Other Republican candidates exiting the race is bad for Ron Paul

"Anything worth doing is worth doing slowly." Mae West

I think that it is clear the anti war vote in the GOP is capping out about at about 10-15% unless there are more anti war folks somehow mistaking McCain for anti war than we think!

I think the candidate we would benefit most from dropping out is Huckabee. It SEEMS he is the least hawkish and since his voters really care about the abortion issue, gun issue and are ready for MAJOR tax overhaul, Ron Paul would pick up a lot of their voters.

The way they are beating each other up and dropping like rats off of a sinking ship, I love the idea that Dr Paul will be the only one left standing and will win the primary.

It's too easy for the press to ignore Ron Paul, when there are several others to chase. And it's going to get down to McCain, Romney and Paul. We might as well be prepared. First of all, McCain is on record as being more Pro War than George Bush - that will be his demise. Mitt is a little slicker, but compared to Paul, he lacks governmental experience with economics, and foreign policy, and leadership, and military experience. Mitt may be a Harvard Lawyer, but last time I checked, they don't pass out Medical Degrees for free, either.

I think the US is something like 70% anti-war.

When the number 1 choice drops out, the race becomes more fluid and people tend to vote with the trend. This creates more opportunity for Dr. Paul as a possibility of a late surge increases.

Think Macro, but keep in mind the micro.

I think Dr. Paul realizes this and that is why he is pacing himself.

Right now, it's like the ugly stage of growing your hair out. It doesn't look as good as it did when it was shorter, but when it finally grows out, it is going to look great!

That's the stage we are at now. It looked good when the vote was diluted among the pro-war votes, but with fewer pro-war candidates up there, it looks ugly. But as more continue to drop, we will reach a point where it will look great for Dr. Paul.

MSM may wish to continue their blackout of Dr. Paul at this point, but they would be foolish to do so if he was 1 of 3 on stage. I can't wait to see how they destroy their credibility!

Read Dr. Paul's messages. We are headed toward a brokered national convention and every time a condidate drops out, it increases the probability of RP becoming the GOP nominee.

It's simple math...don't try to complicate matters using "New" math. The only way for there to be 2 Republican Primary Candidates is for everyone else to drop out.
Dr. Paul stands to gain more from Thompson and Huckabee fans than the others.
The media will have no choice than to mention Paul's name more instead of always ignoring him.
The Less The Better.
This is what real Competition ultimately does...let the Market decide.
I only wish that Dr. Paul could catch a break now and then and receive even 50% of free publicity as other Candidates get. Paul has to pay for every amount of publicity he can get when it comes to the media.
Imagine if Romney was getting as much public support as Paul at his Speech venues etc...oh well, I hope that Florida will flip the Media on their heads today. Vote for Ron Paul...if you want REAL CHANGE.

I disagree. The departure of media-anointed "serious" candidates is the best possible thing for our "quixotic," "long-shot" Dr. Paul. Fred Thompson dropping out was a good thing. 9iu11ani dropping out will be even better.

He's catching on, I'm telling ya!

Let them drop out, it only adds to the credibility of Dr. Paul.

Each one that drops out is another one that Ron beats, period.
You don't get to capture wandering republicans if their candidate is still in the race... Let them go looking and guess who they can find?

Drop like flies and let the lost come find the true patriot running for president in 2008.

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for the campaign of the candidates who drop out!

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When the others quit and the MSM doesn't cover RP, a lot of voters get confused and think that RP one of the ones that are out of the race. We have to work harder to let voters know that RP is still in the race!

and here is what I have concluded.

We need to have an even number of candidates less than 5 until after super Tuesday.

1) 5 dilutes the vote but the field is too crowded and MSM can easily ignore Dr. Paul
2) 3 will allow the MSM to pit 2 against each other and exclude Dr. Paul (see Edwards' treatment)
3) 2 Dr. Paul vs a Neocon --- No contest. But I don't see Mitt nor Huckleberry dropping anytime soon
4) 4 is the best place for Dr. Paul right now. Few enough that he will be included in reports (because he will generally beat 1 of them in any primary), but not that evil 3 where he can be isolated.

Just my $0.50 (adjusted from 1913)
Keith

Yes we need the other candidates to stay in the race to split up the neo-con vote. BUT after feb 5th. If candidates drop out the delegates they won are free to vote for whoever they wish!!!!

That means we have 6 months!! count em 6 to win over delegates from losing campaigns to the light.

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How in the hell can you even think that other Republican candidates exiting the race will be bad for RON PAUL?

How else can he get to a number one spot 'to win' unless the others get off the toilet first?

As hard as it is to believe, war ranks well down the list to many voters.
These voters split along other lines; socialy and economicaly in ways where we benifit from the dwindling field ...

The More Obligated the MSM is to cover Dr. Paul. especially when there are high turn outs and delegates for Dr. Paul...say after Super Tuesday. Money on hand is another undeniable fact that has to come into play. Dr. Paul and Romney are the only ones with any. This game is played until May. Only those with the assets will have the legs to make the finish line. I expect a 3 man race after Super Tuesday and then a Brokered Convention in Minneapolis. If the Paul delegates stand their ground... a Romney/McCain deal will have to be made and the Paulites gain substancial power inside the party. Maybe a cabinet position for Dr. Paul (Sect of Treasury maybe??) and a real success for this movement. All is good in the rEVOLution !!

They only thing holding this campaign back has been speaking time at debates and media coverage. The less candidates, the more media time (one would think, but I guess that isn't necessarily true). This message will convert people once it's heard.

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They are ALL pro-war candidates -- except RON PAUL.

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Let me change my subject line to say -- Are YOU Missing Something?

GIULIANI (your suggested choice) -- pains me to even type that name. Damn!

Americans have been brainwashed by the media and by the education system. When I first heard some of Ron Paul's statements like bring the troops home from Korea I didn't think it was possible. I had to do research to realize how right he was. People think in terms of small, medium and large. Most don't participate in the primaries at all and don't watch the debates. I heard someone yesterday say they don't get involved until it is down to the ones that are chosen from each party. People don't get it. When there were 11 candidates, people heard even less about Ron Paul. He can make a great point about it being down to 5 and he is one of the 5. MSM commentators are even asking how they could ignore him when it is down to 3. People need repeated exposures to Ron Paul's freedom message in order to "get it".

If the economy we not directly tied to the war spending you would be correct. This is the big lie that most of the voters are not completely aware of. All wars , especially protracted wars, hurt the economy, therefore hurt the people. The myth that war is good for the economy is probably one of the BIGGEST lies ever told. The fewer candidates left in the race, the easier it will be to draw the correlation between the two, the economy and the war.

If we continue the good fight, and keep our man in the game, the day will come when one, perhaps two , of these Pro War candidates will have to debate Ron Paul on how they can fix the economic problems without addressing the cost of the war. Last night president Bush bragged about cutting $18 billion in pork barrel spending. I almost choked on my popcorn. We are spending twice that amount in Iraq and Afghanistan per month.

The fact is, the less candidates in the race, the more MSM time Dr.Paul will have to explain his common sense economic plan to the people. Less is more in this case.

just to break things up and keep any of the others from breaking out and scooping up enough delegate to win outright.

1. 70% of the people are against the war already. Paul already has alot of support there, especially among moderate Republicans.
2. The economy has turned into the defining issue of this race. No candidate can match Paul's credentials in this area and fewer candidates means more time in debates for Paul to state his case.
3. Delegates is the name of the game from here on out. Paul will pick up votes from every candidate that drops.

What will be will be, but I agree in part with what you say. I'd like Giuliani to stick around awhile, just because he siphons votes from the others much more than from us. Huckabee probably siphons some of our votes so I think I'd like to see him gone. Actually, he has the best one liners so maybe he can stick around as the Jester.

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is good news for Ron Paul, as it set more focus on Ron Paul and he gets more chance and the media has to notice him. The war is not the only issue people are voting on (36% of Republicans vs war now?). It could be the best if Huck fares very badly in FL and drop out. In any case, if he continue to Super Tuesday, he is very low on money and can be competitive in only a very few states. Many of his "evangelical" supports will certainly vote for Ron Paul. Paul is gaining name recognition, if the media want or not. Brokered convention with McCain and Romney would be good. McCain has already made blunders that will disqualify himself to be competitive against any Democrat (100 year Iraq and war issue). Many core Republicans do not support him, some of them only strategically support him as they think he can beat a Democrats rather than Romney or Huckabee with appeal to Independents. We know RP got 2/3 of Independents in NV! Romney is a strategic flip-flopper and many Republicans will still be unsure of him: they are thinking of him as a Republican version of John Kerry. With Paul as third standing, people will have to look at him seriously, also those that were not positive about him initially. Someone has mentioned the GOP could get another person not running, like Mark Sanford as the Republican candidate (he is independent and neutral on some) and then with Ron Paul as his running mate. On a "anti Iraq war", small govt., low tax etc. platform, they will launch up very well against Obama/Clinton/Edwards (combination)! If GOP goes with Romney and/or McCain, they are sure to loose. I think Iraq will become more violent again - simply a phase now - and this should help any anti-war candidate the most.

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Our best chance will be if we go into a brokered convention with at least 2 or preferably 3 other candidates. Rudy will drop if he finishes 3rd or worse in FL, the rest of the candidates all have at least one victory or 2nd place finish in a primary or caucus to make them "viable", even if they coast into the convention on fumes. Huck might drop, but I think it's more likely that he'll continue to coast until the convention based on his strong finish in Iowa and runner up finish in SC.

Regardless of what the other candidates do, the most important thing YOU can be doing right now if you have not already had a primary or caucus in your state is CANVASSING! It was canvassing combined with good caucus organization that got us second in Nevada (and 1st in Nye County). There is no better way to drum up support for RP than to go out and walk your precinct! There is only ONE good weekend left before Super Tuesday, so get out there and do it!

If other candidates take states and gain delegates, then (depending on the delegates) when they exit, those delegates are typically expected to still vote for "their guy."

This is NOT always true -- for instance in the states that have had local caucuses & primaries but who actually set their delegates via later conventions, etc -- there is a *chance* to win some of those delegates over.

But... if they are "pro-war" BushCo people, it is unlikely they will come our way.

So more OR less candidates... it's kind of a mixed blessing at this point (Feb 5th) and beyond.

As long as we are flying "under the radar" they will spend big bucks tearing into each other (as McCain & Romney & Rudy are doing in FL right now). Even if it comes down to 3 candidates left (say McCain, Romney & Paul) then it is very likely that M & R will still spend most of their time attacking each other, as they "steal" votes from each other more than us... but POST Feb 5th, if we do well in Maine and any Feb 5 states, then it will change.

The hope is that A) They won't have any money left to spend on attack ads, and B) We have some good "attack" ads of our own (most probably simply using their own words & videotaped segments against them), and finally C) If they ATTACK, then media smells "blood" and give you free air time to respond on shows. (And what else other than the now-old newsletters and the Russert-tried & failed earmarks do they have? RP has NO SKELETONS!)

4 is the magic number

Over half this thing is still name and face recognition. If more people are in it that voters recognize. That's bad. If voters don't recognize anybody as famous they will be forced to look at the issues. There were people in New Hampsire that voted for McWar cuz they figured since he was a POW he was against the war. They don't know he wants to do this for the next hundred years. They don't know how he has block the commision to recover other POWs.

Mr 911 led in polls for over a year because of name recognition alone. The only reason his ship is sinking is because he the biggest fraud. Now we will move on to the next biggest flaud and so on.

Inturn we must get RPs name and face out there and his message heard period end of sentence.

That would be much better time served than thinking up ways to play with pandoras box.

Who cares how many pro-war candidates there are if they are also getting the anti-war vote? Rather than worry about splitting the pro-war vote, we have to concentrate on consolidating the anti-war vote.

I think at this point keeping Romney, McCain & Giuliani would be good...

Enough that they can quit using the "there's too many" ploy, and then the evangelicals would be forced to really look at candidates if the Mike "God Loves me" Hucklebee exits.

If after Feb 5th its down to Paul and 1 or 2...then its very likely that there will be a person with the majority of the delegates.

We actually want Guiliani to win Florida, as much as we would all love to see him fail miserably...

There's the good and bad.

less candidates = more facetime at the debates (assuming he's not excluded)

more candidates = more bush foreign policy vote is split up

Rudy was never viable in the primary, that was just a mirage.

I think the true answer happens to be working exactly in Ron Paul's favor. The second most conservative dropped out just before Super tuesday.

He has the "frontrunner" McCain about to look like a fool on the economy. (at least I'm guessing his question to him in the last debate is a setup to really make Mickey look like a fool later.

Romney's a threat to the very end.

The question is what has to happen to RP to leapflog into contention.

Just what is the point of this topic, anyway? I thought the whole idea was for EVERYBODY but Paul to drop out, no? And exactly how does this help? Are you saying that maybe we should send money to the other candidates so that they can stay in the race? Jeez, guys, come on, just let this topic die already.
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Dropping turds is the point. We need to thin them, hence the "was 11 now its 5" theme on the Ronpaul2008.com site.
Problem is we will start to face a wall of anti-Pauls. Such as louisiana with the creation of the "fusion slate" aka "against paul slate".
It was in the rule books but is mainly a ploy. just to assist the media in their distortion.
Futher more, the less on stage means we will eventually get on the front page of yahoo and msnbc and cnn. Right now they are pumping up "obama vs hillary + romney vs mccain" its a ploy.... a trick.
We need something big. Like donating your max this Feb 1st.
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but what they say it that the economy is the biggest issue to them. we know that the war deals directly with the economy but a lot of 'other' voters dont think that way. they will make trade offs. lets say julie gets out. the people who support him would not support mccain or romney just because of their similar position on the war. they will see who has the best economic plan and take that into consideration. the strongest economic candidates being paul and romney (just because he owns a business)

No.

75% of America is against this war.

The troops support Ron Paul more than any other candidate - combined.