
FEMA Coffins In Georgia?
Submitted by ColoradoLuvsRP on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 00:33
I came across this material and thought it was worth sharing. I noticed that some have been discussing Fema here on the DP, so I decided to pass it along. The content is not my own, so if you have really strong objections, contest them with the original author. I'm just a truth-seeker like you.
According to the website where this information was found >>>
Photographers snapped pictures of an estimated half a million plastic coffins.
http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=356 (scan down to bottom of page of this link to see the pictures or use the individual links for each pic that I have provided at end of this post)
The man who wrote the above article also posted this >>>>
musselwhite says ... I took these pictures in 2002. My brother-in-law lives in Madison, Georgia. He wanted to know what the heck these containers are and what was the purpose of these containers?
The location of these containers is just off Interstate 20 in Madison.
There appeared to be millions at this particular location. He said there were 2 other locations. They measured 7’ long and 3’ deep. I did not measure the width.
This particular location was sold by a local whom would not divulge the purchasers. I intended to research Superior Court Records but never got around to doing so.
I did email these pictures to Freedom Radio up North and was told they were FEMA body containers in preparation of possible biological attack.
Link for above post >>>
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321952/pg1
You can see the pics here>>>
Pic #1 http://www.libertyforlife.com/images/500-thousand-coffin-lin...
Pic #2 http://www.libertyforlife.com/images/Coffine-liners-close-up...
Pic #3 http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7655/dsc00003id2.th.jpg
Pic #4 http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1514/dsc00001nr5.th.jpg
Pic #5 http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/4213/dsc00007mq9.th.jpg
*Note
You have to admit that the containers do have a strong resemblance to this plain black model burial vault >>>
http://d8809.u29.oishosting.net/index.cfm?ID=20
Thanks for the vault link, J.Malone-TN :)
Halliburton Confirms Concentration Camps Already Constructed >>>
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FEMA Camps more than likely exist but I doubt the Coffins
In fact, these boxes aren't coffins. They are burial vaults, specifically grave liners. The base (lid) goes on the bottom, the casket is placed on it, and the box lowered onto the base and sealed. The purpose of these vaults is to seal the grave from water intrusion (think diving bell effect), and to lend strength to the ground above it. Graves are no longer dug six feet down, in most cases as little as 18 inches of dirt separate the grave from the surface. Caskets are not designed to accommodate large amounts of weight, such as the dirt above it (static load), tractors and digging machinery such as backhoes (dynamic load), or impact forces (impact load). Drive a backhoe over a casket with 18 inches of dirt on it, and the casket will crush, and the backhoe drops on your Grandma. Burial vaults, made of heavy duty polypropylene and strengthened with a rib design, protect the casket and provide structural load bearing properties to increase safety for cemetery workers and protect the sanctity of the grave.
http://newsaxon.org/blog/view/id_9412/title_the-truth-about-...
Do you belong to the "Whites Only" site you linked to?
I truly wish you had found this tidbit on a different site rather than sully the Daily Paul in this way.
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They're not coffins.
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Today, after evaluating the traffic on my site, I noted a marked resurgence in people who were reading the expose' on 5-1959 and Endgame. What I found as I followed several track-backs was horrifying, so today wrote an update to the original article:
Fears Of Martial Law Are Rising Throughout The United States
http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=681
There's a U-Tube video that if you haven't watched yet you really need to see.
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a very good read..
but you almost lost me at "global warming"...fortunately it wasn't you that was going into rants about it...the fact is earthquakes and such will happen, and to blame it on global warming is lunacy. If that was the case the whole history of our earth was filled with "global warming". Of course I'm assuming that earthquakes and hurricanes didn't just start in the last 100 years..but what do I know for sure..I've only been around for 37. :O)
Great article.
FEMA selling online?
Why they can't use selling software tools like those from Plimus?
Coffins sounds creepy, but if software is fine, why there's any problem with casket? and they even got software for it? so it's 100% legit.
I don't understand the
I don't understand the people who think everything's a satanic conspiracy, any more than I understand the people who think nothing is a conspiracy.
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Why use coffins?
I'm just askin'?
Seems like a deep hole is good enough. Does anyone know of a mass murder who then buried his dead in coffins vs. more cost effective means?
capt: The idea is temporary above ground storage or transport..
to another part of the country on a FEMA train. Big governments have very complex plans for mass murder.
Fema Coffin Theory Debunked
Fema Coffin Theory Debunked
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Interview with Vantage Products production supervisor on site next to coffins.
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On April 20th, 2009 upsideofdownhill says:
Yes, they're for cremation. Who needs that many containers for cremation purposes? Unless there is a plan for MASS cremation... there is no need for them. And there are FEMA camps that have multiple large furnaces inside them. All equipped with roads and their railroads for transportation of every one of us to be burned alive. Accept Jesus now, it won't be long...
I noticed that too.
They also posted where their name would drop off the bottom of the page when someone posted.
hmmm.....
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Since we are discussing coffins...what about the guillotines?
and FEMA Trains in Columbia Falls/Glasgow/Cut Bank, MT? I don't know anything else. I found this stuff. Does anyone know anything else.
Scroll down the link:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8060148/FEMA-Ordered-101
FEMA ordered 102,000 boxcars with shackles and guillotines
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2008/11/381946.shtml
Blog: "FEMA coffins" in FEMA TRAINS: Read comments:
Excerpt:
"This is how they came upon these boxcars with shackles. I later received a report from Lee Harrington of Valier, MT, who was a professional metal worker. He told me how in Glascow, MT, summer youth workers were employed to weld shackles into boxcars in that operation. They were then shipped west to Glacier and stored on remote sidetracks. Passing through the Blackfoot Indian Reservation in Cutbank, a local Blackfoot Indian, George Bullcalf, spotted these strange boxcars. When I interviewed local Patriots in Columbia Falls, they confirmed that hunters often stumbled upon such boxcars on remote train spurs in that wilderness region."
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread321952/pg15
There may be some big
There may be some big planned event we are all unaware of. Did 911 catch anyone off guard? Do you have better surveillance capabilities than the U.S. gov't? Just becasue you read abunch of stuff online, do you really think you are informed as to all the stuff that is going on?
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They're paper cutters.
Anyone here ever worked in a printshop, or set foot in the backroom of one?
Allow me to repeat:
1. The 'Chinese guillotines' are paper cutters.
2. The 'black FEMA coffins' are grave liners for cemetery use. They are funeral products.
There is no more reality behind this than the David Icke lizard theory.
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yeah....
I know what they look like,......true. But why so many of them all in the same spot in that area?
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I have spent considerable time investigating the Fema coffins,
and I believe that they are just grave kiners as well.
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"According to the company
"According to the company that makes these "coffins", Vantage Products Corporation Vice President of Operations Michael Lacey said the various theories regarding the property, and what’s on it, aren’t quite accurate.
The “coffins” aren’t coffins at all, according to Lacey. Instead, they are burial vaults, “the outer container for caskets,” Lacey said, placed in the ground before the coffin to protect the coffin and maintain level ground above.
There are currently 50,000 of these burial vaults on the property, according to Lacey. As the vaults were placed on the site around 1997 or 1998, there may have been as many as 70,000 or 80,000 to begin with.
“It’s nowhere near the quantity they talk about on the Internet,” Lacey said.
This quantity of burial vaults, Vantage’s Standard Air Seal model in black, also the least expensive model and the most in-demand, was made to cater to what Lacey calls the funeral industry’s “pre-need.” This “pre-need” occurs when people make arrangements for their funeral before they actually pass away, so that the family doesn’t have to go through the perceived stress of making the arrangements. When these arrangements are made, the products are paid for; obviously, though, they are not yet needed.
So, Vantage stores the product until the person dies, and the product is needed.
Further, pallets of the burial vaults are moved truckloads at a time, as there is space for a palate at the location.
Contrary to the beliefs of the theorists, then, the burial vaults aren’t owned by the government, or FEMA. Instead, they’re owned by individuals, or not yet sold.
“They’re not owned by any one individual, company or the government,” Lacey said.
Further, Vantage leases the land, located at 1200 Madison Industrial Boulevard, from Conyers Welding & Supply and has for four to five years, a fact confirmed by Conyers Welding & Supply. Conyers Welding & Supply took over the lease when the property was purchased from Robert Usury in 2000. Usury purchased the property in 1989, according to information provided by the Morgan County Tax Assessor’s Office and the Morgan County Online Public Property Portal."
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Flame is right. They are in
Flame is right. They are in fact "coffin enclosures" that are made for the sake of keeping contaminated bodily fluids from getting into the soil.
From my research, these are to be used to just put bodies into in case of some disaster. Each one is capable of holding up to 4 bodies, minus the coffin, and they are non biodegradable for 100 years. They even come with covers.
My only problem is....Why did the gov't buy these ( see www.federalspending.org) and having 500,000 of these at one location seems to be a litttle drastic. That would handle 2 million bodies from some disaster.
Why would they not just store them in a GSA warehouse in the middle of Atlanta?
My philosophy is", Just because you are unaware of a situation doesn't mean that situation doesn't exist".
There may be some big planned event we are all unaware of. Did 911 catch anyone off guard? Do you have better surveillance capabilities than the U.S. gov't? Just becasue you read abunch of stuff online, do you really think you are informed as to all the stuff that is going on?
Ever been hoodwinked before?
Get ready...theres a big "something" coming like a tsunami...
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well......
start taking them and if anyone complains ask who they belong too....
If the government owns them, they would claim them. I would ask a sheriff or local police to investigate the weird containers that happen to be a lot of.
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Sometimes a coffin is just a coffin
But I don't blame someone for being paranoid when in fact they are out to get you...
My 2 cents worth
They may be coffins but I cannot imagine these guys even giving us the courtesy of a coffin, I just figued we would get mass graves with a bulldozier like some of the first responders at 911. just my thoughts
RJ,
" I just figued we would get mass graves with a bulldozier like some of the first responders at 911. "
Who are these 911 first responders who got mass graves with a 'bulldozier' ?
My 2 cents, too.
I do not imagine any coffin for the minions. Just harvest any good body parts and cover us with the dozer.
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I live near Madison and went
I live near Madison and went out and saw these. There are in fact an est. 500,000 of them sitting there right behind a concrete company next to railroad tracks.
What really makes me suspicious is that there are lots more of these things sitting in places all over the U.S.A.
see www.uaff.us for a video and locations.
Yeah, 1/2 million "body boxes" sitting in the middle of nowhere, placed there by FEMA, shouldn't be any cause for alarm. Neither should the building of FEMA Detention centers all over the U.S.
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I know that everyone here (and myself) think we are all so plugged into everything that is going on, but we are badly mistaken. There are meetings going on right this second, that you will never know about, you will never read about (until it's too late) and you won't believe until it affects YOU personally...It's kinda like a death in the family. You read about it all the time but it certainly is different when it happens to YOU.
The things that are going on right now in this country couldn't have even been imagined 20 years ago, but everyone becomes complacent and goes with the flow...right up to loading up and getting on the bus when they tell you it is for "your safety".
The "WAR on TERRORISM" has now crept into every household in America. BEWARE of the "terrorists". You might be one and not know it.
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yeah.....
that is why you leave the cities.
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Where is the evidence that they're coffins?
Just because a container could fit a body into it, it doesn't make it a coffin.
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They are vault liners to place coffins into.
Read below for answers.
They are vault liners to place coffins into.
Read below for answers.
They're coffins. You may search for the company's website...
I located it months ago but I don't have it handy. I'm sure if you hunt through the old posts you'll find it. Or if someone else has it...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
They aren't coffins.
They're weatherproof plastic liners for gravesites.
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And if they are so what?
Lots of people are always dying. Large numbers of coffins needs to be manufactured.
I don't see any reason to draw wild conclusions from this.
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They're grave liners for normal graves.
They're funeral products.
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Now you're just an idiot...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
I may not know the truth, but I know when I'm being lied to...
Large numbers of coffins
mean nothing in of itself.
I can go to a coffin manufacturer and take pictures, show them being loaded into trucks and trains, and get you conspiracy theorists in an uproar too.
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Yes. They're just funeral products.
But they aren't caskets. They're grave liners. To protect peoples' caskets from deterioration and rot. They're for cemeteries. That's why they sell them online. To funeral homes.
They are not a part of a global conspiracy to depopulate the world. I find the whole controversy an embarrassment to our movement.
I don't understand the people who think everything's a satanic conspiracy, any more than I understand the people who think nothing is a conspiracy.
I go back to what I said before--if I was Chief of the 'Psy Ops Division', I would flood the Internet with conspiracies like this and angry, wild-eyed zealots who promote them, in an effort to make anyone who questions the real conspiracy cover-ups look ridiculous.
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Kevin is right
These are grave liners.......My dad just passed away and one of these was on the receipt from the gravesite.
You last paragraph was right on.
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I’m the author of the article being discussed here. This essay was posted after countless hours of research and correlating the results with our current political climate - which to say the least, leaves people who do their homework fearful of what is happening within our own country.
My thoughts on the so-called coffins are this: If you’re expecting mass casualties from any type of a catastrophic event, do you purchase expensive individual coffins, are do you look for a solution that is far less expensive? I believe it’s the latter…
There is still a press blackout on S-1959, and to make matters worse, just two (2) days after President Obama took office, HR-645 was introduced in the House authorizing FEMA to build a minimum of six more FEMA Internment Camps on military bases. This legislation is also “flying under the radar” and most of the public is unaware that it even exists. We all have to ak ourselves why there is a necessity for more FEMA Internment Camps. What in the heck is going on? Since there is still a [press blackout on this issue, I doubt that even Senator Ron Paul would be allowed to offer us an explanation -and as Americans, we should DEMAND to know the true intent for building what appear to be concentration camps within the United States. It’s also noteworthy that this new House Bill was authored by Democrats - just as S-1959 was…
Read: American Concentration Camps Proposed in Congress - H.R. 645
http://www.nowpublic.com/world/american-concentration-camps-...
If you really wnt to understand what is happening, go to my site and read the series authored by Ed Encho, which is a four-part series.
Main Core, PROMIS and the Shadow Government (pt.1) http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=582
Main Core, PROMIS and the Shadow Government (Pt.2) http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=586
Main Core, PROMIS and the Shadow Government (Pt.3) http://justanothercoverup.com/?p=588
The above series is the most informative that I have ever read, and what it demonstrates, with a ton of substantiation, is that the worst is yet to come!
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Just for the record,
Michael Ruppert of wwwfromthewilderness.com, went into much detail about what he dug up about PROMIS software. It was stolen from a private company in Arizona sometime in the 90's.
This story alone is the crown jewel of how 9/11 could even take place!
Without this software, those behind its operation could not make this all happen the way it did.
For those who wish to understand what this is all about go to Michaels' website.
This is also detailed in his book, 'Crossing the Rubicon' pub.2003. Michael got a hold of the intelligence on this and wrote about it.
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I am not finding "S-1959" anywhere.
Has the number been changed? Thomas doesn't have it and even a web search isn't turning anything up.
At this point, I'm not sure.
I have to go and pay a few bills, but this is a question that definitely warrants an answer. I wrote an article and/or comment on what happened to S-1959 last year and I have to do some digging to find it. There was such a tremendous outcry from the public that S-1959 was shelved (Everyone pat yourselves on the back!) This was the most popular article I have ever written, and it still receives "hits" each and every day - and was read by a global audience to an extent that still amazes me to this very day; but even though it was supposedly "shelved", some of the content began to be implemented anyway - which was accomplished "under the radar" by the corrupt Bush administration.
The introduction of HR-645 is substantiation that S-1959 is still alive and well, and it's time for another massive outcry by the public and this time, we shouldn't stop until we receive answers that are more than rhetoric. President Obama promised that there would be more transparency in government - and because of this egregious Bill, I believe that it's time to hold his feet to the fire. We are all tired of lame excuses that side-step anything that even comes close to the truth!"
Yes, I'm a Liberal/Progressive, however, my two picks for the Presidency were Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich - and when both were marginalized by our "lapdog" MSM, I chose not to vote, although I did support Obama as the lesser of the two evils, but refused to cast a vote because the two best candidates had been effectively taken away from the public view by the "Corapacy" and "Shadow Government" that currently rules this nation.
More later after I find the follow-up I wrote in regard S-1959.
BTW, the PROMIS/Shadow Government series I spoke of is incredibly long and detailed - but it does answer a lot of questions that are on the minds of every American that chooses to get their "news" from sources other than the MSM. Other than place crashes, weather, and other items that don't touch on the sensitive issues we all seek, the MSM is absolutely worthless, and in my opinion, should be prosecuted for the fraud they have perpetrated on the American as well as the global community.
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I'm not sure why the areas marked in bold continue when I was only attempting to emphasize the first paragraph that appears in bold lettering????
All that is necessary for evil to prevail is that good men do nothing.
I fixed it.
Whenever you html something and want it to end, you include a "/" in the second tag.
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Since you were the original poster, I'll ask you.
I posted this several weeks ago...what ever became of them? Are they still sitting along the side of the road? Were they moved and if so, to where?
What became of 250K plastic coffins?
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Well...
This is a cheery little post. Can't think of anything more positive to talk about right now.
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Information regarding the CREMATION CASKETS
CDC..you know...Center for Disease Control is in Atlanta, Ga.
They may look like everyones little mini septic tanks or whatever you guys are calling them..but..here is where the EPA says that it is a real company that makes caskets...
http://www.epa.gov/ttn/naaqs/ozone/areas/plant/ga/pl17322x.htm
The company is Vantage Products Corporation....and there are ALOT of government/military contracts with various corporations by the name of Vantage..
And here are the patents for said cremation caskets.
http://www.google.com/patents?vid=USPAT5425163
and..
http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5425163.html
Both have this to say....
Abstract
A multi-functional cremation container for a cadaver is provided. A rectangular container is enclosed on five sides by four container side panels and a bottom panel. The sixth side is an upwardly facing open top for providing access to the internal volume within the container. The side panels terminate at the open top in a first annular horizontal peripheral groove and a downturned external flange having a downfacing annular edge. Each side is sloped so as to allow multiple cremation containers to be nestled for compact storage and easy transportation. A rectangular cover has a horizontal top panel with four peripheral, downwardly extending cover side panels. The cover side panels fit over the container flange for closing the container, and include formed therein a plurality of reliefs for carrying the casket. The top panel has a peripheral upwardly facing second annular horizontal groove for nesting within the first annular groove as a moisture barrier. Each of the cover side...
Patent number: 5425163
Filing date: May 28, 1993
Issue date: Jun 20, 1995
Inventors: Raymond M. Von Braun, Robert V. Milby
Primary Examiner: Beth A. Aubrey
U.S. Classification
27/7; 27/14; 27/35; 428/913
International Classification
A61G 1700
ALSO..there is a very good thread that has just about all this information covered...all the arguments..all the drama...everything if anyone wants to look into this...
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/62584
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Good to see you posting again!
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Anisha, You're responding to a post
from Nov 4, 2008
The Vaults in Madison, GA were designed to be...
placed in the ground and to place a coffin inside. They also are guaranteed to last 100 years in the ground, which is the part that I don't understand....They don't seem like they would be very amenable to burning as in cremation.
Links to them being burial vaults and not cremation containers?
This is the same as I posted below..I'm not trying to argue..just want to see where this information came from. I've learned that "This is that" doesn't really count for anything..you had to get the information somewhere...I like facts...they are our friend.
but where is the link that shows they were made in Alabama, FEMA bought them, and they are burial containers to last 100 years....that's all I'm asking for here..everyone has an idea but some real tangible proof would be nice. I've left my links for all to see, including the patents for these containers that happened to have come from Vantage, and that is from Vantage themselves..of course the cover story is from pre-paid funerals..but my heavens doe they really sell that many pre paid funerals? And can't they make more?....it just doesn't make any sense.