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*MUST READ* SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE BREAKS STORY ON FEMA CAMPS

Great article by a former congressman.

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Our money is building our prisons

Start talking folks. Don't ramble on like a nutcase. Compile these articles and send them to folks, start meetup groups, etc. There are people in your area. Find them and organize. Educate your community. We need to do this NOW.

So does anyone have any suggestion

about when it is time to leave Dodge??
Real ID cards? Gun control? Forced vaccination? Being on the no fly list?
What are the breaking points, the clues to read the writing on the wall? How did so many Jews know it was time to get out?

I agree that something is

I agree that something is definitely being prepared for Americans. It's hard to deny. That FEMA list however is specious at best. Read my post below about the Georgia "camps"-- several of them are active state prisons with over 1000 prisoners, while the list is claiming that they're FEMA facilities "manned w/ no prisoners."

I saw the Youtube video about the amtrak station, and it looked pretty convincing to me. The barbed wire fences turned inward, the industrial-grade turnstiles, the windsocks, the RED/BLUE/GREEN zones. What reason does a train depot have for inward-turned fences? I have to say I'm a believer myself, though the list is fictitious.

What's the real take-home message from that article

That there is zero difference between the political parties, who are both completely steeped in this process. Jane Harmon is obviously quite dangerous. And why is Naomi Wolf supporting Hussein Obama, who will most certainly lead us down this same path. Even people who are aware of the problem remain astonishingly naive.

Does anyone know whether the American Enterprise Terrorist Act mentioned in the article has actually become law? If so, "sit-ins" for animal rights would now be considered acts of terrorism. There is no end to the possibilities.

All one has to do is study

All one has to do is study the legislation that has been passed (particularly since 9/11) to know that something is in the works. And it has nothing to do with the war on terror and protecting American soil. If that were the case we would have our southern border closed and protected - these new laws are to be used against American citizens.

Use and abuse of power...

using our OWN tax dollars against us. My taxes due this year will certainly sustain me here for the rest of my life.

I went to the supposed local

I went to the supposed local one yesterday. I couldn't get close enough to get any significant pictures. I will have to wait until my pilot friend gets home in a few weeks.

You mean....??!!!??

OMG, so you mean they are actually ANTICIPATING where the REBELLION WOULD BE?? And making the no. of camps based on that? Guess that explains what they are for...

So I went to Google Earth

Fortune Favors the Bold

And there were only 3 of these camps for all of New Jersey and only 5 in New York City. Looking at them from above, they looked like they could be anything.
However, I noticed in place like Berkeley, Austin, and MISSOULA, there were a "ton" of these camps.
Keep in mind these camps can be "tagged" by anyone.
Now ask yourself. Would there be more camps in Missoula, or all of New Jersey?
Sorry, it does seem like this is a case of "Paultard" syndrome.

Montana has vehemently rejected the national ID card.

"Illegals" from the SF Chronicle story could mean anyone not in possession of a national ID card.

I know a few peeps from

I know a few peeps from montana and im pretty sure that state has one of the largest private gun ownership in the country, and all of them(that I know) said they would refuse to give up their guns

You mean....??!!!??

OMG, so you mean they are actually ANTICIPATING where the REBELLION WOULD BE?? And making the no. of camps based on that? Guess that explains what they are for...
I didn't even know where Missouli was, but when I found out it was in MONTANNA----whoaaa! (Maybe not such a nice place to move to after all...)

Summers are nice in MT

but winter in a FEMA camp would be tough.

While I think some of these

While I think some of these claims may be a bit exaggerated I don't dismiss them all out of hand either.

One thing to remember if this scenario ever presents itself; is this quote:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, polkers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur -- what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago: 1918-1956

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If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. Samuel Adams

Yes, thanks for that. The Russian people know very well

the experience of being sent to camps for nothing more than their political or religious beliefs. In that society and others in Eastern Europe, if you didn't go along with the authorities, you could simply be labelled as an "anti-socialist element" or "hooligan". This was sufficient to end your lilfe as you knew it.

We are dangerously close to creating hysteria here where the label "terrorist" or even "terrorist sympathizer" could be levelled at any anti-government person. We're not there yet, but any sort of real terrorist attacks will make such a move almost certain.

We Already Have.....

A country of people, all too many, that ridicule, mock and have a little too much disdain for at least the Christian religion. Remember, in the Soviet Union they were continuously told that religion was "the opiate of the masses."

When you see some of the posts on this forum and hear all too many people out there in OUR country today, people who at one time had a respect for and objectively worshipped God instead "forming" a set of "beliefs" that they subjectively made up as they went along, it sounds more and more like it is becoming the USSA - the Union of Soviet Socialist America!

Very well planned I might say....

Excellent

Point. Thanks for the read.

Are there any missing "groups" from New Orleans?

Just a thought - anyone?

They were mostly poor and if family reported them missing, would anyone take them serious?

This is the stuff people

This is the stuff people need to be leaning about, not who is ahead in American Idol!

Fear not!

Those camps will be for them. Once all the people find out about their purpose. But it would be good if some of you guys get a picture of them. As for me, I'm about ot leave a concentration camp that is NY pretty soon. Over the years, my state has gone from bad to worse. This have become the home of all those things and people unAmerican.

"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius

If there is a camp near you,

If there is a camp near you, drive there, take pictures, and post them.

I will be going to the supposed camp near me this weekend.

If I cannot get close enough I'll have my friend fly me over it and I'll take my long zoom lens with me. I have flown over the area before with a single prop, but I wasn't looking for a camp, haha.

Let us know when you get

Let us know when you get those pictures, we want to see them!

Let's tell Ron Paul to make a documentary!

The idea suggested by Matthew below is excellent.

The same way we all learned about what's going on in this country (NWO, CFR, etc.) and the true meaning of liberty, so can others.

Let's make this suggestion to Ron Paul to make a documentary.

Matthew said: "The only way to turn back the tide now would be a mass education campaign. Ron Paul is in a position to educate America ... A well-made documentary exposing first and foremost the media, and then segueing into the various vitally important things the media lies about--the Fed being a very, very important one--and then closing with a rock solid explanation of how our rights work."

I've tried. Sent messages to

I've tried. Sent messages to the campaign but they're not interested for whatever reason. I don't know why some brilliant youtube movie maker hasn't struck on this idea. If anyone wants to collaborate on the project, let me know ... I don't have the resources to make the movie, but I'm a good counter-propagandist.

Aaron Russo

Aaron's "From Freedom to Fascism" is excellent, available, and would make a great start. We should all be promoting it.

very bold of you...

There, fixed.

"We don't have to start a brand new revolution...All we have to do is restore the original Constitution." -Ron Paul

FEMA camps

http://www.sianews.com/mo...

Scroll to the bottom and it list all FEMA camps by state and location.

FEMA list is bogus

Not saying that there aren't camps being prepared for us, but I did a little research on some of those Georgia locations, and nearly all of them are active state prisons. I wouldn't trust anything on that list.

GEORGIA

Oglethorpe - Macon County; facility is located five miles from Montezuma, three miles from Oglethorpe. This FEMA prison has no staff and no prisoners.

This is approximately the locatiop of Macon State Prison. It is active and has 1300 prisoners.

Morgan - Calhoun County, FEMA facility is fully manned & staffed - no prisoners.

Calhoun State Prison. 1200 prisoners.

Abbeville - South of Hawkinsville on US route 129; south of town off route 280 near Ocmulgee River. FEMA facility is staffed but without prisoners.

This is definitely Wilcox State Prison. It is off route 129 near 280, and borders the Ocmulgee River. It is active with over 1300 prisoners.

McRae - Telfair County - 1.5 miles west of McRae on Hwy 134 (8th St). Facility is on Irwinton Avenue off 8th St., manned & staffed - no prisoners.

No State Prison here. Poking around on Google Earth, I can't find anything that remotely resembles a prison facility on Irwinton Ave. This is a downtown area and wouldn't seem a suitable location for such a facility.

Camilla - Mitchell County, south of Albany. This FEMA facility is located on Mt. Zion Rd approximately 5.7 miles south of Camilla. Unmanned - no prisoners, no staff.

Looking on Google Earth, there is a strange compound on Mt. Zion Church Rd. that looks suspiciously like a prison. Could be anything. There are no official prisons listed in the area.

Hawkinsville - Wilcox County; Five miles east of town, fully manned and staffed but no prisoners. Located on fire road 100/Upper River Road

This is definitely Pulaski State Prison. It exactly matches this location. It is an active women's prison with over 1000 inmates. .

This list is a joke.

Yes, not surprised. I have concerns regarding much of the

anti-terrorist legislation and moves by our central government. However, this assumption that massive extermination camps are being built (as per Nazi death camps) is, at least for now, ludicrous. There is a youtube video purportedly showing such a camp being constructed in Indiana, yet there is no security and the videographers are just walking around inside the compound, LOL.

On the other hand, I have no doubt that Homeland Security and the police/military authorities are running simulations on these topics and may be upgrading holding facilities. In fact, such holding facilities might logically be constructed adjacent to active prisons as security infrastructure is already in place.

One scenario (and not impossible)...the government of Mexico collapsing due to narco-trafficking and the failure of their main income, the Canterell oil field, which is rapidly declining in output. Far leftists, a la Chavez, take over, creating a mass exodus of refugees heading for the United States, like in the millions at one time. Again, I have no doubt this scenario is being played out in think-tanks.

Also-- Stillwater Naval Air

Also-- Stillwater Naval Air Station doesn't exist. It is listed as a location in Nevada. Regardless, why would there be a Naval Air Station 300 miles inland?

We got one down the road

INS busted illegals at a factory 8 months ago? About 100 of them guess where the busses took them?

The fema camp. Big ole former army base.....real big. Closed up in the 80's. All fitted out as a detention facility now.

Vote for Ron Paul and work for freedom.

Some of the information we get will be "disinformation."

This one is true.

These are big contracts with Fluor, Haliburton, KBR, Gunderson and other assorted thugs posing as corporations. I know the doc can confirm this stuff. He studies all the budgets.

Come on now Rummy lost a trillion in 2000, Auditor couldn't find it.

Get tough now and spread the word.

Keep telling the truth.

There are a few thousand of these people.

There are MILLIONS of us.

That is why they are scared of us....when we ring'em up...they will be facing a judge.

WHAT A CROCK

THIS MUST BE WHY THEY KEEP COMING UP WITH NEW CLEAN AIR STANDARDS, AND WIFI HOT SPOTS, AND WHY THE E-85 IS IN GAS STATIONS NOW. THIS MUST BE WHY THE PHARMACUETICAL COMPANIES CONTINUE TO COME UP WITH VALUEABLE MEDICATIONS, AND SUPERBOWL ADS CONTINUE TO GET BETTER. OF COURSE, THAT'S IT ! ! ! SO WE CAN ALL BE STAMPEDED INTO NAZI-STYLE DEATHCAMPS. GENIUS ! ! !
YA' BUNCH OF PARANOID RETARDS, GET A CLUE ! ! !

AND SOME LOWLIFE IS GONNA POST THAT ALL THAT PROGRESS AND MUCH MORE IS JUST A COVER UP FOR THE SINISTER PLOT TO STICK ALL OF US IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS. YEAH, RIGHT.

OH, AND TO ALL YOU OVER SENSITIVE WORRY WARTS OUT THERE, I ALWAYS WRITE IN ALL CAPS. IT'S EASIER TO READ RATHER THAN SQUINTING AT YOUR LITTLE LETTERS. MY LETTERS ARE LARGE, PROUD EVEN. YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT ? ? ?

TOO DAMN BAD.

Hallelujah, we're safe...

because the Superbowl ads just keep gettin' better!

Idiot

Maybe if I talk real loud and write in all caps, all these bad things that are happening will just magically go away!

In reality, like you point out, yes, there are good things happening, this is due exclusively to the free market and individual initiative. I gotta question E-85 though, I don't know if I can sign off on that as being some panacea.

Dude, you need to realize that just because good things are happening in certain portions of the economy and human innovation, does not mean that everything is hunky dory in the government land (the place of unchecked force).

Also, I don't know where you've been, but the Super Bowl commercials peaked about 10 years ago :)

Paranoid Retards UNITE!

I envy you and your obvious denial of certain facts that have surfaced in several places. These camps are being built, paid for with your tax dollars. Have you seen the videos of the increasing police violence and mistreatement towards citizens? Christ, you can be tazed right out of your car for not having your license on you...what do you think they will do during times of ANY LEVEL of civil unrest???
Be sure they aren't going to ask politely that you please stop protesting the government.
When we are all eating cloned meat protein paste and wearing our UN certified jumpsuits, building border walls (to keep us IN) in our civilian work brigades, I'll be sure to tell ya "I TOLD YOU SO."

“How lucky for those in power that the people don't think.”
Adolf Hitler

OK THEN

Well then explain why we spent so much taxpayer money on these fully staffed empty camps, THATS ALL I WANT TO KNOW

Last chance= RP2008

People have been denying this

People have been denying this, but the cfr nwo folks have this as part of their plan; just like controlling the media.

The economic collapse of our country is part of this. More false flags on the way. We need a non cfr president.

Maybe Ron will lose his primary and then will run; but he needs new campaign leadership.

Pray to God for him to open doors for good people to come forth.

It can't happen here.

You people are paranoid. Trying to get peaceful citizens stirred up for no good reason. There were crazies like you running around saying similar things in Germany in the '30s.

But seriously. Most Americans are so far gone into fucking la la land that they won't believe this stuff even as the UN soldier takes an AK butt to the back of their head when they ask why they have to get in that cattle car. The only way to turn back the tide now would be a mass education campaign. Fuck playing politics, Ron Paul is in a position to educate America ... A well-made documentary exposing first and foremost the media, and then segueing into the various vitally important things the media lies about--the Fed being a very, very important one--and then closing with a rock solid explanation of how our rights work.

You want to wake people up you have make them accept two things. 1) the TV's not telling the truth, 2) there are people in power positions with very, very bad intentions ... #2 is the big hurdle but I've seen people come around to it.

Ron Paul has the dough and he has the foot-soldiers. It's also a time of political realignment. When this election cycle's over it's too late.

It certainly could happen here

and the only way it won't is if we expose and resist. Those camps are not intended for the sheeple living in lala land, they are for the rest of us that still hold the notion that we live in a Consitutional Republic. I submit that the fascist forces that have hijacked the US federal government will use the impending currency crisis as an excuse to spring the trap.

Your Friends From FEMA Are Ready To Help!

Officials Review Weather to Plan Shooting Down of Satellite
New York Times, Published Feb. 21, 2008

Quick Quote (emphasis mine):

"The goal of the mission is to prevent the fuel tank from reaching Earth and spilling its hazardous contents in a populous area. In the event that any of the hydrazine fuel falls on a populated area, the Federal Emergency Management Agency on Wednesday issued directions to community first responders on how to deal with dangerous debris from the satellite."

Full article here.

Hmm. Just...hmm....

(Why, by the way, is there a satellite filled with hazardous content orbiting the Earth? And, I'm no NASA official, but, we did just send a space shuttle out, right?...Atlantis couldn't have relocated that satellite farther out in space, maybe, instead of having potentially hazardous shards of satellite and hazardous waste rain upon the Earth?)

OK, GET THIS! I posted below

OK, GET THIS!

I posted below a link to google earth's "FEMA concentration camp" list and locations.....and now the link is gone and it doesn't exist on google maps anymore......

this was within a few hours!

Actually, I was watching

Actually, I was watching (here) as you made the previous post about the links.. there were never any links in that post.

I saw the post even before maeve replied to it about 'being surrounded by five of them', and still couldn't figure out what either of you were talking about.

Repost the link?

I cant repost it, it no

I cant repost it, it no longer exists!!!!

I def. posted it too!!!

This is freaking me out now. :(

"no longer exists" happens a

"no longer exists" happens a lot. A site came up earlier today as 404 Page not found, which would translate to 'no longer exists'.

As it turned out, so many people had bombarded the site at the same moment - the server crashed. One of the facts of IT life it seems.

Another site posted here earlier this week suddenly was 'gone', and we found out later that it had been a victom of a DOS attack.

Post the link you posted earlier and we can research it to see what's up.

:)
CF

Kudos, SF Chronicle!

It's about time this kind of stuff was reported in the mainstream media. It really should have been put on the front page, not "B-7".

So important

It is so important for us to speak out and inform others what's going on while it is still legal to do so. It may not be in the near future. This story is so important. Also, please check this. So many people have heard about it, but have not actually watched the film. You need to watch it if you haven't, even if you know what the film is about because you won't realize how effective this film is until you actually watch it.
http://www.dailypaul.com/...
Remember what Ron Paul said? He said, "Those of us who know what’s going on and we know the truth, we all have a responsibility to speak out and we need to find those other individuals who share those views.
Not so much that we know immediately we can turn this around in a week or two or a year or two, but if conditions deteriorate as I suspect, we have to have a hardcore people who understand these issues who are able to rebuild the society."

The video is

A couple of years old , where is the follow up?
what does it look like today? Look i put nothing past our governement. But if anyone is going to serve the peole with real information about its maleficence then let it be done correctly and with real facts and figures .
Not with what something could be or not be that is conjecture that needs to be proven as reality.
I believe in the existence of such camps just like those used to imprison Japanese American born citizens in WWII because the governement feared they would be fifth columnists ,,, they were built in the middle of nowhere not in the middle of somewhere.
The video proves nothing, esepcially about the ladder in the radio tower i can just picture some fat government goon climbing up or down .
As previously stated , my suggestion stands.
Write you elected officials and let them know that you vote .. and vote for those who stand for your rights. Vote on every level ... that is the only thing that works until not enough people do it and by consequence the right to vote is abrogated by legislators who sit in office too long.

Recruiting Votes for RON PAUL.

Time to purge...

This is the only way national socialist systems work.

Me and one of my friends

Were having a conversation about marshall law a couple weeks ago. He made a good point that it would probably be too difficult for Bush to pull this off right now because he has too many troops invested in the wars he's started. If he inacted marshall law, he would have redeploy troops back home, and that would also take Iran off the table since he would be way too under staffed to start another war. Pretty much, my friend thinks it's impossible because Bush has already spread his resources too thin. Not to mention, it would be him and the U.S. army vs. America.
Or do you think the sheeple would just go along with this for the majority like they did in New Orleans?