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** NEW REVISED POLL to select DC march dates - Please vote ***
Posted February 12th, 2008 by OrlandoJim
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NEW EDIT 2/12 7:30 PM - Poll RESTARTED - MORE DATES ADDED
PLEASE RE-VOTE no matter what you did before.
I decided to re-start to make it fair for everyone, and will post a new topic to the board. Let this one slide, but link revised to point to new poll.
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Screw Your Dipshit Poll Ron Paul Said On Radio Today............
July 4th or Memorial Day Take your pick between the 2 and lets quit screwing around with this.
Only one thing to say
http://www.annhudspeth.co...
That, and maybe go look at the video again.
He did not say this! Stop
He did not say this! Stop putting words in his mouth! Alex Jones said it, not Ron Paul!
Watch Ron's video again, he clearly states, "I'm not talking 6 months or a year here."
July 4th is a zoo in Washington, D.C. We could get a million people to show and we'd be drowned out by the festivities.
It's not a practical date...it's too late, 5 months may as well be 6, the last primary is June 3rd!
Holidays are NOT good. People have vacations planned and families make arrangements to be with one another on Memorial Day and July 4th.
They are not practical dates...they are too far away, and our voices will be diminished in Washington, D.C. if we are amongst hundreds of thousands of people out to enjoy the day...Memorial Day is a Monday, and people have to work on Tuesday. Alot of people don't even get Memorial Day off. July 4th is out of the question, it's pie in the sky politics.
Hey Now Settle Down Man
Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, But What Your Country Is Doing To You.
The Only Thing We Have To Fear, Is Government Itself.
Poll seems Hokey!
The poll does not even list either of the two dates I understand Ron Paul himself suggested. Both sounded reasonable.
Shouldn't Paul and his closest advisers choose the dates for our selection? They should have better marketing knowledge, as well as busy schedules to consider as well.
Sorry, but...
1. He didn't set dates, and left it to us to choose
2. Both those weekends are HORRIBLE in DC already, and would totally dilute our impact, which IS what he said was most important.
Did you Vote???
Give It A Rest
how about Dec 31
I like April 19TH!
The start of a new Revolution
This must be on the weekend when people are off from work
so that more people can attend. We must make it as easy for everybody as we can. Ron said not to wait too long and June is way too long from now. So around April would be best. Maybe May. But no later. It won't be too cold or too hot around that time. Also Donate to the campaign NOW!
How do we start and where do we start the March? I guess the different meetup groups can charter buses for their groups etc...
I think June 21st would be
I think June 21st would be okay, it is a Saturday but it's AFTER the final primary on June 3rd.
That's the only negative to this date.
I think April 19th gives us plenty of time to organize.
I fear by late June it will be too late, but if Huckabee keeps whooping McCain's ass it might not be too late.
June 21st also has historical value, but not like April 19th.
I have no problem with that
If Ron Paul says it it is so. I will be there with bells on. Thats all I needed to hear.Thank you.
The date is set by Paul himself
4th of July
Be in DC on the 4th or be the establishment slaves.
March on DC for Paul on the 4th of July, spread it around.
http://www.youtube.com/wa...
I think it should actually run from April 15th to April 19th.
The Rally should be on the 18th.
hear me out Everyone that lives two days away leaves on the 15th of April. We start this migration to DC with tax day the day that every person in this country gets robbed. This will start the movement of people to DC we drive for two days others can fly in when they wish. We hold the rally on the 18th its a friday It is a business day so our voice will be heard. On friday at midnight we have a Paul Revere cerimony to bring the Rally to a close and the next morning On April 19th We all exit DC and go back to our villages to revive the Revolution and take the message back to our cities to the warning of the coming threat of tyrrany. April 19th is a very important day in our history and it goes perfect with this movement.
The American Revolution Began
April 19, 1775
Have you heard Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's poem "Paul Revere's Ride"?
One if by land, two if by sea;
And I on the opposite shore will be,
Ready to ride and spread the alarm
Through every Middlesex, village and farm,
For the country folk to be up and to arm.
After looking for the signal (one lantern if the regulars - the term used for invading British soldiers - were coming by land, or two if they were coming by sea) in the Christ Church steeple, Paul Revere and other Americans rode through the dark of the night on the eve of April 19,1775, to warn the country folk of the danger to come. By using a system of signals and word-of-mouth communication (the telephone hadn't been invented yet), news that the regulars had arrived spread quickly. At Lexington Green, the regulars were met by 77 American minutemen (named "minutemen" because they could be ready for battle in a minute), and, at Concord, the regulars were forced to march back to Boston with the Americans firing on them all the way. This was the beginning of the American Revolution.
This gives everyone within two days 2 days drive to Rally Rally on the 18th and two day drive home.
April 19th also Waco & Oklahoma City Bombing
I think you're right on. I would vote for those days.
Remember that April 19 was also the Waco incident that showed a lot of people how evil and corrupt our government actually is. The Oklahoma City bombing was timed for the same day to make a point, so I don't know how that would be construed by the media.
Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, But What Your Country Is Doing To You.
The Only Thing We Have To Fear, Is Government Itself.
Asking people to sacrifice 5
Asking people to sacrifice 5 days is a bit much.
April 15th through the 19th would be ideal, but it's not practical
I think the 19th is practical, and within what Ron said himself, "I'm not talking six months or a year."
He also mentioned July 4th
He also mentioned July 4th on the radio today.
The logistics of having this in April makes it impossible. Anyone that says otherwise has never worked in group logistics or supply.
Now, if people want to march on Washington, all spontaneous and have no toilets, no water and no organization, that can be arranged. Have the March in April.
"The revolution doesn't use port-a-pottys, the revolution will shit in the streets!"
June 7th.
June 7th.
This will be after the release of Dr. Paul's new book (April), and I believe this book will give us widespread momentum going into the march in DC.
He just said it!!!!! "IM
He just said it!!!!! "IM NOT TALKING ABOUT SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR"
WELL if that's the case
July 4th is 5 months away! It may as well be six months, which is exactly what Ron said NOT to wait for.
The $10 Millon March on Washington
Whatever the date may be, I will be there, with my girlfriend and at least 2 of our friends, and maybe my brother. But...I think we need a MoneyBomb
that is not disarmed before the march. We need morale. Ron Paul needs money. The MoneyBomb solves both. We need to unite our power with our presence. Donate and March. Set the date, send the money.
Bring Ron Paul Back !
May 11th... isn't that the
May 11th... isn't that the day RealID becomes law?
http://www.ncsl.org/reali...
Ron Paul 2008!
PLEASE ADD APRIL 19 TO THE POLL!!!
several people have asked you nicely several times now
Done
I added it, and if you voted previously for none because you wanted April 19, please re-vote
You should reset the poll to
You should reset the poll to zero and start over again with April 19th included.
I think that would be most fair.
Thank you
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461 votes and counting - have you expressed your preference??
Just to reiterate - "something somebody said they heard on AJ's show" is no way to make this decision. And until Dr. Paul posts an official release from HQ announcing July 4, we MUST assume it is not a workable date - too much already going on in DC and too easy to be lost in the holiday crowd of red, white, and blue flag waving sheeple.
I voted. I didn't choose any of the dates.
If Dr. Paul suggested July 4, I think that's what we should plan for.
July 4 is a Friday and it would allow for the trip and march to happen over a long weekend.
Nice day
But I think that may be too late. RP said within 3-4 months. I wouldn't want to disobey an order. Especially from Ron Paul :)
Nobody will go on a weekday
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
A very simple, and well made
A very simple, and well made point. Thank you, nathalja
Monday through Friday suck for the majority of working Americans. That's why we call it "the work week."
Please add April 19th. A lot
Please add April 19th. A lot of your dates are too late to help Ron Paul in states that still have primaries. Like my state of NM.
Trade with all nations; alliances with none. ~Thomas Jefferson
Ron Paul suggests July 4th
Apparently Ron Paul suggested July 4th on the Alex Jones Show today....
Ron made a suggestion...he
Ron made a suggestion...he is not the Revolution, we are.
I also do not think Ron was taking the summer heat into consideration.
It can be absolutely brutal in DC come July. If millions show, hundreds or even thousands could risk heat stroke, dehydration, etc.
April 19th is a safer bet for weather. It should be beautiful in DC for springtime.
July 4th is a holiday weekend - the message and the march will get lost in the sauce. People will see us marching and assume it's something patriotic. It is not our day. The 4th is a day to remember our independence, and it is a day for our families, friends, backyard bbq's, fireworks, beer and food. The 4th is not OUR day....we'll get lost in the sauce if we do this over a holiday weekend.
Jefferson's Birthday/Tax Day--Sunday, April 13
Let's keep this march on a weekend day so that those of us with kids in school, along with those of us who can't easily miss work, can attend.
Thomas Jefferson's birthday is April 13. Taxes are due on April 15.
Why not select Sunday, April 13 to highlight both our hero and our nemesis?
"A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government." --Thomas Jefferson
I AGREEEEE!!!
Please take THIS poll:
http://www.vizu.com/poll-...
it is to gauge who will actually go.
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
The 13th of April is on a
The 13th of April is on a Sunday...leaving me no room to get back for work on Monday.
I run my own business, and cannot take "vacation" time.
Most people have Saturday and Sunday off.
Saturday, April 19th would be perfect for the most people - and that's the goal.
People can leave Friday after they get out of work, arrive in Washington D.C. on Saturday, leave Saturday night or early Sunday and get back in time for work on Monday.
That is practical. April 19th is the date of the 233rd anniversary of the original American Revolution. FDR took America off the gold standard on April 19th. It is OUR day. It won't be too hot, like it will be in July. April 19th is right before the remainder of the primary and caucus races!
There is no more fitting day for the Revolution to march on Washington, D.C. than Saturday, April 19th 2008.
Take this poll. I updated the post to be Sat or Sun
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
I may be a vegetarian, but I'll defend to the death my right to eat pork!
March on D.C.
June is to late must be sooner. April best.
Keep in mind too...
I only saw one date on there that would interfere with school for those of us that have kids in school. I think we should make sure we pick a date that can include as many people as possible. But another thing, is Ron Paul leaving it up to us for the date? I am wondering if he will propose a date? Does anyone have an "in" with headquarters to find out if he had a date in mind?
Thanks!
Please add April 19th to the poll
I think April 19th gives us the best shot to really make a difference in the election. I fear that anything after June 3rd - the final primary - will not matter. The primary/caucuses will be over after June 3rd.
April 19th is the original date of the American Revolution.
It is OUR DAY. It's also the anniversary date of when FDR forced America off the gold standard. How fitting.
April 19th is on a Saturday, more than 2 months away. This gives us plenty of time to organize. A Saturday also provides for enough time for people to travel...get out of work Friday, arrive in Washington on Saturday, leave Sunday and get home in time for work on Monday.
Memorial Day is not good because it is its own day...not ours. There will be other events going on that day to pay respect to our dead. It is on a Monday, many people do not get off for this holiday, and most people have to work on Tuesday.
If you want large numbers, a Saturday is ideal - and NOT over a holiday weekend. People have already planned family trips and vacations for Memorial Day. There are too many things going on that weekend, and I fear our message would get lost in the sauce.
I personally know a lot of
I personally know a lot of people who would miss out if it was on Saturday. I really want to go also, but Saturday is my Sabbath and will not be able to make it then. :o( I have requested on a couple of threads for people to consider this.
Although I really want to go, and I know I could get a lot of people to go...I do understand that we are a minority when you talk of the movement as a whole and I know we need to do what is best for all... but please consider this when planning... pleeeze!!
Not trying to start a religious discussion or anything either....
We must allow time to contact all the many groups
who will march with us. Constitution party, Libertarian party, Right to Life, 2nd Amendment, Conservatives declaring independence from the Republican party, and many more.
That's why we need April 15th
A lot of planning and spreading word has already gone into April 15th...I actually received an international letter asking me to help spread April 15th to help make this a global stand.
MANY countries plan to stand w/ us on April 15th. All we would have to do is change the location to Washington.
It's going to be a hardship to get to/from Washington no matter when we choose...at least people are already prepearing for an April 15th STAND, which in it's very nature contains some hardship. We are already preparing for April 15th...please help support it. Here is a list of reasons why.
Why April 15:
1. We NEED people to realize the tax/federal reserve problem. That is why the stand on April 15th was created.
2. We NEED people to remember our stand against the unlawful taxation and the evils of the Federal Reserve...seriously. We NEED that in the history books. We NEED people to remember the huge taxation and the
economic instability from the Federal Reserve.
3. We are already working on a MASSIVE international strike/march for April 15th. (In fact, I received an international email pushing for April 15th this morning....SEVERAL countries are already planning events around April 15th and request that we have our major stand on that day so that it lines up w/ their stand so it can be WORLDWIDE!!!)
4. April 15th is before at least 8 states vote!!
5. It is neither too soon nor too far out (enough time to make travel plans, but not enough for the energy to peter-out)
6. We already have the websites setup to take pledges.
LibertyTax08.com and RonPaulMarch.com
5. We already have videos, emails, and other things surrounding a BIG stand on April 15th...all we would have to do is move it to Washington.
6. People already plan to miss work.
7. We already have international support for April 15th...
8. People driving from the West Coast can drive all weekend and make
it to the march on time.
9. Having it on a day that government officials work (instead of a weekend or holiday) is important.
10. Cheaper airfair on weekdays than weekeneds.
11. It's not a holiday, so people won't be busy.
12. The meadia will either cover us or the lines at the Post Office...seriously, we have a chance to grab media attention BEFORE the states are finished voting!
13. It won't be TOO hot, especially for those of us not used to DC-type heat. (summer=a lot of people w/ heat exhaustion...April 15th is late enouh we won't freeze, but early enough the sun won't cook us)
14. People will be getting their Theft Day refund...to use towards funding an anti-Theft rally!
15. It will keep people more tightly focused because we all know this event, and it can/will be used to advance using loosely related agendas.
See thread "why April 15th"
June 7th is a huge day in history,
In August, 1774, Lee was chosen as a delegate to the first Continental Congress in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. In 1775 he became a Colonel of militia in Westmoreland County. In Lee's Resolution on the 7th of June 1776, Lee put forth the motion to the Continental Congress to declare Independence from England. which read (in part): "Resolved: That these United Colonies are, and of right ought to be, free and independent States, that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain is, and ought to be, totally dissolved." Due to Lee's absence from the Congress because of his wife's illness, Thomas Jefferson was to write the Declaration. In 1772 he was elected to head Virginia for voting on American Independenace.
It has to be a weekday
It has to be a weekday. That's when the politicians are in town. They go away on the weekends.
The HQ really needs to step up here. I cannot believe Dr. Paul intended to just throw the idea out and leave it at that. He will at least have to approve the date, so he needs to just pick it. CALLING DR. PAUL.
The Paulites are coming!
I like April 19th. It's a Saturday, so a lot of college kids can still make it. It's better that tax day, because our Revolution is about much more than taxes. And, it's just enough time to plan, but not too far in the future. It's just enough time for the enthusiasm for this march to peak.
this needs to be bumped often
help keep this at the top so everyone can vote
Here is a nolan chart article supporting June 21st
http://www.nolanchart.com...
Here is one more reason July 4th, and Memorial Day are not good days for the rally, in my opinion. Family gatherings. The great majority of people have family get togethers on those dates, and people will feel torn between family and the rally.
June 21
still leading, but 4/15 gaining ground. Personally, I think summer is better and either June or July work for most people.
It must be on a weekend
Attendance will be substantially higher on a weekend.
Agreed... but
Congress being in session and workers being at the Fed and other offices would make a weekday more impactful, not to mention disruption of traffic and notice on evening news.