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*MUST READ* SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE BREAKS STORY ON FEMA CAMPS

Great article by a former congressman.

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Who bumpted this thread in

Who bumpted this thread in the first place?? Aren't there enough real and present problems? What should we all be doing right now?? Good grief, just look at the topics running tonight!

North American Army

Yeah, and they will use the North American
Army against us.

Wish someone would write about something about that army being formed without consent of Congress!

Oh hell, what was I thinking--------Congress doesn't care!

subjugation and slavery

"We furnish the means by which we suffer." Thomas Paine

Shenanigans!

Not that I would rule out the possibility of a few small Gitmo style camps, for the benefit of a handful enemies of the state (real or perceived), real concentrations camps mean no economy, which mean no taxpayers, which mean no war abroad. Until they can profit from the death of each and every U.S Taxpayer, it's not happening en masse.

Grow up, and don't get caught crossing the state.

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I started the bank run!

I bet the germans were saying the

same thing as fascism crept upon them. Just wait.

Well let's see.

Vitamin b12 and newuser are attacking this as well as others.. Saying they don't exists. Well I tell you what, go back and tell whom your working for that if people catch the slightest whif that you are taking people, the gloves are off.. I speak for myself but I know of many, many, many others who are not going to stand by and watch.. Yes this is an open transmission.. for all who are watching. Their are many that know your game.

Here is a fun video showing one of these camps. http://video.google.com/v...

yeah,.......

for my brothers and sister,.......if I find out people will he taken away, in secrecy or in masses. I will go get you, I will try my hardest to return you from the terrorist.
I hope you will do the same for me.

hahahaha

Oh my god! How crazy.

A train station is a potential Fema concentration camp! hahahahah

It has a turnstile to check in passengers, a barb wire fence to keep graffiti artists out, and a surveilance camera. So it MUST be a future Fema concentration camp!

bwahahahah!

You've got to be really impressionable to believe this stuff.

hehe.

BREAKS THE NEWS????????????

BREAKS THE NEWS???????????? ALEX JONES HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT FEMA CAMPS FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!

Is this a journalist with some courage?

Or are they just letting us know their serious...

Mike
"Fire Team for Freedom" and "Revolutionary Business"
visit www.mikeandjake.com

Bravo SFC ... now lets see this go out to everyone.

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FEMA CONCENTRATION CAMP CONTROVERSY

I was REALLY freaked out when I started researching the FEMA concentration camp issue. One of the locations listed for Nevada would put that concentration camp within 4-5 miles from my property. So keeping an open mind, my husband and I hopped in our 4x4 and used ONSTAR to pinpoint the 12 miles south of Elko point...we found the location...but there is nothing there...no buildings, no fences, no power, the road is barely travelable, no security cameras, no people, no trailers, no underground venting, no railroad tracks, no landing strips...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...so ...IF the information is accurate with regard to the Elko, NV FEMA camp, then it must be property that has been set aside for a future camp or the whole thing is a HOAX...your guess is as good as mine. The one question that won't stop haunting me...if our government is planning some massive extermination..will there be enough people left in the population to support the fat cat's fat wallets? I still have an open mind on this subject. All responses are welcome quixiotic1@yahoo.com

FYI - This user posts under the name newuser

This user posted the message below on http://www.dailypaul.com/...

On September 28th, 2008 newuser says:

There's a link: http://www.dailypaul.com/...

"I was REALLY freaked out when I started researching the FEMA concentration camp issue. One of the locations listed for Nevada would put that concentration camp within 4-5 miles from my property. So keeping an open mind, my husband and I hopped in our 4x4 and used ONSTAR to pinpoint the 12 miles south of Elko point...we found the location...but there is nothing there...no buildings, no fences, no power, the road is barely travelable, no security cameras, no people, no trailers, no underground venting, no railroad tracks, no landing strips...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...so ...IF the information is accurate with regard to the Elko, NV FEMA camp, then it must be property that has been set aside for a future camp or the whole thing is a HOAX...your guess is as good as mine. The one question that won't stop haunting me...if our government is planning some massive extermination..will there be enough people left in the population to support the fat cat's fat wallets? I still have an open mind on this subject. All responses are welcome quixiotic1@yahoo.com"

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How do we know you're not in on the conspiracy

and covering it up?

Our money is building our prisons

Start talking folks. Don't ramble on like a nutcase. Compile these articles and send them to folks, start meetup groups, etc. There are people in your area. Find them and organize. Educate your community. We need to do this NOW.

So does anyone have any suggestion

about when it is time to leave Dodge??
Real ID cards? Gun control? Forced vaccination? Being on the no fly list?
What are the breaking points, the clues to read the writing on the wall? How did so many Jews know it was time to get out?

I agree that something is

I agree that something is definitely being prepared for Americans. It's hard to deny. That FEMA list however is specious at best. Read my post below about the Georgia "camps"-- several of them are active state prisons with over 1000 prisoners, while the list is claiming that they're FEMA facilities "manned w/ no prisoners."

I saw the Youtube video about the amtrak station, and it looked pretty convincing to me. The barbed wire fences turned inward, the industrial-grade turnstiles, the windsocks, the RED/BLUE/GREEN zones. What reason does a train depot have for inward-turned fences? I have to say I'm a believer myself, though the list is fictitious.

What's the real take-home message from that article

That there is zero difference between the political parties, who are both completely steeped in this process. Jane Harmon is obviously quite dangerous. And why is Naomi Wolf supporting Hussein Obama, who will most certainly lead us down this same path. Even people who are aware of the problem remain astonishingly naive.

Does anyone know whether the American Enterprise Terrorist Act mentioned in the article has actually become law? If so, "sit-ins" for animal rights would now be considered acts of terrorism. There is no end to the possibilities.

All one has to do is study

All one has to do is study the legislation that has been passed (particularly since 9/11) to know that something is in the works. And it has nothing to do with the war on terror and protecting American soil. If that were the case we would have our southern border closed and protected - these new laws are to be used against American citizens.

Use and abuse of power...

using our OWN tax dollars against us. My taxes due this year will certainly sustain me here for the rest of my life.

I went to the supposed local

I went to the supposed local one yesterday. I couldn't get close enough to get any significant pictures. I will have to wait until my pilot friend gets home in a few weeks.

You mean....??!!!??

OMG, so you mean they are actually ANTICIPATING where the REBELLION WOULD BE?? And making the no. of camps based on that? Guess that explains what they are for...

So I went to Google Earth

Fortune Favors the Bold

And there were only 3 of these camps for all of New Jersey and only 5 in New York City. Looking at them from above, they looked like they could be anything.
However, I noticed in place like Berkeley, Austin, and MISSOULA, there were a "ton" of these camps.
Keep in mind these camps can be "tagged" by anyone.
Now ask yourself. Would there be more camps in Missoula, or all of New Jersey?
Sorry, it does seem like this is a case of "Paultard" syndrome.

Montana has vehemently rejected the national ID card.

"Illegals" from the SF Chronicle story could mean anyone not in possession of a national ID card.

I know a few peeps from

I know a few peeps from montana and im pretty sure that state has one of the largest private gun ownership in the country, and all of them(that I know) said they would refuse to give up their guns

You mean....??!!!??

OMG, so you mean they are actually ANTICIPATING where the REBELLION WOULD BE?? And making the no. of camps based on that? Guess that explains what they are for...
I didn't even know where Missouli was, but when I found out it was in MONTANNA----whoaaa! (Maybe not such a nice place to move to after all...)

Summers are nice in MT

but winter in a FEMA camp would be tough.

While I think some of these

While I think some of these claims may be a bit exaggerated I don't dismiss them all out of hand either.

One thing to remember if this scenario ever presents itself; is this quote:

"And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, polkers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat. Or what about the Black Maria sitting out there on the street with one lonely chauffeur -- what if it had been driven off or its tires spiked. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago: 1918-1956

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If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin. Samuel Adams

Yes, thanks for that. The Russian people know very well

the experience of being sent to camps for nothing more than their political or religious beliefs. In that society and others in Eastern Europe, if you didn't go along with the authorities, you could simply be labelled as an "anti-socialist element" or "hooligan". This was sufficient to end your lilfe as you knew it.

We are dangerously close to creating hysteria here where the label "terrorist" or even "terrorist sympathizer" could be levelled at any anti-government person. We're not there yet, but any sort of real terrorist attacks will make such a move almost certain.

We Already Have.....

A country of people, all too many, that ridicule, mock and have a little too much disdain for at least the Christian religion. Remember, in the Soviet Union they were continuously told that religion was "the opiate of the masses."

When you see some of the posts on this forum and hear all too many people out there in OUR country today, people who at one time had a respect for and objectively worshipped God instead "forming" a set of "beliefs" that they subjectively made up as they went along, it sounds more and more like it is becoming the USSA - the Union of Soviet Socialist America!

Very well planned I might say....

Excellent

Point. Thanks for the read.

Are there any missing "groups" from New Orleans?

Just a thought - anyone?

They were mostly poor and if family reported them missing, would anyone take them serious?

This is the stuff people

This is the stuff people need to be leaning about, not who is ahead in American Idol!

Fear not!

Those camps will be for them. Once all the people find out about their purpose. But it would be good if some of you guys get a picture of them. As for me, I'm about ot leave a concentration camp that is NY pretty soon. Over the years, my state has gone from bad to worse. This have become the home of all those things and people unAmerican.

"He who exercises government by means of his virtue may be compared to the north polar star, which keeps its place and all the stars turn towards it." Confucius

If there is a camp near you,

If there is a camp near you, drive there, take pictures, and post them.

I will be going to the supposed camp near me this weekend.

If I cannot get close enough I'll have my friend fly me over it and I'll take my long zoom lens with me. I have flown over the area before with a single prop, but I wasn't looking for a camp, haha.

Let us know when you get

Let us know when you get those pictures, we want to see them!

Let's tell Ron Paul to make a documentary!

The idea suggested by Matthew below is excellent.

The same way we all learned about what's going on in this country (NWO, CFR, etc.) and the true meaning of liberty, so can others.

Let's make this suggestion to Ron Paul to make a documentary.

Matthew said: "The only way to turn back the tide now would be a mass education campaign. Ron Paul is in a position to educate America ... A well-made documentary exposing first and foremost the media, and then segueing into the various vitally important things the media lies about--the Fed being a very, very important one--and then closing with a rock solid explanation of how our rights work."

I've tried. Sent messages to

I've tried. Sent messages to the campaign but they're not interested for whatever reason. I don't know why some brilliant youtube movie maker hasn't struck on this idea. If anyone wants to collaborate on the project, let me know ... I don't have the resources to make the movie, but I'm a good counter-propagandist.

Aaron Russo

Aaron's "From Freedom to Fascism" is excellent, available, and would make a great start. We should all be promoting it.

very bold of you...

There, fixed.

"We don't have to start a brand new revolution...All we have to do is restore the original Constitution." -Ron Paul

FEMA camps

http://www.sianews.com/mo...

Scroll to the bottom and it list all FEMA camps by state and location.

fema camp controversy

I was REALLY freaked out when I started researching the FEMA concentration camp issue. One of the locations listed for Nevada would put that concentration camp within 4-5 miles from my property. So keeping and open mind, my husband and I hopped in our 4x4 and used ONSTAR to pinpoint the 12 miles south of Elko point...we found the location...but there is nothing there...no buildings, no fences, no power, the road is barely travelable, no people, no trailers, no underground venting, no railroad tracks, no landing strips...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING...so ...IF the information is accurate with regard to the Elko, NV FEMA camp, then it must be property that has been set aside for a future camp or the whole thing is a HOAX...your guess is as good as mine. The one question that won't stop haunting me...if our government is planning some massive extermination..will there be enough people left in the population to support the fat cat's fat wallets? I still have an open mind on this subject. All responses are welcome quixiotic1@yahoo.com

FEMA list is bogus

Not saying that there aren't camps being prepared for us, but I did a little research on some of those Georgia locations, and nearly all of them are active state prisons. I wouldn't trust anything on that list.

GEORGIA

Oglethorpe - Macon County; facility is located five miles from Montezuma, three miles from Oglethorpe. This FEMA prison has no staff and no prisoners.

This is approximately the locatiop of Macon State Prison. It is active and has 1300 prisoners.

Morgan - Calhoun County, FEMA facility is fully manned & staffed - no prisoners.

Calhoun State Prison. 1200 prisoners.

Abbeville - South of Hawkinsville on US route 129; south of town off route 280 near Ocmulgee River. FEMA facility is staffed but without prisoners.

This is definitely Wilcox State Prison. It is off route 129 near 280, and borders the Ocmulgee River. It is active with over 1300 prisoners.

McRae - Telfair County - 1.5 miles west of McRae on Hwy 134 (8th St). Facility is on Irwinton Avenue off 8th St., manned & staffed - no prisoners.

No State Prison here. Poking around on Google Earth, I can't find anything that remotely resembles a prison facility on Irwinton Ave. This is a downtown area and wouldn't seem a suitable location for such a facility.

Camilla - Mitchell County, south of Albany. This FEMA facility is located on Mt. Zion Rd approximately 5.7 miles south of Camilla. Unmanned - no prisoners, no staff.

Looking on Google Earth, there is a strange compound on Mt. Zion Church Rd. that looks suspiciously like a prison. Could be anything. There are no official prisons listed in the area.

Hawkinsville - Wilcox County; Five miles east of town, fully manned and staffed but no prisoners. Located on fire road 100/Upper River Road

This is definitely Pulaski State Prison. It exactly matches this location. It is an active women's prison with over 1000 inmates. .

This list is a joke.

Yes, not surprised. I have concerns regarding much of the

anti-terrorist legislation and moves by our central government. However, this assumption that massive extermination camps are being built (as per Nazi death camps) is, at least for now, ludicrous. There is a youtube video purportedly showing such a camp being constructed in Indiana, yet there is no security and the videographers are just walking around inside the compound, LOL.

On the other hand, I have no doubt that Homeland Security and the police/military authorities are running simulations on these topics and may be upgrading holding facilities. In fact, such holding facilities might logically be constructed adjacent to active prisons as security infrastructure is already in place.

One scenario (and not impossible)...the government of Mexico collapsing due to narco-trafficking and the failure of their main income, the Canterell oil field, which is rapidly declining in output. Far leftists, a la Chavez, take over, creating a mass exodus of refugees heading for the United States, like in the millions at one time. Again, I have no doubt this scenario is being played out in think-tanks.

Also-- Stillwater Naval Air

Also-- Stillwater Naval Air Station doesn't exist. It is listed as a location in Nevada. Regardless, why would there be a Naval Air Station 300 miles inland?

We got one down the road

INS busted illegals at a factory 8 months ago? About 100 of them guess where the busses took them?

The fema camp. Big ole former army base.....real big. Closed up in the 80's. All fitted out as a detention facility now.

Vote for Ron Paul and work for freedom.

Some of the information we get will be "disinformation."

This one is true.

These are big contracts with Fluor, Haliburton, KBR, Gunderson and other assorted thugs posing as corporations. I know the doc can confirm this stuff. He studies all the budgets.

Come on now Rummy lost a trillion in 2000, Auditor couldn't find it.

Get tough now and spread the word.

Keep telling the truth.

There are a few thousand of these people.

There are MILLIONS of us.

That is why they are scared of us....when we ring'em up...they will be facing a judge.

WHAT A CROCK

THIS MUST BE WHY THEY KEEP COMING UP WITH NEW CLEAN AIR STANDARDS, AND WIFI HOT SPOTS, AND WHY THE E-85 IS IN GAS STATIONS NOW. THIS MUST BE WHY THE PHARMACUETICAL COMPANIES CONTINUE TO COME UP WITH VALUEABLE MEDICATIONS, AND SUPERBOWL ADS CONTINUE TO GET BETTER. OF COURSE, THAT'S IT ! ! ! SO WE CAN ALL BE STAMPEDED INTO NAZI-STYLE DEATHCAMPS. GENIUS ! ! !
YA' BUNCH OF PARANOID RETARDS, GET A CLUE ! ! !

AND SOME LOWLIFE IS GONNA POST THAT ALL THAT PROGRESS AND MUCH MORE IS JUST A COVER UP FOR THE SINISTER PLOT TO STICK ALL OF US IN CONCENTRATION CAMPS. YEAH, RIGHT.

OH, AND TO ALL YOU OVER SENSITIVE WORRY WARTS OUT THERE, I ALWAYS WRITE IN ALL CAPS. IT'S EASIER TO READ RATHER THAN SQUINTING AT YOUR LITTLE LETTERS. MY LETTERS ARE LARGE, PROUD EVEN. YOU GOT A PROBLEM WITH THAT ? ? ?

TOO DAMN BAD.

Hallelujah, we're safe...

because the Superbowl ads just keep gettin' better!