
getting ready for hard times
Submitted by alienlve on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 11:39
i am avid a.jones listener and keep open mind these days.i am also single mom of five,,,,,,,last summer i lost my job in asheville,n.c. and shortly thereafter my car died and so had to make hasty decision to cut losses gather up what savings i had and move back to rural upstate new york where my family is from, its turned out to be a blessing, ive been expecting the market crash but honestly not until summer or fall, i do believe this was orchestrated by the govt. ,perpepuated by the fed ( ie. fake stimulus in form of interest rate cuts) with the ultimate goal to sink the dollar. the following and predictable rioting in the streets could serve a handy little premise for georgy bush to declare martial law and suspend elections.......please i beg all of you, begin storing food,,,,rice, beans, tuna, energy bars, dried fruit....... if you have a bit of dirt, plant some vegetables this spring,if youve firearms, make sure they are in good working order and stock up on ammunition , get a good water filter, mend your own clothes, save every penny you can and work for ron paul campaign like your lives depend on it,,,,,,,,it really does..........















Saul4Paul = Tallrider = Mildew
Oh No, he's baaaaaackk!
This person is like mildew: you can get rid of it for a while, but it always eventually comes back to annoy.
Attend a brainwashing cult of your choice any old day.
haha....
ignore saul, hes some spoiled kid who in between jerking off in his moms basement likes to try to bash people on DP.
I mean, I've seen some trolls on here that are actually pretty funny, but saul's not even creative. Tin foil hats? boy if thats not the most cliche attack ever i dont know what is.....come on saul you can do better than that........
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Ron Paul
Don't forget this very important item,check the website...
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin-foil_hat
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
Unfortunately Saul4paul thinks he's going to be raptured
He forgets the part of standing before his maker and being asked "what did you do to stop it?"
He will reply "I sat on the Daily Paul forum and tried to act cute,instead of getting out on the street and spreading the message of Dr. Paul."
then a big trap door will open and he will fall into hell....just kidding..well not really....anyway off to canvass in this Texas weather..
shame on you
shame on you saul,,,,,,,for someone who likes to run about hiding behind mask of God and religion, you seem to have a very petty and cruel side,,,,maybe you should attend a church of your choice hey?
from ronpaulforums.com......
the first 100 items to go in a national emergency....
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=99795
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Ron Paul
thank you haightashbury
very good link,,,,,,,what a list hey? ill pass that one along,,,,,thanks again
Don't buy too many beans
Be realistic. If things get REALLY bad you will be under great stress. Your appetite will be affected and beans are hard to eat. So eat them now and buy some extra "comfort foods" for when you will need them Things that won't need cooking and that pack well.
If you've never grown a garden, forget about that as an emergency food source. Rather, plant a garden now to learn for the future and, more importantly, to create a place of peace and healing for yourself.
Canning foods destroys many of the nutrients and requires supplies and fuel. Try to eat with the seasons. Meats, nuts, sprouts, potatoes, cabbage in the winter. Eggs, dairy and vegetables in the summer. Learn how to preserve without a refrigerator using salt, oil, sandboxes, etc.
Don't forget to stock up on essentials like oil, salt, sugar, coffee, ketchup, flour.
good advice
i personally am okay to eat beans and rice a lot but i am vegetarian anyhow,,,,,good advice on your entry,,,and i agree with paulite below, berkey water filters are the best, can make swamp water drinkable.....really,,,,,take care and keep waking people up
You Speak the truth ......
It's us against the world ....
Hopefully we can elect Ron Paul
Restore The Republic Now !
stock up all you can.....
Here's a couple reasons right here why you would be well advised not to trust the government:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84
I don't understand people who have so much blind trust in their government....i guess the media status quo makes them feel all warm and gooey inside.
Here's what happens when a government really stops respecting people's rights:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Ron Paul
I recommend (for water filter)
Berkey light systems
Their great!
Darn, what am I going to do...
when McDonald's "Value" Meal #1 is $9?
R3VOLUTION - Secret Crowds
I stopped eating at McDonalds!
I was there and got my meal at 11:55 PM and 5 minutes later I was told that I had to leave! After some discussion, it became obvious that they weren't supposed to sell me food after 11:40 PM and they broke their own rule; After some more discussion, they refused to refund the price of my meal; instead, they wanted me to pack it up and carry it home in 5 degree weather!
Overall, it's been a blessing! Now I eat at local places! And, really,"value mean #2" is over $7 since I would buy a desert too! When I realized that the cost of food at better restaurants was not that much more, I didn't look back!
Fellow Upstater
Great post from a fellow upstater (Utica area). I wouldn't want to be anywhere else when the feces contact the oscillating cooling device. I would recommend everyone here heed this advice. It will not take long for the store shelves to become bare.
To Saul...we appreciate and respect your beliefs but let's limit this to political discourse. Please remember Separation of Church and State.
My Family is in Brantingham up by Boonville.
Where are you guys? Hows the support for Paul up there? Not much from what I hear?
working on it
we do have meet ups here, in fact new one started in ogdensburg and we are doing our best to get the name out.......its a struggle against mainline media but i suppose all good things must be fought for .....how are things where you are....i encourage everyone to listen to alex jones , you can access his talk show from his site on infowars.com,,,,,,,,he definitely has a very good perspective on whats happening today........good luck, stay safe,,,,do not trust your government till ron paul is elected
Ok..as long as...
...you understand there is no such animal as "Separation of Church and State" care to show me where it's at?? A quote maybe? Is this what you call "Separation of Church and State?...
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…"
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin-foil_hat
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
right on
thanks for nice post, i keep talking about it because its my duty. even if i piss people off or they laugh at me or worse, i planted a seed, it might save their life one day,,,so i keep talking,,,,,,,you know we upstaters are like old pieces of leather,,,just keep getting tougher
good for you alienlve
Getting prepared now is not hoarding. It will actually ease the load on the system when unprepared people like saul4paul and pajeff scramble to hoard "after" the crisis becomes plainly apparent to even the lowest common denominator of society.
Keep up the good work trying to inform people of what might lay ahead sooner than we think. They sure aren't getting any facts from school, media and "officials" in govt. Just don't tell others where you hide it or they will lead a posse to take it from you later.
What a shame that old fashioned preparers are laughed at, savers are decimated by dollar inflation and those with assets are preyed upon by trial lawyers, tax agents and common thieves today when the potential fall for society as a whole for not being prepared is so great.
.
.
.
Washington doesn't need more lawyers.
It needs a doctor!
Dr. Ron Paul *** RX for Freedom
Washington doesn't need more lawyers.
It needs a doctor!
Dr. Ron Paul *** RX for Freedom
What I don't understand
is people making fun or attacking preparedness ?? I mean, what's wrong with being prepared and then you and your family will be self reliant instead of depending on the government to bail you out. Isn't that what we are about?
That's how they used to do it before we became suckling calves on the government tit.
start buying weapons and brying them in hidden places
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" Thomas Jefferson
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" Thomas Jefferson
We are stocking
up. You know people in the 1800's always put food up for the winter. Our family growing up always had a garden and we canned. This not having any food stored up is a relatively new thing. Our society eats fast food and junk food and most people haven't a clue what to do in an emergency. Just look at the Katrina mess.
Any good online sources you
Any good online sources you recommend for tips on canning techniques? I'd like to learn.
My Dad
recommended the Foxfire series. This is a series of eleven books, originally produced as a quarterly magazine by a high school teacher and his ninth and tenth grade students in Northeast Georgia, in the Appalachian Mountains. It includes interviews with the older community residents of the area, folklore and material culture. Beside the intriguing folklore, each book contains a wealth of information about lost crafts and skills we may need in the future. A few of the subjects include: building a log cabin, chimney building, soap making, cheese making, making chairs, preserving fruit, home remedies, hunting, gardening, midwifing, wagon making, animal care, hide tanning, blacksmithing, horse trading, shoe making, water systems, a water-powered saw mill, etc
Lost arts that we should pass down because you never know when things won't be available at Walmart.
your dad
...was a very wise man, i stumbled across the foxfire series some time back, what a wealth of knowledge and lesson in the goodness of simple life..........you are right on the money
hey honey
i actually did come across some how to can lessons on youtube of all places,,,,good basic lessons........can i also suggest when you buy food, aim for most nutrition, least additives chemicals etc, and longest shelf life....dried beans and rice can keep you going a long time and stay relatively healthy as when you combine them, they form a complete protein.....also you can make your own beef jerky in dehydrator or very low oven heat overnite .........funny, fifty years ago storing food was common sense, now it s paranoia.....and dont even get me started on katrina.........good luck
Here's a good site I came across doing research for a book..
http://www.endtimesreport.com/
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin-foil_hat
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
alien, ignore some of these fools (especially saul)
They still have an unhealthy faith that the state acts in America's best interest. There is nothing wrong with being prepared.
Secondly, many here are the types that think anything outside of the status quo is a "conspiracy", and should be immediately dismissed. I know what you are talking about, all the FEMA camps, and I've even seen an interview with a head FEMA guy talking about them (he refuses to say how many there are, and also refuses to say why he cant say how many there are...)! He claims they are there in case of "emergencies" so they can lock up and control massive groups of people to "protect them from themselves". Germany anyone?
No, no, no, of course that couldn't happen here! Our beloved government would never do that to us!......sarcasm aside, what makes you think they care about you? They are busy torturing and murdering innocent Iraqis for a pretty penny, and you think they would never turn on you if they could??? How naive!
Alien, I'm with you 100% on this one. If people want to live in fantasy land and ignore the threat that has been mobilized against us, then they will bear the consequences.
"Truth is treason in the empire of lies." - Ron Paul
The Mormons Been Practicing This For Years
Vote RON PAUL 2008
Vote RON PAUL 2008
There is plenty of food and water, let's not hoard.
A rich man had a fertile farm that produced fine crops. In fact, his barns were full to overflowing. So he said, “I know! I’ll tear down my barns and build bigger ones. Then I’ll have room enough to store everything. And I’ll sit back and say to myself, ‘My friend, you have enough stored away for years to come. Now take it easy! Eat, drink, and be merry!’”
But God said to him, “You fool! You will die this very night. Then who will get it all?” Yes, a person is a fool to store up earthly wealth but not have a rich relationship with God.” (Luke 12:16–21).
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin-foil_hat
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
have you read
have you read Cadillac Desert: The American West and Its Disappearing Water?
and what about Drought Could Force Nuke-Plant Shutdowns?
or what about Ethanol's Water Shortage?
NO PLACE IS SAFE! Man's appetite for water is sucking it up faster than global warming!
huh??????????
dont think the lord wants us to starve either saul
All I'm saying is have a Rich relationship with G_d first.
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin-foil_hat
G_d bless
Attend a Church of your choice this Saturday
first paycheck of every
first paycheck of every month I buy a box of shells and a case of canned goods. Don't kid yourselves, if Ron Paul doesn't get elected we will need these things. If he does get elected I can give the canned goods to charity.
smart of you
you get it,,,,,,,,you must realize if ron paul not elected to office, all hell will open up by the end of the year im pretty sure,,,,,,,its going to be bad , really bad,and thanks to bush's second ammendment to the patriot act i will probably be labeled dissident and well, i dare not say what will happen then...and lets not forget what georgy did to habeus corpus and posse commitatus.........oh and lets not forget those really nice "camps" good ole fema has been busy building........look it up folks before you give me a hard time
Having provisions on hand
Is always a smart thing to do and it has nothing to do with being negative but being responsible for yourself. It does't matter if it is economic or a natural disaster, everybody thinks they can always to the ATM, get gas, go to the store, have electricity, etc. whenever they want or some government agency is going to come to the rescue. Katrina should have been a wake up call to that.
Thanks to those who keep bringing up the subject of survival
I have been preaching this to my family for a couple months now. Some people think this will be a mild recession--possibly at first--but there is nothing mild about a massively inflated market and a dollar that they sacrifice for it. I think it is definitely intentional. Problem-reaction-solution. They are creating the problem so they can eventually provide the solution of their choice. For those of you who are saying this is an exaggeration, tell me the fatal flaw in being prepared. Stocking up on food is "foolish" only if you don't plan on eating in the future.
--------------------------
"I killed the banks"
oldhickory
exactly,,,,,,,thats what im talking about too,,,,when we first moved back home my kids had some issues with living simpler lives but i hung strong because really there are few options......i waste little if any, have my storage of emergency food underway,,,,have saved seeds that havent been irradiated and live ever so simply..........saying as much earlier labeled me as hysterical and so wrong..........i will be buying baby powder for those babies that get caught out in the storm if it comes as well
......bless you bro
1960
Back in the time when I was a child people stocked up on food and even built extensive bomb shelters that cost over 5 grand, like anyone seriously could survive a nuclear bomb! ..Just how much food would you have to save up for such a disaster you are predicting ?? You save up food, water ect. basically for very short term events, a world food shortage would not be anything saving up a little food would overcome...I still say the post is irrational
Storing food etc.
is important regardless of the duration of the "event". On average, your local grocery store stocks about a 3 day supply for the population radius it serves. Think about what happens before an ice storm, and you can get a bit of an idea what would happen in the event of a bonafide disaster of even a week's duration.
Dried foods, if stored in air-tight containers, will last years, so there isn't any rational for NOT storing some. Canned food will last for years, but does begin losing nutritional content after about 3 years, I think.
A good reference on the web for food storage, gardening and country living (I prefer "country living" to the word "survival"...) is www.backwoodshome.com.
mount weather
you seem to have undying faith in our govt....so if you follow their lead you will have massive underground city with enough supplies for large cities to survive that nuclear fallout,,,,,,,,,,check out mount weather,,,,,,,,they seem determined to be prepared
alienlve
I believe you are doing exactly what everyone should be doing. There's nothing wrong in trying to help out other fellow Ron Paul supporters with some free advice, either. I am also familiar with Mt. Weather. Keep doing what you're doing and I'm sure your family will be thanking you later.
And Pajeff, I wasn't alive when people were building bomb shelters in their back yards, but I'm aware of it from books/talking to my dad, etc... From what I gather it was based on being prepared for a what/if scenario... If you've paid attention to our government and other "truth" forecasters, this is inevitable... The only question is how severe will it be. And how will the people and our govt respond.
--------------------------
"I killed the banks"
Just Got This Email
Bruce Hopkins Wed, Jan 23, 2008 at 8:37 PM
We were advised today (Jan. 23, 2008) that NO food supplier will guarantee pricing any longer than three (3) weeks. Food prices are rising ASTRONOMICALLY! You can thank the Muslim oil producers, AND our government's meddling and forcing ethanol gasoline on us, for this.
Our dehydrated foods supplier is NOW working on a revised price list that will be out in a few days and all our prices WILL be going up. They told us that the only way they can think of to stabilize their pricing is to over-price items so they can absorb the increases that will follow (and not have to revise every 3 weeks).
If you have ANY intention of setting back some foods for hard times, or camping, or sailing. DO IT NOW! Putting it off could cost you 2 or 3 times as much.
This will be the only warning or notice we will send. Visit http://www.internet-grocer.net/dehydrtd.htm to take advantage of today's pricing.
You'd also be wise to stock up on canned goods at your grocery store.....
Phyllis Hopkins
Allison Irwin
and that little ol' newsletter writer, me (Bruce)
903-356-6443 - 9am-6pm Central Time
Thank the Muslim oil producers???
You mean Exxon is Muslim???
But don't you worry, we will all fell better in the morning. There's a check coming in the mail anywhere from 600.00 to a whopping 1200.00! Awesome! That will fix all of our problems.
/|\
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
"You take the blue pill and the story ends. You wake in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill and you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes. -- all I am offering is the truth, nothing more."
Who is
Hopkins and Irwin
Grocery Store Owners
I got the email forwarded to me from a friend. They are the owners of a grocery store. Do you know anyone else that owns a grocery that is hearing the same thing?
well actually
well actually i do know owner of small town grocery store, prices out of this world but as a mom of five kids,,,,,,,(four boys) i can tell you every WEEK prices are climbing........we no longer eat out,,,which is healthier anyway,,,,i cook all meals from scratch to save money....and im not alone, even the better off crowd in my vicinity are having issues,,,,i m not sure where others commenting on this site are from, but most everyone i know is taking huge blow to personal finances lately
You are right on!
Anybody telling you otherwise is just sailing down the river in Egypt.....D'nile.
Often, we in todays society like to think that bad things can't happen. So most people just flock to liars that say its all going to be ok. Well, when you have top financial pundits finally admitting in the MSM that the ship is sinking (it has been for three years, but they won't tell you that.) then it's time to start preparing. Top advisors tell us that even if we took our medicine and raised interest rates, letting the market crash, that we wouldn't se prosperity until 2010....and that is the "good news" or best case scenario. Instead, we have the fed just pummeling the dollar in order to save the billionaire share holders at the middle and lower classes' expense. One might even see this as a ploy to dump the dollar, take up the Amero and share our debt with Canada and Mexico.
The most important thing that people need to do is get out of debt as quickly as you can. This will be the "live or die" characteristic upon economic collapse. Thank God I decided a long time ago that college was a sham and all that one needs to do to become successful is to think critically, learn a trade and read allot. My wife however still has 15,000 in student loans to pay off, which we are now faster than ever.
I will be relying on the three G's through this tribulation.....Guns, God, and Gold. I am glad I'm a member of a church community that will help us through what is about to go down.
"This nation will remain the land of the free only so long as it is the home of the brave."
Guns, god and gold
Now that's funny !! I've live 60 years quite well without anyone of those