Obama is CFR, FreeMason, Illuminati !!
Posted February 14th, 2008 by mike48723
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Well duh
Why do you suppose he gets so much media attention? The way to identify the best candidates is to acknowledge the ones being ignored, marginalized and ridiculed.
Don't Fall Victim To CFR Disinformation - Many Of You Have
Obama is probably in the CFR, if he isn't he soon will be. But as far as
Illuminati goes, its a bunch of goofballs that have very little if any influance on any group or Government. And, I doubt very much if he is in-deed a Freemason.
Most all of the comments on this page are laughable. Most of you have absolutely know idea what you are talking about when it comes to the Freemason and it is obvious that you have fallen to CFR disinformation. The CFR see's the Freemasons as a threat and would love to close down all of the Masonic Lodges.
The roots of the Freemasons go back not to 1717 London, England as some would want you to believe but to the beginning of recorded history. The were skilled craftsmen and had a particular ability to construct large complicated structures. During the times of slave labor all of the various Empires wanted to make special agreements with this "Free-mason" trade union group that was known by many names. These agreements allowed them to be consider "Free-men", to be free to believe in which ever God that they wish, to be free of taxation, free to set their own hours, free to bring their families with them, free to cross borders, free from attack and they were greatly compensated for their work if they agreed to construct the various buildings, churches, roads, castles, forts, war machines, colisiums and other. All of the great armies hired a portion of them to follow along as protected craftsmen to construct bridges, dams, buildings and war machines. This one and only trade union encompassed a number of those craftsmen that had special skills working particularily with stone, metal and wood. The main reason that it was secretive was because of their many trade secrets that they wanted to protect, such as what was refer to then and now as "sacred geometry" and the invention of cement. You must realize that over 90% of the Worlds population was totally uneducated. Even today, builders have know idea how they were able to build a number of these special structures. These secrets were held by this trade union knowing that if they were given to the general population they might very well loss much of their hard fought freedom. So they guarded these secrets with their lives. It is said by a number of historians that evidence now is beginning to show that the carpenter Jesus and his carpenter Father Joseph were very possibly both members of this same trade union. Obvious, it makes since because they were always in demand and made excellent wages. Which by the way, was the very first known trade union in the World. Many of these same historians point to the fact that the story about Jesus dying at the age of 33 years is really about him dying to the person he was to be reborn or crossing over to become a new, more enlightened person or member of this group is straight out of the ancient 33 degree Masonic rituals that came directly from the ancient mystery schools of Egypt. Historians now seem to think that most all of the great wonders of the Ancient World now appear to have been built by this same Freemason trade union but under a different name. Through all of this history one needs to realize that in every country of the World the Church and the State were always one in the same. So therefore, no one was really free except for the Freemasons who maintained this special authority and freedom to allow every member to believe in whatever God they wished and to not be bothered by the state. Then one day they brought this radical concept to a new land far away in hopes that some day it's government would continue the same separation of church and state principle that they had enjoyed for so long and that this land would be known as America, land of the free. And, then their French Masonic Brothern constructed and gave to America a symbol of this long fought freedom, the Satue of Liberty.
The ranks of Masonry have been filled with many famous individuals such as: John Wayne, Bob Hope, John Paul Jones, General Douglas Mc Arthur, John Hancock, Davy Crockett, William "Wild Bill" Cody, Sam Houston, Paul Harvey, Barry Goldwater, Sr., W.C. Fields, Oliver Hardy, Red Skelton, Bart Starr, Arnold Palmer, Walt Disney, Clark Gable, General Doolittle, George M Cohan, Francis Scott Key, Charles Lindberg, Henry Ford, Eddie Arnold, Louis Armstrong, Gene Autry, Admiral Byrd, Mozart, Audie Murphy, President Andy Jackson, George Washington, Teddy Roosevelt, James Bowie, Colonel William Travis, Roy Rogers, Ben Franklin, Gen Hap Arnold, Stephen Austin, Irving Berlin, Glenn Miller, Gen. Omar Bradley, just to name a few.
Agreed, I don't buy the
Agreed, I don't buy the Freemason Illuminati conspiracy theory, either. One may as well buy into David Ickes' reptilian humanoid theory.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
OK, but Both of the other "mainstream" candidates-
McCain and Rodham-Clinton are CFR elites, too . so has almost every single candidate for President on both sides of the aisle with the exception of Ronald Reagan- and he had a CFR member as a VP.
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Speculation
I would assume to have to disagree with the statment about the Freemasons. Is it not understood that within any organization there will be a number of different views and agendas? People within organizations will have either predetory tendencies or Just tendencies.
If you look at the catholic church there are many members, but it would be unwise to veiw every parishiner as a conpsirator for evil.
Im not denying that within the ranks of Freemasons there are rogue elements pushing there own agendas, but at the sametime to assume the entire body of Freemasons as bad? Well that my friend would be pure speculation.
The Seeds of Truth we Plant today will grow to be the Tree of Freedom tommorow.
Masons are devils
Elitist. Save this argument for you secret handshake buddies. Obviously no non mason would agree with you and any mason HAS to agree with you. I know mason is supposed to be capitalized but I HATE you guys. Satanist
no MASON here
freedumb is not free! I believe him, the boogeyman is not in your closet satinist hardly its based on bettering your religion whatever it may be
NathanHale
of the army of 8?
The Seeds
of Truth we Plant today will grow to be the Tree of Freedom tommorow.
Wow
Obviously, that's individualist thinking if I've ever seen it.
Eric Hoffer
Let it be
Just let it go -- he's obviously not interested in discussion.
I don't think...
I don't think Freemasons really tolerate black people or any race other than Caucasian. Although I just called an old friend whose father is a 33rd Degree member, & I guess they allow a "token" member once in a while.
There are black lodges
Here in Houston there are two black freemason lodges. I personally know 1 member who is black and have seen him with a group of other masonswho are also black. So.. race is no issue. You just have to be willing to keep secrets and participate in it.
they allow them
freedumb is not free! but dont recognize the lodge in the same way
But, but
Obama isn't really black! The Freemasons tolerate anyone who is willing to put the Freemason agenda over their identification with a race.
180 degrees
The wonderful thing is this educational string is on this site.
The horrible thing is this educational string is only on this site.
Ok
Look guys, I can tolerate all this Illuminati and CFR and Buildaburger talk or whatever, but I've about had it with the Mason bashing.
You guys who keep talking about how the Freemasons are evil DO realize how many generals and leaders in the army for the American Revolution actually immigrated to America to SPECIFICALLY fight for our freedom right? We're talking about 30 of the 70 or so general officers in the Continental army.
Do you realize how much our Constitution was shaped by Freemason ideals?
I mean please, read a book or something about our history before spouting this garbage, George Washington was a Freemason, do you really consider him a globalist? Was he the enemy?
Please try not to take your mishmash of conspiracy theories and include that which you don't have any idea about. It's offensive.
Eric Hoffer
Eric - Everything You Say Is Correct
Most of the others on this page appear to be non-thinkers who obviously have bought into CFR disinformation.
I just hope that they are all McStumble-Bum supporters like "Slapshot".
Correct. Disinformation =
Correct. Disinformation = Smokescreen to cover the real facts. That's the trouble with the conspiracy rabbit hole...it's too easy to make "true believers" look ridiculous.
Remember all the conspiratorial hooey about Lee Harvey Oswald and the Manchurian Candidate? Remember when they exhumed his body to "disprove" the story that he had a secret double? All crapola, intended to keep the gulls from looking more closely at the fact that he was a patsy, and that the fatal shots were not fired from the Sixth Floor.
SUPPORT OUR FOUNDERS' AMERICA
Support the Constitution of the United States
Yeah, the masons are after all just pawns of the REAL leaders...
...the Jesuits.
Now YOU do some reading.
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Thankyou!
well said. and short.
It is hilarious when people come in with their 'history' books. You know,the history written by people who want you to know their version of history? And interpret it as such? Cracks me up-hey,the Masons in part wrote our Constitution. And???? That means????
Irony at it's finest.
Question marks
Question marks are in most cases preferable to having a point. They infer the idea that someone's thinking is backward and illogical without ever needing that pesky little imp called "logical refutation."
You forget that your point naturally infers the idea that any recorded history was recorded to be a lie. Your point I'm assuming, is that the only truths can be found in "nonconventional sources." Of course, this begs the question of which sources? How do you validate them? I'm assuming it's a little like the game "Duck Duck Goose," where instead of birds, you're using historical theories, Goosing the slowest most inadequate child in class.
But Lauriem, what's that you say? Can't hear me from all the way up there on your high horse? No time for logic and reasoning, you've got pronouncements to make?
I completely understand, and as such, I'm sure everyone takes what you're saying here in it's complete worth.
Eric Hoffer
Just like sustainable development
sounds like a good thing,and has some merits,Masonry has some principles that may be deemed useful and even good.
However,masonry has been utlized all these years for other purposes,by SOME individuals within it.
Just as every registered dem and repub. have virtually no knowledge of what their parties are really working towards,so it goes with the Masons.
I hesitate to say this,but the fact that our constitution was based on Mason ideals,does not really mean anything.
There are some schools of thought [and in fact evidence to show if you research],that the USA was planned by the Brittish Royals all along-meaning planned that it would both rise and fall. Exactly this way.
And,I'm sure many have come across the info that 'America is a corporation' and that it is still owned by England?
Again,I hesitate to go there,b/c I"m fighting for our Constitution and the principles upon which we were deluded into thinking we were free.
But,if you want to get nitty gritty about Masonry,do some further research.
[links: http://www.serendipity.li...
http://www.irishoriginsof...
http://www.dreamweaver-tu...
masons, illuminati, cfr, bilderburg - all the same
The masons, illuminati, cfr, and bilderburgers are all just different groups with similar goals. Obviously at the lower levels, masons don't necessarily advocate world domination and are more focused on humanitarian things, etc. However the upper levels are very satanic. Granted the masons are probably not as important these days as the bilderburgers or the cfr, but in the past they definitely were.
Here is only one of many websites on the internet exposing the masons. There are thousands.
http://watch.pair.com/mas...
Hi
Look clownshoes, since I don't have all night for this. I'm going to ask real quick which of the upper "satanic" rituals you've ever participated in. If not, I'm going to just assume you're getting it from a geocities page you found where OBVIOUSLY the source is completely irrefutable.
I'm going to take the last paragraph of that page, and just throw it out there.
"Based on this new information, which has been withheld from the Gentile world, it becomes apparent that the Great Seal of the United States reveals in a symbolic code the quest of the Zionist Jews to return to and conquer the Holy Land which God originally gave them, but which they forfeited through their rejection of the true Messiah, Jesus Christ. Moreover, the Great Seal reveals that they are using the United States of America and to reestablish the kingdom of Israel from which their Antichrist, a descendant of King Solomon, will rule the world."
Now, if that doesn't positively DRIP with "Here's my conclusion, let me quick find some points that will allow me to arrive at it" thinking, I don't know what does.
I have YET to hear you explain to me what Masons were doing over here leading the Continental army for our freedom from Britain. I have YET to hear you pronounce George Washington as an evil man bent on one world government in which the "False Messiah" comes to rule the world. And I have YET to see anything bad with the idea of the WASHINGTON MONUMENT having to do with Masonic symbolism, considering Washington being a Mason.
What's that you say? DC holds Masonic influences?! Of course it does! It was designed by, you guessed it, MASONS.
"...There were ultimately five dominant and guiding spirits behind the Constitution - Washington, Franklin, Randolph, Jefferson and John Adams. Of these, the first three were active Freemasons, but men who took their Freemasonry extremely seriously - men who subscribed fervently to its ideals, whose entire orientation had been shaped and conditioned by it. And Adam's position, though he himself is not known to have been a Freemason was virtually identical to theirs. When he became president, moreover, he appointed a prominent Freemason, John Marshall, as first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court." (1)
You did read that part right? You do realize that the influence of individual rights led to the birth of America, and that's a pretty key part of Masonic ideals? This idea that Masons would ever be in favor of a one world government goes completely against what Masonry is about.
Remember, when the Continental Army needed leaders, Freemasons left their land in Europe and came here to fight, based on the idea that freedom of thought and self government are important. The idea that people are able to make their own decisions and don't need a King telling them how to live their lives.
That's a pretty fundamental part of this movement. Respect for the Constitution. Considering the huge influence Freemasons had on the forging of this country, and the number of Freemasons among our Founding Fathers, I really don't understand this collectivist labeling process I see so many engaging in. Just because one group exists and is fighting for globalism in which they control everything, that makes it CERTAIN that all the other groups I don't know anything about are doing the same thing right!
Like you're some behind the scenes analyst of powerbroking, "However the upper levels are very satanic. Granted the masons are probably not as important these days as the bilderburgers or the cfr, but in the past they definitely were."
Don't you have Dan Brown novels to be dusting? Look pal, talking about shadowy groups of people does not make you powerful or mysterious or an expert or a producer. Do you understand how many Freemasons support Ron Paul on the basis of his ideas and dedication to the Constitution? Do you understand how in line Paul is with Masonic thought? Do you understand how foolish you look when you go about damning a huge voting block you know nothing about?
Think before you go just splashing the conspiracy of the week around like it's fact.
Eric Hoffer
Eric Hoffer
Wonderful Comment
You spelled out for them.
I think
I think the reason people are against masons is that it is preaching "another gospel" (Gal 1:6).
They are preaching alot of good works to earn their way to heaven. ie The white leather apron is their righteousness. Eph 2:8-9 "not of works"
And if a mason stands before The Great White Throne Judgment, there is no hope for them, for the Great White Throne is FOR the LOST...
So the great architect masons pray to, is not the Lord Jesus Christ.
But the great architect is a powerfull and wise god.
Think before you go just splashing the conspiracy of the week ar
I dont think that is what he was doing.
These topics cannot be 'explained' away in a DP thread.
But if you do your homework,you will find much truth in the role free masons have played within world history both for better and worse.
Have you ever seen the Constitution live nad in person,by the way? The real one? Perhaps you have seen the one in the case,that they told you was the real one,right? Or not even that.
In any case,how do you 'know' it's real?
B/C your entire reality has been based upon being told that it is?
Or,because after research and careful consideration of multiple historical sources,you have decided that yes,it is real. And,yes,Masons were partially responsible/heavily a part of it's architecture?
One need not have participated in something to know that it exists historically or at present.
That is just silly. You'd have to throw away about every single piece of information you have in your own brain,my friend. Except maybe what you had for dinner and what color your shirt is.
People get SO charged by any negative talk of Masons. Now,THAT is crazy,if you ask me.
Point being
My point is made against the idea of pulling a conspiracy theory out of the middle of nowhere and using it as the blunt club of fallacy to smash and bash whatever folk please. I don't think people realize how many Masons read this, sigh quietly, and go on about their work getting Paul elected.
We can argue back and forth subjective reality, but sooner or later we hit Godwin's Law and we're all in trouble.
You can't lap up everything on the internet as fact, and wading through the various conspiracy theories will take so much of your time that you never get anything useful done.
Know what's more frightening to me than The Illuminati? That people don't know how many Amendments are in the Bill of Rights or what they are. The problem isn't with the various shadow governments or whatever, but with entertainment and attention span. Government isn't that entertaining, so people start accepting these wild truths as fact, then noticing that it makes everything so much more interesting, that they're actually interested suddenly in politics.
More power to you, whatever gets you in the game, but don't go blaming the problems of the government on any shadow name you can think of.
Mental absenteeism and an uncaring attitude are what have let the globalist feely people take power. Not Freemasons, not Illuminati, not Bilderburgers, not TriLaterals, not the DeltaForce, not the Atlantians, not the Lemurians, not the Alchemists, not the Wiccans.
Pure disinterest and inability to focus on what's important long term for our country, that's what is the fault here. Not teaching our children to be active, not speaking up when the federal government got into schools. Saying "Sure!" when the government offers to take care of us. That's what got us where we are. Not some Royal Scottish preplanned event. Not Nostradaemus, not Edgar Caycee, not Buddha, but purely Americans not caring and allowing their inferiors to rule them.
Were Masons responsible for some good? You bet. Were they responsible for some bad? You bet.
Does this collectivist attitude being ascribed to Freemasons get Dr. Paul's campaign anywhere? Nope. Does it enlighten people to the "truth?" Not so much. Does it serve any purpose whatsoever except to play off of social responses and to build rapport with other disenfranchised conspiracy mongers in an effort to seem knowledgeable and be respected? Well, it takes up bandwith, but other than that? Not so much.
Lets focus here folks. Please keep the Mason bashing to a minumum, especiall remembering that Masons, more than any group I've seen, vote and pay attention to what's going on in politics. They never always agree, they never always vote the same way, but they always vote. Lets try and not drive those votes away.
Eric Hoffer
Hey, your littering the streets.......
With the music mans ass!
Nice job.
The Masons have done more than their fair share!
The CFR an Buildabergers, they need to die. Where's the skin heads when we need them?
Amen
I know masons that love RP after hearing what he stands for.
Does anyone really read?
on the DP?
OK,so yes,there will be masons who love RP. Again,the rank and file of any organization largely are unaware of the upper ranks. See link below for 'organization within an organization'.
If you really want to do your homework on this,people:
www.jordanmaxwell.com For your 'phd' in all of this info.
right on lauriem
I' ve come to the same conclusions...putting all the pieces together...good work. Knowledge is power!!
Peace and light
Jordan Maxwell is an outstanding citizen
"According to the Memorandum Opinion in Support of Order, under section II entitled FACTS, both Jordan Maxwell and Vic Varjabedian, from about December 1999 to January 2003 "conducted a nationwide scheme to defraud customers using an internet website and in-bound telemarketing calls. The defendants maintained this website, http://www.bbcoa.com/, where they sold fake international driver's permits, bogus credit repair services, and sham debt termination programs. Varjabedian directed, controlled, and participated in the acts and practices of BBCOA."
Yep, now THERE'S a man you can admire and trust.
Anyone else?
Eric Hoffer
Duh!
!!!
check this link if Christian
http://www.cuttingedge.or...
I was going to make this point but your link says it all - thank
I was going to make this point but your link says it all - thank you.
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How Dangerous is Obama?
How Dangerous is Obama?
This article proves that he's merely a tool for the world government and promoter of a tax to be paid to the UN to fuel its totalitarian control over us and to redistribute the wealth to other countries. I don't care what clubs he belongs to, LOOK BEHIND THE CURTAIN at what he is doing!
"A nice-sounding bill called the "Global Poverty Act," sponsored by Democratic presidential candidate and Senator Barack Obama, is up for a Senate vote on Thursday and could result in the imposition of a global tax on the United States. The bill, which has the support of many liberal religious groups, makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations."
"The bill defines the term "Millennium Development Goals" as the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000)."
"In addition to seeking to eradicate poverty, that declaration commits nations to banning "small arms and light weapons" and ratifying a series of treaties, including the International Criminal Court Treaty, the Kyoto Protocol (global warming treaty), the Convention on Biological Diversity, the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child."
An Obama presidency would be racist and a disaster for the USA.
In one of Obama's campaign offices, there is even a flag with a picture of a murderous Marxist dictator on it!
Read the rest here: http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/ckincaid/2008/ck_02131.shtml
Obama & McCain
And Obama cosponsored a bill with McCain -- the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act of 2005 -- that contained a provision giving insurance companies the right to help devise a plan for extending US health care to Mexico (Sec. 1004. BINATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH INFRASTRUCTURE AND HEALTH INSURANCE).
For Liberty!
good post jane
All candidates except Ron Paul work for a higher power NOT the american people. Please friends research until the pieces of the puzzle fit together. The truth will set you free. It is crucial to spread this message or we and our children will be enslaved in a global tyranny. We have the power to change that through the collective mind. We must change ourselves and look within. This changes the outside. The evil we see is a reflection of us collectively. We must start thinking with our heart.
Peace and light
A typical republican dirty spin.
Obama is a patriotic American.
What the Hell? Sharp 19
I'm sure the Founders would love socialized Medicine, and they wanted the Gov. to take care of us too. But that may have been in the History book you read. If not then you are just a complete dumbass. But I'll try to blame it on your parents and teachers, not just you.
Sarcasm on?
/sarcasm
check this only for christians
http://www.ephesians5-11....
Thank you for that link.
*** God bless Ron Paul ***
* Ron Paul For President *
With the choices left
Well were all screwed if either Obama, McCain, Huckabee, or Clinton get in. So just prepare yourself for the worst, pray, and have faith in God.
Last chance= RP2008
And I forgot....
.....LOVE the rense link. Nothing says "credibility" like rense.com.
Tin Foil Hats
Hmmm...should have put on my tin foil hat before stepping into this thread.
Hey guys, I hope the Bilderbergers and the Rockefellers in Bohemian Grove aren't causing too much trouble, what with the black helicopter toting FEMA-fascist allies in the CFR and the Illuminati in play. With luck the aliens from Area 51 and the Loch Ness monster will team up to tell the truth about the PNAC conspiracy behind 9/11. Godspeed, brave truth-seekers.
I guess the media censoring
I guess the media censoring RP must be a conspiracy theory too.
Nice trolling my friend..
Nice trolling my friend.. +1.
The Real Trolls
This thread is trolling. Posting from rense is trolling. If you have evidence, actual evidence, of conspiracy, then we can talk. But until then, it's troll bullshit.