HAVING PROBLEMS VIEWING THE SITE? GET FIREFOX! | A NOTE ON ADVERTISING

   

NH RECOUNT Updated!! Urgent!!

UPDATE...this is going to be a sad week in America if this article on the re-count is true. We are having America stolen right out from under us.....and we have to stop it, I just don't know how?

http://www.opednews.com/a...

NH is going to try and keep the RE-count from going on. THey are scared....they know there is fraud, so they are going to try and out price us, so that we just go away. We can not let this happen! So get ready to donate when we get the ESTIMATE??....Here is the link from the Grannies telling you of the truth!!

http://grannywarrior.chip...

PLEASE PLEASE tell me we can get by all of this and help get it done???

output

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

Dr. Paul's account:

Dr. Paul's account: http://feeds.feedburner.c...

there has already been

there has already been proven in at least 2 places it
IS VOTERFRAUD

ron is taking a safe route here BUT others must investigate this

even if only 1 vote is cheated it is criminal and must be revealed

either you have democrazy or you dont you cant have almost democrazy

dont w8 for ron paul this is about YOUR vote being counted it is up to YOU

to make it count

but dont forget to work for the upcoming primaries, I think this is what ron is trying to do...

Better safe than Sorry!

Although Dr. Paul did not endorse the re-count, I still think it is a good idea to have it just to be sure. I do not want to look back and think "what if?" It is always better to have an affirmation of a vote even if it is not from our candidate.

Please continue to donate even though Dr. Paul did not endorse it.

Also please consider investing your time and money as well in Michigan, South Carolina, and Nevada.

Thanks!

Ron Paul said move on

I suggest we listen and focus on the future. His statement can be found on HQ website

Please take the time to read Ron Paul's

official statement.

I live in NH and am convinced that, while the vote was extremely disappopinting, there was no voter fraud. To continue insisting that there was truly disrespects the folks here who try very very hard to run elections correctly.

I read it....

And I have never said that RP should force a recount. It is happening without RP's involvement. If it proves everything was perfect...great. That is all I want. I am not saying Ron Paul will jump to first or second....for my own sanity, I would love to see the recount follow through. If it doesn't turn up anything...Great. If it does...Great.

I am siding with the Grannies to take care of this!

Unfortunately

Dr. Paul's good name is being dragged into the recount issue, despite his firm belief that a recount is not necessary. Nh papers all reporting that the Republican recount is being financed by "Ron Paul supporters".

I truly hope that RP earns the nomination and carries NH in the general election. But this issue will NOT help his cause in any way. And he knows that!

Too much time...

I am VERY worried that too much time has elapsed between the election and this recount. This is plenty of time for diebold or whoever to make ballots that will match the counts, and somehow replace them.

Maybe I sound paranoid, however everything that has happened so far scares the shit out of me, and I feel this is actually going on.

Does anyone know how well these ballots are "locked up", or if anyone has heard anything about break in's or w/e at places where they store ballots.

Also, a switch could be made while transporting the ballots for the recount. Maybe I watch too many movie's, but hey I can see this.

I agree

I praythe votes have not been switched out...or are being switched out as we speak!!

I just donated $25. I really

I just donated $25.

I really think we need to help them. Raising awareness about these electronic voting machines will only help this country.

Please donate whatever you can. $1, $5, $10 etc... Anything helps.

Lawyers for Ron Paul need to step forward

to file a court order demanding opening of machines, as article stated.
They can work in conjunction with grannywarriors & Albert Howard; not needed to work with RP HQ, right?

NH VOTERS MUST COMPLETE A VOTER AFFIRMATION AFFIDAVIT

Available at www.watchthevote2008.com!
This is an affidavit that they can download, take to their bank and have notarized (for free!) and send to the address listed on the website above. These affidavits are SWORN TESTIMONY that a voter has voted for Ron Paul and their signatures are NOTARIZED, making them LEGAL documents!
There will be affidavits available for ALL states very soon! The affidavits for Iowa and New Hampshire must be sent to the address listed on the website; however, the remaining affidavits will have an address printed right at the very bottom of the affidavit. There are already P.O. Boxes set up by regions, for obvious cost considerations!
Anyone, whether individual citizens or groups can download and print as many copies as needed and pass them out at voting precincts, meetup groups, etc. This is an added layer of protection of our voting rights and is just as important as watching the polling places and reporting the actual results!

These affidavits were prepared by a Constitutional LAWYER who graduated 1st in his class from Harvard Law and is also a noted author!
These are LEGAL documents that will stand up in a court of LAW!

awesome idea

just wrote a forum post on this idea of a citizens audit here:

http://www.dailypaul.com/...

these documents would be perfect to use.
great to know the legal groundwork has been layed down.
now it's time to spread the message far & wide.

imho, this is the ONLY way to force the issue.
recounts WILL NOT WORK.
opening the machines WILL NOT WORK.
legal remedies WILL NOT WORK.

if the fix is in, these rebuttals have already been taken into consideration.
if there is a fix, it's not a new phenomenon.
it's been going on since the beginning.
they are masters of the game at this point.

a citizens' audit is the only way to expose the hole.
the only way.
the citizens must take the responsibility to take this into their own hands.

This needs to get out to all NH RP voters

Has this been sent to NH meetups?

Paper ballots counted in public

Why is this unacceptable?

What? You need 8 more people to count the ballots?

Watch Princeton University video below...don't worry the recount will confirm the results....you think these people are stupid? Video slot machine vote analysis below.

http://www.fliggo.com/vid...

Paper ballots counted in public. Those votes belong to us. They are ours. We have the power to make them count.

Dr. Paul had to be kept out of 3rd place so they can begin to cut him out of the debate process and the major media. Hillary is SUPPOSED TO WIN. Exit polls confirmed Obama by 10%...hose job for both parties.

Paper ballots counted in full view only. They are our votes.

T

The recount has been ordered

The recount has been ordered according to one article, but it does seem necesary to examine the inside of those machines. I have wondered about this from the start. The people of NH need a state initiative banning electronic voting machines. Meanwhile, the court order sound incumbent.

As I've said before.

Dr. Paul may be for peace but sometimes one has to stop turning the other cheek.

What i find so absurd

.. is how the government wants our tax money to pay for everything -- medical care for illegals, building an empire, nation building all over the world, dept of Homeland Security, No child left behind, ... even matching funds $ to certain candidates who fit the bill.

So why the heck can't they pay for THIS?! The hypocrisy is absolutely absurd!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
Be FREE at last! MLK Day moneybomb - Jan. 21!
http://www.freeatlast2008...

uncovering the absurdity

why can't they pay?
very simply because they don't want to.

for a possible solution, i urge you to check out the forum topic:

a case for a citizens' audit

suggestions most welcomed & encouraged.

This link sounds like Misinformation to me

What got me was the link claimed that their were numerous accounts of people casting voted for Obama and registering Clinton?
WTF?
The entire state of NH uses paper ballots.
Knowing that I dismiss the entire article as the BS it is ...

AND THEY USE OPTICAL SCANNING MACHINES TO COUNT PAPER BALLOTS

in almost 75% of the STATE! This is an ISSUE of NOT VOTER FRAUD but of RIGGED BALLOT COUNTING, ELECTION FRAUD! Their scanning machines print out paper receipts if you will that show the vote count, but this is EASILY MANIPULATED through software used in the machines!

You just keep watching Fox if you don't believe that this is a SERIOUS ISSUE throughout the country!

how do we know they didn't tamper with the paper ballots

like throwing some away and printing new ones?

do we have access to all the entrance and exit polls too?

This is a huge problem!!!!

This is a huge problem!!!!

Volunteers can't count the ballots only

elected officials.........If I hear anything I will keep you posted. In my town of Newport (just under 12% for paul, sorry, I tried) I have family that woiuld be doing the recount. IF/when they get contacted, I will let you know. My town is a hand count, so I suspect the count to be within one or 2 votes for everyone, if not, right on the money. Hand counts are the way to go. The Sutton thing ( 2 towns over) was human error I suspect, which does happen. I would be interested in hearing the outcome of these scanner things, though.

We haven't heard anything as of today, yet..........

Ballots

In NH we have PAPER BALLOTS that were fed into the machines.
Those are what will be recounted.

As someone who has TAKEN PART IN A RECOUNT IN THE PAST, I was surprised to see that it was 100% accurate. Of course, not in such a highly contentious race as a presidential primary, but still, accurate... unless someone smeared up the ballot pretty badly.

So I'm not sure why this person is writing this?

I don't think money is an object...according to the person I sent to Mr. Howard who called me about this.

Not sure why I am writing

Not sure why I am writing this???

Because I see voter fraud written all over NH. THe chain of custody of Ballots is a big part of the problem, as well as these machines. There are so many problems that I could list...I could go on and on?

I just don't understand why this country can't go back to all hand written Ballots dropped into a big Plexiglass box, and have a camera on it the entire time...and film the count...all live. So simple...But NO, we could never go back to such an old system....could we?

Jane could you please respond to the UPDATED article in my post? I would like to here your thoughts on this?

Absolutely right takeaction -

We need to find out what needs to be done to be able to vote this way. After a *watched* vote recount proves fraud, we will have grounds to demand this.

Because then votes wouldn't be secret

If you made the box out of plexiglass you could read ballots through the box. Even if you fold the ballots it's possible for them to pop open. In small towns with 5-10 voters it'd be pretty easy to match up votes to people.

Also, imagine the number of cameras and hours of film--there are many thousands of polling places in states like California, Texas and New York.

Come on...that is no valid

Come on...that is not valid arguement? Okay put a curtain around it and keep the camera on it with live feeds to the net...or any type of DVR recording device...with timestamps...or whatever. Then continue the live feed when the curtain is pulled back and the votes are counted right in front of the live feed.

Are you telling me that the United States of America, with satellites that can read license plates, missles that can hit you from 6000 miles away with perfect aim, and we can't figure out a way to make the voting system bullet proof??

Oh yeah....they don't want the vote protected or transparent...I forgot..Sorry!! Back to my Fox news...Britney is on again...can you believe her?

We need a court order......I

We need a court order......I just read the linked article above.......this is what we need to be concerned about....

"What is needed is a court order to confiscate/examine the machines and paper ballots, based on the discrepancy between the paper and machine ballot counts. Bev Harris knows this fact very well."

Then why isn't someone getting a court order to do this? If the article is correct, just getting a recount isn't going to prove anything because the "recount" will be tainted as well.
$2000 is not the cost of the recount....that was just the "upfront" money that had to be paid to put the recount in motion. I thought we knew that the recount was going to cost around $67,000.........but evidently that isn't correct, either since NH says they will announce next week what the cost is going to be.

Alex Jones said he has wealthy backers offering to step up

and put up the money for private investigators, etc.

why aren't the granny warriors flush with cash, then...
I don't get it...

Read the Update article.....

I pray it is not true....I guess we have to wait and see what the Estimate is??

SORRY Jane, I

Misspelled your name, I AM sorry!

I Read Yesterday from a post here

that they were going to only charge Albert Howard $2,000 because he received less than 3% of the Republican vote! That needs to be looked into very carefully, something about the State Law was cited regarding the cost of the re-count! Jane Aiken, can you help on this?

So what is REALLY going on in NH? They seems to think that because they use only Optical Scanners to count the votes and it spits out a paper receipt that the original count couldn't have been skewed by software issues. And we're supposed to BELIEVE this?

wrong!

no...it costs only the $2k if you were within 3% of first place. everyone else must pay the full price.

Please email me!

Please have Linda H. or someone else from Grannies email me.
I had sent someone to contact Mr. Howard who says he has the money, and it's no object.

info @ my full name dot org

Jane????

Read the update...and I pray the person you have is true...

Also...in the article in the update...I feel we need to hire attorneys and get the machines confiscated!!

How much time to come up with the money

after they announce the amount needed?

Seems to me that there would be pleanty of volunteers to count the votes from all parties concerned. So why should it cost a lot of money? There are not that many votes that have to be counted.

hold on this...

This is all public information. If they intend to scam us, no doubt they are keeping an eye on just how much we can afford. Let them price it out first and THEN we will tell them how much we have by donating. You don't walk into a car delaership shouting "I have $50k, who wants to give me the best deal."

Just wait until we get the estimate, and then we will all chip in at once.

I agree 100% Can you

I agree 100% Can you believe this??

don't worry about the money

in fact, don't worry so much about all of this.

the revolution is larger than you think.

Good grief it's like we are getting a glimpse of what Hell will

Good grief it's like we are getting a glimpse of what Hell will be like, that's for sure.....
______________________
*** God bless Ron Paul ***
* Ron Paul For President *

Let's approach this with caution.

When you look at the differences between hand counted ballots and machine counted ones in the larger towns, it looks like the main loser was Huckabee and the beneficiary was Romney.

You can check it at: http://CheckTheVotes.com#...

There could easily be a difference in voting patterns between larger and smaller centers. If some group were fixing the counting machines to favor Romney, they would most want to rob Huckabee after his Iowa victory.

Remember Romney's effort at the Florida straw poll? He bought his victory there by buying masses of voting tickets for his handful of supporters.

Our people wandered into that ambush with the principled idea of "one person - one vote." Romney then got himself on TV proclaiming his victory.

Ron Paul is my first choice to lead America; Mitt Romney is my last.

Ron Paul warms my heart; Mitt Romney makes my skin crawl.

John H

Yes John H but

what about the counties that showed 0 votes for Ron Paul until people stepped forward? That was to keep him down in 5th place.