The Revolution is Going to a Brokered Convention - McCain Can't Win Enough Delegates

The worst possible scenario:

John McCain announces that the Terminator will be his running mate.

No brokered convention, and if there is one - RP: terminated.

If Hiltlary wins the democratic nomination:
Hitlary: terminated.

If Obama wins the democratic nomination:
Obama will be terminated.

If they decide to run together:
They will both: terminated.

What makes you think that McCain will not ask the Terminator to run along side him? And what makes you think that the American people won't fall for it?

The blueprint for 100+ years of war enforced, a draft, and a NAU. Oh my!
All of us:terminated.

Has 74 delegates

R3VOLUTION....gonna be a BROKEred convention if you don't donate now!

A Brokered convention is in the math!

1,191 delegates are needed to win. 1,142 delegates out of 2,380 have already been pledged. McCain is still over 600 delegates short. There are 22 states left to vote. The good news is that only three are winner take all (Virginia, D.C., and Vermont). That means the worst of the winner take all is over.
The key is to stop McCain from hitting the magic number of 1,191. The Paul campaign knew this a long time ago. The Huckabee people are waking up to it. The Romney people had been hoping to avoid it, as they are better connected in the business and Mormon worlds than inside the Beltway, and I can see him dropping out when he gets tired of pouring more of his fortune into the race as he is rapidly running out of states where he has personal connections (Michigan, Massachusetts) or relatively high Mormon populations (Utah, Colorado, Nevada, North Dakota). In fact, the only state where he will be a lock is Idaho (in which Paul will also do quite well), and maybe Nebraska and South Dakota. He’ll probably spit the delegates pretty easily with the “big three” in Texas (where Paul will also be a factor), Ohio, possibly even North Carolina, and boy will everybody be giving a lot of attention to Pennsylvania when it rolls around. Oh, and I am forecasting that Romney drops out of the race (or at the very least does poorly in a brokered convention setting). So them who gets his delegates? Not Huckabee, and not McCain because both of them are anathema in the eyes of a Romney devotee, especially since the pair are perceived as conspiring against him. Plus to the degree that his delegates are Mormons, who are well known to be very libertarian leaning, Dr. Paul could really pull a shocker.
Out of the winner take all states, McCain probably takes Vermont (17 delegates) and certainly D.C. (19 delegates). Virginia (63 delegates) is probable at this point, but not a lock. If the conservative vote coalesces around either Huckabee or Romney, things could break either way.
The prospects get a little dimmer for McCain after the winner take all states. McCain can only win states that go blue in general elections for the most part. So he will probably do very well in Maryland, Rhode Island, Oregon, and Hawaii. In all likelihood he’ll win (but probably not as smashingly) New Mexico, Wisconsin, and
Huckabee will certainly win Mississippi, and he has a good shot in Kentucky as well. After that the states he wins gets nebulous. This is good news for Paul, who has arguably underperformed in southern states. He’ll also do okay in Kansas, and could at least pull his proportional share in Texas, Nebraska (which is very Iowa-esque), Indiana, Ohio, and maybe North Carolina.
*Ron Paul already has at least 42 delegates. We need to remain positive RIGHT AWAY so that he doesn’t lose traction in upcoming states very soon where he may pick up more (Washington, Louisiana, etc.)
**IF WE CAN GET TO A BROKERED CONVENTION, ALL BETS ARE OFF!! Abraham Lincoln became the nominee after walking in with virtually no delegates, and eventually taking 39% of a four contestant vote.

Hate to break this to everyone, but in order to qualify as a candiate to the RNC you need to have a majority of delegates from 5 states. As far as I know, we don't have a majority in any at the moment.

This is from the GOP's websiste:

RULE NO. 40
Nominations

(b) Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of the delegates from each of five (5) or more states, severally, prior to the presentation of the name of that candidate for nomination.

These people seem to forget that the only subject that our kids are not brainwashed in is math. Everyone in thei country can do math. This could be their undoing not telling us that 2+2=3

I keep hearing about broken convention which look like it could be but i read some other threads that say a candidate must win minimum majority of 5 states or they can't be included in the convention. what is that all about? if he doesn't win 5 states then he can have all the delegates he wants he won't be included in the convention. can anyone elaborate on this a little more

AP News is reporting that Mccain now has 707 delegates. Is this true?

The power -brokers will do a blind poll of positions between candidates and find out that only Ron Paul's positions can beat the Democrats. (That's what was already shown in a previous blind poll.)

Then they'll pressure somebody to drop out for the good of the party and give Ron Paul his delegates and go from there.

IMissLiberty

In the winner take all states you have an election and you have a caucus. The election only decides who all the delegates for that state are forced to vote for. At the caucus it is to decide the individuals that will be forced to vote for the winner. If you notice Mcstain has won alot of the winner take all states. But! Who are the individuals? At the caucus each candidate selects a slate. This is a list of people that will be voted on for each candidate. The slate is hand picked by each candidates people. So your job is to push that slate to the top of the hill. We all know the team with the most people at the bottom will normally win this type of contest. However in a winner take all state this is a little diffrent. See Right now Ron Paul has 40 or 50 Delegates right. Wrong! He is only aloud to start with 40 or 50 right now. His team is actually much much bigger. In a winner take all state Ron Paul's Team members ar forced to push the ball for McCain at the beginning. If they can force enough people from other candidates to be forced to help McCains team in the beginning then he wins through mass force. In other word they assume if the bottom of the Hill is surrounded by all McCains people whether they be self appointed or by force then there is no room for the other team to even get to the ball to compete. Therefore McStain wins the game right off. but We are getting to the point to where noone can dominate the bttom of the hill. This forces a secound vote after this all individuals are free to push the ball up the hill for whoever they wish to it becomes a free for all also they are aloud to recruit members of other teams as they push. As they go up the hill and start running out of room people of one team might have to make a deal to stay in the game. In other words the strongest team will begin to absorb the weaker team members of the other teams. (when I say weaker I really mean the smarter ones will get converted). It will be a mass forced education game at this point. See Mcstain is fighting with our delegats right now. He has nothing. In the end McCain will not even matter When the secound round comes all that will be standing there for him will be his 200 year old mom. It will only take one little push and shes out. Its Huckabee that you have to worry about not mitt. Mitt has bought all his delegates and brought out the mormans. The mormans are not as big as the trinitarian church. They will not be as strong as the trinitarian chruch. Most of America cast their vote in a trinitarian church. These churches know how many people come out of their precint every year and they know how many people to send to the caucus according to how many people show up to vote in each county. Why do you think the churches do online polls on their sites. They gauge the competition. They collect names, addresses, phone numbers, and e-mails. They just like business and government see the benefits in storing personal information on individuals. This is why they can't endorse Ron Paul they can only choose one guy. They also want to change laws to suite their cause. It's not a new thing the catholic church did the very same thing back in 2nd century. This is why when they read this site and people are all down in the dumps and talking like their all defeated it makes them all feel good. It builds them up. This is what they want for you to get your apathy back and just give up and give in. We have alot of caucuses coming up we need oodles and goodles and gobs of people to show up to be delgats at the county caucuses we need an army to push our slate up the hill then we can set back and watch the ruggby show at home on TV and laugh our butts off as they go up the hill. Everyone bring your grandma, grandpa, mom, dad, brother, sister, friend, enemy, and every person you can talk into coming and voting for Ron Pauls slate. The county slate is the prize now. Its like superbowl of the whole thing. Whoever can get the most people there wins the game. Come on guys who gets the most people to show up at everything? THATS RIGHT THE PAULITES DO. Just imagine all those paulites standing at the bottom of the hill with their handcuffs on waiting to push the ball for McStain and then all of their handcuffs fall to the ground and a loud voice from the sky shouts out EVERY MAN IS FREE TO FIGHT FOR HIS OWN CAUSE! WOOOOHOOOOOOO! Now that will be ineresting to watch.

There will not be a brokered convention. I just don't see it going that far. Deals will be made.

If their combined total is > 1191 arent we probably screwed? Are the Huck delegates bound to the McCain/Huck ticket in the first round?

... Broke and Going to a Convention.

;)

I plan to submit an Affidavit of Vote next month when I vote for RP.

For Liberty!

I really, REALLY want Paul to still have a good chance but I dont get how we can compete with McCranks 600+ delegates. We have around 40 something right now possibly right? Mittface has 300+. Would Paul have to persuade that many over until he had the majority? What if everyone just keeps voting the same?

Where do *they* figure into your math?

Nevermind, someone answered that below. :)

"Welcome to 2008: The Year of Ron Paul!"

Update...

703 delegates for McCain

1,191 - 703 = 488 delegates short

Even if every single super delegate backed McCain, he'd still be short.

McCain does not have enough $$$$$

The End

i don't understand the election process in totality, so i was wondering what prevents delegates from being 'moles' that have allegiance that is different from their assumed allegiance. i mean, is their anything that prevents a Paul supporter from being a 'mole' as a Romney delegate? if not, why shouldn't Paul supporter try to infiltrate as delegates in other parties?