Forget the GOP, they were our WORST enemy
No one wanted a Third Party effort, but then again, we "assumed" that the GOP party would play fair with the Paul campaign. Do you think it did? I don't. I consider the party itself as Ron Paul's worst enemy, more so than the press. The GOP lead the effort to diminish Ron Paul, and certainly encouraged the press to follow suit. I'd distance myself from the GOP as if it were a rattlesnake. I wouldn't even be proud to represent the GOP in Congress. They don't let Ron Paul have any impact there anyway, other than the occasional busrt of spoken intelligence We are on the verge of a real Third Party effort. If not now, when? Ross Perot, with no political background got 20% of the general vote. I'd like to think if all the conservative 3 rd party groups merged into the RPP (RonPaulParty) we might have a fighting chance. If Ron, himself is not so disgusted with his own party that he'd rather not bother any longer.
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You're thinking about it all wrong...
think Ali/Frazier. They needed each other, right?
The attraction of Paul/GOP is the tension between the two. USE the tension to advantage! HIGHLIGHT the differences. This will help put a label on the good Dr. that he can use to gain support. Highlighting differences is how products are sold.....
McCain vs.Clinton----dream matchup to run 3rd party
Some of you in here may be like me in that you would consider Obama as an acceptable choice for the presidency...please people, don't "he's CFR!! how could you do that?" Also, don't call me a troll. I've donated at least 5 times to RP's campaign. Notice that I said "acceptable" and not "clearly the best choice."
That said, as much as I'd consider Barack Obama and root for him against Hillary, I almost want to to lose IF and only IF RP considers a 3rd party run.
Think about it for a second. Two polarizing candidates that their own parties dislike (Mc more than Hillary).
We not only get some Obama votes, we get the conservative vote (hopefully), the Christian vote (if we ever tap into it), plus the Consitution/Libertarian parties. As much as I'd like a brokered GOP convention, this seems like our best chance.
Thoughts?
Just my opinion, but
McCain v. Clinton is a slam dunk victory for Clinton.
Agreed....
Ans as much as I dislike Hillary, I REALLY dislike McCain. Probably better for our country (and RP's platform) if Hillary gets the nod, as surely people will rebel from 4 years of her....shudder.....
Any Democrat Vs. McCain is a slam dunk win....
the republican party is history... no way will the people vote in a republican right now - why are 26 congressional republicans not running this year?? they know they are going to loose...
So, is One World Government "acceptable" to you?
So, is One World Government "acceptable" to you?
"We don't have to start a brand new revolution...All we have to do is restore the original Constitution." -Ron Paul
Oh boy
Oh boy
GOP, Democrat, third-party, write-in, doesn't matter to me
GOP, Democrat, third-party, write-in, doesn't matter to me, I'm voting Ron Paul. I'd rather get waterboarded with boiling water than vote for any of these other traitors to the Constitution.
"We don't have to start a brand new revolution...All we have to do is restore the original Constitution." -Ron Paul
Live in the present
The GOP candidate selection process is far from over. Chill on that third party BS until Dr. Paul drops the campaign. It's now down to 3 in the GOP, and RP's chances of becoming the nominee get better every day. I'm a precinct delegate to the County GOP convention, I am committed to becoming a delegate to the State convention, and then I'll see if I can get to the national convention in MN. There's plenty of time left on the clock, so why all the panic? You impatient people sitting at your keyboards all day need to get outside and get some air. Stop taking energy away from the folks that are actually engaged in the mission of getting our guy the GOP nomination.
RE: GOP: Keep your friends close
And you enemies closer.
Democracy is two CFRs and one Libertarian voting for the next President of the United States. Liberty is an astute politician armed with the facts to challenge the course our country is taking.
p.s. WE CAN ALL REFUND RON PAUL FOR THIRD PARTY...
as its a whole new ball game - if we take the donations he has received so far and DOUBLE THAT as we all donate again then he will have a pretty good amount of money and NEW VOTERS will donate to him...
we are already picking up Romney supporters and his message will continue to spread and get even more donors...
this is such a no-brainer we must all EMAIL HDQ TO ANNOUNCE 3RD PARTY NOW.... why waste ANOTHER DAY WITH NO MEDIA...
as soon as my delegate
as soon as my delegate responcibilities are over i'm an independant. you are right.. the GOP would run their own people against Ron Paul in texas every election... the Gop has been infiltrated threw many years with socialist/democrats calling themselves republicans.. the perfect example is the monkey in the white house!
EMAIL PAUL HDQ RUN THIRD PARTY...
Ron said he *will run third party if the people speak* so let us speak.
He really DOES have a chance as third party with all the hatred within the parties right now i.e. obama vs hillary, mccain vs romney, etc...
both parties have totally disgusted people enrolled who will turn to paul if given the chance....
BUT EVEN IF HE CANT WIN THIRD PARTY at least until November he can continue to get his message out. In fact if getting his message out *is* his primary importance as he has stated before, then he must go for it...
For those who say even less media coverage - how can you get less than zero which is what he gets now - only the internet is keep the message alive the rest of the news media has TOTALLY excluded him now...
It is a no-brainer to go third party - that really WILL GENERATE SOME NEWS... the whole nation will be talking RON PAUL
advocate.. all this "hatred"
advocate.. all this "hatred" is a dog& pony show.. its all a bunch of BS to keep the public thinking that there really is a contest when everything was decided long ago.. give me a break! the real problem is.. there is not 1 difference between demodummy or rino republican.. the deck is stacked with CFR lackeys on both sides so we the people have no real choice.. we are forced to vote for socialist A or socialist B... with Romney dropping out tho they may have made a mistake.. in Colorado Mcinsane is Hated! it will be interesting.
20% for Perot
And he dropped out, then came back in. That my friends is a HUGE percentage. The final day Dr. Paul can recieve the Libertarian nod would be the day they nominate their candidate at their national convention this summer. Time is ticking.
Both
Ron Paul can actually get the nomination from BOTH, there is nothing stopping both parties from Nominating him. Though he couldn't officially accept the Libertarian nomination till after the GOP convention it may not be a problem either.
Trust Dr. Paul
I know it is tempting to jump and maybe your right. We know what ever we do it will be a challenge. The main thing is to continue to make people aware of Dr. Paul's message at this point it make be good to cause the GOP heartburn.
As Far As Them Being An Enemy To The GOP
Vote RON PAUL 2008
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They sure in the heck haven't been his friend. If they were friendly, then they should have insisted that RON PAUL be given 'equal time' compared to the other Republican Candidates.
They should have pulled in and read the riot act to those other Republican Candidates smiling and poking fun at RON PAUL (you surely remember him responding to ROMNEY with 'Make Fun, Buddy') -- the GOP leadership should not have tolerated this biased treatment of this fine gentleman. But they apparently did nothing to change this behavior because it continues.
And not only that -- the man's a longtime respected U.S. Congressman for goodness sake // that alone should have demanded a higher degree of respect that what anyone (I'm including the MSM) have been dishing out when in comes to RON PAUL.
They've not only insulted the man they have insulted the position.
They're wrong and he's right -- And that's just the way it is.
Don't that piss you off?
Pisses ME off!!
But for practical purposes, RP should fight it out in the GOP thru the convention. If you think he's being ignored NOW!!!......
Third Party = MEDIA DEATH!!!!
It took Perot $$$$$$ to run a third party campaign. He had to BUY media access, which was of course FREE to the other clowns.
If a third party has no chance
and our chances are SLIM at best. Then you had better start considering third party again and change your thinking. Until then, donate and press on!
At the CPAC
Did you not see how fired up RP was? There are those who are bought and those who are principled. Who do you think is was cheering him on when he gave his speech?
I never made any such assumption regarding fairness
from the MSM, but thank you for telling me that I did. A 3rd party run has already been ruled out and put to rest. There's nothing to be gained in trying to revive this subject, other than to redirect the focus of RP supporters.
by who exactly ? ?
A 3rd party run has already been ruled out and put to rest
by who exactly ? ?
By Ron
Paul.
A third party is not viable
A third party is not viable - talk about a black out with Ron Paul now - you ain't seen nothing yet with a third party run.
No debates
No media
No Ron Paul
No Votes
Blackout can't get any worse
The blackout can't get any worse than it already is.
I find the GOP in my area
To be warm, welcoming and full of borderline Ron Paul supporters who are just disinformed.
Make friends with your local GOP, attend their events, bring your family, and talk about the constitution as it pertains to illegal war, money and bad legislation against everything unconstitutional.
They will listen and understand the truth. I have already converted 5 or 6 GOP people by doing this.
Me and my friend got some Huck supporters to vote him in at caucus just by showing up at their house the night before and spending time talking about liberty and sound money and why Ron Paul is the only Candidate that can beat Hillary.
After the way the GOP treated Ron Paul,
A real gentleman in the political arena, with the US Constitution as his guidebook.............I won't vote for a Republican ever again! They are rotten to the core. In fact, I'd love to see the GOP buried! So are the Democrats...........maybe the real cry from the wilderness is for an honest Party! That's what Lou Dobbs says! Maybe he's right.
You sir are an isolationist
you do not want to trade ideas with them. Very anti revolution you are
Boring
We are all individuals. The GOP (a group) is just a concept.
IMissLiberty
Only because the people in the GOP do not have the facts
Also Perot had billions of dollars, and Rush Limbag gunning for him. We have niether of those.
If you think there's a blackout now wait till it turns into a 3rd party race.
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"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." -- Henry David Thoreau
Strike at the root - Watch Money Masters
To be honest
I've been loudly against a third party run on this board and others... not because of the idea itself, but the timing. Last night on Ron's conference call, he mentioned, and I'm badly paraphrasing, "If we can't get the message out this way, then we will need to find another way." I'm getting to the point that I'm so put off with the GOP's handling of Paul so far that I'm actually starting to hope for a third party run.. it'd have to be all about timing tho.
On the other hand, it may just be me wanting it because it would mortally wound the GOP, probably end it.. and I'm feeling a little pissed at them right now.
This race first, however. It makes more sense.
enough with the 3rd party already.
If Ron goes 3rd party, then I'll consider... but at the moment, RP is GOP.
If you are trying to convince Ron to go Third Party, I'm sure he doesn't read this website.