Neo-Cons Exposed In Washington Post-THERE IS HOPE FOR AMERICA
Posted February 4th, 2008 by Republicae
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For the first time a National Newspaper has exposed the Neo-Cons as the Red Communist they are, perhaps things are changing more than we know, perhaps there is a chance that Liberty will prevail in this country once again. Perhaps our REVOLUTION has a better chance for success then we recognized....
RON PAUL 2008
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Someone should post that
Someone should post that graphic at FreeRepublic. I no longer have an account there, but they need to see that.
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Liberty for Dummies
They did homework and everything
It's not often that you get to see actual news (regardless of the content). It's been awhile since I've seen something that wasn't just one news organization repeating some rumor heard on another new organization that gets repeated until its true.
These guys actually did some research.
The Washington Post is quite independent and owns other media
including Newsweek, some television stations, other newspapers, Check out the list here:
link to the media owned by the Washington Post Corporation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...
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I only see this as just another attempt
for MSM to sway people toward a Democratic White House this time around. I strongly believe that the powers that be have been playing "good cop/bad cop" since Bush Sr. We know how that game is played. Both cops are actually bad, but the victim believes one is good. In this case the victim is the American sheeple.
While we had a pretty good economy under a Clinton White House, he did bring us NAFTA which has been a disaster to the middleclass. Most people only want to remember the good economy in those years. NAFTA is just a baby step toward the North American Union.
Then we got GW for eight years.
Now it's time for the "good cop". Enter Obama/Hillary. Of course WE know they are CFR members and not openly opposed to the NAU like Ron Paul. WE know that they are "bad cops."
The sheeple of America think that one of these CFR members are going to rescue America.
I'm not saying there isn't hope for America. But I believe this is just more evidence of "divide and conquer". Let's face it, the MSM isn't going to do liberty any favors unless it benefits them (and the powers that be) more than it does liberty.
The key is in educating people, not hoping and praying that the MSM will all of a sudden become uncensored, fair and balanced.
A Good Start
But they need to do one of the neo-libs now as well, and factor in that they all fall under the same tent known as the CFR.
Neocon
Dr. Keyes is a neocon. Boy am I a fool. They sure don't sound at all liberalish to me. I thought Alan Keyes was totally libertarian. I thought he was the same as Dr. Paul except that he wants absolute and complete Pro-Life with nothing left to states or women and that he wants the church back into government. Those things don't make him a neocon do they. Neocons to me are people who came from the left of center somewhere to secure the party for the left so that they own both parties.
Not All of Them!!
I don't see William Harriman, Prescott Bush, Allen Dulles, Carles Cabell, George H. W. Bush, E. Howard Hunt, Frank Weisner, Wiiliam Donovan, William Harvey, Richard Bissell, Dick Cheney, John Negroponte, Richard Helms, James Woosley, etc., and other bigtime Nazis listed here.
Must read article.
Ron Paul has discussed this very subject on the floor of Congress.
Here is the vid: http://www.youtube.com/wa...
The names are interesting
Thank You for posting.
Alan Keyes...........Very interesting...They wear all sleaves, don't they?
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There is life at the end of the tunnel my friends!
I can't believe...
Cheney actually avoided being listed as the Head Evil Henchman on the flow chart and not even listed as part of PNAC. Damn he's good! Evil to the core and the downfall counter-president of America - but smart.
glaring omission
Somehow, the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Trilateral Commission didn't make the cut for the NeoCon Globalists/Pro-Stalinist Right Wall of Shame?
"We don't have to start a brand new revolution...All we have to do is restore the original Constitution." -Ron Paul
...should become a 4'x3' sized sticker
This should become a 4'x3' sized sticker for every Blazer/Truck backside.
Kidding aside, it's been an eye-opener for me too, although I must agree with some that seeing Ayn Rand on it -at first- was a surprise.
"Live and learn", I guess.
Atlas Shrugged
Some people believe that the Bilderberg Group commissioned Ayn Rand to write Atas Shrugged as a way of explaining their cause and how it was supposed to work. The problem is that it was only supposed to be sold to their members. It was never meant for the general public. I saw a Youtube video with an ex-Bilderberg member explaining this.
Ayn Rand
I was shocked to see Ayn Rand appear on there and would like a better explanation from the author creator of the chart. I have never seen anything that supports her being connected with the Neocons except for Alan Greenspan being one of her main disciples and it's not her fault he went astray and the fact that she was prowar in certain situations. But I hardly think Rand would agree with the war actions and policies of the Neocons today which is threatening our individual freedoms and Constitutional rights. The neocons don't come close to portraying Rand's ideal of man and integrity.
B.S. The Washington Post screwed up (on purpose?)
The "Rand" that is associated with the neocons is actually the Rand Corporation -- an early "think tank" where many of them worked.
The neocons had NOTHING to do with Ayn Rand (they may have read her books -- but so did millions of other people. And methinks they stuck her picture in there either because they are seriously mistaken or as some type of inside joke).
AYN RAND was the anathema of a Trotskyite neo-con.
I was confused by that myself...
But, considering it's the WaPo, and further considering your "(on purpose)" I'm seeing clearly now. Thanks. Media bias and agenda never cease to amaze me when they trump the obvious truth, and unless I'm missing something the only thing Rand & Trotsky had in-common was a Russian heritage.
JMR
Anything To Sell A Book -- Even The Truth
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A quirky ending imagines George W. Bush looking back with satisfaction on world events in 2016, suggesting that history may redeem the neocons, which seems unlikely at best, and possibly delusional. But when historians gather to render that judgment, this mostly even-handed book will deepen the context of a very strange time. *
Ted Widmer, director of the John Carter Brown Library at Brown University, was a foreign policy speechwriter for President Clinton. His next book, "Ark of the Liberties: America and the World," will be out in July.
I'm not the brightest guy in the world but somehow the idea of preemptive warfare strikes and being the bully in the classroom (world domination) didn't get past even me as being a bad idea -- I figured out the neo-cons were war mongers all along w/o much help from others and their take on matters.
There was a new Revolution
And our grandparents missed it. (Fairly long read, but it does help with when this started and how deep it goes) Fascinating, really.
http://www.mises.org/stor...
FDR's Administration was
FDR's Administration was filled with Socialist and Communist, such as Dexter White and of course, don't forget John Maynard Keynes who helped bring us the whole fiat monetary scheme and Brenton Woods agreement.
TIME FOR A REVOLUTIONARY PURGE...A RON PAUL REVOLUTION!
Actually, most of them were fascisti (corporate-socialists)
And they had GREAT admiration for Mussolini.
Go dig up an old movie "The Prime of Miss Jean Brody" if you want a take on how the sentiment was popular with a wide range of people.
Don't believe it? Go look up the Roosevelt administration's 1933 NIRA and look at that how they even copied the symbolism with the nazi-like Blue Eagle logo. NIRA was basically a blatantly outright collusion of BIG corporations and government, creating cartels, companies being still privately OWNED, but under government "control and guidance." It was ruled de novo unconstitutional in 1935, and temporarily abandoned, but returned de facto as soon as the War began (under wartime "emergency" powers).
Unbelievable that Americans
don't want to do anything about it! At least Ron Paul supporters are aware of the dastardly schemes going on. It makes me want to pull my hair out to think anybody could support another warlord like McCain...........as if Bush wasn't enough........this guy is a real piece of work.
I could not be happier.
Reading my past posts you may have noticed I use the words, "commie", "communist', and "trotskyite" quite a lot. Some may have thought I was just some kind of crazy anit-communist. Anti-communist yes, crazy no. This article and the flow chart helps to explain what I have been trying to introduce to people in this forum concerning who and what the neo-cons aka neo-communist are.
So many people want to blame the "GOP" well as far as the neo-communist have had a free reign under George W. Bush they are correct to criticize the GOP. However the extreme policies of these neo-communist in the Bush's government are not "right wing' or "conservative" but as you can see in the article and flow chart are crazy pro-war lefties.
I believe the ONLY way to success for our "movement" (restoring our Constitutional Republic) is through the GOP. We must take it back. If that means RP must run on a third party ticket to win The White House so be it. I suspect once inaugurated he will become a Republican and clean house.
I am with you Airborne...I
I am with you Airborne...I am a virulently ANTI-COMMUNIST/ANTI-SOCIALIST and view Neo-Cons and Leftist Democrats as Traitors. It would be nice to see both Jeffersonian Republicans and Jeffersonian Democrats once again.
Glad to hear it, Republicae.
It is our job to point our these communist/Trotskyite enemies any place we see them. Shame on anyone who supports these neo-con policies.
I agree...it is time to
I agree...it is time to expose them for what they are, at every turn, every corner....Joseph McCarthy was absolutely right on his hunt for the RED BASTARDS!
Things are going to get interesting ...
as people wake up to these facts. This thread and the article/flow chart that inspired it is just the beginning. I believe once the average American realizes what has been going on in their name there will be a sea change.
Flow Chart!
Amazing! A chart showing how sh** has flowed for the past 80 yrs!! And of places the Wash Post!! Good for Peter & Maria Hoey (golf clap).
4th International
The Neocons are really a faction of the
4th International. They are radical socialists, whose main objective has always been one world government. Skeptics need only read their own documents to discover the truth. They are arrogant to a fault, and believe that most people are too stupid or lazy to actually read them. From what I've seen lately, I have to agree.
If we don't wake up soon, America is finished.
Also check out the Fabian
Also check out the Fabian Socialist, the agenda is the same....by the way, George Bush's buddy Tony Blair is a Fabian.
Euro Branch
..is described here. Check out the reference to Common Purpose as a matter of warning. www.eutruth.org.uk
We are rooting for Ron Paul and sane politics.
'I always think of all you canvassors and precinct leaders at the front line.
Good luck out there &Thank you. It's appreciated'.-fip
Ayn Rand doesn't belong on that sheet
I find it terribly offensive and just plain wrong to put Ayn Rand on a sheet of leftist socialists. If there is anything she wasn't, it was a collectivist.
She was as diametrically opposed to any form of collectivism it's stunning they would include her in that poll. She had her strange political leanings, but she was nothing near the statists and communists.
Ayn belived in individuality as tightly as any Libertarian or old guard Republican.
Dr. Paul has spoken openly how Rand's "Atlas Shrugged" changed him deeply...it has me as well. That opus truly will open anyone's eyes to the folly of collectivism and explains how systems like that collapse under their own weight.
Ayn Rand, a collectivist, communist, or neo-conservative? Never
Ayn Rand would laugh at the suggestion that she was in any way
Ayn Rand would laugh at the suggestion that she was in any way connected to their thiinking.
She was an Objectivist, as am I and that's so far from neocon as to be diametrically opposed.
I wonder if that is where his son got his name....RAND??
interesting...
I asked him that question
I asked him that question this week. he said he likes Ayn Rand but it came from Randall --> Rand
Nice guy by the way. Did I shake the hand a of a future president :)
I think you are missing the
I think you are missing the point of the diagram. It is showing the various influences that have brought about the Neo-Con Philosophy. Rand had connections to and was influenced by Wohlsteller and the school of thought that helped formulate the entire Neo-Con movement. While this does not necessarily mean that she was a direct contributor to the movement, it is apparent that she influenced several people within the movement as can be seen by those who either served on the Rand Corporation or were influential in the University of Chicago. As you can see the connection between Rand and Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, etc. was the Albert Wohlsteller connection.
You are wrong. Ayn Rand had
You are wrong. Ayn Rand had no connection to the Rand corporation. She chose her name from the typewriter she used, thats all.
Further there was no connection between Albert Wohlsteller and Ayn Rand. And reading some of what he was all about I can say she was not influenced by him at all.
Gentle reader, there is a lot of sloppy stuff going on , especially on DP, I suggest you read Atlas Shrugged yourself and then you will see what I am talking about.
I didn't say that there was
I didn't say that there was a direct connection between Ayn Rand and the Rand Corporation. I said that the connections were there between Ayn Rand and Wohlsteller, as well as the Rand Corporation.
However, there were connections between Ayn Rand and Wohlsteller, just as there were connections between H.A. Hayek and Wohlsteller, as well as Leo Strauss. This does not mean that these connections posed a direct influence on the later views of either Rand or Hayek, but the connections and the influences, either positive or negative, were there. Now, do I think that Rand should be included on the chart...no, I don't think Ayn Rand even approached the ideology of Trotsky any more than I think Hayek came close to that ideology.
A good book on the subject is: Leo Stauss and the Politics of American Empire by Ann Norton. It goes into depth of the evolution and the conflicts between Leo Strauss and Ayn Rand as well as Hayek.
I have read each and every book by Ayn Rand, H.A. Hayek, Mises, Rothbard, Bastiat, Garrett, Menger, Boehm Bawerk, Hazlett, Turgot, Nock and just about every other book on various economic and social thought. The trouble is that we tend to get our vision pigeon-holed by any thought that there could be a connection between those we hold as "sacred" to the cause of Individualism and Liberty and those who are Collectivists. We fail to understand that many of these people we hold in high esteem had numerous encounters and discussions those we now consider enemies and traitors. Hayek was, at one time, involved with the London of Economics, a Fabian Socialist school, they still have a department named after Hayek and yet, I consider the Fabians as some of the most dangerous threats to our Liberty, but it doesn't make be avoid reading Hayek even if he had such connections in the past.
Now an interesting thing
Now an interesting thing about Ayn Rand is when she was called before the House Un-American Activities Committee back in 1947. You can see, through her testimony, that she totally rejected the ideology of both the Leftist and the Right. She would have made a horrible Neo-Con for the simple reason that she didn't believe the government had the right to lie to the American People.
I, personally, love her definition of Communism: "Communist propaganda is anything which gives a good impression of communism as a way of life. Anything that sells people the idea that life in Russia is good and that people are free and happy would be Communist propaganda.” She was, of course, referring to the push by the American Movie Industry and the federal government to raise support for the Soviet Union as an ally to the United States in the war against fascism.
This is very similar to the propaganda view the Neo-Cons take, especially when selling the idea of a Police State to the American People as something good and beneficial.
If you read any of the works of Leo Strauss, you will quickly see that they are filled with subterfuge, mis-direction and elitist code for social management. His writings, contrary to Rand's, is filled with the idea that a small cabal of elite managers are necessary to govern the "peonage" of the population and make all decisions for them and their welfare. There is no individualism within the Straussian Ideology, only Specified Elitism.
Interesting
This is interesting. I wonder why they would be doing this?
Still, very encouraging as many people don't have a clue about was is going down. what has always amazed me is that the media staff must surely know Ron Paul is right and has the long term intersts of ameica at heart. (Their own kids & family)
'I always think of all you canvassors and precinct leaders at the front line.
Good luck out there &Thank you. It's appreciated'.-fip
Me Too!!
I always think, "Don't these repporters and anchors have family of their OWN that they CARE ABOUT???"
The only answer if they know the truth, is that they are afraid.
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I think it is starting to DAWN on many of them....especially
the news editors. Let's face it, the news editors are really the force behind what is put out there for all to see and hear.
These are the people that FUNNEL what is shared. I think many of them have seen the reports of international networks about the fast approaching economic collapse of America and they know that their credibility is on the line and their job.
The CHAOS that we are all seeing right now, the PANIC of the GOP establishment....of wanting to BLAME someone is only working in Ron Paul's favor.
According to some...
Reagan hated GHWB, calling him a CIA man, a trilateralist, etc. during the 1980 primary. He gave in to GOP pressure to choose him as a running mate rather than a type of co-presidency with Ford. He also conceded to 2/3 of his cabinet being neocons. Reagan was considered a Goldwater conservative before that.
IMO, this is a clear attempt at separating the Democrats and wouldn't you know, GHWB, from being considered bad elements in our recent political history up to the present. This looks good (actually, amazing) on the surface, but I have to remain skeptical. I think it's another way of making the Left look like the saviors. Of course it shouldn't hurt Dr. Paul tomorrow.
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The Upper Eschelon of the
The Upper Eschelon of the Democratic Party are just as much Neo-Cons as the Neo-Cons. They are all Fabian Socialists who seek to implement a de facto Socialist State in the U.S. I view them all as Traitors! In fact, the Neo-Cons were, at one time back in the 50s and 60s, Democrats.
It is unfortunate, but this plague had infested the Reagan Administration preventing many of the Reagan reforms.
What happened to
What happened to Jeb Bush.Project for a New American Century?
It's Going By The Name -- American Interprise Institute (AEI)
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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http://www.aei.org/
Here's one of their proud members (WOLFOWITZ):
http://www.aei.org/schola...
Here's what CMD has to say on the subject:
http://www.sourcewatch.or...
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edited to add:
Rebuilding America's Defenses
http://www.newamericancen...
See 'Scooter Libby' the same guy that GWB excused; very close associate of dick(head)CHENEY -- among other names.
Anyone have the low down on
why Wolfenson was replaced with Wolfowitz
Hmmm (?)
Why would Ayn Rand be on this list? Or Ronald Reagan?
"Many of us agree that you and I have no right to use coercion against people who don't owe us anything. The same prohibition applies to groups of people who constitute the government. The reason is simple: unjust acts do not become just when legalized. "
The Reagan Administration
The Reagan Administration was infested with Neo-Cons and they set the stage for the election of Big Daddy Bush and the NWO.