After This Election, I am Leaving The GOP and I Let Them Know It

Vote RON PAUL 2008
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Who says there are two distinct major political party systems in this nation? Thomas Jefferson obviously didn't think so --
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...

It's a little early to be making a firm decision yet, but the topic is sure a good one...

On one hand, no third party candidate (Perot aside) has ever broken 2%, no? I think Ed Clark got over a million votes in 1980, but then again he didn't have the relative star power of RP (nor the history in Congress). Perot was a special case, because he didn't really build anything that lasted; he just spent a whole bunch of his own money. This makes the case for staying in the GOP.

On the other hand, if Ron doesn't get the GOP nod, McBane will get absolutely trounced by the Dems (which is what is planned anyhow, right?), and the resulting mess will open the door for one or more new parties to make their move. If RP then gets drafted by the LP/CP, he will pull at least 10 million plus in the general election. Of course we all now how bad things will be by then, and selling the public on new parties will be that much easier. So now we have a case for third/fourth/etc. parties.

On the third hand, let's say RP wins the GOP nod... Now we're golden!!! And once he's president he can switch to the LP or CP, right?

Anybody want to lend me a hand...?

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How to support RP's cause every day:
1. Don't use credit cards
2. Stamp your cash with RP stamp before spending
3. Take cash out of ATM, stamp, put back in bank
4. Explain to teller why you did #3
5. Repeat

Don't leave. We need you, and everyone else for that matter. Don't leave the GOP...take over the GOP!

Face it, bro. The two party system is here to keep other parties marginalized.

...and he should abandon his bid for Congress.

Above all, he needs to recognize that he's just warming a seat in Washington.

If he left, he could have a far greater impact doing good works with our support OUTSIDE the system, just like Al Gore is doing (moving on has been especially kind to Al Gore).

I think Ron could be far more effective giving up his old job and taking advantage of his global appeal. Going back to Congress is a waste of the message and the messenger.

Now THAT would be a genuine REVOLUTION!!!

Um, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but when people say I'm leaving the GOP if Ron doesn't win, I cringe.
Thats EXACTLY what the neo-cons want. A failed Paul campaign, and then for everyone and all his supporters to leave the GOP
It seems quite obvious that their plans would be right back on track if we left.
Remember, we are a new force in the GOP. Lets take advantage of that. If Dr. Paul doesn't win the nomination, that should encourage us to recruit even more constitutionalists into the party, since there's a lack there of.

So please, if Dr. Paul looses, it's clearly our fault; and since the GOP is made up of ummm, People, we should work to replace the inefficient, with the efficient.

We are Ron Paul

They won't care. They are delusional in their belief that McCain can beat a Democrat this year. Ron Paul is the only Republican that could beat a Democrat in these times. The only good thing though is that we are becoming the new Republican Party and the future looks bright.

http://www.draftronpaul.c...

Galactic Whacko said:

"I believe Dr. Paul intends for us to remain in the GOP to TAKE IT BACK! Then it will be OUR party again. If we leave it... Where do we go? The system is already slanted against third parties."

This is illogical. The GOP has been one of the two parties which have rigged the process against others. Therefore, it simply and obviously is illogical to decide to reform the system from within the GOP. Ain't happening. Didn't happen for the first 10 congressional terms of Rep. Paul. Indeed, during Paul's time in office the GOP went from merely corrupt to irredeemably corrupt.

There is NO logic in saying that you won't fight the corruption, and instead will join it, because to fight it is hopeless. That's exactly what is being said by those who suggest that joining or staying in the GOP is the best way to effect positive change.

Draft Ron Paul to run outside the GOP http://www.draftronpaul.c... . Let him know he's needed, that you'll continue to support the cause, but that you know that to keep on doing what he's been doing for 10 terms in congress just ain't making it.

When you keep doing what you've been doing and hoping for a different result, well, isn't that the definition of insanity? Yes, and that's the simple cold truth. He isn't going to reform the GOP and neither is anyone else.
In Liberty,
John P Slevin
http://www.draftronpaul.c...

I'm done with all parties. I don't even think there should be "parties". It is a way to divide the people, not unite them. We are individuals. We should vote according to issues, not on party platforms.

Dr. Paul has run as an independent before, and he learned that the process is so onerous for alternative parties, that it makes more sense to try to fix one of the major parties instead.

The Republicans are about to lose in a landslide. The last time that happened, when Carter destroyed Ford, it was an opportunity for the Republican party to get its act together and choose Ronald Reagan.

The same thing will happen this time, too. The party will want to know how they got beat so bad, and the answer is obvious: they tried to play the Socialists' game. What's the solution? Be Republicans again: choose candidates who will vote for small government, sound money, and a humble foreign policy.

The way have an effect is not to stream out of the Republican party when this election cycle is over, but to get everyone you can INTO the Republican party.

As for the Libertarians, anytime there's a Libertarian candidate who you support, then by all means vote for him.

-jcr

this morning that the Oregon Republican Party is almost $300,000 in debt, and they are downsizing. I sent all of the Oregon GOP an email a couple of nights ago stating that if they don't organize around Dr. Paul, we are finished. I am trying to become a delegate in Oregon for Dr. Paul also. About a month ago I received a survey from the Party, and at the bottom it asks for a donation. I wrote all over the survey about the policies that I disagreed with as a conservative Republican, and then at the bottom noted that I already donated to the only TRUE conservative running for President-Dr. Ron Paul. I hope they removed me from their mailing list. I've been a registered R since I was 18 (23 years now), but I've always been Libertarian minded. It's my understanding that in Oregon, unless you are a registered R, you can't vote R for President. That is why I've stayed with the party for so long, but I am ready to bail. In local issues I mainly vote Constitution and Libertarian. The local and state R candidates sound more like D's every day, and it makes me sick. Their arguement is that we live in a liberal state-I don't buy it, just look at what Dr. Paul has had to endure.

It's MY party, and I'll cry if I want to.

GOP was stolen by neo-tards.
I want it back.

It still has name recognition. It still has a symbol (The Elephant)
I think it would be faster to fix the GOP, than to re-establish Libertarian party.
It's still established as a main party, and thats an important part of the battle.

Nike. Apple. Starbucks. Disney. Coke. Republican.

When a successful company sells their business, part of the purchase price includes all the "good will" that company name has engendered. The new owners of the company may suck big time, but because they still use the established name, people believe they're getting the same quality they had before, even if things aren't quite, well, as good as they were before. Yet they continue to purchase the familiar brand. That's because the brand name still means something to a LOT of people, regardless of the actual content.

Suppose that the Libertarian Party somehow became mangled and rotten through and through; they would still probably call themselves the "Libertarian Party" because brand marketing works, and the party would want to retain as many loyal "customers" as they ever had with that particular name. And while many in the LP would smell the coffee, there are plenty who would continue to stay with the party because, hey, it's the "Libertarian Party"!

The brand named "The Republican Party" is a long established name. It has actually changed quite dramatically over the many years of its existence (did I need to tell you that?), but notice that the brand "Republican" still means something to a LOT of people, regardless of the actual content.

Are you getting this?

I gave up my Libertarian membership specifically so I could support Ron Paul. I left a personally-preferred alternate brand name, in order to support and promote a product of actual substance, who happens to use the brand name of a "major" party that I don't personally care for. Clearly, I'm not the only one who has done this. While being registered as a Republican makes me nauseous, I recognize that the name is nothing more than a label.

We now have the opportunity to make that label mean something other than what it has meant in recent history. We have the power to restore it to its original intent. This is called rebranding. And when done with confidence and dedication, let me tell you: rebranding WORKS.

We have a great many supporters in this revolution, numbers that are growing every day. Strength in numbers, friends. "Join or Die", remember? So, we join together, throw all of our efforts *within* the Republican Party, and what happens to the brand?

The substance of it changes dramatically.
We don't have to change the name of the brand (the label). We don't want to.
Those who have been "customers" of the Republican brand will continue to "shop" Republican -- and they'll begin to notice a fresher taste about it, too.

However, when we retreat to our various corners (Libertarian, Constitutionalist, Decline To State, etc.), then our resources become scattered and impotent. All our accumulated aggregate power vanishes.

What I propose, and others have also proposed, is nothing short of a hostile takeover, but done in a very smooth and friendly manner, not unlike our delegate operation. Infiltrate. Smile and nod and chant the brand name. Change it from the inside.

This can be done. It's been done before. Just look at Ron Paul. The Republican(tm).

Who knows. Enough of Big Government.

we can't clean it out -- Ron Paul will win

All of US in all 50 states can still write him in during the casting of ballots and that abilitiy is there regardless of what party affiliation you are. Independent, Constitutionalist, Democrat, Republican, whatever. At the end of the day delegates matter first. After that the nomination or lack there of will mean nothing. We can always spread this message and I will fight unti l the winner is declared.

Just thought it was worth telling the GOP that I am done with them if things don't change.

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Vote RON PAUL 2008
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If somehow (??) RON PAUL doesn't win this election // You guys like that, me saying somehow (??) -- when in reality we know what that somehow (??) is all about, don't we // But if RON PAUL doesn't win and MCCAIN is the GOP finalist -- I'm changing my Republican affiliation (longtime registered as it is -- almost 40 years now doing the voting thing) to INDEPENDENT.

When we say that RON PAUL is America's Only Hope -- Those aren't just words, they're fact. 'That's a Fact, Jack!' A little something from the movie Stripes for you that didn't understand.

No way am I voting for MCCAIN. I will lower my standards however and vote for OBAMA (not that anyone asked) but there again, if he isn't the finalist on the Democrat ticket (and HILLARY is) // then I'm simply not voting at all, the first time in a hell of a long time.

My choice remains RON PAUL but if he isn't selected as the GOP finalist then the GOP could care less about my vote or anyone else that had RON PAUL in mind to lead this country, that's the way I see it. That's very telling, for sure.

As it is (all of it) I am convinced that this two major party political system that we are so proud of here in this fine country of ours has morphed into nothing more than one GIANTIAC HOAX being played on the American People // a hoax where there is truly only one political party (whereby neither is truly Republican or Democrat today but instead something resembling a Dictatorship with a new face every couple of years). A gangster system whereby truth and justice and fairness only works in one direction -- THEIRS. We The People are actually We The Puppets and the new faces every couple of years are representative of those that truly pull the strings and not us, not anymore, not for many years now.

My continuing thoughts on this matter.