Obama vs. Ron Paul on myspace
Posted October 14th, 2007 by bamboooodmad
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Ron Paul 2008 has 69626 friends.
Barack Obama has 181516 friends.
Yet, when I did a search on myspace for "Barack Obama", I got 79,800 results.
When I did a search on myspace for "Obama", I got 121,000 results.
When I did a search on myspace for "Ron Paul", I got 142,000 results.
When I did a search on myspace for "Paul", I got 2,240,000 results. ;~)
What does this mean? Ron Paul may not have as many friends on myspace (so they say), yet he definitely has more of a presence. If Obama really has 181516 friends wouldn't his search results be bigger?
"You're aware that the words "ron" and "paul" are much more likely to be found in a myspace page than "barack" or "obama". Many people are named "Ron". Many more are named "Paul". Many know of people named Ron and Paul, many know both a Ron and a Paul. The only time you hear the name "Barack" or "Obama", it's in reference to Barack Obama. So I think you're making a circumstantial connection in your search."
Yes I'm aware of this that's why i did a search for "Paul" which turned up many many more results. If you try it yourself you will see that all the results that turn up say Ron Paul, none are for "Ron" Or "Paul". If this was true then there should be fewer results in a search for "Paul" than "Ron Paul" which would contain all the Ron's, Paul's and Ron Pauls. Try it. I just did it again to make sure. It's true. Also, it's not case sensitive.
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Not much logic here..
It's not even going to be Obama vs Ron Paul anyway. More than likely Hillary vs Ron Paul ;) . Lets see what an actual doctor thinks should be done about the state of the hospitals & the system. ;D
Really?
Obama dominates all the online polls for democrats similar to the way Ron Paul dominates all the republican polls. I see Obama bumper stickers around town. Not one sticker for Hillary. I have never even met a person who likes her let alone plans to vote for her. Obama has meetup groups and young collage age people supporting him. And he has $$$. Have you seen his sites. They are very well done. Very modern and progressive. I don't see Hillary as a threat to the young vote, but Obama certainly is.
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Yea really... I don't think
Yea really... I don't think she SHOULD, and I don't think Obama should get the nomination either. Basically same vote in my opinion; a vote for the status quo. Gravel gets my vote if it was only out of these guys, for his kicking ass verbally in the debates, or Kucinich (haven't heard much of him, but RP endorsed him slightly)
But my outlining of thinking that Hillary will get it, is that I guess - because she's for big government. Plus, all the Republican candidates have pretty much talked as if she had already been given the nomination in the Michigan debate!! (Not our RP though, obviously)
These suggests she has a big lead,
http://www.realclearpolit...
http://www.realclearpolit...
She's got a warchest aswell, bigger in fact. I'd also like to make a prediction; upon me thinking Hillary getting the democratic nomination (god help us), she will elect McCain as a running mate. It may sound crazy, but I read an article somewhere (trying to find it) and it made sense. Trying to remember the reasons; but basically it is to bring along a fairly well known republican with a bit of respectability about him (the masses opinion?) to increase her voteability. Anyway, we will see. :)
Maybe so,
but my point is that Obama is competing more directly with Ron Paul than Hillary is. What I am constantly trying to do with people I come in contact with is to try to convince them that Ron Paul is better than Obama. I come from a liberal democratic family and most of my friends are self proclaimed "progessives". Most people just laughed at me when I would mention Ron Paul is republican. But slowly the laughter turned into curiosity and now I have about a dozen converts who have already registered republican and sport Ron Paul bumper stickers on there cars. Still working on my dad. He is to busy to check out all the links I send him.
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"Better to be flexible like bamboo than rigid like oak, for when the storm comes bamboo will bend and survive, where as oak will crack and die."
=D
Yea I actually get a kick out of saying I'm a Republican. Who would have thought.. lol
Then you clarify Ron Paul after the initial shock. ;)
I understand your point about Obama competing with RP, I mean if he loses the nomination, all those that have grown to despise Hillary will need somewhere to go; "young vote" flows to Ron Paul. I think thats kind of why I semi-want Hillary to get the nomination; her position is currently inflated. Making it easier for her to crumble when the time comes, she has to face our Paul.
http://themoderatevoice.c...
Great work on the preaching! ;) Keep working on your dad. Mine's also too busy to check the links/videos. Try burning the New Hope video to a dvd, place in the player then take over the TV when he's watching, tell him "if you love me as a son, you'll watch" hah.
Best of luck.
Nonsense
Nonsense post. I support your sentiment of supporting Ron Paul, but you are grasping for straws right here. Ron Paul certainly has a sizable myspace presence. Let's focus on expanding his support, not worrying about Obama vs. Paul on The Space.
Nonsense?
I find your comment to be somewhat self-righteous and condescending. Sure this is not a major issue. But do you realize how much press Obama and Ron Paul have both received because of there myspace pages? I did this little analysis after reading an article mostly about Obama and his internet presence. They also mentioned Dr. Paul. I was surprised to find that Obama had more friends considering how Paul dominates in all the online polls ect. and how popular he is among young people (like myself). Almost everyone I know has a myspace page. This is not nonsense. It's just another point in reference to what we are up against.
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"Better to be flexible like bamboo than rigid like oak, for when the storm comes bamboo will bend and survive, where as oak will crack and die."
Some guy on MySpace started
Some guy on MySpace started that site more than 2 years ago. He got over 160000 members signed up, and Obama’s campaign took the site over. They didn’t even compensate the guy.
That explains it.
He's fronting and a fake. People can activly pursue building there friends numbers, and I dobt the Ron Paul people are doing that, but maybe they should.
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"Better to be flexible like bamboo than rigid like oak, for when the storm comes bamboo will bend and survive, where as oak will crack and die."
Of course the guy asked
Of course the guy asked people to be 'his' (Obama's) friend. Ron Paul has no need. Plus what it comes down to is; quality over quantity. If I'm a politician (or a statesmen in RP's case), and I had a choice between- 70,000 people who have actively sought out their candidate and requested to join him, or 180,000 people who may have simply clicked accept to a friend request they have received. I know who I want as my support & grassroots base. Those 70,000 people or a substantial majority are obviously activists - or large proponents of the message Ron Paul is communicating.
Obama supporters - are Ron Paul supporters, who just haven't heard his message yet.
"Barack Obama" and "Ron Paul"
You're aware that the words "ron" and "paul" are much more likely to be found in a myspace page than "barack" or "obama". Many people are named "Ron". Many more are named "Paul". Many know of people named Ron and Paul, many know both a Ron and a Paul. The only time you hear the name "Barack" or "Obama", it's in reference to Barack Obama. So I think you're making a circumstantial connection in your search.
yes I'm aware of this
that's why i did a search for "Paul" which turned up many many more results. If you try it yourself you will see that all the results that turn up say Ron Paul, none are for Ron Or Paul. If this was true then there should be fewer results in a search for "Paul" than "Ron Paul" which would contain all the Ron's, Paul's and Ron Pauls. Try it. I just did it again to make sure. It's true. Also, it's not case sensitive.
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"Better to be flexible like bamboo than rigid like oak, for when the storm comes bamboo will bend and survive, where as oak will crack and die."
Searching names
Hi Bamboo and all,
You need to properly "tighten" the search terms. The absolute best way to get a comparison of his is to type in "Ron Paul" in quotation marks. That forces a boolean "and" function. Meaning that both the word Ron and Paul have to be included in the result. Some search engines even include other built in "tighteners" that force the terms within the "and" function to appear in the result within a certain number of words of each other. I think altavista.com (my favorite and one of the best for science related searches) allows you to even adjust this in their advanced function, or at least used to. So the fairest comparison would, in my opinion, be that of a "Ron Paul" and a "Barack Obama" as the terms of the search with both both the first and last names of each candidate in quotation marks.
Since I'm not really into that stuff and don't feel like it right now, maybe the originator of this thread can elaborate on whether he was using quotations around the actual search terms. In his original message, they appear around the terms when the names are used together, but they also appear in his original message around them as singular. When using a singular search term, it isn't necessary to use quote marks so I'm basically wondering if he used the quotes to separate the actual search terms in the body of the message out from the rest of the text. Or did he use them in the actual search itself. If you didn't use them in the actual search, then maybe you should, and get back to us with the results.
Nevermind, I just tried and apparently their search engine stinks. It seems to include the quotation marks as part of the search term itself. It says the engine is powered by google so I don't get it because the google engine allows for the "and" function and it can be forced with the quote marks.
I did get results though with the quote marks. 4 for Ron and Zero for Obama. : )
Sincerely,
Paul
I tied this as well
The myspace search engine works differently than google. Thats why I included the results for the search for paul as well as ron paul. If this was true (like I stated in the post), the search for ron paul should have included all the paul's, ron's and ron pauls which should have been many more results than a search just for the word paul. What this says to me is that Ron Paul has a much larger presence on myspace than Barack Obama. Also, most people simply do a search for Obama rather than Barack Obama, and everyone does a search for Ron Paul rather than simply Paul, so if your trying to get accurate results, like trying to determine who has the most searches at google, it's better to compare Ron Paul with just the word Obama. Check out www.alexa.com and compare all the candidates official web sites. Very encouraging results. Ron Pauls site dominates them all. www.ronpaul2008.com, www.barackobama.com, www.hillaryclinton.com, www.joinrudy2008.com, www.mittromney.com. Here is another good one. google trends.
http://www.google.com/tre...
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"Better to be flexible like bamboo than rigid like oak, for when the storm comes bamboo will bend and survive, where as oak will crack and die."