NV, SC Primary Results - Main Thread
It is "Shootout Saturday" in Nevada and South Carolina. Grassroots - tell us what you hear and see on the ground. We cannot rely on the old media. We are the new media.
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vote is unconstitutional
At least according to the SC state constitution which says the votes must be not be counted in secret but since the system provided no real time method of observing the vote count it is in violation.
The SC primary is invalid and the delegates should be barred from the convention unless a paper ballot vote is done.
ARTICLE II.
RIGHT OF SUFFRAGE
SECTION 1. Elections to be by secret ballot; protection of right of suffrage.
All elections by the people shall be by secret ballot, but the ballots shall not be counted in secret. The right of suffrage, as regulated in this Constitution, shall be protected by laws regulating elections and prohibiting, under adequate penalties, all undue influence from power, bribery, tumult, or improper conduct.
http://www.scstatehouse.n...
sent this to my local fox affiliate...
maybe we can shame them into developing a conscience.
Dear Fox News Employee
I assume you are educated and have some professionalism left. Take a look at the attached picture and ask yourself, what's wrong with it?
http://img442.imageshack....
Shame on Fox.
Yours truly
Vote Fraud in South Carolina - BREAKING NEWS **VIDEO OF BALLOT C
Vote Fraud in South Carolina -
BREAKING NEWS **VIDEO OF BALLOT COUNTING IN HORRY COUNTY**
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
CHECK YOUR PRECINCT VOTES! SC Votes by County - click on the county to breakdown by precinct!
http://www.state.sc.us/cg...
ACTION ALERT: South Carolina Elections Are
UNCONSTITUTIONAL!?!
> South Carolina elections are unconstitutional? How could that be?
> Surely, no one in our government would conduct any election which
> violated the Constitution, and if any scheme threatened to undermine the
> very foundation of our government, our power to elect our leaders, the
> press would expose it, wouldn't it?
>
> See why those who walk the halls of power in South Carolina have been
> sweating all weekend. Read the article at
> http://www.opednews.com/a...
>
> Spread the word like Paul Revere! It's time to demand an end to the
> unconstitutional practice of counting our votes in secret! It's time to
> restore our ability to control our government by returning to hand
> counted paper ballots which are counted in public at each precinct on
> election night! It's time to throw everyone out of office who fails to
> abide by the Constitution!
>
> Op Ed News gives you the ability to send a statement to your government
> leaders and the local press. Please use it. The article has links for
> you to use to send your demand to those who may do something to restore
> Constitutional elections. Please let them know what you want them to
> do. Now is the time to act! Please help spread the word by sending
> this email to your contacts!
>
> Thanks, Mark A. Adams JD/MBA < markadamsatty@hotmail.com>
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FOR RELEASE- Exclusive Breaking News From SC Citizen Journalists
Primary Voters Turned Away Amongst Complete Chaos in Horry County, South Carolina
Preliminary Report and Video Posted at www.republicmedia.tv
Please forward this email notice and visit us to DIG this article--spread the word!
Sunday, 1/20/08 Matt Jarfi, Myrtle Beach, SC Republic Media News Wire
80% of the ESS electronic voting machines were not able to "open up" in Saturday's primary forcing almost all Horry County precincts to use paper ballots. When precincts opened Saturday morning a majority of the voting machines would not work at all. The Seawinds precinct had reported that the electronic voting machines were down "county wide." Republic Media reporters from or SC affiliate organization, Make a Difference Horry County, were on the scene to document how voters were turned away and the county was completely caught off guard. Their visit to the county voting offices show that officials were unprepared for this eventuality and did not have enough paper ballot backups and ended up counting hand votes on yellow legal pads! Voters were turned away from various precincts. More information is pending....
Watch this exclusive video and read their preliminary reports NOW AVAILABLE at http://www.republicmedia....!
response from local fox affiliate
This was aired on the National Fox News station. We really do not have anything to do with the stories they air on the network. We simply share the Fox News name. If you have a comment for the Fox News (national) you can call their comment line at 1-888-369-4762.
Thanks,
Caryn Little
Assignment Editor
FOX Charlotte
Newsdesk@foxcharlotte.tv
She's right... you should complain to Fox News Channel, not them
Many local affiliate stations aren't even owned by FOX... some are, but I doubt the one in Charlotte is. Local affiliate stations are like franchises, and none of them, even the ones owned by FOX, have any editorial control over the national cable network Fox News Channel at all.
If you want to complain, it'd be far more productive to complain to FOX news channel...
wouldn't it be nice
to seed some awareness (maybe even dissent) within the Fox ranks?
a little bit of conscience at the grass roots could be helpful
If you want to do that I think it would be better if ...
You didn't try to shame the local news employees or imply that they lack professionalism but instead alert to them what Fox News Channel did (they probably didn't know about it), acknowledge that they were not directly responsible for what Fox News Channel did, and then request that they express their disgust to people at Fox News Channel... This strategy would make them a lot less defensive...
well for what it's worth
we got the number for the Fox comment line: 1-888-369-4762
I'll go drop them a line now...
Yeah... I actually think that contacting FOX news channel...
Does do some good... all the flack that they got when they excluded Ron Paul from the NH "forum" lead to Ron Paul getting about as much time as the other candidates in the next FOX news debate, not to mention another Jay Leno appearance... I think FOX is always going to be biased against Ron Paul, but it strengths the view amongst most Americans that FOX is a neocon news station that calls itself fair and balanced, and is essentially the Jerry Springer of cable news networks...
Ron Paul supporters within media
Ron Paul still has supporters inside the media.
Watch this short interview with Ron Paul by MyFox Los Angeles (Jan 19): http://www.youtube.com/wa...
Let's see whether Blitzer and Tucker have been definitely muted.
Time to attack McCain
McCain is clearly the MSM frontrunner. He should be attacked on amnesty for illegals and for his Muslim race-baiting. John McCain was openly racist in the SC debate, a week ago, read it here:
McCain's racism in SC debate
RP brigades must start proving our differences from the Republican field as they try to co-opt our ideas.
MUST READ - SPREAD THESE LINKS! MCAIN IS NO WAR HERO!
MUST READ - SPREAD THESE LINKS! MCAIN IS NO WAR HERO!
Discussion: I'm ashamed to say that McCain is the preferred
presidential candidate of the South Carolina GOP leadership. I
guess it's because scalawags like the company of traitors.
http://ronpaul.meetup.com...
Latest message by user 4176864 on January 19, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Watch video.
This video will inspire you and make you passionate about getting this message of freedom out to the public. It's our country and it is slowly being taken from us through the propaganda of " FEAR". We must save ourselves fro ourselves. This is POWERFUL! We are only defeated if we don't try.We have to ask the leaders of our country "What are we doing to our nation???????"
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Did anyone else see this on CNN?
Early on in the Nevada primary when Mccain was ahead of Ron Paul, CNN had the totals of two candidates for each party at the bottom of the screen. At that time it was Romney and Mccain, every few minutes they would rotate that with Huckabee and Thompson and their percentages even though they were fouth and fifth completely ignoring Ron Paul at third. Later once Ron Paul moved to second, they had a blurb in the same place saying Huckabee was in second in Nevada.
I am out of the country so I don't know if I get exactly the same CNN programming as in the states but what is happening there is really frightening.
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Vote RON PAUL and ensure that time is there for the future plus much more. Vote RON PAUL and help ensure we have a future worth living. Vote anyone else and come to realize it's because the MSM still has its hold on your mind.
MSM
freedom IS highly contagious
We know the MSM will continue the complete Bastardization of words in an effort to suppress the message that Congressman Ron Paul IS sending out to the true lovers of Freedom and Liberty.
The simple fact IS the more they suppress the stronger the message becomes, you have the tools to overcome this adversity simply by continuing to do what you have done all along, now go outside and yell at the very top of you’re lungs “RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT”
Ron Paul Meetup Members Surpass 100,000 Mark
Members have been increasing at a rate of over 500 members a day (there is no bell shape in sight):
Meetup Members Past 7 days: http://www.ronpaulgraphs....
Meetup Members overall: http://www.ronpaulgraphs....
wow! - bump - wow!
wow! - bump - wow!
"There are some days,when I think I am going to die
"There are some days when I think I am going to die from an overdose of satisfaction".
Come on brothers and sisters,the fun has just begun.This is a fight to the finish.
To Ron Paul and FREEDOM!...
SC Voters love Bush!
Did anyone notice, according to CNN exit polls 70% of SC voters are satisfied with Bush's policy. Unreal. How do we fight that???
South Carolina
Did anyone see Miss Teen South Carolina??? Enough said.
haha
thats a good one and so so true
The MSM lack of acknowledgement
I'm not at all surprised that the MSM ignores or marginalises Paul. I think it is important to realise that a consolidation of the MSM has been happening over the last 50 years so that the end result is that most major news stations/magazines/other publications are owned by a grand total of 6 monstrous corporations. Look into stopbigmedia.com for a list. This is no accident or coincidence, and it could not happen without the current monetary system, which Paul opposes. Corporate ownership may be a secret but the role of the big banks, and their monopoly over the issuance of credit which gives them a tremedous advantage in the marketplace (and to buy controlling shares in these corporations) is no longer a secret. I suggest to anyone still in the dark over this process to search youtube for "Edward Griffin" or google that name and read a summary of "The Creature from Jekyll Isand" - a book RP has given a positive review for. Thomas Jefferson was right in his warning about bank issued credit and the monopoly of banks and corporation control that would result - a reality we are living in today. RP stands opposed to this, which is why the controlling interests (not neccessarily individual journalists) of msm are opposed to him overtly (fox) or covertly (others) .What he stands for threatens the msm owner's control over the minds of Americans.
Our Collective Mind
To those of you who believe in freedom and free choice, to make your own conclusions based on the facts, and I say again “ FACTS”, need to pay close attention to the TV news .This is where we get into “MIND CONTROL” of the general public. Who controls the out come of elections? Is it “WE THE PEOPLE”, or the media and its outlandish attempt to destroy the individual MIND. So, when forming an opinion of the world at large and our individual participation in this world where do we find our true meaning in information presented to us? That is all very simple. We gain our information through each other and what we have is a collective of people who put the real facts together, and when we all share our ideas, it fuels our strength, and it furthers our quest for a new reality.
In order to be free we must continue to build coalitions with each other, to share ideas about how to solve our political, economic, and social justice dilemmas, which face us right now. Do we want a war on terror, or a dictatorship government that controls our individual thoughts with propaganda that has no basis in reality? So, make a choice today and tell someone all about Ron Paul and, you will have made a friend and a fellow free thinking individual who wants the same thing as you, to be FREE in accordance with the SUPREME LAW of the Land. FREEDOM is not FREE, it has to be preserved or it won’t prevail. IT IS
UP TO US……. Spread the message and connect with each other and form friendships that will endure though the history of our time to change Fascist politics and to REGAIN OUR REPUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SINCERELY,
Liberty101
New York Times
I actually used to be a subscriber to the NYT. So here's my response to their most recent renewal letter they sent me:
New York Times,
Due to your uninformed and borderline slanderous (retracted article) treatment of Ron Paul I will never again purchasing your newspaper or magazines. Furthermore I will inform anyone in my circle of friends, family, and coworkers of your supposed elite newspaper’s ineptitudes. I’m sure they are already aware of the paper’s failure in the lead up to the Iraq war, and lack of ability to hire reporters who don’t make up entire articles; but I will add to their doubts. For example, today in the Nevada caucus Ron Paul finished 2nd yet he is still not on your general election results page. He has more delegates and a higher percentage of the popular vote than both Giuliani and Thompson. Even a person who’s not supporting Ron Paul can see this is either an unfair attempt to marginalize him, or just plain incompetence. Either is a valid reason for a rational person to cut ties with your paper.
ouch!!!
OUCH!
Uh....
... you should have said "libelous", not slanderous. Libel is printed lies, slander is spoken.
I did the same thing with TIME
and I have stopped watching FOX
Just in case you missed the media today - here's a recap
MSNBC Digraceful Towards Paul
http://www.charlotteconse...
MSM Corruption Censors Paul
http://www.charlotteconse...
NYTimes Censors Paul
http://www.charlotteconse...
This guy was in the thick of it today and nothing got passed him.
Of course I was watching the lack of entertainment via the CNN hack machine.
No matter. We got 2nd in Nevada and we're still on path. When the pack starts thinning out after Florida I truly believe that RP will begin to be in the driver's seat to carry this thing forward.
It's time to focus on MLK moneybomb and the second stage of The Ron Paul Revolution 2.0!!!!
NYT Censors Ron Paul
Ron Paul is not even listed as a candidate
http://politics.nytimes.c...
Screenshot
http://waterlime.googlepa...
The NYT is BS!
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fire Kent Snyder now!
I am asking that Kent Snyder be fired now. It should have happened a long time ago - in Philadelphia when he was yelling at the people who paid $500 to speak with Dr Paul. But this South Carolina fiasco was too much. How much of our money did RP2008 spend to get 4% of the vote there? A complete debacle - could have gotten that without any campaigning. No more money until Kent Snyder is fired! You are also spending time in the wrong states. New Jersey has a lot of independents and Dr Paul is trending upward there. Please come to South Jersey! And please fire Kent Snyder now and put in a professional!
To see the REAL mcain, view
To see the REAL mcain, view this
http://www.usvetdsp.com/j...
Ron Pauls Candidacy Will Carry On
Even though he hasn't won a state he has the capital to carry on through the convention.
www.wakeuplate.com
Seriosuly
Second place is pretty damn good for the amount of media coverage Paul has recieved. And he hasn't spent much time campaigning on the ground either. Yet he beat all the front runners besides Mittens - Must be embarassing for the MSM.
According to the b.s. exit polls, people like McCain because they sympathize with his story about being tortured, which he's as happy to tell anybody that will listen as Giuliani is 9/11, and they view him as a war hero. He is one of the only candidates who people vote for the actual person rather than the issues. Nevermind that he reads from a telepromter and has a winter's supply of Vicodin stored in his cheeks.
In an unrrelated note, I would make out with his daughter.
AWARE OF ANYONE UTILIZING COMMERCIAL AFFIDAVITS IN SC?
RSK Retrieving signatures from all exiting voters (preferably only Dr. Paul voters for simplicity sake). Once notarized then recorded with date and time stamp via that precincts recorders office.If not rebutted within 30 days, a powerful legal/lawful document which will stand up to the scrutiny of any court (federal or otherwise) in the land. CURRENTLY, this is the only means we have to prove election fraud if or should I say when it occurs. Preventing it at this point is not feasible with electronic voting machines still in use in almost every precinct throughout the nation.
News Flash (the real news)
The Old Media has done a great service to the Ron Paul Republicans. By blacking out Dr. Pauls 2nd place victory and every other major event and working hard to discredit him and his supporters, the media has further discredited itself once again while helping the Paul campaign to gain strong steam.
By doing evil they have turned more Americans towards the message of Freedom, Sound Money, and International Peace.
Ron Paul Republicans are outraged and don't yet realize the positive results the old media stunt has had on the general population and the future of America.
In related News the ReLOVEution continues to grow at an alarming pace and the establishment further decays on its chaotic path of meltdown.
It looks like a Ron Paul Win is imminent for the Future and new Ron Paul Republicans are popping up everywhere!!
At a Colorado meetup a young man saw a ReEVOLution sign pasted on the interstate in October 2007 and he is now a Ron Paul Caucus Delegate and one who is addicted to the message of Liberty; hundreds and thousands share similar stories!
By trying to disservice us we have been serviced. Their spoil shall indeed lead to their demise!
Live long ReEVOLution!
We are doing good without the Media The Revolution still Lives
We have alot to look Forward too and we are waking up the masses to this corrupt federal reserve and now all of Us should be proud of that plus we are going to be the future Ron Paul Republicans in Congress and Senate now Ron Paul Knows he's not alone But this Election is not over We will Fight For Freedom And Teach the Truth
This is not going to end ever Ron Paul has Taught Us alot We Our the Revolution
And Everyone need to check out
Americas Financial Collapse on youtube
France is Bankrupt because of EU Central bank
The central bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the Principles and form of our Constitution. I am an Enemy to all banks discounting bills or notes for anything but Coin. If the American People allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the People of all their Property until their Children will wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered
Thomas Jefferson
NV Results
from www.nvgopcaucus.com
1,789 of 1,789 precincts reporting
Mitt Romney 51 % 22,646
Ron Paul 14 % 6,084
j. McCain 13 % 5,650
Somebody else Huckabee 8 % 3,616
Fred Thompson 8 % 3,519
Rudy Ghouliani 4 % 1910
Duncan Hunter 2 % 890
Total 44,315
You can't help but wonder
You can't help but wonder how much of a swing more media coverage would make. MSM has done a great diservice to the people of this country. Every single major news station, covered all of the candidates today, with the exception of one, Ron Paul!
I watched as these other candidates seemed to be taking a page from Ron Paul, speaking of smaller government and out of control spending. That's all fine and well, IF THEY ACTUALLY MEANT IT! We all have seen their true stances, and if elected, would not change squat.
For an election that seems to be focused on change, as made apparent by the people of america, why do the voters seem to be sticking with the status quo? It seems that the majority of people have been so used to being told what to do, and when to do it, that a REAL change would mess up their comfort zone, and they need government to protect themselves from themselves.
In closing, as I stated in my first paragraph, maybe this all stems from the fact that Ron Pauls message hasn't reached enough people. NV gave me alot of hope, however it's apparent that anything but first place, will be ignored by the MSM.
Go Ron Paul!!!
I will support you to the end, and continue to spread your message to all that I can.
Its now about "placing"
Its only about Establishment versus Non-Establishment.
All of the republican and the democratic candidates (save Ron Paul) are of the power establishment. All have paid their dues to enter and play in the world of large government and corporate power. The MSM will utlimately sing the praises of any of them, because none of them would threaten Big Media.
Ron is about the power of the individual. If Dr. Paul's message begins to take hold it is a threat to ALL establishment. This is why Ron Paul will not get any credit from Corporate $$ Media. Inidividual power scares the heck out of the elite. Remember the French Revolution in 1780's??
You must work through your neighbors and friends and co-workers to bypass the mantra of the coporation, i.e.- the "State".
I can't get over this:
I get on Yahoo and the main article about the election results was by Associated Press and they didn't list Dr. Paul at all! Neither did the New York Times!
That is outrageous and I'm surprised there aren't more comments about it here. WE may know the MSM are dinosaurs, but a lot of voters won't even hear how well Ron Paul did becuse it wasn't reported.
If people never hear about RP, then how can they know enough to vote for him? We need to redouble our efforts, if the media won't do their job.
This means WAR! The Dinosaur Media are back to ignoring RP and it's not right.
Ron Paul 2008: The most important vote of your life
I feel your pain. But the
I feel your pain. But the only reason it isn't commented on more here on dp is, we are NOT SURPRISED at the blockout of Ron Paul by the OM.
We have written and bemoaned and boycotted about it ad nauseum.
I daresay, even if Dr Paul were to get first in a primary, the OM puppets would find some way to totally ignore the story. SERIOUSLY it is that blatant.
Thanks for your support...battle on we must...
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I am happy, but also frustrated with MSM
I noticed how they moved onto S.C., like Nevada was just some weird anomaly or something. I am very happy for Dr. Paul making it to 2nd in Nevada, the supporters there did a fantastic job getting the job done ! The MSM is such a sham, gads.
Show your support on the Ron Paul Map !
Lot of action on the eastern half of the USA right now.
http://www.pollingmatrix.... Mapping Ron Paul Supporters
fugadabudit.....
RP is the energizer - keeps on ticking
I sort of like being the pain in the butt to MSM....
we will prevail
we will pick up many of
the disaffected and disillusioned from both parties.
Paul beats Clinton in Nevada
These are the numbers to quote to friends who are skeptical about Dr. Paul's electibility--and these are the facts that the Paul campaign should rub in the media's face:
There is no doubt that Mitt Romney's Nevada victory was huge. But Dr. Paul's #2 spot in the Republican caucus earned him some mighty bragging rights.
Nevadans who voted for Paul: 6087.
Nevadans who voted for Clinton: 5355.
Nevadans whot voted for Obama and Edwards COMBINED: 5196.
These are not the numbers of a "fringe candidate" who stands no chance. In the swing state of Nevada, these are the numbers of a true patriot with a consistent message that earns him broad appeal.
The media has reported these numbers but won't be talking about them. It's up to us to get the message out.
My source, with 98% of Nevada's votes counted for the Dems and100% for theGOP, is the New York Times: http://politics.nytimes.c...
THAT 5035 FOR CLINTON WAS COUNTY DELEGATES and......
RSK not voters, unfortunately.
Apparently I'm mistaken
I wish I weren't--and no doubt so do all of you.
But how wonderful that here at the dailypaul we get to the bottom of things in a matter of minutes, and how wonderful that the truth--even when it's inconvenient--comes to light.
This is exactly the sort of intellectual honesty that makes us the winners in the long run, and this is just one of the very many reasons that I'm proud to join you all as a supporter of America through Dr. Paul.
Thanks for the timely corrections.
Not true
Dems tabulations are for delegates, republicans are actual votes. There were more (I believe a lot more) voters for the dems today, so both Hillary and Obama got many more votes.