Conference Call with HQ today outlining grassroots concerns

And the new daily paul.

http://www.readthehook.co...

I already emailed with Steve, and he's satisfied that the campaign is taking action. He thinks the new Grassroots Coordinator hired by the campaign is a step in the right direction.

Well, if you guys are so insistent and developing a list of "Intolerable Grievances" against the campaign, could we at least elect grass roots delegates to draft a letter? Kind of a House of Burgesses for the Ron Paul Revolution.

First, I would not send official correspondence with SOME WORDS CAPITALIZED. In an official correspondence it looks completely unprofessional and loses credibility.

More to point, some of his grievances I think are silly and the campaign took the right course of action; as such, this letter does not espouse my views, so claiming this letter is "outlining some of our concerns" isn't accurate

Could you please clarify a few things for all of us here. I have derived from your posts that you live in New Hampshire. For the past few months you continually insert/insinuate your importance into all discussions with an air of superiority, supposedly because you have years of campaign experience, are closely in touch with "official" campaign staff, are deeply invoved with your local precinct, are a leader of the grassroots workers in your locale, etc.

Below you have been insinuating that people questioning the "official" campaign are against this movement, and that the FAILURE in New Hampshire might have been caused by the unruly grassroots people there, and how they would not "do simple tasks assigned to them", follow your directions, etc.

Might I simply suggest that if you want to take that position, you go and take a long, hard look in the mirror FIRST. IF you truly are as involved in the campaign as you say you are, and were directing the grassroots efforts in New Hampshire (or part of)......our failure there just MIGHT suggest that YOUR leadership style SUCKS.

Based upon your online personality, I could easily see how you turned people OFF, not fired them up to do whatever was necessary for Ron paul to win.

Get out of your white tower of "superiority". From what you continually tell us, it is as much your fault as any, despite your collection of experience (or maybe BECAUSE of...)

I just don't see why everyone is so unhappy. I am not a control freak like many obviously are here, but I do think many of you are losing sight towards what we are fighting here. The campaign has always had a mountain to climb in front of them. The media will never give them a free pass, as every other "major" candidate has gotten. If Ron Paul had anything on his record like the other scumbags it would be riding the airwaves into every home in America. The "racist" thing is really going to kill us in the next few primaries even though its been proven false, only one major newspaper has issued a retraction and none of the major networks have set the record straight. They just stopped reporting it, so the effect is that most Americans who heard it think its true.

Stop blaming the Campaign and stop working against them. We need to be united if we're going to get anywhere by Super Tuesday. Core support is still strong, but now we have to work double time to make up for the major blows we've received from the media in recent weeks. Our goal is to finish in third or fourth in MI, SC, NV, and FL...hopefully by then the only opponents left for us will be McKennedy and Ghouliani. Can you imagine how RP will destroy them in a debate? I can. Many of you people need to get your shit together and stop the infighting. That crap only serves to harm us in the short and long terms, and if it doesn't end soon I will have to start to believe you instigators are actually neo-con spies trying to mess up the campaign.

Tomorrow is a big day...3rd place baby!

I don't know Jane. I am not taking sides here but i do know this. Jane is about to lose this argument big time. Just watch Michigan tomorrow. Then watch this money bomb on the 21st. Why will Jane lose this argument?

She will lose b/c people want results for their money. Also, we want to know where the freaking $20 mil went. Was it used to pay rent at all of the little offices in nowhere states that don't mean crap? Who knows.

What we do know is they did not spend it in New Hampshire. Why not spend the whole frickin lot in NH? That's right, double down on NH. Spend the whole $20 mil or whatever he had on hand at the time.

I can assure you that if he had won NH (or showed) this money bomb coming up would be a different story. We would probably be well on our way to breaking a new record. We already proved getting the money was not a problem. But, apparently the problem is it did not buy us much.

But, according to some it is not our place to ask questions about what happened to the money or demand results. I suppose that attitude is fine, but until these questions are answered and results are shown I doubt we are going to have this problem much longer.

Cheers.

Okay let's look at this logically. Ron Paul has won the majority of the strawpolls, Ron Paul has the vast majority of meetup groups, Ron Paul has the most grassroot supporters, Ron Paul has received the most contributions of any other candidate even to the point of making records for one day fundraising and most importantly, Ron Paul has the message and the answers to correct the problems we fact today. So the question is:

1. Why with Dr Paul having more money than Huckabee and McCain to advertise in Iowa and New Hampshire did Huckabee win Iowa and McCain win New Hampshire?

2. Why with more grassroots support in Iowa and New Hampshire did Huckabee win Iowa and McCain win New Hampshire?

3. A person has to ask how and why when Dr Paul's grassroot supporters are so dedicated and large in numbers?

Do we blame the media? Does the media have that much control over the American people and their opinions and choices? Do we think that maybe Dr Paul has been putting all of his eggs in New Hampshire and Iowa which are two very small states when we have Super Tuesday coming up shortly? Do we ask if maybe the campaign managers are not strong enough to compete with some pretty aggressive, will do anything to get their candidate to win, other campaign managers?

It could be one thing, it could be a combination of things but one thing I know for sure and no offense to Jane but it is NOT the supporters fault. I may not now how to run a campaign as you have suggested but I am 58 years old and I have voted in every election and I take your comments personally.

In my entire life I have never seen anything like the Ron Paul supporters, no other candidate has ever earned my time or my money like Ron Paul. The Ron Paul supporters are the most creative, dedicated,compassionate and tireless supporters that a candidate could ever dream of having so DO NOT blame them.

Also, when individuals give their money, time, heart and soul to a man that they believe is the only hope for this country then they DO have the right to question a campaign about what they are doing and why. When you tell us that we as participants have no right to question them is no different then telling us that we have no right to question what our government does. I honestly don't think that Dr Paul would agree with you as saying that we are bothering the campaign staff or wasting their valuable time.

Maybe the frustration comes from the fact that all of the supporters are working so hard to get Dr Paul elected, some even giving up their jobs or contributing money that they have so little of, because IF Dr Paul doesn't win then they don't know what will happen to them, their children or this country.

This election is dead serious and probably one of the most serious issues that we will face for decades to come so I personally can understand the frustration with the results and with the campaign managers But believe me, I am so totally proud of all of the Ron Paul supporters out there that have given me hope that I no longer have to worry that I am alone in my concerns about the future of this country.

One example of supporters in my area (St Louis) is that the campaign has basically left us on our own. This has not stopped the meetup groups and supporters. They have worked tirelessly standing out in the ice and cold waving RP signs, handing out slim/jims and going door to door spreading the message. Also, they have managed to raise over $8,000 and recently put up 8 beautiful billboards in the St Louis and surrounding are to show St Louisians and people driving through from all over the country why we love and believe in Dr Paul.

No help from the campaign headquarters but it was done because supporters believe in Dr Paul and his message and this is going on ALL over the country so I save God Bless Ron Paul supporters because you are the true patriots of America with the true patriot to lead us, Ron Paul.

If he contacted us wouldn't it make us connected to him and his campaign? I don't think he can organize with us. Someone should check the rules on this.

I'm not the least cranky....I'm as excited as the first day....just blown away by the media, that's all......the media is not getting my joy, NO WAY. They aren't worth it.

Who is the grassroots? It seems we are too spread out to have someone speaking for us. Jane has one thought steve another. I think the whole mood here has gotten negative and desperate. Listen to Ron Paul's calm words at big issues. More things will get done with calm. Spread our efforts where our talents are. My Wife and I pass out 100s of Slim Jims daily. We talk to everyone we contact. We follow up. Others do other things.

Everyones perspective is from their side. That is why we are grassroots and that is why we are successful at our thing. I realize some things need further organization, but for the most part do what you can do. But at the same time do ALL that you can do. Feel good about what you have done when you go to bed at night. Fight the fight not each other!

RP08

Stop analyzing every little thing the campaign does and get out and spread the message. Can't you think of something constructive and positive to do or are you continually negative all the time?

I'm one of the frustrated ones and very much so with regards to the way they handled my concerns about the voting machines which sounded a lot like "nothing to see here, keep moving..." .

Now we hear more horror stories about these voting machines that the Campaign apparently had no clue happened.

Their video commercials are terrible! There's a lot more creative energy within the grassroots.

The thought "hmmm, if this is how things are handled during the campaign to get RP nominated, how will it be once RP is at the WH?". Throw stones if you want but this has been in the back of my mind since IA then got worse after NH. And I am one of the ones that donated to the max, wrote letters to people in IA and NH, went all the way to Boston for the Tea Party, got interviewed by some local TV, so on... What I'm trying to say is that I'm one of the more passionate supporters and If I am having these thoughts... it's really bad!

JB

Information that needs to get out.

The campaign just hired someone to communicate with the grassroots. The first thing he did was call me and I spoke to him and posted about it on the DP.

I told him my concerns about NH, voting, the message, the fact that people didn't even know which ballot to choose until the NEWSPAPERS told them.

Second, what good does it do to speak to the person you want to oust? Who would you suggest run the campaign instead of the current people? They have worked with Ron for years.

I given up offering services. When the Libertarian party offered us both their phone list and phone bank, I offered to auto dial. at near cost. the entire list;
polling the list to see which voters were supporters, undecided, or already decided , but not a supporter. This would have made the phone bank operation 100% more effective because the campaign callers would know in advance which list they were calling. It also could have served as a get out the vote list and potential fund raiser list. I never received a response from either HQ or the Libertarian party.

Is this supposed to happen?