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ALERT--294 ROMNEY DELEGATES HANG IN THE BALANCE!

'SUSPENDS' DOES NOT MEAN DROPS!!!

WE HAVE CONFLICTINg INFO. ON DELEGATES..WHAT HAPPENS TO 294 ROMNEY DELEGATES

...WE NEED TO FIND OUT ...

(CNN) --

A candidate may "suspend" his or her campaign rather than dropping out, and technically remain a candidate. In this case, he or she is entitled to keep any statewide pledged delegates as well as their district-level delegates.

UPDATE:

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT 'SUSPEND' MEANS...IT'S NOT 'DROP'

ONLY GETTING DISINFORMATION MSM...other MSM conflicts with the above cnn claim.

LET'S WRITE RP CAMPAIGN AND ASK THE FOR PRESS RELEASE..ON MEANING AND RAMIFICATIONS...

WHAT HAPPENS TO ROMNEY'S 294 DELEGATES---only reliable sources please...guesses or MSM are useless.

http://www.ronpaul2008.co...

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This Is What CNN Has To Tell Us The Day After

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Heard on XM radio early this morning that even if ROMNEY had decided to stay in the Race and had 'won' all the remaining States, he still wouldn't have had sufficient Delegates to whip MCCAIN. In fact the jerk doing the reporting (KING) made it sound like he was reporting on a horse race (minus sound effects) telling the listening audience this tid-bit of information they call news.

I could care less about MCCAIN/ROMNEY because in my mind neither are the best choice for this once wonderful country of ours -- In fact the only man that is (i.e., RON PAUL) wasn't even mentioned. Heard HUCKABEE's name once or twice -- but for some reason (??) that jerk announcer made it sound as there wasn't anyone named RON PAUL. All was silent in this regard.

Jerks -- CNN, FOX, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, XYZ -- LMNOP -- They're all a bunch of $$ jerks whose mission has been to help throw this election, and they have been doing a pretty damn good job when it comes to earning their pay. Out of sight, Out of mind approach to election mentality and who IT IS we should be considering voting for. Damn them!

Rupert Murdoch

'I always think of all you canvassors and precinct leaders at the front line.
Good luck out there &Thank you. It's appreciated'.-fip -U.K

A truth about news http://www.globalresearch...

Face it

Suspend means nothing. Just a gray area between actively campaigning and dropping out, its a plow, he still holds delegates

If he does.....

Endorse McCain that guy would loose all credibility with his crap about McCain not being able to run the economy and country. I hope the media has a field day with this if he does. Crazy guy.

Not all of Romney's

Not all of Romney's delegates are committed delegates despite what happens.

thats

good to hear.

He might.....

be taking precautions to this matter since he has big bucks I would say he has his lawyers all over this one and is probably looking for the highest bidder for example, I will give you my votes if I become your VP. Or Puppet Master.

two things happened when romney suspended campaign

1 he is still entitled to get his matching funds
2 each state where Romney has delgates will be different as to what those delgates can do - in other words in some states they will be bound and in others free to choose another and in some possibly the state gop will decide where they go - I hope the campaign is looking into each states laws regarding this -also suspend in legal terms probably means "put on hold" and has a temporary meaning and most states which have held primaries will treat it as though he is still in the race when the laws are looked at closely - maybe when romney gets the check for matching funds he will totally drop out or throw his support mccains way

Weasel

"he is still entitled to get his matching funds"

Yeah, that's something a true conservative would do all right, take welfare payments for his campaign.

The Mormons really dodged a bullet here. If Romney had been the first Mormon president, there wouldn't be another one for a century.

-jcr

I smell a GOP rat

I smell a GOP rat

It reeks to high hell

No man spends 60 million, or whatever the final total was,
for nuthin...

Smell like McRomnebee is planning something

let's

let's keep trying to get answers on this 'suspend' and delegates? Rommey has 294 delegates.

This is what I found out

On the Republican side, decisions on how to allocate delegates is left to the state parties.
On the Democratic side, a candidate who "suspends" is technically still a candidate, so he or she keeps both district and statewide delegates won through primaries and caucuses. Superdelegates are always free to support any candidate at any time, whether the candidate drops out, suspends or stays in.
National party rules say that a candidate who "drops out" keeps any district-level delegates he or she has won so far but loses any statewide delegates he or she has won.

What about a republican who

What about a republican who 'suspends'?

Thanks for reply...but incomplete...and where got info?

On the Republican side

On the Republican side, decisions on how to allocate delegates is left to the state parties.

National party rules say that a candidate who "drops out" keeps any district-level delegates he or she has won so far but loses any statewide delegates he or she has won.

http://edition.cnn.com/20...

CNN ??

Ok..thanks for source and link. Read it in entire context.

CNN claims that republican party leaves delegates to the states on a 'suspend.'

CNN as source???? OK...as stated CNN reports conflicts with other media outlet claims on what happens to Romney's delegates as he 'suspends.' Many are saying that Romney 'keeps' his 294 delegates. And, earlier, I saw one where CNN said Romney keeps them.

We need to know...because Romney's move puts 294 delegates in limbo?

That is why I encouraged everyone to write to HQ and ask for press release giving the REAL answer.

I also found this

Michigan Romney delegates now are uncommitted
by The Associated Press
Thursday February 07, 2008, 7:29 PM
LANSING — Now that Mitt Romney has dropped out of the presidential race, his Michigan delegates will switch to uncommitted.

The state was stripped of half of its GOP delegates by the Republican National Committee for moving its primary to Jan. 15. State party leaders still expect the full 60 to get seated.

Based on that, the party says 45 delegates were to go to primary winner Romney. But Romney's delegates will now have to go as uncommitted, freeing them to vote for any candidate at the convention.

The delegates will be chosen next week at the state GOP convention. John McCain will get 10 and Mike Huckabee, two.

The state GOP also has three unpledged delegates.

http://www.mlive.com/elec...

oh...my...

who's on first?...ha... see what I'm getting at here...

I've already written to HQ to ask for Press Release on outcome for delegates ...on Romney's strategic 'SUSPEND.'

I hope all do...we must know..for planning.

Thanks for posts...finding this even...

Giuliani suspended also.

Let's say, for instance, that he later restarts his campaign....has he lost his previously earned delegates? I doubt it seriously.

Basically, Romney is dropping out but with a PS and that PS is that if McCain stumbles, implodes, gets sick, etc., Mitt can start the engine up again where he left off. It also gives him some weight at the Convention, say before turning his delegates loose (note the correct use of the word "loose") to vote for McCain. Maybe it helps him get some plank into the platform or a prime-time speech. Bargaining chips. Giuliani is playing the same game, though he doesn't have any delegates to speak of. In his case, it may have just been a face-saving gesture.

I believe Thompson simply dropped.

Say what?????

Gulianna HAD no delegates...Romney has/had 294.

...'has he lost his previously earned delegates? I doubt it seriously.'' you say.

I stopped reading right there....

Why would you attempt to answer such an important question with YOUR GUESS!!!!!!

294 Romney delegates are in limbo...

We need to write to HQ and ask for analysis and subsequent press release...

I believe I mentioned that Giuliani had no delegates

so you didn't have to use your usual arrogant correction attitude toward me. You spout plenty of opinions so how dare you castigate me for doing the same. You're a piece of work sometimes.

Here's the law in Massachusetts...

This is the law in Massachusetts on delegates. Likely to vary from state to state but if there is a roll call vote then, according to this law, there will have to be a pro forma vote for Romney by the delegates. Following that the delegates will be free to vote for... Ron Paul. Whether or not a presidential nomination has ever occured by acclamation and not a roll call vote is an interesting question.

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Chapter 53: Section 70I. Delegates and alternate delegates to national conventions; voting for president on first roll call

Section 70I. If there is a roll call vote for president at the national convention of a political party, all delegates and alternate delegates whose selection is subject by party rule to the approval of a presidential candidate shall vote on the first such roll call for that presidential candidate unless released by such candidate.

http://www.mass.gov/legis...
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Joe Ureneck

Great!!!

now, we seem to be getting somewhere...AN ACTUAL LAW!

I wonder if it, though, is in fact, for a candidate who 'suspends.'

It is for MA---yes, this is the info. we must track down to see what happens with a candidates 'SUSPENDS'

It is specific language and has ramifications.

This is very technical--so, I suggested writing to HQ to get a press release...soooooo much disinformation on this vital 'suspend.'

294 of Romney's delegates are in limbo????? ...we simply do not know.

Does anyone but me....think it important?

makes sense and also

if Romney decides to un-suspend the campaign a week before the convention, things may change from pro-forma back to committed for the 1st round. Is that how you would read it? Did you read anything about changing back from suspension to active campaigning?

Sounds like he dropped out to me

http://www.newsmax.com/he...

synonyms:
suspend = eliminate
eliminate = drop

WRONG...

"suspend" is a legal election term NOT a dictionary term.

and....

Never rely on NewsMax neocon site for ANY 'news.'

In addition, this article you provided says NOTHING ABOUT THE QUESTION HERE..

The article you give...says nothing about WHAT HAPPENS TO ROMNEY'S 294 DELEGATES????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

I noticed that wording, too

I think they are putting him on ice, but keeping the freezer door ajar in case the McCain thing blows up. Which indicates that even THEY know McCain is not truly viable. These grey clouds seem to have silver linings more and more these days.

He's Out

It says on ronpaul2008.com "NOW THERE ARE THREE" so it has been acknowledged by the campaign in that regard

I agree the campaign should put out a press release about it but I doubt they need any e-mails from us to tell them they are probably already working on one.

Can you not read????? Issue

Can you not read????? Issue is WHAT DOES 'SUSPEND' MEAN IN THE WAY OF DELEGATES....

YOU KNOW ROMNEY'S DELEGATES??????

MSM REPORTS CONFLICT.....

'SUSPEND I S N O T SAME AS 'D R O P '

Suspend means...

His delegates are not released. If he were to "drop out" his delegates would be released, but they are not.

STOP....

Where are you getting that info.

MSM provide mega conflicting reports on what happens to Romney's delegates.

SO...WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR CLAIM?

What the hell are you talking about?

Google it.

http://ap.google.com/arti...

Romney suspended his campaign, allowing him to hold onto his delegates. However, if

And For Edwards:

http://www.observer.com/2...

"John Edwards is suspending his candidacy, as opposed to officially dropping out, because it will allow him to hold onto the 26 pledged delegates he has accumulated"

RONPAUL2008 says

now there are three. so he's out??

this REALLY is important!

this REALLY is important!

good point! see other post

good point! see other post ..Here's What to Do...

I

hope people learn to read on here soon.

let's all...

write to official RP campaign and ask them to give base (Press Release) on an analysis of what 'suspend' means re: delegates, big picture, etc.

SUSPEND IS NOT SAME AS DROP.

The email from the campaign

The email from the campaign say to get to the Michigan meeting tonight and that delagtes will be available. Wether they are to be swayed or people are dropping out the important thing is to GET THERE AND GET ANY DELAGATES WE CAN. Please, anyone in Michigan, this could be crucial. get out there and bring us home some numbers.

McCain "suspended" his campaign in 2000

some interesting info here on what happens to suspended delegates.

article from 2000
they talk about McCain suspending his campaign, what happens with delegates etc
Do Delegates have free will?
http://www.slate.com/id/1...

In several articles, I noted that bound Delegates are "supposed to" vote for whomever the voters chose, but that they can actually end up voting for whomever they want though it would damage their political career.

i'd take a "damaged political career" any day if it meant i could take my "bound" vote for McCain and vote for RP instead!

~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
To learn what really happened, check out
www.whatreallyhappened.co...

will review...

will review this...it conflicts with other accounts too.

Can we write RP's campaign and ask them to address implications of the 'suspend' ......

out of Romney's own mouth, "I suspend my campaign..."

What exactly does that mean? He never said nor made it an official drop out he specificly used the words "suspend". Their up to something...
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"We, the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the Constitution." Abraham Lincoln

keep this questioning going...

keep this questioning going...we need INFO....ON 'SUSPEND' and what happens to delegates and MORE.

see all comments below...

We still need to get RELIABLE info. on what 'suspend' means. Still conflicting MSM info. Keep looking folks so we know how to plan.

"Romney ends bid, eyeing 2012"

http://www.politico.com/n...

Read it....he dropped out

He Quit

Romney quit. He is trying to unifiy the party behind McCain to prevent a brokered convention. That is the ONE thing we have staked it all on.

We are doomed unless God some how keeps McCain from getting sufficient delegates before the Convention.

Is this to solidify

the delegates so McCain gets the nomination.

With Romney "suspending" campaign are they hoping in remaining primary states McCain gets the delegates?

Anyone know?

#!$&*!

So I'm confused about this whole "suspended" vs. "dropped out". But to hear CNN tell it....suspended means different things to Republicans than it does to Democrats.
Apparently Democrats can keep their delegates and are still a back burner candidate. Republicans on the other hand have really dropped out and their delegates are in the hands of the state parties. The state parties decide who those delegates now go to.

Sounds like Romney made a deal with McCain alright.
Anyone know a clear and firm stand on what all this means? I sure hope something is on the official site tonight so we know for sure....

Doesn't change anything for me either way...still here and fighting 'til the Doctor says he's stopping....just would like to know.

this is why we need to know...

we need to find out.

FRAME THE ISSUE

Tell everyone you know that Willard Romney has DROPPED OUT.

"We don't have to start a brand new revolution...All we have to do is restore the original Constitution." -Ron Paul