Ron Paul continues to allow these dickheads to control his time when it is his turn to speak. When he said he wanted to respond to the previous question, he let the dickhead stop him. Ron Paul should have just kept talking and not ask permission by changing the subject mid-sentence. by saying "and regarding who is most conservative, I am the most conservative on this stage with a 20 year voting track record, never voting to raise taxes or for an unbalanaced budget, etc.
They have done this too him time and time again. You would think that he would learn how to get the extra time without asking permission. This was a big dissapointment. Even Huck had the balls to state their end of the table was being ignored.
McCain lied about Rommey timetables statement. At least Rommey did not allow him to get away with hit back hard, revealing his lie. So much for the straight talk express. I hope Rommney kicks McCain's butt and spends $100 million on ads against McCain.
Ron's religious beliefs do him no good in a presidential run.
Perhaps Hucky or Romney actually believe they are chosen by God to become president. I doubt Ron really believes he should be President, because that might be considered a sin... Pride, Lust, Envy... all of these would describe the desire for power.
The best man for the job is the one who doesn't want it.
It appears in the distorted world of McInsane military experience is losing five Navy jets, four of which were lost before he ever went to Nam, at a cost of millions of dollars and seeing combat in Vietnam for a whole 30 days, before he was shot down.
He has more experience spilling his guts as a POW
I wonder how supportive those who think McInsane walks on water would be if they knew the real truth about his service?
Maybe his military records need to be made public?
Every single viewer who was watching a debate for the first time must have been absolutely shocked, Ignoring candidates is one thing, but outright cutting them off is absolutely unheard of.
No sane viewer is going to accept that.
And what will they be thinking? "Gee, I wonder what they are trying to hide from us? Maybe I'll have to look into this Ron Paul."
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
And called me today to let me know both him and his wife would NOW be voting for Dr. Paul. Believe me, that in itself was an accomplishment! I'm so proud of them! Wooooooooooooooo!
That is a very dangerous last resort on a massive level. We aren't at that point yet. I am VERY angry, but I also know that we all need to be patient and see how super tuesday pans out. The game may change again.
I do, however, advocate a little 'mischief' against the media. They need to be educated on the effectiveness of an angry populace. An example:
The editor of our local paper here made a big big boo-boo in an article he wrote, essentially disregarding the opinion of the county residents over a pretty serious farmland issue. Shortly after the article hit the stands- a group of really pissed off people waited for him, and paintballed the living shit out of him, I mean BAD. He was scared to come to work again for quite a while.
For some reason, he's been much more careful about what he says in his opinion papers ever since.
I disagree, most people think the second amendment is for to be able to hunt, or protect your house. Those are true, but the constitution is real clear about the real reason people need to be allowed to bear arms. To defend against tyranny.
In this point in the history of mankind, as sad as it is to say- It is a dog-eat-dog world. We all know from personal situations to the way all forms of social contact such as politicians that the more agressive you are, the higher up the food chain you are.
Even if MSM were giving Dr. Paul coverage, he does not grab the situation and hold onto it.Debating is becoming a lost art and although Ron Paul is a great orator in a speaking engagement, he is not fighting these other lugheads on an even stage. I'm not saying to act like the fools beside him do from time to time, but butt in, continue getting points in even after being interupted, get tough!!
Ron Paul should have just walked off at the break, he would have been given more time as they considered that. To hear McIsane say that hes been the watchdog of National security for 20 years and yet 9/11 happened anyway. ON HIS WATCH. Give me abreak He's bought and paid for!
I say we pick that fucker up and club them with it, then laugh at them while they bleed out.
Am I pissed yet? You decide...
Far too long we've held our temper in favor of "ohhh what will they think of us? Remember what happened with the Hannity incident." Breaking News:
THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT. If they're gonna give us the name, we should have the game. They clearly want us to get mean. OK, give them what they want. Organize an angry mob, march to their network, and scream bloody havoc until their windows shatter.
The media, in my opinion, is listed as attack on sight. Tar and feathers, broken glass and Tabasco sauce, pick your poison and be creative- but get the message across. Make sure they take care about what they ask for next time.
This debate tonight was just another poke at a mad animal with a stick. I think it is time we show them that we mean business, and that it isn't wise to aggravate the people. By all means- continue to help Dr. Paul and encourage him and help him win, but CUT THE LEASH!
I'm a former United States Marine. Never have I rolled over and allowed anyone to walk over me like they are doing to us, and I'm not about to start now. Turn up the heat, and make your acts of civil disobedience a little more 'colorful.'
What happened in France not long ago about the ghettos where unemployment is rampant, the young kids have no future and they really got enraged at the government and set fire to cars, barricaded streets, so on.
How about when the native indians in Quebec barricaded for several days the Champlain bridge in Montreal which is in one of the main arteries of the city using flipped cars, buses, so on to get the whites out of their sacred lands?
History is full of these episodes and they do result in positive action. Why do you think we have the 2nd amendment? Do nothing means we're complacent, we accept to be beaten down.
Anderson Cooper is a Dickwad. He is going on and on about the post debate coverage "With the best Political Team". An Hour and fifteen minutes of mindless talk about 2 of the 4 canidates. He straight up told Ron Paul 2 times "we will get to you", and he didn't. Screw him. Bombard him with with our "love"
that was terrible!!! I was glas hucksta said "you said you were going to shower me with questions but then turned the spikit off" Im obviosly a die hard RP supperter but I want all the candidates to have equal time to debate. I hope this is an issue we can agree on with hucksta's supporters
Where is Pauls Media advisor????????
If he can't bring him in better prepared than this...
Too bad we can't see what is really going on there, sure there are alot of hand signals and things we can"t hear
Mostly I'm mad to see that these media trick and psyops are working on us here!!! Making US question his abilities!!! Divide and conquer!!!!!
I'm flat broke but I'm running up my credit card right now to show our force. I'm pissed and instead of b!tching about it I'm going to let my money do my talking for me
How hard is it for Ron Paul to stand up and say..
"Senator McCain, while our troops were fighting your war on terror in Iraq, you were selling out their country to mass amnesty & special interests.."
There is a fine line here.. It is important to be professional and Ron Paul has been consistant about not falling into the "childish bickering". I think he did great with the little time that was given to him and overall I think all those people who tuned in for the first time will see that he has serious points and it is clear that he has been hushed. I honestly think this debate was good for the campaign even with all the obvious shortcomings.
The time for professionalism has come and gone, and if he doesn't kick it in to high gear soon, he WiLL lose this thing. I thought this was supposed to be a revolution.
Sometimes you can say things better with a bottle of gasoline and a match than you can with words. And if they wont let him speak, he needs to find new ways to be heard. Now, I don't think he should firebomb anybody, but America is a great place, and it is certainly worth raising your voice for. Some one needs to tell him to get his shit together or we are all going to have to get used to saying "president McCain".
I heard on a show(radio) in Nov they said it will be McCain vs Hillary(but that was before guys like Kennedy started backing Obama, and him winning FL, etc...)... odd how someone would almost "guarantee" this on radio.
Huckabee was the big star in Nov-early Dec... where is he now? Being ignored like Ron Paul.
in Sept-early Oct, it was Fred Thompson who was Mr Popular.
Maybe that radio host was right... it's all thought out(diebold) already? Like Pro-wrestling... they have who will be champ months ahead of time, already figured out..they just leave some people thinking someone else has a chance to win(except we know it's rigged in pro-wrestling, opposed to some people who think elections can't be rigged).
Anyhow...
I am curious:
WHAT WERE THE "HOME RUNS" RON PAUL DID SAY TONIGHT?
I don't have cable, and people who post here post half-stories, thoughts..."he hit a home run"... what did he say, then?
It's the end of the story, w/o knowing what the story was about last chapter.
Someone explain, in detail, what few things Ron Paul said that got applause, etc?
My 50 year old friend( I had complained about on here in Mid-November)...called and said he saw the debate, and thought Ron Paul was not"tough enough"...(he wants "war" mongers to win).
He also told me he thought Ron Paul did not act like he wants to really win(the presidency), but just get his opinions heard, like Ross Perot in 1992.
??????????????????????
I don't have cable, and youtube takes me 45 minutes to download 5 minutes of viewing.
I think some people are correct...when the 2 were snickering, I would have said' hey, what's so funny? You think 4000 dead American soldiers in an illegal war is funny?"
Or something like that...made them look like the jerks they are.
I heard on a show(radio) in Nov they said it will be McCain vs Hillary(but that was before guys like Kennedy started backing Obama, and him winning FL, etc...)... odd how someone would almost "guarantee" this on radio.
Huckabee was the big star in Nov-early Dec... where is he now? Being ignored like Ron Paul.
in Sept-early Oct, it was Fred Thompson who was Mr Popular.
Maybe that radio host was right... it's all thought out(diebold) already? Like Pro-wrestling... they have who will be champ months ahead of time, already figured out..they just leave some people thinking someone else has a chance to win(except we know it's rigged in pro-wrestling, opposed to some people who think elections can't be rigged).
Anyhow...
I am curious:
WHAT WERE THE "HOME RUNS" RON PAUL DID SAY TONIGHT?
I don't have cable, and people who post here post half-stories, thoughts..."he hit a home run"... what did he say, then?
It's the end of the story, w/o knowing what the story was about last chapter.
Someone explain, in detail, what few things Ron Paul said that got applause, etc?
My 50 year old friend( I had complained about on here in Mid-November)...called and said he saw the debate, and thought Ron Paul was not"tough enough"...(he wants "war" mongers to win).
He also told me he thought Ron Paul did not act like he wants to really win(the presidency), but just get his opinions heard, like Ross Perot in 1992.
??????????????????????
I don't have cable, and youtube takes me 45 minutes to download 5 minutes of viewing.
I think some people are correct...when the 2 were snickering, I would have said' hey, what's so funny? You think 4000 dead American soldiers in an illegal war is funny?"
Or something like that...made them look like the jerks they are.
I heard on a show(radio) in Nov they said it will be McCain vs Hillary(but that was before guys like Kennedy started backing Obama, and him winning FL, etc...)... odd how someone would almost "guarantee" this on radio.
Huckabee was the big star in Nov-early Dec... where is he now? Being ignored like Ron Paul.
in Sept-early Oct, it was Fred Thompson who was Mr Popular.
Maybe that radio host was right... it's all thought out(diebold) already? Like Pro-wrestling... they have who will be champ months ahead of time, already figured out..they just leave some people thinking someone else has a chance to win(except we know it's rigged in pro-wrestling, opposed to some people who think elections can't be rigged).
Anyhow...
I am curious:
WHAT WERE THE "HOME RUNS" RON PAUL DID SAY TONIGHT?
I don't have cable, and people who post here post half-stories, thoughts..."he hit a home run"... what did he say, then?
It's the end of the story, w/o knowing what the story was about last chapter.
Someone explain, in detail, what few things Ron Paul said that got applause, etc?
My 50 year old friend( I had complained about on here in Mid-November)...called and said he saw the debate, and thought Ron Paul was not"tough enough"...(he wants "war" mongers to win).
He also told me he thought Ron Paul did not act like he wants to really win(the presidency), but just get his opinions heard, like Ross Perot in 1992.
??????????????????????
I don't have cable, and youtube takes me 45 minutes to download 5 minutes of viewing.
I think some people are correct...when the 2 were snickering, I would have said' hey, what's so funny? You think 4000 dead American soldiers in an illegal war is funny?"
Or something like that...made them look like the jerks they are.
Check the dates, people!!!!
This thread was from 1/31, after the debate. Let it fall back down the line.
no
I always think of all you canvassors and precinct leaders at the front line.
Good luck out there &Thank you. It's appreciated.
Um....
What is this post about?
At Least Huck spoke up about being ignored. Where was RP?
Ron Paul continues to allow these dickheads to control his time when it is his turn to speak. When he said he wanted to respond to the previous question, he let the dickhead stop him. Ron Paul should have just kept talking and not ask permission by changing the subject mid-sentence. by saying "and regarding who is most conservative, I am the most conservative on this stage with a 20 year voting track record, never voting to raise taxes or for an unbalanaced budget, etc.
They have done this too him time and time again. You would think that he would learn how to get the extra time without asking permission. This was a big dissapointment. Even Huck had the balls to state their end of the table was being ignored.
McCain lied about Rommey timetables statement. At least Rommey did not allow him to get away with hit back hard, revealing his lie. So much for the straight talk express. I hope Rommney kicks McCain's butt and spends $100 million on ads against McCain.
Ron Paul... betrayed by his conscience
Ron's religious beliefs do him no good in a presidential run.
Perhaps Hucky or Romney actually believe they are chosen by God to become president. I doubt Ron really believes he should be President, because that might be considered a sin... Pride, Lust, Envy... all of these would describe the desire for power.
The best man for the job is the one who doesn't want it.
Knock on doors people.
Talk to your neighbors.
________________
Good luck to us all,
Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
...
What's "rediculous" is that most of the country doesn't know how to spell ridiculous.
Legal to vote? Supporting Ron Paul? Yes!
How about passing over the spell-check and giving the guy a break?
Uhh, sorry...
I guess I got caught up in the heat of the moment. I'll try to pay more attention, Captain, Sir.
Just what military experience does McCain have?
It appears in the distorted world of McInsane military experience is losing five Navy jets, four of which were lost before he ever went to Nam, at a cost of millions of dollars and seeing combat in Vietnam for a whole 30 days, before he was shot down.
He has more experience spilling his guts as a POW
I wonder how supportive those who think McInsane walks on water would be if they knew the real truth about his service?
Maybe his military records need to be made public?
Nope. This was a total win for Huckabee and Paul.
Every single viewer who was watching a debate for the first time must have been absolutely shocked, Ignoring candidates is one thing, but outright cutting them off is absolutely unheard of.
No sane viewer is going to accept that.
And what will they be thinking? "Gee, I wonder what they are trying to hide from us? Maybe I'll have to look into this Ron Paul."
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
My brother who was a Hitlery supporter noticed
And called me today to let me know both him and his wife would NOW be voting for Dr. Paul. Believe me, that in itself was an accomplishment! I'm so proud of them! Wooooooooooooooo!
YES
Armed Revolution is sounding more and more like justifiable self defense every passing hour!
No revolt just yet.
That is a very dangerous last resort on a massive level. We aren't at that point yet. I am VERY angry, but I also know that we all need to be patient and see how super tuesday pans out. The game may change again.
I do, however, advocate a little 'mischief' against the media. They need to be educated on the effectiveness of an angry populace. An example:
The editor of our local paper here made a big big boo-boo in an article he wrote, essentially disregarding the opinion of the county residents over a pretty serious farmland issue. Shortly after the article hit the stands- a group of really pissed off people waited for him, and paintballed the living shit out of him, I mean BAD. He was scared to come to work again for quite a while.
For some reason, he's been much more careful about what he says in his opinion papers ever since.
That's illegal and immoral.
That's illegal and immoral. Ron would never support assaulting someone like that.
The Consitution
I disagree, most people think the second amendment is for to be able to hunt, or protect your house. Those are true, but the constitution is real clear about the real reason people need to be allowed to bear arms. To defend against tyranny.
- Ron Paul 2008 -
Choose Freedom
Why remain Passive??
In this point in the history of mankind, as sad as it is to say- It is a dog-eat-dog world. We all know from personal situations to the way all forms of social contact such as politicians that the more agressive you are, the higher up the food chain you are.
Even if MSM were giving Dr. Paul coverage, he does not grab the situation and hold onto it.Debating is becoming a lost art and although Ron Paul is a great orator in a speaking engagement, he is not fighting these other lugheads on an even stage. I'm not saying to act like the fools beside him do from time to time, but butt in, continue getting points in even after being interupted, get tough!!
My God I'm Pissed
Ron Paul should have just walked off at the break, he would have been given more time as they considered that. To hear McIsane say that hes been the watchdog of National security for 20 years and yet 9/11 happened anyway. ON HIS WATCH. Give me abreak He's bought and paid for!
They've Thrown the Gauntlet
I say we pick that fucker up and club them with it, then laugh at them while they bleed out.
Am I pissed yet? You decide...
Far too long we've held our temper in favor of "ohhh what will they think of us? Remember what happened with the Hannity incident." Breaking News:
THEY DON'T GIVE A SHIT. If they're gonna give us the name, we should have the game. They clearly want us to get mean. OK, give them what they want. Organize an angry mob, march to their network, and scream bloody havoc until their windows shatter.
The media, in my opinion, is listed as attack on sight. Tar and feathers, broken glass and Tabasco sauce, pick your poison and be creative- but get the message across. Make sure they take care about what they ask for next time.
This debate tonight was just another poke at a mad animal with a stick. I think it is time we show them that we mean business, and that it isn't wise to aggravate the people. By all means- continue to help Dr. Paul and encourage him and help him win, but CUT THE LEASH!
I'm a former United States Marine. Never have I rolled over and allowed anyone to walk over me like they are doing to us, and I'm not about to start now. Turn up the heat, and make your acts of civil disobedience a little more 'colorful.'
Honestly, sometimes we have to get rough!
What happened in France not long ago about the ghettos where unemployment is rampant, the young kids have no future and they really got enraged at the government and set fire to cars, barricaded streets, so on.
How about when the native indians in Quebec barricaded for several days the Champlain bridge in Montreal which is in one of the main arteries of the city using flipped cars, buses, so on to get the whites out of their sacred lands?
History is full of these episodes and they do result in positive action. Why do you think we have the 2nd amendment? Do nothing means we're complacent, we accept to be beaten down.
Time to do something!!!
double post
double post
semper fi
HOORAH! Dad is a retired bird, i'm a former sf cpt.
time to poke holes in the flanks.
Love this comment
Right with ya brother, name the place and time and I'll be right next to you!
Wow, just what are you guys planning?! Can ya send video? =)
*** God bless Ron Paul ***
* Ron Paul For President *
Maybe we shouldn't vote for a winner...
I don't think we should vote for this debate. Paul can't win a debate he is not allowed to attend.
Anderson Cooper is a
Anderson Cooper is a Dickwad. He is going on and on about the post debate coverage "With the best Political Team". An Hour and fifteen minutes of mindless talk about 2 of the 4 canidates. He straight up told Ron Paul 2 times "we will get to you", and he didn't. Screw him. Bombard him with with our "love"
that was terrible!!! I was
that was terrible!!! I was glas hucksta said "you said you were going to shower me with questions but then turned the spikit off" Im obviosly a die hard RP supperter but I want all the candidates to have equal time to debate. I hope this is an issue we can agree on with hucksta's supporters
i think the Huckster might be mad as hell too
it's about time he feels what it's like!
MAD?? HELL YES!!!
Where is Pauls Media advisor????????
If he can't bring him in better prepared than this...
Too bad we can't see what is really going on there, sure there are alot of hand signals and things we can"t hear
Mostly I'm mad to see that these media trick and psyops are working on us here!!! Making US question his abilities!!! Divide and conquer!!!!!
I'm pissed and I'm donating now..PLEASE JOIN ME
I'm flat broke but I'm running up my credit card right now to show our force. I'm pissed and instead of b!tching about it I'm going to let my money do my talking for me
What the hell!
How hard is it for Ron Paul to stand up and say..
"Senator McCain, while our troops were fighting your war on terror in Iraq, you were selling out their country to mass amnesty & special interests.."
easy to say..
There is a fine line here.. It is important to be professional and Ron Paul has been consistant about not falling into the "childish bickering". I think he did great with the little time that was given to him and overall I think all those people who tuned in for the first time will see that he has serious points and it is clear that he has been hushed. I honestly think this debate was good for the campaign even with all the obvious shortcomings.
Bullsh*t
The time for professionalism has come and gone, and if he doesn't kick it in to high gear soon, he WiLL lose this thing. I thought this was supposed to be a revolution.
Sometimes you can say things better with a bottle of gasoline and a match than you can with words. And if they wont let him speak, he needs to find new ways to be heard. Now, I don't think he should firebomb anybody, but America is a great place, and it is certainly worth raising your voice for. Some one needs to tell him to get his shit together or we are all going to have to get used to saying "president McCain".
More like President Clinton or Obama
I heard on a show(radio) in Nov they said it will be McCain vs Hillary(but that was before guys like Kennedy started backing Obama, and him winning FL, etc...)... odd how someone would almost "guarantee" this on radio.
Huckabee was the big star in Nov-early Dec... where is he now? Being ignored like Ron Paul.
in Sept-early Oct, it was Fred Thompson who was Mr Popular.
Maybe that radio host was right... it's all thought out(diebold) already? Like Pro-wrestling... they have who will be champ months ahead of time, already figured out..they just leave some people thinking someone else has a chance to win(except we know it's rigged in pro-wrestling, opposed to some people who think elections can't be rigged).
Anyhow...
I am curious:
WHAT WERE THE "HOME RUNS" RON PAUL DID SAY TONIGHT?
I don't have cable, and people who post here post half-stories, thoughts..."he hit a home run"... what did he say, then?
It's the end of the story, w/o knowing what the story was about last chapter.
Someone explain, in detail, what few things Ron Paul said that got applause, etc?
My 50 year old friend( I had complained about on here in Mid-November)...called and said he saw the debate, and thought Ron Paul was not"tough enough"...(he wants "war" mongers to win).
He also told me he thought Ron Paul did not act like he wants to really win(the presidency), but just get his opinions heard, like Ross Perot in 1992.
??????????????????????
I don't have cable, and youtube takes me 45 minutes to download 5 minutes of viewing.
I think some people are correct...when the 2 were snickering, I would have said' hey, what's so funny? You think 4000 dead American soldiers in an illegal war is funny?"
Or something like that...made them look like the jerks they are.
I don't know
More like President Clinton or Obama
I heard on a show(radio) in Nov they said it will be McCain vs Hillary(but that was before guys like Kennedy started backing Obama, and him winning FL, etc...)... odd how someone would almost "guarantee" this on radio.
Huckabee was the big star in Nov-early Dec... where is he now? Being ignored like Ron Paul.
in Sept-early Oct, it was Fred Thompson who was Mr Popular.
Maybe that radio host was right... it's all thought out(diebold) already? Like Pro-wrestling... they have who will be champ months ahead of time, already figured out..they just leave some people thinking someone else has a chance to win(except we know it's rigged in pro-wrestling, opposed to some people who think elections can't be rigged).
Anyhow...
I am curious:
WHAT WERE THE "HOME RUNS" RON PAUL DID SAY TONIGHT?
I don't have cable, and people who post here post half-stories, thoughts..."he hit a home run"... what did he say, then?
It's the end of the story, w/o knowing what the story was about last chapter.
Someone explain, in detail, what few things Ron Paul said that got applause, etc?
My 50 year old friend( I had complained about on here in Mid-November)...called and said he saw the debate, and thought Ron Paul was not"tough enough"...(he wants "war" mongers to win).
He also told me he thought Ron Paul did not act like he wants to really win(the presidency), but just get his opinions heard, like Ross Perot in 1992.
??????????????????????
I don't have cable, and youtube takes me 45 minutes to download 5 minutes of viewing.
I think some people are correct...when the 2 were snickering, I would have said' hey, what's so funny? You think 4000 dead American soldiers in an illegal war is funny?"
Or something like that...made them look like the jerks they are.
I don't know
More like President Clinton or Obama
I heard on a show(radio) in Nov they said it will be McCain vs Hillary(but that was before guys like Kennedy started backing Obama, and him winning FL, etc...)... odd how someone would almost "guarantee" this on radio.
Huckabee was the big star in Nov-early Dec... where is he now? Being ignored like Ron Paul.
in Sept-early Oct, it was Fred Thompson who was Mr Popular.
Maybe that radio host was right... it's all thought out(diebold) already? Like Pro-wrestling... they have who will be champ months ahead of time, already figured out..they just leave some people thinking someone else has a chance to win(except we know it's rigged in pro-wrestling, opposed to some people who think elections can't be rigged).
Anyhow...
I am curious:
WHAT WERE THE "HOME RUNS" RON PAUL DID SAY TONIGHT?
I don't have cable, and people who post here post half-stories, thoughts..."he hit a home run"... what did he say, then?
It's the end of the story, w/o knowing what the story was about last chapter.
Someone explain, in detail, what few things Ron Paul said that got applause, etc?
My 50 year old friend( I had complained about on here in Mid-November)...called and said he saw the debate, and thought Ron Paul was not"tough enough"...(he wants "war" mongers to win).
He also told me he thought Ron Paul did not act like he wants to really win(the presidency), but just get his opinions heard, like Ross Perot in 1992.
??????????????????????
I don't have cable, and youtube takes me 45 minutes to download 5 minutes of viewing.
I think some people are correct...when the 2 were snickering, I would have said' hey, what's so funny? You think 4000 dead American soldiers in an illegal war is funny?"
Or something like that...made them look like the jerks they are.
I don't know