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The puzzle which MUST to be solved: WHO is directing the anti Ron Paul Operation

Very powerful forces are behind this and it is an organized effort
They keep Ron Paul out of the MSM as much as possible - so they have power there.
They cause misreporting of his votes so they have state by state influence.
They are responsible for the Vote Fraud so whomever re-programs the machines is under their control.
This is a puzzle that MUST be solved.
Put the pieces toghether folks.

Who knows what? Who knows who did what? Please come out of the woodwork and report, anonimity is fine. Just think and report.

I can say with a great deal of certaintly that the initial programming of the machines is honest. The problems arise thereafter. Sorry my source must be protected.

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Stop Big Media

This is just going to get worse, the FCC approved new rules that will unleash a flood of media consolidation across America. The new rules will further consolidate local media markets -- taking away independent voices in cities already woefully short on local news and investigative journalism.

Congress has the power to throw out these rules -- and if hundreds of thousands of people demand it, they'll have to listen. Sign the open letter to Congress urging them to stop the FCC and stand with the public interest.

http://www.stopbigmedia.com/

No Direction Needed

I don't think that any individual or group is directing the attack on Ron Paul. Rather, I think that the attacks are coming from individuals and groups who are threatened by his message of freedom, honest money and Constitutional government.

Many people think that the word "conspiracy" means some type for secret organization where the participants receive messages from their superiors, directing their actions. Most conspiracies involve individuals and groups who don't necessarily have similar goals, but can benefit from working together behind the scenes.

When we see a connection between government and private interests, that should get our attention. When we see a group like the Council on Foreign Relations, which provide guidance for our politicians, writes policy for the Department of State, and "grooms" individuals for government service, which is also connected to major corporations, banking and the media, we can see common cause. CFR members in media ignore and lampoon Ron Paul because he threatens the profits of CFR corporate executives. Ron Paul is exposing the corruption within government, and the outright theft being perpetrated by the Federal Reserve.

Nobody has to direct the attacks on Ron Paul. These groups and individuals are smart enough to see that his message is exposing their criminal activites.

Disagree

This puzzle does not have to be solved. It is self-evident after this weekend and the resounding across-the-board silence re the 2nd place finish in Nevada. This issue is a nothing more than a distraction from the work effort required to get the message out...and get voters ready for the coming primaries.

It's simple.

The media and the political elite know that a majority of the people in this country will believe anything that they are told. The misinformation that we have all been fed since the advent of tv is one of the contributing factors.

I learned as a kid not to believe alot of what you hear, as my father told me, it is mostly lies. The lies we are fed on a daily basis are nothing more than an attempt to brain wash the whole country, just as the communist did in Russia. Lets not forget how the government and media used misinformation/propoganda to scare our parents and grandparents into believing that the communist wanted to take over this country. They scared the school children in the 1950's by having them hide under their desks during drills for a nuclear attack.

IMHO our biggest obstacales in getting RP elected are #1 The political elite. #2 The media ( this is the elites channel to misinform us ).
#3 The baby boomers who lived through the 1950's and have been brain washed into believing anything they hear or read ( I know that there are alot of baby boomers who support RP so please don't take offence. )

Here is an example of a past election that that the political elite, and the media used their tactics on. In 1964 the media thru the political elite, made alot of Americans believe Barry Goldwater ( who would have been one of our greatest presidents ) would push the button and start a nuclear war, thus giving Johnson the election. Lets not foget that they called Barry a nut case. If you go and look at some of Barry's speeches you will find that RP's message is not much different.

We have many obstacles in getting the RP message out, and we all have been working hard to do so. Please do not give up, for the sheeple will wake up.
Lets not forget they called our founding fathers crazy.

Here is a link to a youtube video of Barry's famous line from 1964.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_NXXDVtNbA

Give Me Freedom

If Tyranny And Oppression Come To This Land, It Will Be In The
Guise Of Fighting A Foreign Enemy. James Madison

Give Me Freedom

If Tyranny And Oppression Come To This Land, It Will Be In The
Guise Of Fighting A Foreign Enemy. James Madison

If We Have Racism We Will Not Have Freedom.
If We Have No Racism We Can Have Freedom
Quoted By: GIVE ME FREEDOM

maybe a clue....

I have suspected this, but hadn't seen this quote until recently:

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Former Director, CIA

http://www.strike-the-root.com/51/herman/herman5.html

some opinions of mine

1)The rest of the mainstream media is no better than Fox, they just target a different audience. If it was really about ratings, there would be a network that would jump on the Ron Paul campaign and cover it fairly, and they would be the most watched network news channel. That would be good business, if in fact they were really in the NEWS business and interested in COMPETING with a "rival" network.
Look at how much influence they have over the hearts and minds of the people! I think this campaign has awakened millions to some disturbing facts about the big media and newspaper press. We need to expose them for what they really are and rout them out.

2)We know about the lies and propoganda of the MSM, but there is also a lot of disinformation in the alternative media, meant to demoralize, marginalize, confuse and divide those who are naturally skeptical about what they are told by the establishment and MSM.

3)Last year I saw "September Clues" on youtube, and other videos and articles along that line of 9/11 research, (sometimes called tv fakery) and it seems like they make too good of a case to be dismissed. Look it up if you are interested in a whole different perspective on what happened that day.

We need to get people in office who will defend the Constitution and who can not be bought, who love truth and justice and want to keep America and her people FREE.

All the speculation about conspiracies and such should take a back seat to that, especially now while we have a chance to have one of us hold the highest elected office in the world!

We need to donate and tell as many people as we can about Ron Paul and not use the campaign to spread conspiracy theories or sell Alex Jones dvd's.
Study Ron Paul's writings and philosphies, economic and foreign policies and understand the Constitution, and be able to explain why they they are the answer to our problems.
The message unites us, whatever else we may believe - we have Ron Paul's message in common and that is what the campaign needs to stay focused on.

Bill Colby told me the same thing, also

That the reason was that Vietnam reporting caused the American people to turn against the war and forced the pull out.
It was determined then that what people saw had to be controlled.
After all we could have stayed in Vietnam longer with more deaths, right!

Eisenhower in his departing speech (before JFK came in) warned of the Industrial Military Complex. What he wanted to say was the Industrial Military Government Complex but his advisor's told him to take it out as it would make the people distrust their government processes.

Of course JFK wanting to get rid of the Fed, end the war in Vietnam and get rid of the CIA bought him a lot of problems.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrHmwiMgE74
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Watch and feel the power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's no mystery

There's no mystery really....

Just like forensic accounting, follow the money and ask who stands to benefit.

It's not you and me.

The politicians business, and media.

The do make a formidable opponent, however, they can be beaten. They have to be beaten. They will be beaten.

This isn't over with Super Tuesday or even the presidential election. Dr. Paul has started something that can't be stopped. I applaude everyone for taking the non-violent approach, I'm just not sure how long it will remain that way. As the outrages, fraud, and skullduggery against us increase I believe we'll start seeing some blowback. The kind we havn't seen since the real revolution.

When the Average Joe wakes

When the Average Joe wakes up and realizes how terribly he has been lied to for how long, and the reasons why begin to sink in past the smokescreens of "Radio Talk" (lobotomy rays beamed into your personal environments) and wacked out "Reality Programming"... and spoon fed garbage, half truths, idiot cliches, cheezeball paranoia and degenerate junko logic THEN was convinced this brainshit exemplified superior thinking and penetrating wisdom.... in other words, he has been made an absolute fool of.... he thought he had really "got it" and he was turned into little more than a media player stuck on shuffle and repeat... Average Joe is going to get real pissed and he's going to want some factual answers....

That's one side of the coin.....

The other side we already saw put forth by FDR and the new deal. When people were headed into a tough time rather than face it head on they begged the government to save them; so the government gave them what they asked for. It is very possible that we have the same out come this time. It would mean the end for freedom in the world.

There is no where to run the USA is it, if you disagree write where you would move to and state explicitly why you would have more Liberty there I doubt it can be found (I have looked)

Ignore them all.

For now, just know who your enemies are. Grow your base and always donate. Make this revolution as big as it can get. They are all greedy, selfish gangs. With a sheer number of members and a large voting block in the millions, they will come to serve you begging and walking on their knees.

You are seriously trying to figure this out?

Ron calls them out all the time. Who does Ron CONDEMN the most? Thats the question. The answer... THE FED!! No need to wonder any more.

VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!
I love you guys!!

part of a small problem

The Fed is only a small part of the overall huge global problem. Its a good place to start though.

It is a network

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You may have missed my blog of a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/17438

This should help you see things a bit more clearly. It's not one person, it's a huge network of "made" guys. Women too. Tough to oppose.

And yet, while they have influence, power and money, they do not have the people and this is our strength.

Keep the faith !

its not as secret as it

its not as secret as it appears. i note how in the past few days the m-Sm deliberate exclusions, is it backhanded after what happened jan. 5th? one thing that i am positive of is that 1st 3rd and 4th do not note newsworthy dissemination of information.

maybe i am too particular but i see the exclusion of 2nd place in Nevada much more than disrespect. beside media based violation of federal election law, i dont know how people are not going after these issues, theres a clear bias and there is a bias in media fund(bushco) and the elections.

i think that there are some candidates that are receiving uncounted funds and illicit M-Sm donations through airtime. how much is 30 second commercials worth or superbowl time.

for now union down

RP08

So What?

Debating this "puzzle" isn't going to help. It is what it is, this are our cards, what do we want to do---complain to the old Media??!!! We need to discuss how to WIN ANYWAY!! I think funding the campaign today is a good start........

answer

Please do something worthwhile - Do not waste your time.

OF COURSE THAT THERE IS CONSPIRACY TO KEEP RON PAUL OFF MASS MEDIA.AND EVEN WORSE, WE KNOW THAT.
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE: JUST SEARCH FOR 'ILLUMINATI" - THAT'S YOUR ANSWER.
WHAT YOU WANT TO DO ABOUT IT; REPORT IT TO AUTHORITIES !? THAT'S POSSIBLE ONLY AFTER CHANGE THE CHANGE OF ADMINISTRATION. THAT MEANS RON PAUL HAS TO WIN FIRST!!!

GET EVEN,
JOIN THE CAMPAIGN PRECINCT LEADER PROGRAM . THERE IS 180,000 DISTRICTS IN THE COUNTRY AND CAMPAIGN WAS ABLE SO - FAR RECRUIT ONLY 8,000 PRECINCTS LEADERS. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FROM THE AMOUNT OF ENERGY DISPLAYED HERE ON DAILYPAUL WE COULD DO MUCH BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STOP WASTING YOUR ENERGY - DO SOMETHING WORTHWHILE.

I beg to differ just a little

Informing ourselves is never a waste of time.

As far as everything else you mentioned, you are 100% correct. We MUST be all over these primaries and caucuses! These people MUST know we mean business and that we won't allow them to trample all over us.

There's a proposal going through congress to get rid of these nasty electronic machines and go back to paper ballots. It may be worthwhile if you support this to call and email your reps and let them know what you think.

JB

"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."

Remember Hitler? It's the guys that put him in power

and gave him whatever he needed. Why did they do it? Among other things, they needed to get rid of the peaceful jews and replace the jewry with a "better" lineage of warrior jews. And the State of Israel was created to confine the rest of them, always under threat, always in fear.

Follow the rabbit hole through this URL and you'll find out how deep it goes. I'm sure that even if you have heard or read about the Bilderberg Group and the Rothschilds you'd be astounded by this timeline account:

http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Rothschild-timeline.htm

You may want to save it.

And if that's not enough red pill for you, check out these other 2 in order so as not to spoil the end of the story. One tip: drugs are involved! Lots of drugs!

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/261.html

http://fromthewilderness.com/members/110206_living_mike.php

The blue pill is your denial of the facts. Your pick!

JB

"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."

I am of the opinion that

I am of the opinion that anyone who dismisses conspiracy outright is naive. All conspiracy means is that 2 or more people plan to do an illegal or immoral act. To assume people within government, media and other pillars of society are excempt from conspiracy is to bury ones head in the sand and ignore the facts of history. However - people do tend to dismiss them outright when there is little evidence for them - when they are "theories" based on wild claims and/or little evidence. Another reason to dismiss them, especially in regards to government and media - is simply because it is more comfortable emotionally to do so. Uncovering a conspiracy in a powerful institution means a responsibility to do something about it, with possible or probable consequences to oneself.

The answer to your question about the media and who the conspirators are: It is those who hold controlling stakes in these organsations that Paul opposes. As I've stated here recently, the consolidation of mainstreme media into 6 monstrous corporations is no accident. It could not happen in a truly fair free market economy, where competition for dollars keeps organisations in check, and government is limited to it's proper role of protecting that free market economy, among other things, such as individual rights. It can and does happen, however, with cabals and monopolies.

The biggest monopoly in the US and most western nations has to do with who issues the money. The money supply is not static - it grows. How? Through the banking system. Where does the $ come from? Banks are legally allowed to create it based on a fraction of their deposits. They collect interest on money they create and loan out. This monopoly has been concentrated in the NY banks since 1913, through the passage of the Fed Reserve System.

This monopoly gives them tremendous advantage in the marketplace, to buy controlling interests in any and all power structures, especially the mainstreme media. Since the stock ownership of the Fed is private, and since stock ownership in general is private - there is no way to pinpoint individuals - except perhaps some like David Rockefellar who have in moments of arrogance, spilled the beans, or admitted to it, as he did in his memoirs. He is not alone though.

This monopoly in and of itself is very powerful, has huge amounts of money to spend and obviously would be threatened by RP.

But more to the point, I think anyone who has a $ interest threatened by RP's policies or views might be motivated to do something nefarious about it. That includes obviously big banks, the military industrial complex, those who depend on subsidies, those who lobby in Washington for handouts - alot of people. To pinpoint one is a waste of time - you have to educate the people about the system, you have to educate people especially about the monetary system.

To this end, this speech is worth listening to, and passing on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3TAh1gy6rc

1st of 7 parts.

Ignorance and greed!

The same darkness that has always plagued humanity....you know, that bully little shit in your kindergarten class etc....pick a name....there are a lot of misguided folk out there....but, more on the side of good!

Shine some light and the darkness will dissipate!

censorship??

maryj Yes censorship exists and Ron Paul is being censored.

The oil and financial interest controlling this country want to continue to control our thinking via TV, Radio, Schools, papers, magazines, etc, etc etc.

check out this censorship on energy ******to free you from the utility company, the gas stations, the power companys etc, etc, etc.*****
www.josephnewman.com
www.deliberatedumbingdown.com
www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzPXer7946E Hacking america

These web site are excellent sources of needed information.

Liberty is our campaigns gift to the world it is our manifest destiny.
Freedom is a movement who's time has come. Our campaign will lead world wide freedom.

I AM!!!

MWHAHAHAHAHA!!!

EDIT: The thread title kind of makes it look like the World Health Organization is out for Paul.

negative

Why is this negative post still here it should be removed.
This is a Ron Paul support site.

Liberty is our campaigns gift to the world it is our manifest destiny.
Freedom is a movement who's time has come. Our campaign will lead world wide freedom.

Put the bong down...

and take off your tinfoil hat.

You think Ron Paul is censored???

Look what your tax dollars paid for today and your news didn't report

http://rafah.virtualactivism.net/news/todaymain.htm

Project For the New American Century

The person who posted a comment with this title listed the wrong names. For correct information, see these two URLs:

http://www.csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/index.html (click on the faces to read bios)

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Bushletter-040302.htm (scroll down to the signatures)

The hidden portions of the URLs are:
- csmonitor.com/specials/neocon/index.html
- newamericancentury.org/Bushletter-040302.htm

I'm baptist-evangelical christian

I have question to all, do we have here member of masonic lodge or Mormon like Ron Paul supporter?

Project For A New American Century

maryj PNAC Your education will be worth it!!!
www.pnacitizen.org
www.blacklistednew.com
www.pnacitizen.org/massmedia.html
Great information for those that really want to understand what is going on.

Liberty is our campaigns gift to the world it is our manifest destiny.
Freedom is a movement who's time has come. Our campaign will lead world wide freedom.

PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY

they are the people with theMOST to lose,so how could it not be them?PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY DICK CHENEY,RUMSFELD,BUSHES,ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK THE USA TO THE WAR IN IRAQ ALL THE NUKE DEALING NEOCONS OR SO SIBEL EDMUNDS WENT PUBLIC WITH LAST WEEK IN THE LONDON TIMES SAYS BRAD BLOG

PNAC member Daniel Pipes

Just google:
daniel pipes+rose fleming

That's The Ones, You Nailed It -- A Major Contributor

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Although the PNAC organization as such no longer exists, it's membership is still around -- still very closely tangled up in the current administration and interested others.

It's evil is reflected by membership // Not to be contradictory, but it's evil and purpose transcends beyond PNAC and any organization -- It's PNAC, and yet it's more // Its interest is far more.

So interested in fact that one has to question WHY they can say and do as they do with complete protection? // the answer is simple, it's because THEY are in control.

And being in control THEY like it there and certainly are in no great hurry to relinquish that control. Why would they be? They wouldn't, and they aren't going away, not anytime soon. They got control through what can only best be described as criminal activity (but it makes little to no difference because they are there to protect their cause and further their intent) and since they are the ones in control -- what chance to any of us that have 'high hopes' actually have?

Voter fraud, other serious crimes -- so what? Those and other serious matters have already occurred -- Do you see anybody actually doing anything about it? I'd like to think I'm wrong -- but I don't believe I am.

Impeachment is off the table. Attack first (Afghanistan and Iraq) and don't answer questions later unless it is to foster a lie.

Gangsters got hold of our government years ago, folks, and they have only grown stronger. PNAC (absorbed inside the long standing AEI) has proved to be not in the best interest of the United States // but it has assumed the role as our government officials in many cases (hiding in plain sight, there in Congress and elsewhere making decisions that affect us all -- some of which has us at war now and rumors of war) // what do you think we stand to lose or gain by being asleep to the truth of this?

Vote Ron Paul 2008. But then we NEED to make damn sure those votes are accurately counted and reflected or else move over for the likes of another BUSH and/or CLINTON in the White House.

Don't mean to sound so negative, I live here too you know, and I want what's best for my country also -- it's not another BUSH and/or CLINTON // You can believe me saying that.

Vote RON PAUL 2008

This was FULLY expected

WE went through this with PJB, and we fully expected to go through this with RP.

The question is, educating people. There is no conspiracy, it's a fact that there is a concerted effort to keep anyone out who isn't a part of the 'club'.

I am having trouble posting right now, but when I can, will post this whole story and video on the front page. For now you'll have to read it on my blog.

http://www.janeaitken.org/concord/?p=179

Who is directing the Ron Paul Rloveution ?

Is our movement being directed by some central Svengali ?

Obviously not .

So why believe our opponents are any more centrally directed ?

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Bob Armstrong -- www.CoSy.com : APL2007/OOPSLA followup
www.SerfCity.US Logic of Liberty : Ron Paul and the end of the Broadcast Age

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Bob Armstrong -- www.CoSy.com : APL2007/OOPSLA followup
www.SerfCity.US Logic of Liberty : Ron Paul and the end of the Broadcast Age

The elusive "who" question

First let me say to all who do not believe in the conspiracies that others believe in, that is fine. We all come from different perspectives but we all share one thing in common, we want a president who is honest and trustworthy. It comforts those who believe there are sinister forces at work to know that an honest man is in office as well as those who do not believe that.

Second. Let me say for the record that if you are listening to all those who are teaching that there is a conspiracy, you need to cut it out. Don't listen to what they say, research what they say. Keep in mind that many people have researched these topics and you don't see them bull horning people on busy street corners.Take into considerations the personality of the people you are listening to as some of them (naming no names) might be acting on motives that are not pure.

I think this is probably one of the most fundamental questions one can ask but also the most misunderstood. I personally believe that you will never understand "who" unless you understand "why". The only way you will understand why is to read the books of the people in the establishment. If you do you will see that they are not seeking merely money and power. Those are perks. They are seeking the fulfillment of a Utopian vision which started during the enlightenment period. They want to create their vision of a perfect world and most are given this vision in the major universities they attend. Of course, they are going to labor for this cause and therefor see nothing wrong with being the beneficiaries of the wealth and power. That is how the agendas can move forward on such a massive level. It is an idealistic world view which they are pursuing individually and as groups. There is not a small group of people running things at the very top, it is a big group of people scattered throughout society seeking the same aims. My opinion.

There is a most errrrr...

There is a most errrrr... Illuminating documentary made by the BBC, titled:

The Century Of The Self

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/features/century_...

All Paulites would be well advised to sit down with their friends and families and watch this thing through....

That is the great thing about this site

All the must read and see. Thanks to all that inform!! You Rock!

Leave the conspiracy theories out of the RP campaign

You heard RP in the debate attempting to distance himself from the 9/11 Truth movement. There is a reason, it will hurt his campaign to believe in this type of rhetoric. We do not want RP to be associated with this. This is because possible voters will think he is a loon and not vote for him. Wait to throw out you conspiracy theories until after he is elected, when he can actually do something. Now is not the time.

The CFR is a "conspiracy of ideas" - Paul

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Learning about the CFR might be a good thing. They are steering things politically, and have since the 1920s.

http://www.dailypaul.com/node/17438

Homework is good.

True

Doing our homework is important. I myself am fully aware of CFR, PNAC, and all the other elements we are fighting against. Politically; however, it is not a good a idea to use these in the campaign as most Americans are unfamiliar or unwilling to accept this. These ideas will only hurt RPs campaign if they are associated with him. Politics is a game best played this way.

Yikes

This thread seems to attract a lot of otherwise quiet members and it's a little scary to see that so many of you believe in these conspiracies. You have the right to believe what you want, but this is the equivalent of putting your head in the sand or taking the ball and going home. If you believe there's a conspiracy and the result is pre-ordained then why are still involved? I hope this is just a way of letting off steam. Throwing out wild theories does nothing to improve Dr. Paul's electoral prospects.

Yikes is right...

Its funny that you mention heads in the sand because I am actually trying to get people to pull theirs out. I do indeed believe their is a great conspiracy going on and i do believe that elections in the past haven't mattered much. This one is different. I think we can all at least agree on that. Its as simple as this when it all boils down to it. Ron Paul is for real. His message is real it is attracting a growing number of concerned Americans across the nation. If we stand up together and make our voices loud enough we cannot be ignored. That is why i'm voting for and donating money to Ron Paul. The original question at the start of the thread was as follows:

The puzzle which MUST to be solved: WHO is directing the anti Ron Paul Operation

I truly believe to answer to this question you have to understand the whole problem on a larger level. Put aside your pre-programmed concepts about how everything works and go study some of the material i stated in my original post. Watch the entire movie zeitgeist at www.zeitgiestmovie.com and if everything i say still sounds like wild theories with no basis in reality then so be it.

Conspiracy Theory

Definition:
Conspiracy = A coordinated effort by 2 or more people to commit an act or complete a common goal

Theory = The basis of the Scientific Method where possible solutions for a given problem are formulated before moving on to the research and verification stage of determining Truth

I think the common conception of the "Conspiracy theorist" is more conspiratorial than the theories pursued in many cases.

Is there more than 1 working toward stopping Ron Paul? Of course! When I stopped at Comma Coffee to see Dr Paul we had a great number of Hitlery supporters drive by and flip us off or give us thumbs down. That is a conspiracy. The Ron Paul revolution is a conspiracy.

I think what most people mean by "Conspiracy theorist" would be more properly called "Paranoid conspiracy theorist".

I can't wait to see that buzz word statement put in its place rather than used as a derogatory term for "Researcher of unpopular ideas". But that time is not now. We have greater battles that need our full attention and dedication.

We need Ron Paul in the oval office...everything else that is not of immediate importance can sit on the back burner.

The Illumaniti

I know this will sound crazy but hear me out and most importantly check out the video sources that I list below. The Illuminati are the real forces behind ALL major global activity. This includes the activities of the United States. Alot of the family names mentioned earlier in this thread are members of this secret society. They have carefully selected every president we have had since the 60's at least. The elections since those years have been an illusion of choice with whichever candidate you end up with serving the same masters. Ron Paul is most certainly not one of their lackeys and that is why from their point of view he must fail. Enter in the media blackouts and blatant lies told on the networks (which they own all of). Anyway theres no one source that has made me come to the conclusions that i have listed above but it all started with the movie Zeitgeist. You can watch this movie for free online at www.zeitgeistmovie.com. This movie closely examines religion and history and much of the activities of the international banking cartel known as the federal reserve bank. After watching this go to google video and type in the names Jordan Maxwell, Bill (or William) Cooper, or Fritz Springmeier.
All of these guys can shed alot of light on what is wrong with the world in general today. Incidentally Fritz Springmeier is in prison now proclaiming his innocence in a bank robbery conviction (they control the courts) and Bill Cooper was shot in the head and killed by his local county sheriff's department for no real good apparent reason that i have been able to find. Also check out www.infowars.com, www.prisonplanet.com. and http://moviesfoundonline.com/documentaries.php. I know it all sounds crazy it did to me at first also. I just started researching these things about 6 months ago and the more i research into it the more i see pieces of a very large puzzle starting to form. Anyway thanks for your time if you read all of this. Questions, comments, rants, or suggestions to check myself into an asylum can all be sent to lost.liberty@hotmail.com

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alleged central direction of anti-Ron Paul activities

The observer is certainly correct that there is a concerted effort to derail the Ron Paul candidacy and his message of freedom. This effort is from various people having different interests and points of view but who are well placed throughout major newsmedia, academia, the higher levels of the civil serivice, the major donors of both the Dumbercrats and Rebooblicans, and the banking/finacial/regulatory system funded altogether by funny money of the Federal Reserve (and similar central bank apparatus overseas).

Ron Paul's quest for the Presidency(along with his fantastic ability to draw attention and support) is starting to be a threat to them!

There is also a substantial degree of overlap among the personnel in the entitites ( both governmental and corporate) involved, along with fora for informal coordination of their activities, such as the Bilderberg Group, the Trilateral Commission, and the European Union.

To call it a conspiracy,however, may be attributing too much to them. They are simply self-interested individuals who profit (enormously) from the current system, and are as resolutely determined to keep their place at the gravy train of tax and funny money funded privilege as so many pigs at the feeding trough.

Ron Paul, by his insistance that their tool of exploitation of the rest of us--the government of the USA--be limited to its constitutional extent and authority would clearly upset their gravy train. They would have to compete honestly in a free market and acquire private property through trade, gift, or similary voluntary contract like everyone else, and their billlions of $$$ would naturally go to more deserving people!

It behooves us to remember a French predecessor of Ron Paul who said that "the state is that fictitious entity by which everyone seeks to live at the expense of everyone else"---Federic Bastiat. While conspiracies are involved, the main problem is their access to the political means of obtaining wealth. Their plunder of the rest of us is perhaps more closely akin to the devastation of a plague of locusts inflicted on the crops of hard working farmers and merchants. The locusts act from no central direction, they attack the crops because they can!!

PEACE AND FREEDOM!!
David K. Meller

...explain the lack of support for the Constitution?

...your argument is as flawed as your ignorance. How could any Patriotic American NOT choose to abide by and support the Constituion? How? Because they are not being informed that it is being trampled upon and they are not educated enough to understand what is happening to their Liberties. You sir, are not part of the solution, you are part of the coverup. Ron Paul's message is his strength. He has sad many times that it is the message, not the messenger, that needs to be addressed. If RP is the problem why doesn't the MSM just discuss the Constitution instead to ensure it is kept intact? Why? Because there is no money in that, sir! You just go right ahead supporting your slick, beltway politicians and when they come for you no one will be there to protect you. You have made sure of that with your apathetic ignorance. You can depend on them, and their millions, to feed and clothe you. My only regret is that I have but one life to give for my Country.

O Captain! My Captain! Rise up and hear the bells!

People who write things like

People who write things like you are the ignorant ones. Name calling went out of style about the 3rd grade.

Ron Paul 2008

You really want to know?

Go to You Tube or Google Video and type in "the Money Masters." It's about a 3 hour video on the history of banking and it provides the names of the families we, in America, have been enslaved to since the beginning of the 20th Century.

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"the only thing that keeps the banking system from failing is general ignorance about how the banking system works."
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