Jane Aitken who and where are you ?

a subdirectory on my website as a central place for some of the things we need to work together on, ideals, teaching others how to recruit, future momeybombs, etc..just let me know by emailing me.

Bishop Kinley

The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. James Madison

I don't even know how to check my e-mail on here.

Dan McCarthy has been hired by HQ to moderate this blog on the official RP campaign site. You would have an ear closer to the campaign HQ on this forum. It's still not that busy and I think it will get a busier as we move along. Dan seems to reply directly to any questions or new threads. Check it out....

http://people.ronpaul2008...

The only way we can lose is to forget that we are winning!

If you want to be directed to do something, like someone else said, sign up at www.RonPaul2008.com. They have the information you need to become a Precinct Leader. Yes, you'll have to work a little, but if your plan is just to stay home on your butt, what direction do you really need?

If you don't want to be a P.L., join and attend your local Meetup Group, where they will have informative meetings, marches, etc. They may even ask you to become a Precinct Leader through www.RonPaul2008.com.

As far as donating, no one really needs to be told when to do that. But, all the money bombs have been pretty successful! I'm happy with the results from all of them, and I think overall... and as a country... we have done remarkably well to schedule them and make them successful.

As far as what website are real or not...
If you are at a site asking you to pledge, and it doesn't tell you make your donation at www.RonPaul2008.com (actual page is www.RonPaul2008.com/donat... ), then it's not a legit site.

The Ron Paul Limo is awesome, but I don't know if the "Ron Paul Rewards" is on the up-and-up. I do know that school sometimes sale those discount cards for fundraising, so it may not be exactly a MLM scam. But, I'd like to see a large portion (50%) go to the campaign, the blimp, and other initiatives. LOL... at this rate, maybe it could go to a recount in Nevada.

Yes, the Ron Paul Limo should be the primary source of funds for a recount in every state. (joking)

Get everyone in your meetup to become precinct leaders.
Print out the lists -go canvas. If you're a super tuesday state do this now. Very easy, just do it.

HQ has given us all this responsibilty and its a great way to get the vote. We have over 100,000 people in meetup groups and only 9,000 are signed up. We need our precinct leader participation to reflect how well we want to do in the polls. Less than 10% ain't going to cut it.

The official campaign seems to repel organization. Of course this is what we want and what the campaingn needs but in the next two weeks it won't happen. The campaign has gone farter than I ever thought but there hasn't been anything to leverage the volunteers, money and message all second to none. Oh well. We are were we are, and will have to go on from here. The almost complete lack of organization worries me for holding things together win or lose after the election. Everyone will go in a zillion directions and burn out. There is no need for anyone to conspire against a movement like that, it will fail on its own.

I'll put this up here.

Well what we were talking about was not just a material thing. We need someone to give us direction. A central location if you will of what is real and what is not. What is offical ect. A place to combine the strength of the collective supporters. We suffer from a strong case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing. With the 400 diffrent RP sites out there for example there are also 400 diffrent e-mail lists ect. If just one county misses something important we can blow the state.

See where I am going with this . The Grass roots is crying for a leadership so to speak. And since we cant really directly converse with the offical campaign I think our current strength will start working for us again. People trust This Trevor fellow because we took a chance and he is proven. But he cannot do it all and does not have the experiance to run a national campaign.

Alot of our efforts do not even get off the ground because there are soo many ideas out there that no one knows whats legit ect. All the scam posts are counter productive. I can't even imagine how many RP supporters did not even know about the money bomb today because thier little web site that they think may be the only one or for whatever reason only goto that one did not cover it.

This is about alot more then just web sites. We have alot of people going to their gardner for law advice so to speak. So Yes this is a plea from me to you to point us in the right direction.

I do not pretend to know what I am doing but I do know that we need to be run like a buisness if we want to be taken seriously.

I think the meetups are great. I think organizing works best on that level. You know what will work best in your area.

...they hired someone to reach out to the grassroots, Dan McCarthy to do just this. His job is to connect to the grassroots. He called me his first day on the job and I basically told him all I posted here. I think his job is to take all the suggestions and worries and hopes and questions from the grassroots and get the answers. This is far better than having thousands of you contact the HQ to get the same information.

Now having said that...things you can do without direction from official are speak to coalition groups such as homeschoolers, elderly/rest homes, veterans groups, right to life, churches, and of course every single town, city, state and county GOP event and meeting that exists in your state. Even if you are not going to speak because you are not an official staffer, it doesn't hurt to join and attend meetings even if you just sit and participate with your RP button on. You must simply populate the places where political animals gather. You can still TALK to people during the social time. It's not enough to do sign waves --- you don't even know if those people vote.

If your state has not voted yet, and there is a deadline for registration or switching, this is also info you must get out.

Call local radio shows to talk about this, even if you don't mention RP. Talk about the ISSUES. IF it comes up in the conversation, then mention him very matter of factly..you can call CSPAN too.

As one other poster put it, if you are going to be top tier then act like top tier.
Perception is everything. Remember how they got them to vote for McCain; Joe Lieberman and all the liberal papers. A scam I know, but it worked.

As I said before, you want some direction but you can also do things that are productive without it, and for people who don't like centralization, you certainly don't want to be pestering HQ for every little thing. When I was out on the road this past summer, I only called the NH HQ guy to report 'news' I thought was interesting, new possible endorsers, and if I had questions about legality, or whatever.

I like what I am reading in this thread. This is probably the most important thread that I have read on this site since I joined here.

I would like to know, do you, or does anyone reading this, know of anyone that has handled a task like this before? Just how does one bring together so many different independent sites, blogs, forums, etc into one coherent and organized force?

IT's a great idea, but a monumental task from my perspective. One of the primary things that many Ron Paul supporters have in common is our determined independence. How does one get so many free-spirits organized and FOCUSED?

I am sure that there is someone out there that knows how to do this. And I am PRETTY sure that many of us would gladly chip in to pay this person, since this would require full time attention.

So, anyone got any names?

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"It is useless for sheep to pass a resolution in favor of vegetarianism while wolves remain of a different opinion." William Randolph Inge

and I agree. The grassroots supporters are in place. What we need now is greater national organization, especially for transmitting urgent messages. Harnassing all the supporters under one roof, though, is it possible?

As for Jane Aitken to lead this, she seems capable, credible. Is she also able, willing?

there needs to be a real organizer for it

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" Thomas Jefferson

bump for Jane. Thanks for all you have done for this country. You're a hero to us all.

-dave

I am and will remain unpaid help to the campaign. You couldn't pay me enough to take some of the nonsense the paid staffers have to put up with. I mean, just for carrying messages back to the grassroots from the source, I have been called a traitor, neocon scum, GOP apologist, been threatened, lied about, um NUH-UH, I am not going to subject myself to this.

I did suggest a better name for today's money bomb and was told to shut up...so there you have it. Experienced? Oh well, the complainers, some who have never even voted before, know better what to do!