Another school shooting
in Illinois (Northern Illinois University). This is insane. I have a feeling that the attack on the 2nd amendment is going to grow significantly. Please note, I am NOT claiming these shootings are organized or related to defeat the 2nd amendment.
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too bad
It is sad that the companys that are making prozac and the other antidepressants are destroying our minds.
If anyone is on an anti depressant they need to find a doctor to help faze them slowly off of them so as not to cause any other suicides, of killings.
Those anti depressants are dangeous.
To learn more read "Prozac Panacea or Paranoia" By Dr. Ann Tracy.
I live in the state where more people are taking drugs prescribed by doctors than any other state per capita. Utah I guess living in Utah drives people to be depressed.
I support Ron Paul and even the media blackout will not depress me enough to take drugs.
Read that book and you will the anti depressant culture and the damage it is doing by taking those pills. People have things that make them depressed but this is ridiculous. The body is not drug deficient mineral deficient maybe. Go Ron Paul and may the Ron Paul Supporters cause all of the neocons to be depressed. Another good book is "Dead Doctors Don't Lie"
By Dr. Joel Wallach go to www.americanyoungevity.co...
Yes the Meds, hmmm
Why are people on drugs? You have drug companies lobbying politicians to get these drugs approved and drug companies paying lots of money to doctors to prescribe them.
There are so many natural remedies that cure things. I just don’t get the drug thing, maybe in a life or death situation. People need to change their lifestyle – diet - exercise - to be healthy. Everyone should read Kevin Trudeau’s books Natural Cures and More Natural Cures, very good and informative.
I don’t like doctors or drugs of any kind … and I love it when I hear an ad say take this for diarrhea but the side effects are heart attack, stroke and suicide, or something like that, lol.
I’d rather eat rice and bananas and not die thank you very much :)
arm everyone
people with bad tempers will have a lot more self control this way
He was off his meds
I predict that this will lead to a law where anyone who has been perscribed certain pyschotropic drugs, will not be allowed to own weapons. This will include ritalin, which will become even more commonly perscribed.
Of course, we will never know what the outcome would have been had he not been perscribed meds. I'm anxious to hear which medications these are.
Yeah, I'm anxious too.
But from VA Tech's shooting. Unless I'm mistaken, we don't know what drug(s), or what doc(s?) or what dosages or what pharmacies. 100% of the specific coverage has been on the type, brand, caliber, evil-ness, etc. of the firearms involved, along with where, when, and how they were obtained...Same for now. Expect NOT to hear this stuff from the media, again. The bias is amazing...
JMR
Look up the Veterans
Look up the Veterans Disarmament Act. They are already doing this with the military so I'm pretty sure they also have their sights on the civilian population to.
This is
Crazy
Interesting thought
Maybe that is why these drugs are basically rubber stamped by doctors these days.
Shooting timeline
4:00 - police respond to shots fired
4:07 - campus in lock-down
Seven minutes? That is really impressive. Didn't it take HOURS to lock-down Virginia Tech?
Impressive, indeed!!!
Their explanation is that they had "improved security measures" after the Virginia Tech incident....
Shut up you 2 retards.
Quit trolling our board!
"Shut up" "Quit" Telling
"Shut up"
"Quit"
Telling others what to do eh? You might be at the wrong forum noob.
LOL!!
I was just going to add that perhaps one voting for a Pro-Constitution candidate would be well served to actually read the document....
:D
Thanks for
the support
So now
we are not allowed to present information. If you paid any attention, you would realize that people actually care about this issue. But of course, only your agenda matters.
"retard"??
That's not politically correct. Shame on you.
;)
In point of fact, I am NOT a retard. I'm impressed that the police made it to the scene that quickly.......yeah, that's it......
Jungian Collective Psychology
Jung had an interesting idea that somehow we all have notions of how things should be (exactly how, Jung could not explain).
That is we all have "archetypes" in our mind. We think of leaders and castles looking and being a certain way.
Other psychologists and parapsychologists have expanded that we may somehow be linked together (theories ranging from a sixth sense to an inherit response to certain cues).
The point is: Maybe things are getting really really bad and people are starting to feel threatened and having a violent reaction. That somehow, more and more people are getting the perception that something is wrong and they feel the need to start shooting people.
Christ, there has been about a rampage a week for the past six months.
Maybe something is really, really wrong and we are collectively and unconsciously realize it.
Talk about TRIPPY...
I haven't logged on in a while because I was getting so discouraged. I have turned my attentions away from the campaign to take a breather. Instead of my usual political book read, I started reading a couple of books re:.... Jungian Psychology. Very interesting by the way.
So...I log and on go to this thread first because I hadn't heard of another school shooting (haven't been watching TV either) and here is a Jungian Psychology post out of the F!@#ing Blue!! There is also a lecture on Jungian Psychology at the Unitarian Church locally this Sunday. Talk about some cosmic connections. The universe is obviously trying to tell me something! LOL!
Oh, by the way...I don't smoke pot (for legal reasons only). So don't tell me to put the bong down. LOL!
Ok. If that is true,
what can be done about it?
Legalize Pot?
I don't really know.
LOL!!
I keep saying that if they REALLY want to get this whole thing over on the public, they should legalize the ganja.....you would have such a compliant public if you did.....
tee heeeee :D
If he'd been using that...
A hysterical media would be telling us the exact strain and variety, just as they're telling us brands/calibers/etc. for the guns involved in the incident. Of course, the same kind of disclosure doesn't apply -- either here or at VA Tech -- to what I call "the three D's." Just like last-time, we're not going to be told the Doctor, the Drug, or the Dosage of antidepressant drugs.
Three "follow the money" reasons exist in the form of ads you're bombarded-with every day. Viagra, Cialis, and Levitra. If we had no boner-drug ads and this number of gun-ads, we'd no-doubt see the opposite kind of bias...
JMR
CNN witness
A witness interviewed by CNN states that the whole event "felt staged". "It was like a scene from a movie."
Thank you NASA & CIA, for another black op for gun control...
...these events are becoming all to obvious. Especially when they include the instant nationwide media coverage. I didnt see any computer animated graphics when that 16yr old killed his family last week. I guess that must have been an actual out of the blue events that sometimes do occur, albeit a lot less frequent than these black op events, which usually have all the associated media tools prepared in advance. Research CIA project "mk ultra" and "serotonin reuptake inhibitors" also Research Columbine folks, its not what you were told it was, also Virginia tech. Did you know that the only person, a girl, to survive/witness VA tech(she was shot but laid there playing dead) was killed just months later in a mysterious car accident. When people finally wake up to the true nature of the NWO and how diabolical and ruthless it is, there WILL be hell to pay. And yes, watch the attacks on the 2nd ammendment blaze a trail thru the MSM over the next few weeks. Call me crazy if you want ...and i actually urge you to NOT believe me...but DO YOUR OWN INVESTIGATION! Exposing these truhs is the ONLY way to stop black op events like these.
i have to agree
something about all these "events" just doesn't pass the smell test.
The same question always comes up for me these days
How many would have died if the populace were permitted to arm itself? I grew up back east where "polite" people hid their guns, then moved west several decades ago, and discovered the men still wore pistols on their hip and had shotguns in their truck. Guess where the people were actually polite and the crime rate was virtually zero? That's right - the "wild, wild west."
I do not mean to demean this tragedy, but I do wonder: Would he have ever apporached the college if he knew the kids from Montana and Wyoming were all there with their pistols?
One other disturbing observation: These shooters are often on antidepressants, which even the commercials admit make some people suicidal. I really think they make some people homicidal, too. Just a creepy thought!
People Kill People
and that is all I have to say :(
Freedom is slavery
In a few words, look, if you research into things like the OKC Bombings, etc. all you find is continual links to the CIA and gov't coverups. Then, you always seem to see in every case some new legislation being pushed related to this "terrible event." The pattern is there if you invest some time and research past the MSM bullcrap.
To me, this just stinks of yet another progoganda attempt to convince the public to voluntarily give up our 2nd ammendment right to bear arms. Don't be fooled! The UN wants global disamament (except for the UN, of course) and 90% population reduction. For those of you who still think say, "What does that have to do with the US?" just look at Senator Obama's newest wonder-bill that would force the US to pay a UN "global tax." What do you call an organization that requires members to pay a tax? It's called "government." The UN is an embryonic world government. If you like the callous way politicians in Washington toy with your lives and money like playthings wait until control is centralized for the whole world in Brussels, Belgium (?). Will they care about you or your family?
No matter what caused the shooting - CIA secret op, or an ordinary act of crime - it doesn't matter. The CFR controlled media will use this event to push their UN one world gov't disarmament agenda forward.
You have to understand that there is such an agenda for one world government (and the people doing it are not nice!) or the news will look like seemingly random events to you. But, the "news" (propoganda) is not random. "Global warming" = UN control of industry. Etc, etc., etc. The whole idea is for the UN to use any ploy available to them to defeat national soveriegnty and take control of internal affairs of every nation on earth. If they can convince you and I that CO2 causing warming (and it does not) then maybe we'll allow a law to pass giving over control of our manufacturing to the UN. It's just trickery. It's treason. It's criminal. It's immoral. Our children are taught these lies in the gov't controlled schools. One good website I'll name here is Global Research.ca. Check it out for some unfiltered and excellent journalistic reporting on the effort to subvert the world into this one world communist/fascist/socialist/whateveryoucallit government where the people are slaves and there is no God. Or, worse, they put up a leader and force the people to worship this man as if he were a god like in N. Korea or something.
If you are new to this kind of information, pls be brave. Do not shut your eyes. Yes, it is difficult, but, we all must learn the truth.
I'm sure sites like this one are full of brave people who have taken the time to look into this madness and can share lots of bits about it.
BTW Ron Paul does not talk about a conspiracy, but, he does talk of the the CFR, NAU, and the Superhighway. My views may not be exactly like Ron Paul's.
if people were armed
there would be less killings... something is up.. why do they always kill themselves.. can someone say bourne identity..????
Possibly because
they are suicidal to begin with. Which is what emboldens them to kill others they don't like, since they know they will not be going to prison.
I never understood this
Why do they take random, innocent people with them on the way out.
Because They Are NUTS
These are people who are just totally and completely crazy, and you can't apply logic and reason to try to understand them.
From what they are saying, the dude got off his "meds" (no idea WHAT medications, probably and anti-depressant or anti-psychotic), but usually when that happens the brain chemistry goes haywire and behavior becomes unbelievably unpredictable and possibly dangerous.
I agree 100%. It does make
I agree 100%.
It does make you wonder though, how much of our population is being over-medicated in the first place?
If guns kill people...Do pencils misspell words?
I've owned many firearms in my life beginning at age 13...(I'm 43 now) and I've never seen any one of them do anything I didnt ask them to do...
Lucky for me...NC is an open carry state...so I often walk around with my H&K USP40 on my hip... which leads to interesting conversations...
One day I was standing in Lowes getting some hose...I had my wifes S&W J-frame on... this aging hippie Asheville woman snarls at me..."Why do you carry that f-ing gun" I looked over at her and replied..."I carry this gun for the same reason there is a fire extinguisher bolted to the floor of my truck...I hope I never need either one...but if I do they will sure do me a lot more good with me than on my bedside table!" She stood there in stunned silence for a few seconds...then said..."Ok...I'll buy that!" and walked off....
At last years NC Libertarian State Convention... I was openly carrying the H&K...and the mgr of the hotel came up to me and asked if I was a Law Enforcement Officer...I said "No...just a citizen excersizing my rights..." she told me that they did not allow guns in their hotel... (except for cops) well...NC law is very specific about the signage that is required to prohibit guns..and they did not have it... I asked her to show me the signs as required by law...she of course couldnt because they werent there...
The fact that she would have been perfectly comfortable with my being armed if I had a badge to go with my 40...hmmmm... I shoot IDPA matches at my local range against lots of cops..and beat nearly all of them...as did my son...when he was 12!
We should arrange a "National Open Carry Day" to remind the sheeple that we actually do have the Right to bear arms...
Dave
Teaching Flying...and talking Ron Paul...and Liberty!
Thousands of people are
Thousands of people are killed each year in their automobiles. Should we ban automobiles?
Doctors Kill 225,000 People Each Year In The US.......
via iatrogenic deaths.
http://www.mercola.com/20...
I've read in other sources of that figure doubled, so I think this is a conservative number. Maybe we should ban doctors and big pharma, it sure would save a lot of lives.......................
Our culture is sick
It's not guns. It's what we have been experiencing trying to get Ron Paul's message heard. The crooked nature of our "Republic". The BS agenda of the media, the tearing up of our Constitution, etc, etc, etc. Americans are angry, unhappy, beaten down. That is not a gun problem. It's a leadership problem. We want our freedom back. We don't want to be lied to anymore by our President. Taking guns away will do nothing but protect the cause of our angst.
This is what we get from gun
This is what we get from gun free zones.
agreed.
agreed.
instead of posting "GUN FREE
instead of posting "GUN FREE ZONE" they should put up a huge billboard thats tells criminals "Come here for easy targets. Nobody is allowed to defend themselves. Do what you wish."
Funny but Sad
and TRUE :(
Read The Franklin Coverup by John DeCamp
A book about the real Nebraska bicameral state legislature investigation into organized child abductions, mind control and Manchurian candidates.
Don't take anyone's word for it (including mine); do your own reading & research into the topic.
Notice that the shootings are ramping up during election season, but gun control is not even being discussed by the presidential candidates. You can be sure that President ________ (only exception would be Ron Paul) will sign stringent Democrat sponsored gun control legislation during the next Congress, using the mass shootings as political cover (ie. "we have to do something"). The recent bill passed was just the start.
So, your suspicion is not beyond the pale.
You can also watch "Conspiracy of Silence" on google video...
...about The Franklin Coverup. I think this will begin to show you the truth about our leaders, that they are in NO WAY christian.
http://www.voxfux.com/fea...
http://video.google.com/v...
Conspiracy of Silence
...is a British documentary (Yorkshire TV?) which was pulled from cable TV a few hours before it was to be broadcast in the US. The original was destroyed; a partially edited copy was distributed. It is definitely worth watching, but in reality, everyone should read the Franklin book. If it sounds too "conspiracy" you, understand that the story was written by the lead investigator (DeCamp) for the Nebraska legislature.
Interestingly, the Franklin case was front page news in the Washington Times back in ~1989. Check it out.
This Makes Conspiracy Of Silence Peanuts In Comparison.......
with the most amazing cast of characters (a lot of VERY high up involved). I read The Franklin Coverup a couple of years ago and saw Conspiracy Of Silence on the internet but the one I recently found out makes them pale in comparison. And heres the link.
http://www.pehi.eu/dutrou...
Thank you NASA & CIA, for another black op for gun control...
...these events are becoming all to obvious. Especially when they include the instant nationwide media coverage. I didnt see any computer animated graphics when that 16yr old killed his family last week. I guess that must have been an actual out of the blue events that sometimes do occur, albeit a lot less frequent than these black op events, which usually have all the associated media tools prepared in advance. Research CIA project "mk ultra" and "serotonin reuptake inhibitors" also Research Columbine folks, its not what you were told it was, also Virginia tech. Did you know that the only person, a girl, to survive/witness VA tech(she was shot but laid there playing dead) was killed just months later in a mysterious car accident. When people finally wake up to the true nature of the NWO and how diabolical and ruthless it is, there WILL be hell to pay. And yes, watch the attacks on the 2nd ammendment blaze a trail thru the MSM over the next few weeks. Call me crazy if you want ...and i actually urge you to NOT believe me...but DO YOUR OWN INVESTIGATION! Exposing these truhs is the ONLY way to stop black op events like these.
This is what we need to do
We need to have a Minuteman Organization. Just in case the crazies come and try to take our guns... or the Chinese.
Disgusting
The Today Show had a full computer animated graphic of the auditorium showing how the shooter did it. Talk about fear mongering.
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"No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal
rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him." --Thomas Jefferson
School shooting, 2 days after UN wants American to disarm?
I thought I read a thread talking about the UN's wish to disarm Americans 2 or 3 days ago. Nah, just a coincidence. If I were in charge of the task of trying to disarm the Americans, which is un-constitutional, I would arrange to have the establishment's best tools, the MSM, ready to write as much against guns as possible, and even better, have an incident like the school shooting. That would get the ignorant believing in the evil of guns. Is is possible to stage such an event? I'd put my money on yes. Let us see how the MSM will report this incident, and hear what they "discreetly propose". Conspiracy theory, until theory is proven correct, it longer is a conspiracy. Wait and see...
Cars VS Guns
Now if we were to look at these things objectivley we can come to some valid conclusions.
Now we already are aware of the fact that MSM has it's own agenda's and pushes these agenda's on the people. Think of how easy it would be to get people all worked up about cars being dangerous and mass killing weapons.
There are Thousands of multiple murders by car in the U.S. When a drunk driver or a pycho pathic driver is on the road and kills people it is not blown up all over the news. It is'nt made into a giant issue that needs to be debated in government policies. The news is'nt talking about, Hey there was another mass car killing today in Virginia, "What are we going to do about this car situation in America?"
Would Congressman move to start pushing legislation to discar us? Would there Brain Numbing Rhetoric become a public debate? Spoken at every water cooler, at every dinner table, would it not become a major issue?
The point is these guys can blow up what ever issue they want, and brainwash the people with there ever present drone of suggestion. You see when you wake up in the morning and turn on the tube. What is the first thing you see, a Mcdonalds commercial maybe? At that very moment the seed of thought is branded into your head, Burger= Mcdonalds. Branded like a cow, you belong to us now sucker! Have you ever thought of why they call it a brand name?
The Media uses the same means to push stuff like this into the spotlight, to make it an issue. That inturn forces political pressure from above as well as below. Problem Reaction Solution, Learn about it~
The Seeds of Truth we Plant today will grow to be the Tree of Freedom tommorow.