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McCain is a TRAITOR

Pass this one around to all your veteran friends who are blinded by the McCain lies -

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Would You Buy A Used Car From This Guy?

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Sometimes I Like To Hear Myself Talk

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These are basically comments I made earlier (in part) in this thread. Yet, here's something else -- The fact that this guy supports the war and he's a known POW -- I just can't seem to connect the two. If anything you'd think war would be the last thing this guy was looking to support. 100 years of it? And 5 more brave American soldiers reported killed yesterday.
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Granted, this might easily turn into another SWIFT BOAT attack (or maybe equal a deserter's record -- speaking of GWB and his military record that was shown but ignored by the media) // that wouldn't be good. At the same time selling out one's country can't be ignored.

http://kmareka.com/wp-con...

Perhaps this is what motivates MCCAIN to continue to support the war in Afghanistan and Iraq (a rational person understands we have no business being involved in the same // but yet the next 100 years, he says) // Could it be he's turned the same into a twisted 'second chance' to prove himself for his lack of real courage as a POW? // if so // sadly at the sacrifice of more American lives (and the other side as well) which continues to show his 'mis-placed' bravery because it's not HIM doing the fighting and dying -- it's our kids (The American People).

My thoughts since learning of this matter last week.

McCain the collaborator?

Devvy Kidd article
http://www.newswithviews....

excerpt

The following is McCain's own admission of collaboration in an article he wrote, printed May 14, 1973 in U.S. News and World Report:

"I think it was on the fourth day [after being shot down] that two guards came in, instead of one. One of them pulled back the blanket to show the other guard my injury. I looked at my knee. It was about the size, shape and color of a football. I remembered that when I was a flying instructor a fellow had ejected from his plane and broken his thigh. He had gone into shock, the blood had pooled in his leg, and he died, which came as quite a surprise to us - a man dying of a broken leg. Then I realized that a very similar thing was happening to me.

"When I saw it, I said to the guard, `O.K., get the officer.'"

"An officer came in after a few minutes. It was the man that we came to know very well as "The Bug." He was a psychotic torturer, one of the worst fiends that we had to deal with. I said, `O.K., I'll give you military information if you will take me to the hospital.'"

Please vote for our MoreWars McCain question for 1/30 CNN debate

AND set RP up for a fantastic question at the same time

Click on http://dyn.politico.com/d...
and find the question at #64 on Most Popular Tab (has climbed from #2143 in 12 hours!!)

"64. Question on: Foreign Policy (Not Iraq)
If you believe we need to win the war in Iraq to make progress in the war on terror, do we not need to start and win wars in all countries that harbor Islamic fundamentalists since they are the proclaimed enemy? Do you agree with Senator McCain's statement two weeks ago when he said "I'm sorry to tell you, theres going to be other wars".

Jaw

I thought his jaw was like that due to surgery. He had come cancer and they took skin from somewhere and put on his face. They did a remarkable job.. but anyway.

McCain a traitor?

You folks better tread very lightly when you start bashing John McCain on his POW record. There's plenty of dirt to use on him with his political carrer. JM is not a John Kerry.

This guy spent 5+years as a POW and had the chance to come home earlier and he opted to stay untill ALL of the other POW's were released. He had some very serious injuries from being tortured. Look at the guys arm movements and his still swollen jaw. These rumors flying around that JM was a traitor will blow up in all of our faces!

At one time I was a BIG McCain guy, glad to see him in politics, but he pissed all over his war record by turning into a typical Neo-con. That does not take away that he was a POW though. He spent 5+ years over there and could have come home early and he opted to stay untill all of his camp unit was released.

I'm 110% Ron Paul, always will be. I am telling you guys though, this aint good bashing on JM's war record. This will turn many Vets and patriotic Americans VEHEMENTLY against us and Ron Paul.

I'm a Veteran myself (disabled) and as much as I love RP and dislike McCain, this kinda pisses me off too. Unless you've been in combat or even in the military, you cannot fully understand this reasoning, but I will tell you, it is best left alone in this arena.

Agree Partially

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Being a POW // one who 'chooses' to remain a POW tells me that the treatment couldn't have been that terribly harsh (for him) -- it couldn't have been; not when one examines the type treatment given the American POW -- I just can't imagine anyone choosing to be tortured daily, eating food that only pigs would call Mother's Stew. Now who in their right mind would 'choose' to stick their tongue inside an electrical socket time and time again when they didn't have to (not saying the Vietnamese did this exact same thing to him -- but surely their treatment had to have been modified once they learned who he was and what he represented to the USA; surely that).

As to his stiff body language -- perhaps the same can be attributed to his airplane biting the dust and the injuries he received in that process (McCain ejected from the plane breaking both arms and a leg in the process), that and of course the relatively poor medical conditions that existed in the POW camp for him and for every other POW at the time w/o exception) I believe what we see today is more so that airplane being shot down and him parachuting to safety and not so much him having to endure the harsh realities sustained as a result of him bravely 'choosing' to remain in Vietnam. I wasn't a POW (far removed from that) but I couldn't hardly wait to get the hell out of that place, that's me speaking personally.

See this photo of MCCAIN:
http://www.vietnamwar.com...

Granted, this might easily turn into another SWIFT BOAT attack (or maybe equal a deserter's record -- speaking of GWB and his military record that was shown but ignored by the media) // that wouldn't be good. At the same time selling out one's country can't be ignored.

Perhaps this is what motivates MCCAIN to continue to support the war in Afghanistan and Iraq (a rational person understands we have no business being involved in the same // but yet the next 100 years, he says) // Could it be he's turned the same into a twisted 'second chance' to prove himself for his lack of real courage as a POW // if so // sadly at the sacrifice of more American lives (and the other side as well) which continues to show his 'mis-placed' bravery because it's not HIM doing the fighting and dying -- it's our kids (The American People).

My thoughts since learning of this matter last week.

edited to add this photo:
http://kmareka.com/wp-con...

TRAITOR plain and simple

These are documented facts.

Show me the documents

that prove these "facts" ? ?

Seriously, Going After McCain's POW record is just stupid.

Okay Mcdude

keep taking up for Insane McCain the war "hero".

McCain's War Record

Oh! I don't listen to that, "ignorance is bliss so-called music". I'm responding to the title of this post only!

This is where he gets his strength from! Folks think that he's a "real" hero. I doubt it myself. Vietnam was "ugly ugly ugly", of course, all wars are! Vietnam had "ugliness not associated with any other wars"! Lies lies lies, deceit deceit deceit, within our government and within the military itself!

I wrote him a letter when all of the "amnesty" stuff was goin' on and asked him when did he become a traitor?

I seriously suspect now that he was one all along, at least after his capture!

He should not have been a pilot but his daddy was an Admiral so he got the go-go sign from up-on-high!

He's a living lie? Google: john mccain war record

vietnam veterans against john mccain:

http://www.vietnamveteran...

Will `Ace' McCain Flame Out Again? - Brief Article:

http://findarticles.com/p...

McCain lost five U.S. Navy aircraft:

http://www.vietnamveteran...

52 year ole male, Vietnam Draft was dropped the year I escaped High School, age of 18 in 1973.

another special gift for mccain

Check out the "there will be more wars question" here http://www.dailypaul.com/... and please vote for it.

I want to see the look on McCains face when they ask this - and the other candidates except paul have to decide to take McCain to the cleaners (and flip flop on their own war position) or to support him (and look like the war monger he is).

What an amazing question.

we've got a special straight talk gift for McCain at the next

CNN debate on 1/30.

Go here and read details http://www.dailypaul.com/...

just voted...

it's still in #4 spot in the Popular section.

Most of the people vote based on nothing

As I have observed the first primaries and caucuses it has come to me very clear that most of the people vote based on nothing

Examples:
- 95% of Mormons voted for Romney in Nevada
- Born-again Christians carried Huckster in Iowa and SC
- Romney won Michigan on the notion that his dad was the governor
- Black vote carried Obama in SC
- Women carried Hillary in NH

McCain is a disgusting in-duh-vidual but for some reason people want him to lead the country - go figure.

THIS VIDEO IS DUMB

Let's leave McCain service out of this. There is plenty of material to attack him on without mentioning his war record.

This is about the future, not the past.

So it shouldn't be an issue

that a triator wants control of our military? WRONG! If this got out it would sink any chance he had of being elected.

If you have nothing to say, say nothing.

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Echoing sentiment

I could care less about what he's done in the military.

Really?

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As President of the United States, the man also holds the unique position of Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces; he outranks any military officer and has the inherent right to assume command on the battlefield.

Boiling this down further -- He holds life and death decisions over not only the entire civilian population of the United States (he can get us all entangled and mixed up in war -- as the current inclumbent so blatantly has done -- and war translates as death and destruction and more without discrimination) but he also has the military at his command, to use basically in any which way he sees fit. He's in charge of it; he 'out ranks' everyone in it; he's the Commander In Chief of it. If that doesn't mean anything to you --

Think George W. Bush 'magnified' with a chip on his shoulder out to prove himself justified in his actions (be it past and/or future). It ought to mean something (??) to you. It does me.

McCain is evil

Wow! Jane!

You really know how to let someone have it! :-)

Thanks!

I've been in the business for a long time and I know this crumbum's record.

The stuff at the bottom was not written by me, but I agree with it.

The public is manipulated and tricked and I'm sad to say even our 'conservative' newspaper is complicit here in NH -- I've been fighting with the editors now for some time about it.

McQuaid was laughing in his last editorial and saying 'of course we influence people'

Made me want to slap him.

Don't mess with Jane! :-)

Bump

Did you all know McCain was an honest to goodness traitor? Spread the word on this story - McCain must be stopped or a traitor will have control of our military!

I'm not going to back this

I'm not going to back this article because I don't know much about this, but it seems like pretty decent information on this issue.

http://findarticles.com/p...

thanks

spread this news to every McNutjob supporter you meet.

Damn -- How Could I Have Been So F-ing Stupid?

Let me clarify that subject line (question) of mine first of all, I have had no intention of VOTING for MCCAIN in this election, never even entered my thoughts -- RON PAUL has been and continues to be my only choice.

But that said, I honestly had no idea this MCCAIN POW (traitor) stuff was an issue not even when I did once upon a time get caught up in all the hype about him being a POW when he was running against GWB for POTUS back in 2000 -- I sent the guy $$ in support of him. I was all for the guy, related to him and his military experiences, rooted for him, that kind of thing. I'm telling you this now, I suppose just to show what an absolute idiot I truly am not to have seen this -- this has caught me entirely by surprise here. Damn.

Well, like I said this needs to be known by everyone -- if true. I know I keep saying that but I found myself saying the same things as regards all the lies about 9/11 (which I believe truly was an inside job as I've said elsewhere time and time again -- it took me years to come to that realization).

I knew MCCAIN was wrong, that he was lying to all of us back when running for POTUS against GWB (but didn't understand why at the time but now I think I do) when he said that GWB was associated with oil gangsters that supported him and then the very next day dropped out of the race and was hugging and giving GWB all his support. I about fell off my chair when that happened. I was eating a piece of pizza and nearly choked on it hearing and seeing that. It's finally all starting to make better sense now.

Damn! This needs to get out outside of this RON PAUL Forum so it doesn't appear we are spreading gossip and false claims, etc. I can see there is an effort ongoing thanks to those videos you provided -- but damn what the hell is going on in our country to ignore something like this for all these years. And I thought 9/11 TRUTH was the ultimate avoidance.

Like I said -- I'm an idiot, I must be.
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If it makes you feel any better

I believe 9/11 was an obvious inside job as well. Jet fuel can't burn hot enough to melt steel.

The truth always comes out - it just takes awhile sometimes!
Peace

The Manchurian Candidate's Secrets

The fact that he has done everything in his power to thwart any real investigation by our own government, of the fate of our MIAs, and how friendly he is to the government of Viet Nam, says it all. I heard that he has had his military records classified. How could we consider voting for a politician who uses classification ro conceal his records? What is he hiding?

The same goes for the traitors who are assisting him in his coverup. We need transparency in government. We always keed to know what our politicians are up to. We need to know what deals they are making with other governments,

At the same time, our personal affairs are none of their business. It OUR privacy that needs to be protected. It is THEIR actions that need to be open. That's why we need to get Ron Paul elected.

Military Code Of Conduct

I -- I am an American fighting in the forces that guard my country and our way of life, I am prepared to give my life in their defense.

II -- I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.

III -- If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.

IV -- If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.

V -- Should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies.

VI -- I will never forget that I am an American fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.
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There you go, JerryB9105,

One more reason to be passionate for Ron Paul! We have to keep the traitors out!

If you liked that video you'll love these!

McCain with, the help of John Kerry, blocked the commission on MIA's and POW's. You'll never believe why. And this comes from former members of Congress!

http://www.vietnamveteran...

Spread it far and wide!

Awesome

I think those guys are in the documentary I linked below. Good stuff.

I did not know about the "affectionate nurse"

Why didn't Tim Russert ask about this last night?

If This Is True (??)

If this is true -- Something needs to be done to fully make this widely available to the public.

If this is true -- How can anyone question that 9/11 wasn't an inside job orchestrated and approved (allowed, etc) by insiders within our own government? If this is true this needs to be on every TV screen, every newspaper, everywhere AND this man should not be a US Senator nor should he be allowed to be President of the United States of America. If this is true.

FYI: Here's what the US Military Code of Conduct has to tell each of us that served in the military service. This code is instructed and reiterated over and over again and expected to be adhered to for all the obviously important reasons:

http://www.vetshome.com/m...

The Six Articles of The Code of Conduct

I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.

I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never
surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to
resist.

If I am captured, I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and aid others to escape. I will accept neither
parole nor special favors from the enemy.

If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners.
I will give no information or take part in any action which might be
harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will
obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me, and will back them up in every way.

When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give
only name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering
further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.

I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.
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Oh it's true

Why else was hero McCain so hell bent on sealing all the pow records? He'll never admit it, of course. Families of the pow's are on record as saying McCain did everything possible to block any attempts at bringing them home by insisting none were still there.

He'd let them all rot forever before he let his own records come out and reveal his lies.

McCain in the documentary - Missing presumed dead

http://www.youtube.com/wa...

He is a traitor who needs to be exposed!

Damn! If This Is True --

How in hell has this not been made into one of the biggest stories of our time? A US Senator, a traitor? How in the sam hell can this be and not be a longtime major news event. How can anyone that is a traitor to this country be allowed to be a Senator, how can anyone that is a traitor to this land be allowed to be President? How?

Listen, please, I don't know if this is true or not -- but if it is: I want it to be known, very well known.

And some of you out there actually question the possibility of 9/11 and a rogue element operating from within our government. This needs further investigating.
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For YOU that don't know, here's the military code of conduct. We had this drummed into our heads the entire time I was in the military (26 years of it) from start to finish. No one can be excused away not knowing these things and practicing these things. It's at the very heart of who we are in the military service:

http://www.vetshome.com/m...

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How?

I believe the same reason Skull & Bones makes initiates do bizarre rituals. Because now the puppet master who pulls his strings has something to hold over his head and bribe him with to make sure he follows orders and does as told. Get out of line and get exposed by the media. Do you think I could find this stuff out in 5 minutes on a computer but FOX doesn't know about it?

They'd have nothing to hold over the good Doctor's head.

War monger and opportunist yes.. traitor?

War monger and opportunist yes.. traitor? I'll go along with war monger, opportunist, even political hack, but traitor? I do not know what any of us would do to survive for 7 years in a POW camp. I am sure it was hell on earth. There are plenty of other shortcomings McCain has, but I oppose calling him a traitor. I certainly would not volunteer for any "private time" with a Viet Cong , KGB trained, interrogator.

Agreed.

That's one bold allegation. Don't make such an allegation unless you have ABSOLUTE proof on a matter like that.

yeah right

give it to vets... The blue text is unreadable and the music (if that's what you call it) is full of offensive language. I'd rather see a link to a reliable research article.
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Washington doesn't need more lawyers.
It needs a doctor!
Dr. Ron Paul *** RX for Freedom

Sorry blnpilot

Trying to reach everyone. I met a group of a dozen teenagers waving McInsane signs last week. It's not just old people deceived by his lying war hero persona.

Insane in the Membrane by Cypress Hill - it should be McCain's theme song.

Sorry

but McCain made anti American broadcasts and gave info on his own Admiral daddy - TRAITOR.