None dare call it conspiracy..
Posted February 15th, 2008 by Jane Aitken
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This is for those of you who still don't think the CFR/Trilats/Bilderbergers have NOT dominated the State Dept for the last 40 years.
Larry McDonald was subsequently killed along with 268 others by the Russian Communists in 1983 while flying on KAL-007 from Alaska to South Korea to give a South Korean anniversary Freedom Speech similar to the Boston Tea Party rally of 2007!
ADDENDUM: I am adding this because of some of the comments below.
My point was NOT to speculate on 'who' shot down KAL-007 or why, I was just highlighting McDonald's interview for what information THAT contained about how the elitists have infiltrated every part of our government, by their own admission, and by their own design.
I only mentioned the fact that he was in that plane to answer the inevitable question of 'where is he now'. That's all. I have no clue why KAL-007 was shot down. It's something I never will know so like one other major event some like to speculate about, I do NOT waste time on it.
Once again, my point in posting this is, Larry knew about the elitism. I mean, compare to this situation: in our own state we have a group called the NH Municipal Association. They have since changed their name to the "Local Government Center" just to fool people into thinking they are an official government entity. What are they really? They are a group of government EMPLOYEES who steer things in the best direction for THEMSELVES. They lobby for THEMSELVES and no one else and they influence legislation. So at the state level, the NHMA is like the CFR.... they are all in it, and all in gov't positions. They have undue influence. You see this at all levels. There is no conspiracy, it's just a fact. And these people also give 'advice'. Look it up. CFR is merely a big, dangerous LOBBY.
(Which is what we must ultimately become...)
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Nothing will ever change
Nothing will ever change until Americans call out the guilty people for what they are. We all know who they are but most of us are scared of being called an anti-semite. By the way...just having a few token non-neocons in their groups does not venerate their guilt. They do this by design I think to make themselves feel better for the most part. Imagine a group of people who will kill millions and not give one damn about it. They already did it once starting around 1918 and after all was said and done in 1947 over a 100 million people were dead. Study, learn and fight the propaganda.
Ezra T Benson
Ezra T. Benson, one of the prophets of the LDS (Mormon) Church endorsed this book and encouraged the the members to read it.
One more reason to vote Ron Paul,
get liberty minded people in Congress, Homeschool your Children......
Libera me, let the truth break, what my fears make--Leslie Phillips
Thank you
Thank you for this video.
You must have
Rockefeller-like money to start a big network of organizations like that.
yeah, no problem with all that
except that it's NOT a waste of time to talk or think about what has happened. get stuck on it? well, that's understood about anything.
if i weren't able to hold a conversation with anyone without busting into 9/11 then yeah, i'd have a problem.
just like a family member whose every other sentence includes something about her cute dogs. it gets old.
but i think that's the point the CFR and others are making.
create situations that are uncomfortable for the "average" person to want to discuss - and then when they finally DO accept the REALITY of what happened...FOR REAL, i mean.......people aren't going to want to talk about it anyway because what can they do? it's done! we can't go back.
but ah!.......that's our first error. let it stand and it becomes a mistake.
just remember, yes we can.
(hey!.....just like obamaramayomama says.....)
yes we can.
yes we can tell our government to go to hell in a hand basket.
yes we can provide a swift kick in the ass.
ain't nobody tellin me i can't forgive someone.....anybody...
when i've been given the CHANCE to forgive.
after i've put their ass away for life. i'll show you decider.
and ain't NOBODY gonna tell me to forget what somebody did to me or to not talk about it.
nobody.
"and ain't NOBODY gonna tell me to forget what somebody did to
me or to not talk about it."
nobody.
Ohh. Did daddy touch you "down there"?
good
Thank you for this post
hmmmmm....
maybe what we need to do is give ourselves some fancy shmancy name and open a branch in each state. Then we could act like we are some official government group and get everyday Joe Blow to listen to us too....
Lemme see.....Federal Coalition of United Citizens....hmmmm..needs work...but sure sounds formal and official....
LOL
Excellent idea.
We must use excellent revolutionary creativity to fight this revolution.
I like you're thinking, it gives me hope that we may get organized and prepare for the restoring of our country and our land.We can do it all in the sunshine with a nice flagpole and a dont tread on me flag maybe ;}>
Thank you all my fellow revolutionaries past present and future.
Be strengthened that we have used the media to communicate to each other and they don't even know it.
Who shot is down?
Thats easy, The soviets. The aircraft in question a 747-200 kal 007(BOND)
had overflown the most secure and secretive base in the soviet empire. The kamchatcka peninsula was the soviets Naval and aircorp umbrella for the pacific. As a joke.
One pilot says to the other before they get shot down." Did you see that last street sign, I think wer are lost;)
On the conspiratal side, there were many reports of the captian being quoted by several sources that he was going to fly a spy mission. Why would they chose a 747 instead of a sr-71 i dont know.
Anyways, Flight 800 that was shot down by the navy out of jfk also had prominent members of society. I believe one of the top aids researchers also....
we do
We do vote for these new world dictators don't we ?? Take a look... http://www.youtube.com/wa... See doesn't that look like you choses them ??
Proof of One World Government, NWO
"The First Global Revolution" (Simon and Schuster, London, 1991) written by Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider, published by the Club of Rome:
"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.... All these dangers are caused by human intervention... The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
Dr. Dixy Lee Ray stated at the UNCED meeting in Rio, one year after the publishing of "The First Global Revolution":
“The objective, clearly enunciated by the leaders of UNCED, is to bring about a change in the present system of independent nations. The future is to be World Government with central planning by the United Nations. Fear of environmental crises — whether real or not — is expected to lead to compliance.”
Here’s a statement from Richard Haass, the current president of The Council of Foreign Relations:
”A system of world government must be created and sovereignty eliminated in order to fight global warming, as well as terrorism. Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function," says Haass. "Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves..."
Here’s a little gem from One World Democracy, A Progressive Vision for Enforceable Global Law by Jerry Tetalman and Byron Belitsosa
“…positive program to end war and exploitation through enforceable global law and a federation of nations, including a world legislature.”
For more insights into the “progressive” mindset, read the first chapter from the above book at: http://www.oneworlddemocr... , my jaw totally dropped when I read this, it’s all here in black and white.
none dare call it conspiracy
none dare call it conspiracy is a great book.. I reccomend that all buy it and read it.. once you read this book your eyes will be opened! great post Jane!
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
Go Ron Paul
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I am actally glad I quit school at 10th grade
I feel I am so much smarter. WOW what a revelation! I agree with you Jane Aitken You know what is going on in our schools it is just SICK and the colleges mix that with the anti depressants = DEATH Wake up people its right in front of you!! BUT the media will twist this into GUN CONTROL another loss of our freedom ..think about it
Never forget
We couldn't have this extreme corruption of our media, our education, our democratic processes, our healthcare, etc, if we didn't give a small group of criminals ultimate control over our lives via the federal reserve.
You remove the private control of our currency and our economy, we can start saving our money, buying back power, and knocking down those other problems. You try to tackle those problems but leave this small group in this supreme power position with infiinite wealth--and the control over YOUR wealth--and you're nowhere.
Awwww It's Not So Bad, Can't We All Just Get Along?????
http://www.un.org/Overvie...
If H Daddy and Noelle
were representative of most Paul supporters, we'd all need to shoot our selves. Go to Obamas blogs since you support him and his socialist ideals. Thats where your support truly lies. The best type of socialism for you. The 2 of you need bitch slapped!
In many respects I am a libertarian. And
I support Dr. Paul. A socialist? Me? Got any evidence?
Libertarians
This is just the problem I have with people calling themselves 'libertarians'. A lot of them are liberals in disguise and are just feeding the open borders propaganda machine with their utopianism. In the final analysis, they end up being not much different from the one-worlders...
They mention Dr. Paul in this video which explains why the UN is bad, and we should NEVER agree to let any of our tax dollars go fuel it's 'world government' even under the guise of 'charity'. How foolish!
http://www.getusout.org/u...
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You Didn't Answer Before
Why are you for Ron Paul again, since you disagree with most of what he says?
DC, I don't disagree
with Dr. Paul. I disagree with YOU. Or, at least some of what you say. I imagine that we agree on most things. If we didn't we probably would not both support RP.
I bet we agree on: free markets, free speech, limited government, lower federal (if any) taxes, personal responsibility, local control, and probably a lot more
I tend to disagree with: the sky is falling, widespread conspiricies, any form of bigotry, CFR/NWO/UN take over, them vs. us mentality
i don't care if you agree or
i don't care if you agree or don't agree.. truth is truth and right is right... everyone can take their opinions and throw them out the window! either its happeneing or its not.. and it is.. this is the reason why Ron Paul has been killed in the one world government supporting media! if you can;t see this your very naive
as for me and my home, we shall worship the LORD
But You Disagree With Ron Paul
on probably the most significant aspect of his platform, the Federal Reserve. You say you disagree with me, but not Dr. Paul? Hello? How is it that you keep saying you "agree" with him, but everytime someone gets specific in support of a particular position of his campaign, you disagree with it. Your mouthing of platitudes that most candidates claim to espouse is disingenuous, and is further evidence that you not only don't support Ron Paul, you are only dimly aware of what he's advocated his entire career.
You say your against "Us vs. Them"? Who is Us, and who is Them? Your generalities about conspiracies are not convincing, sorry. You need to be specific, otherwise how can I take you seriously? It just seems like mindless provocatism. A specific argument other than bashing the site would maybe convince me of your sincerity. Until then, your motive for posting here becomes increasingly transparent.
You seem to always want some sort of argument.
I don't know why. You say "...but everytime someone gets specific in support of a particular position of his campaign, you disagree with it." Mostly I agree with what I read on DP. There are lots of intelligent posts, lots of good links that I find interesting and educational, and then there is some crap. Usually I ignore the crap. But when someone, for example, equates the Federal Reserve system with slavery, or, says dollars are worthless, or some other foolishness, I tend to say a few words.
As for your 2nd paragraph I am quite sure there is nothing I could say that would satisfy you.
No I Don't
I don't want an argument, but if you post something silly I'm going to respond.
Ron Paul himself has described the Federal Reserve in morally unequivocal terms. I don't believe that your a supporter if you do not agree on this central principle of his. Yes, dollars are not "worthless," but Ron Paul's criticisms of the Fed (and they are legion) are right on the money, if you'll pardon the expression.
NWO
Was mentioned first by GB senior then his son I also heard the Russian president use the term at first just thought it was a speech writer term.
Check around do some research it's real. CFR also has written on the subject. It is happening like my son told me "people have to discover this on their own because they won't believe you" he was right. The criminal bastards have an agenda inspired by greed and power. If you do not see thats your right but many of us are aware of what is happening and thats our right. We won't put you down if you don't put us down. Peace
No one has the excuse any longer
The future is here, believe what you wish, but it is all being revealed around us in HD reality, as we speak, day by day. Beyond hope??, absolutely not, but like all things the validity of it has to proceed the solution of it. If you were in the middle of a storm, you could insist all you want that it was not real, but untill you realize that yes, you are in the middle of it, would your be able to do whatever it takes to put yourself out of harms way.
H-daddy, please educate yourself
H-daddy you said "I tend to disagree with: the sky is falling, widespread conspiricies, any form of bigotry, CFR/NWO/UN take over, them vs. us mentality".
The situation is serious and not a 'conspiracy'. It is happening right under our noses, more expressedly in our schools. All one needs to do is watch the video that Mike just posted or this one: http://www.getusout.org/u... to see that world federalism is an ideology that is being promoted by UNESCO in our very schools. I don't know how hold you are, but it is likely you were under Goals 2000 which was UN controlled. Thus you have no compunction about advocating for taxation to send money to foreign countries. One of the goals of the world federalists is global socialism, or the redistribution of wealth from one nation to another. Isn't it bad enough we have socialism within our borders?
This is no longer a conspiracy but it is the overarching problem that is creating our problems -- power hungry organizations that have sprung up and with the help of the superrich, attempting to create a one-world system in order to control EVERYONE and disabuse those of us in the US who amazingly think our rights are inherent and inalienable.
Simply reading the UN's rule #29 ought to get you incensed. After listing your 'rights' it gives this condition:
"These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations [article 29, paragraph 3]."
One of those goals is total disarmament of individuals. That alone is frightening.
Read more about it here and educate yourself:
http://www.eagleforum.org...
First of all, my apology
to you for a nasty remark I made the other day. It was immature of me and I apologize.
Your response is hard to answer. First, I agree that every observation you make is real. I do not dispute that there are people, and organizations, that believe in world government etc. and, importantly, are working towards that end. Indeed, this idea has been around for a long, long time with, in my opinion, very limited movement. Einstein promoted world government back in the 40's and 50's. World federalism, while not dead in the water, is going nowhere fast.
Where we differ is in our preceptions of how serious this issue is. As an educator, for example, I see no evidence that UNESCO has any affect on our schools. You see it differently and I respect that. I teach kids from allover the world. Even students who have attended IB schools. If anything, I think American educational practices are corrupting other countries.
I guess the UN is one of those issues I don't get too riled up about. I may regret it someday but for now I am focused on local issues, Dr. Paul, and getting my family ready for what may be, thanks to our present federal government, some very hard times ahead. Pays to be prepared.
Ron Paul can do it
Elect Ron Paul and clean out this government.
ps-in addition to my post below
yes,American educational practices are corrupting other countries,b/c American education practices are 'not' American. The compulsory schooling model and subsequent addendums/changes,etc. was taken straight out of Prussia,Germany. The plan was then to infuse other countries with the same practices. But to start in the U.S.,where of course they would ride on the US coattails of freedom and justice for all. [you know,freedom to have education and educational justice...]
btw:did you know that Dewey visited China in the 20's,and found it 'a blank slate' and went from there to influence the Chinese society/education?
And,did you know that Rockefeller and Ford were heavy influences,directly involved,in creating,financing and marketing compulsory schooling?
You really gotta check out Gatto and Iserbeyt.
As an educator...
Hmmm...perhaps that explains it. I too have taught individuals from all over the world,and had my son in a public charter school before removing him to unschool.
Have you read www.johntaylorgatto.com 'The underground History of American Education'?
He served in the shadow libertarian government several years ago-in the dept of ed. He is a 30 yr NYC school teacher and former NYC teacher of the year. His book is dense and beyond well-documented. Modern schooling for the last 150 yrs has been designed for the purpose of social engineering [model taken out of prussia germany],for the purpose of internationalism/global governance under the UN.
Charlotte Thomson Iserbeyt,who served under the reagan admin. but lost her job when she blew the whistle,also leaves a paper trail. www.deliberatedumbingdown... [btw: she is listed on RP's endorsement page.]
You can read both of their books [though very large]for free online,or order them.
In the end,the books coincided with my own experience of what was happening,both working with other children and then seeing my own in 'school'.
It seems from your post that you are not as well versed on the issue as you think you are. Or,that you are so immersed in it that you do not have a full perspective.
In the end,the problem with world governance is not so much loss of US sovereignty [or any nation state's sovereignty]; it is loss of individual sovereignty. The further removed we are from those who 'govern us',the less likely we are to influence or have any say over 'our rights'. That is a fact that you can see in UNESCO [land grabs under the guise of cultural preservation] and science that is debunked or promoted,and therefore funded.
btw: I also have lived aroudn the world,and have significant experience in the international development field,not least of which is studying alongside African students as a minority American. I have seen first hand the effects of what is going on,along with the struggle for those who are 'disenfranchised' to then 'become part of the system',thinking it a victory.
This is the plan: Problem-reaction-solution
Hard to answer? Not really.
Not sure why since it IS a local issue. They are in our town gov'ts and schools pushing for world federalism. I can't believe you are a teacher and don't see how UNESCO is running our schools. Even if schools are not working under IB yet, Goals 2000 certainly has poisoned them.
The world federalist movement is NOT small. We have iso.org for stealing techology (my husband agreed) and now we have ibo.org to infuse the world order ideology into our children. Our media is controlled by those who believe in world order and you call it a 'limited movement'? I hardly think so. I think it is the most pervasive and destructive thing we are facing today and indeed, the 'big picture'. I see it and fight it locally as well.
Because people like you fail to see that agreeing to fund the UN even more with our tax dollars is actually FUELING their push to become the single authority over us, they ARE making inroads. Perhaps you yourself admirably have NOT taught your students to dis nationalism under our constitution as if it were some sort of crime, but others are. Just looke at this nutcase. If I were the president of that college, he'd be out on his sorry ass, putting the UN flag up there like it was the ultimate authority. Shame on him! At least at my school, the janitor understood what I was telling him and ripped that sucker down. It was flying higher than our US Flag!!!!!!!!!
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Jane
I dont think booting him out on his sorry ass is good enough do you? He will just go on and preach his poison. He is a traitor and I am quite sure he knows it. God I would love to run into this guy or Noelle on the street. There will be a day for people like them.
So where would you like to
meet?
You just don't understand what he says,
like most Paul supporters.
Noell
You are a damn TROLL. WE UNDERSTAND WHAT HE IS. He is a globalist NWO schill. He is a traitor just like you. We know what the UN is. It's the enemy of ALL countries who value freedom and soveriengty.
Noelle, Who are
you? Are you really the only true libertarian on DP? If so, why is that?
Not the only one
but one of very few.
I'm not sure why.
so,both of you:
Define 'libertarian' for us?
B/C perhaps we are operating under different definitions.
In the end,the issue is restoring the constitution and supporting RP's candidacy as a means to do that.
Not sure that anyone's specific definitions of 'libertarian',republican or otherwise really matter.
This is not the 'libertarian RP movement',for example.
You are the ones distracting the movement by bringing all discourse under the heading of 'libertarian'.
This forum is not dedicated to libertarian ideals and only libertarian ideals. Who determines the definition?
Political parties is a murky field at best.
We use GOP b/c RP himself has decided it the best course to pursue his agenda.
Does not mean we are all hard core GOP back to the core members.
I could care less if we have any political parties,b/c the labels end up being divisive and counter-productive.
Can we stick with topics at hand,and NOT whether they fit into 'libertarian' or not? Thanks.
Libertarian
to me, means as little government regulation of individuals and their businesses as possible. The most liberty compatible with the smallest amount of government intervention. Respect for individual liberty and property rights. Dr. Paul's philosophy.
Ok THEN WISCONSIN NEEDS CAMPAIGN MONEY FOR ADS
to run on radio and TV I have spent over 500 and canvassed 1200 slim jims I ATLEAST expect wisconsin not to be ignored.. These people in wisconsin are thinking he is out because we can not communicate like other canidates can. The message boards show it and so do the polls.
Please help the campaign now & write about this topic later
Great video Jane! Pat Buchanon was so young and poor Larry murdered and denied his liberty to grow old and gain even greater wisdom.
Here is my plea:
Please fellow patriots, I know how addictive this site can be. But we are waging a campaign here and these daytime hours are valuable time when you could be helping Dr. Paul by making phone calls on behalf of the campaign! These threads are all very fascinating but our main objective should be to get the word out, spread the word and get the job done. Please, please take an hour or two or more of your time (and if you are not already a precinct leader sign up and then you can get online) and make phone calls to people in other states who have yet to vote. We do not have this valuable time to waste. Pick up this thread after you have done your duty or when it is too late in the day to make calls. This week I contacted 50 people in MD and will call 50 in Ohio and then I'll do some more. The great news is that 4 RPR won their congressional primaries in MD!! Please use this weekend time when most people have unlimited calling on their cells. Thank you.
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I agree..
But, this is why I am posting this stuff -- because sadly there are people that think Obama is 'just as good' as Ron Paul, when there is ABSOLUTELY no comparison. Obama is working for the complete opposite. Most people who are promoted to front runners that were formerly complete unknowns have sold out to this junk, otherwise they'd be stifled like our good doctor. So I am hoping that this will inspire you to STICK WITH RON PAUL and to go out and work for him if your state has not voted yet. I've already done that in my state, so I continue with education. There is enough of this world federalism infestation in NH for me to work at educating people 24/7. We are about to institute the very first IBO school in my town, in my high school, which I fought for years. I used to joke that if the dopes who want to spend $70M on this school have their way, they would likely turn it into a UN school. Guess what? In 2009, the town will start the UNESCO program here. It's just sick, I tell you!