 days and only
3 events? Seems a bit odd to do Pahrump, then up to Reno and then back down to Vegas. Seems like he could at least organize a couple of short events in other sections, Ely or up your way. Maybe they will.
Last time I was in Vegas Ron Paul was tied in a poll for first
Last time I was in Vegas Ron Paul was tied in a poll for first that some local station did. I am not sure which one, this was late December.
I think Ron Paul is smart to make this his surge protector state.
Paul breaking the top 3 in
Paul breaking the top 3 in Nevada would be sweet. I've been hearing good things out of my hometown, Vegas too.
hey, run for delegate then!
remember, somebody has to be at your local caucus who is running as delegate for Paul
FYI I've seen 3 ads:
I usually watch TV from 4:30-6:30 and I see ads for Obama (the most), Hillary (not as many), and Ron Paul (a couple in those hours) - that's it. I'm in Vegas and I'm real anxious to see how the 19th goes.
look at this article...
http://www.lvrj.com/news/13285477.html
Mentions RP has been on the air longer than Romney, and no one else is. If Mitt Romney really has pulled everything since the time this article was written, we are the only GOP candidate in the state.
Quite frankly, I've been irritated every time I go to drudge I see the brothel owner talking about RP. But maybe we have a perfect storm brewing.
Northern Nevada
I have been attending the meetings of the Humboldt Republican committees here in Humboldt County. I was never interested in this until I became a supporter of Ron Paul. Myself and another supporter of Ron Paul started to attend the committee meetings. What we found out is the chairman among others are all for Mitt Romney. Nevada, years ago used to be part of the Utah territory. Must I say more... this is Mormon country. We have a uphill battle but were doing what we can along the I 80 corridor in northern Nevada.
John
of course, I had totally forgotten how
Nevada is as much Mormon country as Utah, at least in parts. Duh.
At the same time, I have assumed a certain affinity for libertarianism exists in Nevada, what with the mining and cattle ranching cultures.
Your assumption is correct,
"I have assumed a certain affinity for libertarianism exists in Nevada"
Your assumption is correct, but things have sure calmed down in the last 10 years or so. Nevada used to be, and in parts still is, a 24 hour party.
the problem is...
according to the poster from Winnemucca, that many Nevadans have no idea how the caucus will operate and that you have to gather people willing to run as delegates in each caucus. So if most people show up just to vote for a candidate and no one is there running as that candidate's delegate, you're screwed.
This education is very difficult to organize through all the decentralized groups with some assistance from HQ. I hope they are doing it.
Especially problematic since this is the first year Nevada has ever had the caucus system.
Yes you are right
The meet up groups in northern Nevada have contact with Andre Campos
AZ/UT State Coordinator. Andre has been very helpful.
The links below will give you a better idea on how the Nevada caucus is done.
Grassroots Training Video - Basic
http://www.vimeo.com/443216
Grassroots Training Video - Intermediate
http://www.vimeo.com/443806
Grassroots Training Video - Nevada Caucus Operations
http://www.vimeo.com/443824
password: nevada4ronpaul
John
Oh NO!
Well, if no ther Republican is prepared, great. Otherwise, Paul should hire a caucus specialist and do some mock caucuses with core supporters.
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
Go over to realclearpolitics.com
to see the most recent polls. There haven't any recent ones. Romney was surging there. But he has had to go dark to concentrate on michigan. Rudy has no money. McCain, Huckabee, and Thompson are all in SC for a primary on the same day.
With 34 delegates at stake this could be huge!
REAL CLEAR POLITICS IS IN BED WITH FAUX NEWS
I have been reading rcp website for several years now. They really do not do Dr. Paul any favors. Hardly ever have any articles on him. They routinely shift polls from the average whenever Dr. Paul starts getting higher poll results. Quite frankly they suck.
do you know who, other than Dr. Paul,
is actually cashed-up for the primary run? If Rudy is broke, and I thought McCain didn't have much either, and the Huckster supposedly came out of nowhere with no cash and I'm sure Thompson hasn't raised squat.
So, only Romney, with his big personal money stash, can outspend Paul...is that how you see it?
A family I know
has been in Nevada for over a month volunteering and canvassing for Ron Paul. Near Lake Tahoe, I think. She thought it was going well.
Not sure this is what he's doing
there's a thread from meeting groups in Mesquite, Nevada asking for donations to run local newspaper ads. They only need about $1,000, but I guess not getting anything from HQ. I donated to them.
Another fellow in Winnemucca, Nevada has organized his group and paid for the entire newspaper campaign himself.
He gives a good description of the caucus procedures in Nevada. This is the first year Nevada is doing a caucus style primary and I guess there's lots of confusion there. I think whoever is the most organized in that state is going to win.
one delegate per registered 30 voters
"I guess there's lots of confusion there"
Nevada can be a make or break state. It is very important to get precinct delegates that will support Ron Paul. Here's a link for the Nevada caucus.
http://www.humboldtnvgop.org/Caucus.html
Below is part of a posting that I made in support of the people in southern Nevada that need help paying for newspaper ads.
Nevada is having its first caucus. Many Nevadans do not understand how the caucus works, therefore it is my opinion to recruit as many supporters as possible to become delegates. As we speak my printer is printing off 485 postcards, which I will send out to my precinct. My goal is to locate additional Ron Paul supporters to become delegates. We are allowed one delegate per registered 30 voters. Therefore, my precinct alone is allowed 16 delegates. Many people may not show up at the caucus and if they do they may not understand the importance of becoming a delegate.
The front of my postcard has a picture of Ron Paul that says,
Attention!!
Ron Paul Supporters.
Nevada is having their first Caucus January 19, 2008.
If you have never participated in a caucus before, it is important that you call 625-2924 for more information.
The back says:
There are many differences between a caucus and a primary. To begin with, you will be voting for delegates and alternates to the county convention in addition to casting a vote for President. Also you must physically attend your precinct caucus in January. Absentee voting and early voting is not allowed and unlike our primaries, you can only vote at the caucus location in your neighborhood.
www.ronpaul2008.com
The January Nevada caucuses will be the only chance you*ll have for voting for your favorite Republican Presidential candidate. Presidential candidates will not be on the ballot in Nevada*s August primary.
PS. I sent out half of these today. The other half will be tomorrow. Time is running out here in Nevada.
John
Yes, what are the rules?
I was sad to learn after the fact about the rules in Wisc.
Is there any polls on Nevada? Any?