It is Official! Ron Paul Biggest GOP Fundraiser Last Quarter!
Posted February 1st, 2008 by Michael Nystrom
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Well, it's official, ladies and gentlemen. Believe it or not, Rep. Ron Paul, the 72-year-old Texan who hardly ever gets mentioned in Republican political news and the one-time libertarian who always gets the least time on TV debates if he isn't barred completely, was, in fact, the most successful Republican fundraiser in the last three months of 2007.
By a Texas mile.
By the thousands Paul's fervent followers donated $19.95 million to the "Ron Paul Revolution." He spent $17.75 million and at year's end had $7.8 million cash on hand, making him the only Republican candidate to increase his fundraising totals in every quarter of 2007. According to his website, Paul's Paulunteers have contributed another $4.1 million this month to...fuel the strict constitutionalist's travels and advertising campaign.
Keep it up with today's Money Bomb!. Track the progress at Ron Paul Graphs. And of course, HAPPY 51st ANNIVERSARY to Dr. & Mrs. Paul!!!. I hope that I am so lucky.
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Romney "raised" money by
Romney "raised" money by borrowing from his himself. Thus his campaign is in debt - debt owed to him. Will federal matching funds cover his personal loans to his campaign? If so, that's just disgusting!!!
I don't understand
How can Romney have raised more than he spent, but still be $35 mil in debt? Like Raised $86mil, Spent $84mil, Cash on Hand $2mil, Debt $35mil. That makes no sense????
So at the end of the quarter RP had almost $8mil and now $5mil more, but we know he is spending big time.
People ask, why this, why that. I'll tell you why. He has to budget that money and he does not have a huge war chest. It is small in presidential terms and we are the only one fighting the media. Huck doesn't really know what a fight is and he still complains. Ha. Take that Huck and see how you like it. Huck only had $1.8mil plus whatever he has raised this month which I have heard is about $500,000. I know he has to have been spending also, so I am sure he is broke. Plus he has been out asking in all the wrong places, so he probably will drop after Tuesday.
Why is Romney claiming to have raised the most
He should be called out on this
How
How do you figure he hasn't?
Headquarters, headquarters, headquarters
I hate to say it, but there is no way on earth that anyone can sit out here in the big 'ol USA and know what headquarters is doing with campaign money. Forget it. If you don't work for headquarters, then you DON"T KNOW. If you want to know, then find out. I dare say they will tell you anything you ask. If not, that is something we need to know. Until you find out, quit speculating and stirring negative junk up.
I put my faith in Dr. Paul as my presidential candidate. That is much more important than my presidential candidate's headquarters. If I am going to trust him to be my President, then I sure as heck am going to trust his headquarters. If he has a problem with them, he will take care of it. Nothing is perfect. Not even you, I dare say--ok, nor me. Give it up, or do something about it and stop the speculating.
The reason we don't get votes is because we are marginalized by media and absolutely everyone wants to vote for the most likely candidate to win against their perceived most disliked candidate. They are naturally going to throw their vote to the person who can win against McC if they hate him, as I do. So let's just hang on until the field dwindles even more and see what happens then. Wait, watch and hush. If you want to complain, gather facts first and keep your hurtful speculations to yourself.
Donating
I've maxed out for the primaries. When can I donate again to max out for the general election?
I don't really care about all the negative comments. I believe people are doing the absolute best they can do and usually going beyond 100%. I know I personally am working harder on this than anything I've ever done with my personal time. I am retired and give my every molecule to it. There are the bad things that go with it and I hate those, but I'd like the posters who rant about the negatives, to provide the solutions. We have voter fraud, ok, suck it up. Until someone executes a solution, we live with it. I can take almost any result that is true, but the fraud drives me up the wall. But my solution is apparently not feasible. I have not been able to get anyone to implement it and it is simply the 100% Exit Poll.
Mainly the negative and lower votes than we want, I think come from our negative media. Everyone else has an over, way over abundance of positive media and we get buy with very little positive and a whole lot of negative. Fighting the media is huge. It is a huge fight we are into, and it isn't for the faint of heart. Voicing frustration doesn't help much either, it probably mostly hurts the movement and causes attrition.
I'm sorry, but
This is too much. It seems to me as if Paul's campaign has either been infiltrated by sabotaguers, or is being grossly and criminally mismanaged.
I am not even am American citizen (British and Canadian, live in US) but have been FEVERISHLY trumpeting the merits of Paul's campaign to all who will engage, friends, coworkers, family, etc.
However, I am giving up, until I see the Campaign HQ pull its head out of its ass.
Bottomline, those of you who have influence or a connection to HQ need to figure out what the bleep is going on.
I'm all for this message, his presidency, and what it may lead to, but I'm not going to waste my time if MCCAIN is getting the majority of the ANTI WAR VOTE. That just sounds like pure fraud to me and signals that we are fighting a losing battle. and the worst oversight - THE LACK OF TIMELY AND WELL-PLACED STRATEGIC CAMPAIGN ADS. If you expect to get any results, you better start playing hardball. Start by purging the sycophants, parasites, and fraudsters from the Campaign HQ and bringing in people who get RESULTS. WE NEED RESULTS.
You're playing by the rules in a rigged election. Wake up. This is foolish.
Personally, I am prepared for the shyte hitting the fan over the next 5 to 10 years, as far as supplies, etc.But this campaign looks like it's being sunk from within, and completely defenseless against the machinations of the sociopaths and crooks running the system.
Goodluck to all of you, I hope your efforts are not in vain.
It's not as bad as you think. In fact, it's actually GREAT!
You've been watching/reading too much old media, have you?
I've noticed that the campaign has been implementing our suggestions. Actually, I was impressed.
You should talk to your friends about Ron Paul and post your success stories. We need to hear more success stories. Remember, all each one of us has to do is to find/make one brand new Ron Paul supporter, in order to double the size. Of course, if you can do more than just one, don't stop there.
Suggestions are great, too.
Let's do it!
Maxed out Feb 1rst
I maxed out last night but I have to agree with the previous poster. In New Jersey there have been no radio ads or television ads that I've seen for Ron Paul. I've seen commercials for Huckabee, Clinton and Obama. Huckabee has little money but he is able to play tv ads? New York and New Jersey are delegate rich states and there is nothing from the campaign going on over here or in New York that I am aware of.
On Route 22
In Mountainside there have been Ron Paul signs for Months. A Big one even. No ads have I seen...
I just saw different 3
I just saw 3 different really good Ron Paul commercials in Colorado tonight. Each played multiple times, and I never saw one on tv before tonight. I think they are spending wisely. There are also alot of radio ads here. I have not seen an ad from another campaign yet...
I hear radio ads
between Limbaugh and Hannity on our local radio station (I've got my reasons for having it on). That has to be national because the primaries are far away in my state.
is it possible?
Is it possible that Ron has to pay higher charges for air-time in MSM than others? How can they explain how they managed to buy so much air-time?
Can MSM provide diffrent rates for candidates?
Are the invoces public?
As far as I know, political
As far as I know, political ads purchased by campaigns have a standard flat rate price which is set by the government. The price is non negotiable. It is done this way so that no candidate can receive any sort of favorable treatment.
I might be wrong on this, but I'm pretty sure that I'm right.
But is it "Official" on Who ran more TV commercials?
The failure in New Hampshire was by any account a disaster. Ron Paul himself said that when they looked at the independant ANTI-WAR vote, most was going to McCain. This was true for South Carolina and again in Florida.
This is FAILURE folks.
Here is another FAILURE. The Media "blackout". During the South Carolina Debates and the days before it, it was Thompson who aired TV Commercials and Huckabee, a 3rd and 2nd place finnish with lots of delegates. Nothing for Ron Paul. While CNN ignored Ron Paul at the Reagan library debate he still could have been speaking directly to over 10,000,000 interested Republican viewers that night with his OWN commercials, yet, it was Huckabee who wisely aired TV commercials during this debate. Thats Huckabee, as in the guy with no money.
Frankly I am terribly suspicious of HQ and how they are spending the money. YOU SHOULD BE TOO. Not only have you invested months and months and plenty of money into this grassroots movement, but Fraud is not so unheard of. Harry Browne's campaign, who was or so it seemed, the most honorable libertarian man around, turned out to simply POCKET much of the contributions.
Now Ron Paul is big on saying that Government must be OPEN and TRANSPERENT. Its high time that HQ get OPEN and TRANSPARENT with both PROPOSED expenditures and past expenditures. Indeed, we in the grassroots should at the very least be able to see, where and when TV commercials and even Radio Commercials will be aired.
Case in point, will there be Ron Paul TV commercials tonight, Saturday night, during the MTV debate with Obama and the rest? If NOT, why the heck NOT??? HQ must start EXPLAINING this STRANGE strategy to us in the Grassroots....... donations and donors ARE walking away. I myself am still campaigning for the Revolution --- Just last night Friday night I was at a big sign wave for 5 hours with over 5,000 people at the famous event Art Walk and Pre-Superbowl events---- and I can tell you FIRST hand, many of our marginal supporters that we had are now walking over to the Obama campaign. Gee he is for getting back Habaus Corpus but not much else, big deal right? They KNOW this, so why have they left the movement.
#1 Reason: No TV or Radio commercials, "Something is Not Right up there".
#2 Cult-like Followers who can't stand the fact that they like Ron Paul yet just do not agree with all the positions......followers keep getting on "their backs".
#3 Making Sure Obama can win over Hillary was "good thing, at least he is for ending Gitmo and getting back Habeus Corpus".---and these are Republicans!
I know one thing about running a company. When YOUR "marginal" customers LEAVE, soon the rest will follow.
So that tells me that both the Revolution and the Ron Paul campaign is in big trouble.
I agree.... How fast that this post is flagged or deleted will tell us all we need to know about its future as a CULT. A real live "movement" can and does embrace criticism and complaints and WORKS feverishly to address the criticism and the complaints, NOT THE COMPLAINER and NEVER Denies the criticism as "suspect". Movements that do, turn into Cults.
I love the Ron Paul Revolution and have spent over $7,000 on it and 9 months of my time and energy. I am worried for the movement and deeply concerned about what HQ is doing with our money. Where and when will be the TV ads?
The "strategy" from HQ does NOT explain that lack of TV ads at critical and strategic times.....such as during the TV Debates and during this TV Blackout.
Well, thats my two cents....
Treg / Tempe AZ Tempe Meet Up leader
We are loosing supporters at the Margin....
my experience in Arkansas
I don't know where you live or if you are in a 2/5 state, but here in Arkansas (our primary is Tuesday) I have seen RP TV ads on the local morning news shows and at other times. I don't listen to radio, but my wife said she heard an RP radio ad. In my canvassing the past few days, people have started noting to me that they hadn't heard of him before this week until they started seeing his TV ads. I agree that it seems difficult to imagine how they spent $17.8M last quarter when they barely had gotten that amount in by the last week of the year and when they had been running such a frugal campaign to that point, AND they don't give us precinct leaders any materials without charging an arm and a leg, plus outrageous shipping charges. BUT, I don't know the extent of their ads or paid ground efforts in IA or NH. They key problem I see is tha tthe ads they are putting out there don't seems to mention at all his position on the war. To me, that would be the clincher, plus ending the IRS and the personal income tax. Those two things seem to be strangely absent from his ads and campaign materials (except the "Independent" slim jim), and it is THOSE TWO THINGS that people in my canvassing seem to be sold on when they come up. The simple fact is, those are two things that people can relate to and which completely distinguish him from "Hillary O'McRomnabee" (LOL) If Dr. Paul came out with an ad showing severely maimed soldiers and dead Iraqi kids followed by Dr. Paul saying that all of thise senseless tragedy could have been avoided if we had stuck to a Constitutional foreign policy and next year, when hundreds/thousands more people are pointlessly killed and maimed who are healthy and alive today, we would have been able to prevent that had we brought our troops home NOW, that ad would work. Something like "every passing minute is another chance to end this war and bring our people home to safety. Protect our troops. Vote Ron Paul." etc. Instead we get crap about sound money that goes in one ear and out the other. I love money backed by gold and silver as much as the next revolutionary, but the people don't know or care about this stuff, and they don't understand, no matter how much you explain it, how the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 has anything to do with the current price of gas/milk/bread, etc. It's like that old saying "what does that have to do with the price of tea in China." People won't vote for Ron Paul the doddering old obscure macroeconomist, but they will vote for Ron Paul the Peacemongering, Tax-Ending Revolutionary. Figure it out, HQ!!!!!
wondering....
is there any significance to mccain and romeny being an 'Inc." like ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT INC.? I noticed other candidates weren't incorporated. and just curious, but like giuliani has 12 mill left over, what happens to that money? does it stay in a fund for his future endeavors? he gives it to someone (buying a VP spot)? he doesn't get to pocket it does he?
leftover funds
I'm an attorney, but I'm not necessarily up on election laws or FEC regs. I do know that at one time, a retiring politican could keep whatever was left in his campaign fund. It seems to me, however, that that was changed in the mid-90's or thereabouts, and there was a rush of Congressman who suddenly decided to retire and not seek re-election, so they could pocket their campaign funds before the law went into effect. So, I don't think he can just pocket it, but I do believe that if he became someone's running mate, he could transfer it to the general election fund of his ticket. I would imagine he could possibly save it "indefinitely" for any future campaign.
They can also transfer funds
To ANOTHER "Political Action Committee" -- which can then transfer it to other candidates or campaigns. Say a Congressional or Senatorial re-election campaign, or something like that.
Washing that money back and forth through various PAC's was what Tom Delay was all about (remember him?)
Anyway -- I've done a pretty thorough analysis of the campaigns (available under Hot Topics on RPF) spending of $17M in 4th Qtr -- and other than a few questionable big $$ buys (the initial TV ads, and a big expenditure with a NH based printing & mailing outfit) -- everything looks to be legit. There is really NO evidence of any shenanigans, only inexperience and relative incompetence in getting ROI for the expenditures.
I think they are actually spending virtually everything they can on SDT state ads on radio and TV, and that there will be relatively little money left after Feb 5th. If the campaign DOES accomplish any significant wins on SDT then enough new money will flow in to actually take advantage of the parts of the campaign organization that have been built in a *few* of the remaining states. There will likely be little enough left at the end, and that can easily be "spent" on a warp-party or two for campaign staff and the like. Doubtful much of anything would be available for xfer to any PAC's.
It appears that Mitt Romney
It appears that Mitt Romney who states he is good on the economy is the candidate most deeply in debt. The only true fiscal conservative, Ron Paul, is totally debt free
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free
-goethe
I think
You might have been looking at 3rd quarter. And even then, I figure his debt is easy enough for him to erase by personal donation.
Not so. Romney has slightly
Not so. Romney has slightly more cash on hand than Ron. Ron has the second best amount of remaining cash, but all Republicans lag so far behind the remaining Democrats it's not even funny.
I think I missed something
Am I missing something here? From those numbers, it looks like Romney came in first in Q4?
I'm almost sure he was
I'm almost sure he was spending money he didn't have yet. If you look at his debts they're massive. His 4th quarter totals probably include his loans.
donors
I would love to see a break down of donors. I saw the one that compared the top corporate donors to RP's top military donors. What I would like to see is how many individual donors compared to their individual donors. They have sooooo much money because they have huge CFR donors. I really don't understand why one corporation donates to several different candidates.
that is because they are all pawns
they don't really care which one gets elected. their plan is to be in the back pocket of every one that would bow to be a puppet
**That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them
4th Quarter Reporting - good website
Here are the campaign finance reports for the 4th Quarter:
http://www.opensecrets.or...
The Ghoul
I think the most shocking thing about this report is Giuliani...
A total of 60 million dollars raised! Dropped out!
What about military donations?
Anybody hear anything about military donations for last quarter?
My letter to the editor Andrew Malcolm
Great article Andrew Malcolm!!
I read your piece and thought, "gee, what an honest depiction of the last quarter fund raising totals for 2007, I'm going to have to drop that writer a line and share with him my appreciation". ERRRRRRRRRKKKKKKKKKK, slams on the breaks. Listen to what I just said please. I felt compelled to write this journalist for simply stating FACTS! Not a puff piece whatsoever, but a collection of facts put together by Andrew Malcolm to create a simplistic piece of journalistic integrity. And after reading this non puff piece I felt compelled to thank this fine gentleman for just telling the truth! Now if that doesn't shed light on the feelings of the average Ron Paul supporters frustration with the MSM in a nut shell, I don't know what does. We clamor for anything, anything at all. Well at first we did but now I have resolved myself to the grassroots door to door campaigning that I believe will pay dividends in the long run. It is sort of a blessing in disguise because now we are all concentrating on becoming precinct captains and reaching out to people face to face door to door rather than depending on the media to do it for us. Nevertheless it is nice to see some Mainstream Media coverage of the good Doctor's accomplishments. Thank you once again sir, your article is quite poignant and is a fine example of journalistic integrity in keeping with the highest traditions of a sacred profession, that unfortunately, has seemingly been perverted by impostors who have decided to betray their fellow man for a few pieces of silver. I certainly hope this temporary renumeration was well worth the destruction of your credibility or the soiling of one of Americas most treasured institutions, "THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS"!
Yours forever in liberty,
Stephen Dupont
New Bedford, Massachusetts
word
remuneration, not renumeration. Common error. I know, renumeration would appear to make more sense, but it is not a word. The word is remuneration.
My letter to the editor Andrew Malcolm
double post, again sry
CANDIDATE / Q4 PRIMARY
CANDIDATE / Q4 PRIMARY RAISED FROM DONORS / CASH ON HAND AFTER DEBT REDUCED(now this includes general election)
MITT ROMNEY / 7,8 MILLION / - 32.9 MILLION
JOHN MCCAIN / 5.2 MILLION / - 1.6 MILLION
Huckabee / 4.3 MILLION / 1.8 MILLION
CLINTON / 19.9 MILLION / 32.9 MILLION
OBAMA / 15,1 MILLION / 17.8 MILLION
RON PAUL / 19.x MILLION / 7.8 Million
Why exclude general election funds ? 2 reasons. 1 they can´t be used for primarys 2 since they are from maxed out donors it do not reflect donor support in numbers.
But as far as I know general election funds are included in CASH ON HAND for all candidates EXCEPT for RON PAUL, which makes his number even stronger
Well
Why except for Ron Paul???
Great job, Grassroots Patriots!
Ok, reach around and give yourself a big ol', well deserved pat on the back! You deserve it! "They" may not want to mention it on their pretend news stations and garbage articles, but they KNOW it! The more the word gets out and the more people see what they are doing, they'll be waking up! More and more and more are, everyday!
YOU are this rEVOLution! WE are doing it! Keep it up and even turn up the volume! The time has come and our leader is here!
Ron Paul for President 2008!
The only way we can lose is to forget that we are winning!
democrats raised more?
He raised the most for republicans but not democrats right? I heard Obama and HIllary both "raised" more than 100 million. There's no way that many people contributed to them. To me that screams "special interest" louder than any other candidate. So it's just the republicans right?
That $100 million figure is
That $100 million figure is for the entire race, not the 4th quarter. Clinton raised $26.8 million in the 4th, and Obama raised $22.85 million. So RP was in the ballpark.
Individual Contributors
Does anyone see any information on the number of individual donors? That number will probably be even more impressive when compared to others.
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"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal
rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." --Thomas Jefferson
Isn't it amusing
Romney gives himself 18 Million, and he's STILL $32,918,553 in debt!!!
And people are actually voting for this man on the premise that he knows how to balance a budget?
That is a very important observation
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"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal
rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." --Thomas Jefferson
Where is the link?
Where is the link to the official data for all GOP candidates? How do you justify your claims?
Hey remember what Mitt Romney said
at the Florida GOP debate? :
"But I can tell you this. I have raised more money than any other Republican in this race. Raised more. Friends of mine have come together, people I knew in high school, and helped raise money for me. So I've raised more money."
He can lie, but he can't hide!!
Visit my Ron Paul blog at A Northern New Yorker for Ron Paul
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"No matter how cynical you get, it's impossible to keep up!
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Well... he has.
He's raised nearly $60 million for the race: (not just the fourth quarter, and not including loans to himself):
http://www.foxnews.com/wi...
so to be fair, he isn't lying at all. Ron Paul did blow everyone else away in the 4th quarter, but that doesn't constitute the whole race.
Call Romney a LIAR
PUBLICLY. He publicly, at the earlier debate, insisted his campaign "raised" the most money, excluding his own contributions. He raised $9 million, Paul raised $20 million. Is that the kind of accounting we can expect from Romney as president?
That is not a mistake, a math error, or an oversight, that's a HUGE difference and it is a LIE from Romney.
people who are maxxed out and still wanna donate
check your name on open secrets to find out if you are maxed out
you may not be it showed less for me
"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent" Thomas Jefferson
next question
where did they spend 17+ million?
sure didn't spend a penny in my state
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lets push it to the front page on digg so thousands can read it
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http://www.digg.com/2008_...
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How can this be right?
The last report the FEC shows Ron Paul filing was on 3/12/07???
http://query.nictusa.com/...
Where are these numbers coming from?
The FEC web site is not showing his 4th qtr. report???
All the other candidates have their 4th qtr reports here, but when you click on Ron Paul you get a blank screen
http://query.nictusa.com/...
The official numbers
I called the Federal Election Commission and this is how to find the filing. Go to:
http://www.fec.gov/financ...
type 'paul' in the partial name of committee field. When the page loads scroll all the way down to the second to last section where you can view/dl the file for Q4,
or just go here: http://query.nictusa.com/...
Cheers!