I really wish you people would see the light and get in the delegate process.
Posted February 9th, 2008 by economics31
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I really wish you people would see the light and get in the delegate process. Look up your state. Contact your coordinator. Get in the process. http://www.ronpaul2008.co...
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Florida Republicans
Please pass it on to friends and family who are registered Republicans in Florida.
Becoming a delegate is a 2 step process. Very simple!!
STEP 1 -- Delegate loyalty oaths and applications have to be received by the Republican Party of Florida no earlier than noon on March 3rd and no later than noon on March 7th-- REGISTER YOUR INTENT TO PARTICIPATE:
Submit your National Convention delegate application form to the Republican Party of Florida. Be certain to check the box that says "Congressional District Delegate" :
http://www.rpof.org/resou...
Also you need to include the Party loyalty oath which MUST BE NOTARIZED:
http://www.rpof.org/resou...
STEP 2 -- Attend the delegate selection event in your congressional district:
http://www.rpof.org/resou...
This is mandatory. This is where registered district participants in your district will vote to select 3 delegates and 3 alternates from those who checked the "Congressional District Delegate" box in the application form. (Those who checked the "Delegate-at-large" box will be selected by the Republican Party of Florida itself at their quarterly meeting. They have to fill 34 slots.)
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Latinos for Ron Paul
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"You don't spread FREEDOM at the barrel of a gun." - Ron Paul
Salutes and GodSpeed to the RP delegates in upcoming states!
If you win it still, it will be in spite of the MSM, the Repulican Party as well as HQ.
Americans for many generations, including your grandkids will eventually thank you all!
BTW - How many would love to see the MSM anchors
trying to explain "How this Happened". Between the egg on their face and the huge big plate of crow for them all, It would be instant TV CLASSIC.
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for those who can't be delegates
you can always volunteer for the convention.
they need 8000 people.
http://www.gopconvention....
just a thought:
as many current or retired military need to be inside the hall as possible on hearts & minds patrol....
Do it!! It's not difficult. Look into the process in your
state and/or county.
Became a delegate yesterday
I along with 30 or so other RP supporters became a delegate yesterday. At our county precinct mass meeting, we came away pretty well. We may end up with 40-50% of the delegates at our county convention next month. We should send a sizeable contingent of RP supporters to the National convention. And others are doing this all across our state. Please, if you haven't done it yet, sign up to be a delegate. Learn about the process and get involved. Just imagine the impact we will have. We can shout down every neocon who takes the podium in St Paul in Sept. That will be truly glorious to watch!
This is what I'm talking
This is what I'm talking about.
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KEEP THIS BUMPED ALL DAY PLEASE!
IMPORTANT : YOU PEOPLE NEED TO IGNORE THE POSTS FROM RYAN SND SLAPSHOT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE.
If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE!
PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THIER EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS.
I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry.
I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.
The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM.
I know many of you are bummed about yesterday BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.
First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain has 600 delegates now and IF he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 600 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the ronpaul campaign strategy will work.
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.
What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
And we have lots of delegates.
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September-
-463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.
- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
- 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
- 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here :
http://www.gop.com/Images...
Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?
So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention.
The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008
SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now i assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.
Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.
We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? I assure you we have not!
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.
I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.
NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
Info on how to become a delegate here :
http://www3.webng.com/ron...
Dr. Steve Parent
These states still need delegates as of 2/17
*Arkansas *Florida *Idaho *Indiana *Kentucky
*Missouri *Nebraska *New Mexico *North Carolina *Oregon
*South Dakota *Texas *Utah *Vermont
https://voters.ronpaul200...
If you know anything about Idaho, let me know
I have looked into it for myself, and am under the impression that to be a delegate here, you must be elected. The easiest office is precinct committeeperson. If someone can correct that information, I would very much appreciate it. We have no coordinator, at least that I know of. The people in the GOP helped some, but when asked flat out about the precinct committeeperson spot in my precinct, I was told the position is already filled, and there was no further helpful information forthcoming at that point. Indeed, I got a spontaneous lecture on what a brave and good man George Bush is. Then I asked for assistance from the county elections office. They sent me a copy of the sunshine laws and a list of positions up for election. There was no "precinct committeeperson" on that list.
We have a meetup tonight, and only the most dedicated people show up these days. If anyone has any useful information on Idaho's delegate process, I would be VERY greatful to hear it and seeing the people most liekly to use it tonight.
I am getting a bit discouraged trying to figure it out by myself. I would really aprreciate hearing from anyone with information I can use!
Here is the link to Idaho info on the RP 2008 website
http://www.ronpaul2008.co...
I didn't check it out, you can do that.
Here in Oregon we file to be precinct committeepersons at the County Clerk's office, then we will be on the ballot, and if you receive 3 votes and no one runs against you, you win. Then the precinct committeepersons elect county GOP officers and delegates to go to the district convention or state.
Thanks, I had been to the RP site
but went back to find that yes, it still has inaccurate information. At this point, I will pretty much have to cal the county elections woman a liar and tell her to give me the paperwork, I guess. After getting the GWB lecture from the current precinct committeeperson (our local GOP contact, also) I called the county election woman, who told me the only things on the ballot this election are Sheriff and 2 commisioner's, and prosecuting attorney. I would like to be CONFIDENT she is wrong before I go demand the paperwork.
One last plea: Does ANYONE from IDAHO know if I am correct in believing I can run against this person? Or even if I am correct in believing this is the first step toward becoming a delegate?
We're actively organizing
We're actively organizing for MO.
I wish people stop complaing
and register as delegates
I wish I could be a delegate
But in CT, the delegates are not voted for, they are chosen by the winner of the Primary. I hope there were some RP supporters who masquaraded as McCain neo-cons here. If I could hit the rewind button, I would certainly have given that a try.
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"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal
rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." --Thomas Jefferson
Every state is different.
Every state is different. Get involved in your state if you can.
I would... but...
There's a high probability that I will be moving out of state before my states primary, unfortunately. However, I believe there are some people in my meetup group who are going to try and be delegates. I wish I could, but I likely will not be able to do it.
You could also show up and
You could also show up and vote for people in your meetup group if you can't be a delegate yourself.
If I'm able to
I will certainly do that. But, I can only do that if I'm still living here.
How to Become a Delegate to the Rep Nat'l Conv from your state
How to Become a Delegate to the Republican National Convention from Your State
http://www3.webng.com/ron...
...this was suggested within Dr.Steve Parent forum:
PEOPLE PLEASE STOP LOOKING AT THE POPULAR VOTE IN THE STATES PLEASE READ HOW WE ARE ACTUALLY WINNING IMPORTANT INFO HERE.
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
bump this all day long.
bump this all day long.
Even if a brokered
Even if a brokered convention doesn't take place... wouldn't it still be awesome to have a majority of our delegates voting on republian party platform issues? To send a message that we're watching them... that we won't go away quietly.
FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE A BROKERED CONVENTION IS STILL NOT....
possible, seek out SGP's (Dr. Steve Parent) analysis of the ongoing delegate process as we move toward a brokered convention. It's much more in depth (the election process) with various contingencies. Much more detailed than the layperson realizes and definitely beyond the scope of comprehension of "our" wonderful MSM.
I am posting this here for
I am posting this here for sable for i am Dr. Parent and here is what he was refering to you.
Original post here : http://www.dailypaul.com/...
IMPORTANT : YOU PEOPLE NEED TO IGNORE THE POSTS FROM RYAN AND SLAPSHOT BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE OR ARE TROLLS OR BOTH!
If you doubt my post go and research it yourself PLEASE!
PLEASE EVERYONE COPY AND SEND THIS TO THIER EMAIL LIST AND MEETUP HEADS AND ANY OTHER RON PAUL FORUM THERE IS.
I know many of you are new to the election process but don't worry.
I am going to go into some depth of how this all works so read and then read again if you need to.
The MSM is not reporting how to become the nominee in a situation like this so i will tell you to stop getting your info from the MSM.
I know many of you are bummed about yesterday BUT THAT IS BECAUSE YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THE ELECTION SYSTEM WORKS : Let me explain to you the reality of how to become the nominee.
First stop looking at who wins each states popular vote for most of these states the vote by the people is really nothing but a straw poll and have no real bearing on who will become the nominee. The only way this matters is if 1 person receives 1191 delegates that are bound by state rules to be commited to that candidate. So if a candiate like Mccain has 600 delegates now and IF he doesn't reach 1191 WHICH HE WILL NOT most of the delegates the state awarded him mean nothing and keep in mind in most of the states most of the people that represent the 600 for Mccain are actually Ron Paul supporters. NOW there is no possible way that anyone in the race can achieve this goal now because of the major split in state wins by the candidates.
Normally Convention Delegates do not matter because the convention is not brokered and we have a clear winner because someone has 1191 delegates. BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the ronpaul campaign strategy will work.
When a candidate wins delegates by winning a primary that does not mean there are actual people that won acting as delegates- these are virtual delegates.
What do I mean by virtual delegates: A virtual delegate is just a number - there are no actual people YET that will go and vote for the candidate who won the particular state at the national convention. We call these people convention delegates
The actual delegates are voted on (in most states) at a statewide delegate caucus after the Primary (which is just a giant preference poll) Who can be delegates? Anyone. In closed Primary states they must be registered Republicans, in Open Primary states they can be Republicans, Democrats, Independents.
And we have lots of delegates.
Out of the 2,380 delegates sent to Minneapolis St. Paul in September-
-463 delegates are bound all the way through the convention some of those 463 are Ron Pauls people.
- 565 delegates will be bound through one ballot. That is, they have to follow the results of the state election on the first ballot. After that, if no candidate has a majority of delegates, they are free to vote as they please and Mccain will not receive over 50% on the first ballot.
- 383 will be bound through two ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
- 318 will be bound through three ballots then they are free to vote for whom they wish.
I am not going to list every state and what the break downs are, just do the math from these numbers or look for yourself here :
http://www.gop.com/Images...
Bottom line is less than 1/2 of the delegates are bound by state party rules. Now do you see how we can win this thing?
So what happens now you ask? You look at the number of delegates that Dr. Paul has that are uncommited to the other candidates and will support him. these delegates are not decided by the popular vote ie: straw poll of the people. Since no one will have enough delegates to skate them through to the nomination we now must look at how many delegates NOT VOTES but delegates Dr. Paul has that are 100% uncommited to the other candidates and will be 100% for Dr. Paul and are free to vote for whom they wish.
This race will go all the way to the convention for there is no other way for someone to receive the nomintaion untill the convention.
The RNC will convene its annual Winter Meeting - and voters will continue to cast their ballots in the nation's primaries and caucuses. Candidates for delegate and alternate delegate to the convention will be elected - and thousands of convention participants and guests will begin planning their trips to Minneapolis-Saint Paul The first week in September 2008
SO WHAT DOES ALL THIS MEAN?
This means that all of the people that registered to become a deligate for Dr. Paul can go to the convention and cast thier vote for Dr. Paul, now think about what i just said : Do you think for one second that all the people that voted for Dr. Paul and filed to become a deligate will not show up at the convention to vote for the good Doctor? Of course they will just like they battled the rain and the sleet and the 15 below zero winter weather to knock on doors and wave signs spreading our message.
Now i assure you that even though we didn't win the popular vote in many states WE DID PICK UP THE MAJORITY OF DELEGATES THAN ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES IN MOST EVERY STATE EXCEPT A FEW. So yes they won the straw poll and we won what counts which is delegates.
Doesn't Dr. Paul need to WIN 5 states to be on the ballot at the convention for the nomination?
NO THIS IS NOT TRUE for people were just confused on how it actually works.
We only need the majority of delegates from 5 states to be put on the ballot NOT THE POPULAR VOTE OF 5 STATES and i assure you we have picked up the majority of uncommitted delegates for Dr. Paul in more than 5 states.
Do any of you remember seeing posts by myself and many others that said BECOME A DELEGATE? There is still time in most states to become a delegate for the convention and we are picking up more of them every day.
So please STOP! you worry too much because you do not understand how the election system works and you thought we lost didn't you? I assure you we have not!
The fact is Dr. Paul is a genius in his strategy and we are further ahead in delegates than you think and we can win the nomination.
I hope this gives a better understanding of how we have been winning even though most of you thought we were not.
NOW LET'S KEEP WORKING FILE TODAY AND BECOME A DELEGATE BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!
Info on how to become a delegate here :
http://www3.webng.com/ron...
Dr. Steve Parent
State Coordinators
should be contacting us -- isn't that part of their jobs?
We've been here and on other forums for weeks (months). They know where to find us. If Texas or some other state needs delegates, why not recruit? I'd like to know where there is a need.
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Good luck to us all,
Lisa C.
www.women4ronpaul.com
Delegate Process?
The way things have gone, the nomination will be well sealed up before the convention. The wishes of a brokered convention died with Romney's exit. Huckabee will throw in at the last moment making it official.
This thread is all over it.
This thread is all over it. http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Brokered or not?
The post you linked to:
"BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT. This will be a brokered convention there is no way around it. Do you see how the ronpaul campaign strategy will work."
vs.
Friday's e-mail from "Ron Paul"
"With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero."
The chances for a brokered
The chances for a brokered convention seem to be increasing, not decreasing.
great.
great.
You're wrong. RINO's will
You're wrong. RINO's will flock to Huckabee in an Anti-McCain vote. This will keep McCain from getting the outright nomination. Look what happened yesterday. Huckabee won in a 2-1 fashion. It's a brokered convention if it keeps up at that pace. We need to have already flooded the delegate pipeline to be ready for the brokered convention.
no state coordinator, help?
This is my greatest frustration. The person in our meetup who said they would help us has not done so, and Idaho apparently is weird. I have never done more than vote before - can anyone tell me how to get started in Idaho?
I am the Spokane Meetup
I am the Spokane Meetup Organizer and I can say for Fact that the North Idaho group has been doing a lot for Ron Paul. Not to mention some of those commercials Paul paid for in Washington had some crossover in Idaho, as well the our Spokane Group paid for Ron Paul's Spokane Speech to be broadcast on ACN (Christian radio) which has coverage in Oregon and Idaho.
I think Idaho will be okay, as soon as our Primary is over next Tuesday (Feb 19th, 2008) we will be transplanting our planted signs and any left over signs and literature to the North Idaho Group, as well well we will begin to help them with canvassing and phone banking.
Southern Idaho - I have zero knowledge of what's going on down there.
Boise area
appears to have some active Meetup groups. I know one guy posted on here that he had gone to the Cabela's and Sportsman's Warehouse in the Boise area and passed out a bunch of the gunowners slimjims.
http://www.idsos.state.id...
http://www.idsos.state.id... Give them a call and ask. Please start training others if there isn't already a coordinator for Idaho. http://www.ronpaul2008.co...
be a ...
delegate!
Forget what the OM say
Delegates will decide who will be the next president of the United States.
Spread the word. I am.
"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius
Ok, I do not fully understand this delegate thing.
I am in Illinois. We had our primary on Feb 5th. McCain took Illinois by a storm. I recently asked a fellow meet up group member about if I should now, even though rather late, if I should now finally become a delegate through the precinct leader program. He told me, "we have all the delegates we need - we have a full slate."
I do not know exactly what that meant, but I would like to ask anyone else if they understand it. Is there really a need for me to become a delegate here in Illinois or am I unable to do so based upon what he told me? Somebody please explain.
Go to your convention anyway
Go to your convention no matter what. Even if you were told they have a full slate maybe someone doesn't show. Also alternates are cruicial to have at the state convention. And finally, and I don't know all the Illinois rules, many states select delegates by a vote of all attendees at the convention. So you could still vote for the slate.
Everyone needs to go to their conventions even if they don't plan on being delegates.
It depends on each state how
It depends on each state how their delegates are elected. http://www.ronpaul2008.co... Look up your state and contact your coordinator. Some states require the delegates to get petition signatures. My state has an election process that people who know about it show up and vote for the delegates. What ever the method it's our #1 priority. All we need is 50% plus 1 person at national to win the nomination.
I would love to...
...but active duty military are barred from participating at that level of political activity. :(
The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!
What a joke!
They tell you to fight and die for our country and then say "But you have no right in deciding what you fight or die for!" This is why we need Ron Paul more than ever!!!
Not many things make sense anymore.
To be clear, I don't know if there are any local, state or other such laws against it...it is the military that bars us from participating. We all got a large email last month spelling out what we can and cannot do. Of course, one of things we aren't supposed to do is politick at work...but try to stop a group of people from discussing politics. The most gratifying thing is hearing former Romney or Giuliani supporters now saying " I hate to admit it, but Paul is looking better and better to me." I don't say that I told them so, although it is very tempting. I still go on my "electability" rant though. I tell people how silly it is to give up your voting your conscience in a primary. It is the only real chance you have to make your vote count...although, given the circumstances and shenanigans during these primaries and caucases whose votes really counted?
The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!
Is that true? Does the
Is that true? Does the military prevent you from being a delegate?
Unfortunately...
...yes. We cannot attend events in uniform, we aren't supposed to buy materials for a candidate and distribute them, we aren't supposed to canvass, etc etc etc. I got around the not buying and distributing materials bit by printing my own...and I might have even canvassed. We cannot become delegates, which really sucked. I found this out about a month and a half ago. There was a mass email where I work telling us the regulations. I had just started thinking about becoming a delegate.
The Retrocon
Hope for America, Ron Paul for President in 2008!
There are a group of us in PA
sending our petitions to Harrisburg. We have 3 delegates and three alternates to elect in our district 3 in PA. We will see where names will be placed on the ballot and work very hard for the top three!
I even ran into our state's Senator and asked him to sign my petition! He said he already signed three (one of which was his own) and then said, "what, do we have 8 people running now?" I just chuckled to myself - at least 8!!!!
The district's state representative was at same meeting, walked me to the door, and said she had many friends and family that would vote for me!
State requires 250 valid signatures to be placed on the ballot. i visualized 301 for a safety net. I got 274 right now myself, and others are still circulating petitions as we speak! Will likely be 350 total! No room for errors!!!
This is how we win the whole
This is how we win the whole thing.