Ron Paul needs to wear suits that fit.
At least at the debates. I look back at how he dressed at early early debates and he always dressed sharp, looks great and well rested and speaks slow and thought out. Wonder how much of a toll this campaign is takin on him.
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It's The LOOK That's Mainly Important -- Right?
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unfortunately, to the 90%
unfortunately, to the 90% that are not already voting for Paul; Yes, the LOOK is most important.
Okay -- Two Things
// First thing first:
Something funny that seems to fit here:
A dog's idea of personal grooming is to roll on a dead fish.
-- James Gorman
// Second thing second:
The basics -- A Book That Applies:
Dress For Success, by John T Malloy
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// Okay title change to THREE things -- This:
Vote RON PAUL 2008
It's not a beauty contest
It's a choice between the real deal, full-spec Ron Paul and total disaster.
I think he has lost some
I think Dr. Paul has lost some weight since last year. Can you imagine the exhaustion that has to go along with this campaign? I can see it on the faces of all of them.
I also LOVE when Dr. Paul wears a dark blue suit - He looked great at some of the other debates.
Previously known as DCALIFANO
I agree
Fashoin critique is NOT a reason to boot someone's post or call them a troll. Ron Paul does wear a suit size that does not fit and public perception IS important. Look to Kennedy VS Nixon in the first televised debate in the 60's as a historical reference.
Ron Paul for Peace!
I have offered him a new suit
I own an upscale men's boutique. www.executivemenswear.com I offered the campaign a new suit, but I have not heard back from anyone.
Thank you.
Very kind.
Dress to Impress
This is very important when leaving a first and lasting impression! I am in for suiting up Dr. Paul, our leader, for battle!
What I saw
A well dressed handsome man that is assertive, not aggresive,confident, extremely intelligent, versed on the facts of the issues. He comes across humble, truthful, and gets his point across with a subtle dry humor. He stands apart from the slick, polished politician image the rest exude. He gets to the point and the real issues not blah blah insurance and grobal warming while the economy is on the verge of a meltdown. He is the salt of the earth, reminds me a little bit of Jimmy Stewart in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. He obviously intimidates his opponents since they seem to be copying him on issues and trying to come across with sincerity and warmth of RP as of late with no success. If fellow Americans can't see past the phony smiles and expensive suits to the lies and intent these minions have for our country than maybe they deserve what they will get. Yes, I thought for sure the question would be to McCain Iraq????/$$$$ where, how??? but I trust he knows what he is doing . This is not really a rebuttal just my opinion and I could be a little partial because I respect his courage and what he stands for so much.
I liked the suit
He wore a suit that made his frame look larger, more imposing and presidential. His posture was not suited for his dress, but the suit was shiny.
Ron Paul Armani Suit Bomb
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I'm surprised there hasn't been a website yet lol. We have them for everything else. I think that is the problem with our grassroots fundraising initiative lately. This month we have been bickering so much we forgot how we got to this point. $$$ and organization. Let's refocus our efforts on these two.
“Remember that a government big enough to give you everything you want is also big enough to take away everything you have.” Barry Goldwater
Personally
I think Paul looked the best when he was in a shirt/tie/sweater combo link in the christmas commercial or in Iowa. He looks very sharp when you add that sweater
way to go vegasbd
i now have a sh*t list and you're the first one on it.
will everyone please flag this post?
why is he on the shit list?
Vegas:
"Hey boss... I really love the new car our company designed and I think it's a great product. However, I feel that even though the recent sales numbers were good, they STILL understate the market for it. I think with a better sales pitch... maybe change the look of the spokesman, we could sell EVEN MORE cars!!!"
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Robin:
"You're fired!"
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WTF!?!?!??
let me see if i've got this right evan
by comparing ron paul to a new car are you trying to say that if he changed his suit he'd be winning?
that is some impressive logic.
maybe not "winning"... but it couldn't hurt.
I never said he'd be "winning". But I think by changing his suit/appearance, he will increase his popularity, yes.
I am 100% in agreement with you that selling the message to as many people as possible is a good thing, so long as the message doesn't compromise.
And last I checked, changing ones wardrobe does nothing to affect their intelligence/morals/beliefs, etc...
It wouldn't cause those of us who don't judge books by their covers to not support him. And yes I do agree that people *shouldn't* judge people based on how they dress. However, I am aware that OTHERS whose votes we could really use do judge people based on how they dress...
while you're at it then
boxers or briefs?
loafers or wing-tips?
i've seen ron paul in person and he was dressed impeccably. I always think he looks sharp behind the podium at debates.
Do you honestly think this kind of personal criticism is helping the campaign?
Right now, at this very moment, Ron Paul is out there fighting for your freedom... and you are sitting behind a computer dissing his frickin suit.
yes, I do.
I absolutely think this constructive criticism is productive.. that's why I'm participating in it.
I truly believe that if you look at the message alone Ron has all the other candidates beaten easily... so there has to be another reason (or reasons) for him not completely blowing the field away so much so that no MSM conspiracy could even cover it up.
I think a lot of it is how he comes off... sometimes a little too geeky and incomprehensible to the average person. Also, I think a lot of it is his image - people like to vote for people that "look the part". It's sad, but true.
History is littered with examples of people who were popular primarily or even solely due to appearance.
Heck, I would say a huge chunk of MItt and Obama's support is due to ONLY appearance.
I still don't see why you think this is counterproductive to try to improve a candidate in a way that would GAIN him support.
Gotta Agree with VegasBD on this one. Look at the Kennedy-Nixon
debate. Nixon mopped the floor with Kennedy on the issues, but Kennedy won because of his appearance.
Go President Paul!
Looks Are Not Everything -- Only For You That Think They Are
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Ever hear the old saying 'beauty is only skin deep' // How about this one -- Never judge a book by its cover
Know what that means?
No, let me tell you -- It means who we are and what we are is far MORE than the surface that the world sees. Of course first impressions are important, not arguing that -- always a great idea to put your best foot forward (another old saying) but look deeper folks and you might be pleasantly surprised.
Getting hung up over the minor things can lead to disaster. Take a look at ROMNEY, EDWARDS // those are two examples of people that try and present themself in a fashion you are speaking of I believe (they have the $$ and age to help make this easily possible) which is not entirely who they are at all -- Listen to them, compare.
A nice smile does go a long way, for sure, but so does some brain power and proper attitude. I'd much rather listen to the smarts of say RON PAUL than the lies of ROMENY, EDWARDS any day of the week. You that think otherwise -- all the more power to you.
As long as RON PAUL doesn't come across as a bumbling idiot (which he most certainly is not) in tattered clothing and a finger stuck up his nose -- I say concentrate on his message // It is far more important that a nice head of hair and a $1000 pair of alligator shoes.
Don't be so shallow.
false choice
I don't think anyone on this thread has said that his message ISN'T important.
But why does it have to be an either or between:
1) good message to attract those of us in the 15% of the voting population that are political geeks... (realistically, we are... how many of us are on here like 5 hours a day at least?!)
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2) empty suit that "looks the part" but has a meaningless messsage. Would have better luck attracting the remaining 85% but would lose the support of the first 15%?
Imagine if he had the same message (so we're still on board) AND looked the part for the x% of the voting population who actually just votes for a guy they'd like to have a beer with?!!?!
We're just saying that it would be good if he improved his marketing towards group 2. Why do you assume that it would cause his message to change just cause he looks different?
false choice!!!
sorry for accidental double post
Heard You First Time
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Taking this a bit personal? Message is important -- mentioning it seems to have upset you some. Interesting.
Appearance is important, didn't say it wasn't -- go back and look again if you question that.
But allowing this thread (and this thread is not the only thread addressing RON PAUL's appearance) it seems that some folks are 'shallow' on top of shallow to make this such a major concern. Sure, looking presentable is understood. Having a good tailor, having a good barber -- nothing wrong in that. One post (another thread) was addressing his facial structure -- suggesting he not allow his bottom jaw to protude so prominently. Give me a break please, or at least give this subject a break.
If no one is checking his appearance -- they should -- don't want the man standing on stage with his zipper down (which did happen to me once, because I didn't check and my soldiers didn't notice until it was too late) // but that's another story.
Appearance is important, but message is more so. Understand?
nobody disagrees that the message is MORE important?
But the message is damned near perfected.
So why not next work on perfecting the lesser-important appearance/delivery?
He needs to pump some iron.
Really. I had an Arnold book years ago for travelling business people on how to work out while travelling. The suits would fit better, good for his health and strength and help him look sharp. He enjoys bike riding, but he could really use some bulk. He needs a really good fitness trainer to help him wade into it slowly and the right people joining him in the gym so he can take advantage of the time in strategizing or whatever they do.
It's not the suits
it's his frame. RP is tall, has a longer width across the shoulders and a small head. Believe me, I know my husband looks the same in a suit. No matter how much we spend on nice blazers and tailoring, it's the same effect (sloppy). Stop all this suit talk, it's disrespectful to the most amazing man in our history.
didn't mccain look like he had a hole in his nose
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" Thomas Jefferson
McCain seems
have short arms. He looks awkward in anything he wears. I wear cheap suits (from bargain outlets, like 3 for $100 with free ties, well, I leave the ties, they're too tacky). I buy a couple of nice fairly priced Stafford shirts off Sears and a few matching ties. Ladies think I look different ( cause I love wearing, plain or printed T-shirts, denims, dungarees, and casual slacks, they're used to it). About Dr. Paul, he has a different frame, kind of slouched a little bit, probably age-related and he is slim. I heard he only weighs 97 lbs. (is this true?). If he can add another 25 lbs to that frame, even if he buys suits from the bargain outlets, he will look better than Romney.
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
I don't know where you heard
I don't know where you heard that he weighs only 97lbs, but having seen the man in person LAST NIGHT immediately after the debate, I can assure you that it is not true. (Although I do admit that he can give the impression of being slight when he appears on TV, due to his build)
No
That is just a slur-the 97 lb bit.
In person he looks bigger
In person he looks bigger than on tv, I'd say he's 5' 11" and 170lbs
Ok, I was misinformed.
Thanks. But, going back to suits, if Dr, Paul can select a fabric which has a good drop, meaning, free-flowing. Maybe dark blue or dark gray, charcoal gray, with light striping, pair it with slightly light-colored blue shirt, or light gray shirt (for charcoal suit), He will look devastatingly handsome. I remember Molly Ringwald checked me out one time (she had to stop the cab she was in to take a look) when I was in Manhattan.
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
I agree
I noticed and it looked sloppy. Tell his wife, thats how you get through to a man.. Can I hear an amen? :)
Not Stupid..
If you don't think looks matter on a national debate, you're sadly mistaken. Too many people care more about who looks good, is well dressed, etc... I know it's all BS and know that most of you do too. We care about the message. For younger folks on the Internet Ron is an easy sell, BUT the people voting are sitting home watching TV. It's a whole different world out there.
Now I don't think he should start wearing Romney wear but at least be conscious that looks matter. It's just a small piece to a much larger puzzle.
Looks matter.
As much as we want to believe that people are judged soley by the content of their character; they're not. Trust me, if Paul looked like the man for the job, he'd have this whole race in the bag right now. That said, there is something useful to take away from this discussion. When we portray our candidate, the way we look and talk and represent ourselves matters. The content of our handout literature and how it looks matters. We've got one shot. This is for keeps. If by grooming properly and dressing appropriately you can save yourself 30 seconds on a doorstep—where the man of the house doesn't wonder if you're sincere—you can get a lot more accomplished. We must always look at how we do things from the perspective of if somebody did it to us.
Ignore those that call you a "troll" or say..
....that you are being "counterproductive"
There are a lot of people who cannot separate the man from the message and simplistically think that because they love everything about the freedom message they must also love everything about the man. And they think that criticizing anything about the man means you don't like the message or don't get the message.
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Merely having a suggestion that the MARKETING of the product could be improved does not mean you think the product itself needs changing at all.
But people like looking for excuses to call others trolls. It happens everywhere on the intent, not just dailypaul... It's a power-trip exclusion type thing. So it goes.
Can you truly imagine...
...a principled man like Dr. Paul in a phony, plastic shell like Mitt wastes untold thousands on?
Not taking a personal jab at you, Vegas, and yes he needs rest, but to those who do think you can judge a book by it's cover- Smarten up, I say!
Clothes don't make a man like Ron Paul.
Win4paul...
Isn't it sad to see what our culture has become? A frugal man not wasting thousands to look good. Yes, our culture is sick!! Overspenders, wasters, and very materialistic. Just goes to show some know what" live within your means", really means. He probably feels it would be a waste of your (our) money to go get a tailored suit when he has plenty of nicely pressed ,clean suits already!!!!!!
I'd support him and hang on his every word if he showed up in his P.J.'s
Yes, our culture is in a very sad state....
Vegas BD,
You're an ass. What a ridiculous thing to say. I'm glad that's the kind of thing that's important to you.
It's the last thing we need to worry about
If you want a president who looks sharp and gets dressed by his handlers, Dr. Paul is not for you.
They'd just ridicule him more
If he came out in his super hero get up, cape all dangling......
I don't know VegasBD, the
I don't know VegasBD, the rest of them use their campaign money on custom tailored expensive suits. I'm sure the doctor does not believe that campaign money donated to him should be spent on his wardrobe. I know that the 6 or so suits I own are bought right off the rack.
Does it really matter?
Worrying about things like these, is what's sending the country to the trash can.
Piss off!
What a stupid article to post!
Here's a subject, "Why should US bring our troops home?" Get busy!!!